KrisworldB777 From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 570 posts, RR: 3 Posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 23864 times:
Date: Feb 3, 2008
Route: Hong Kong-Los Angeles
Airline: Cathay Pacific
Aircraft: Boeing 747-400
Registration: B-HUA
Long-haul Economy Class travel: long revered among business and leisure travellers the world over. The symbol of capitalist extravagance and indulgent luxury. The perfect time for quiet and poignant contemplation.
Yes, we all look forward to it like we do a serious bout of Gonorrhea. Yet too many of us face a crippling mental dilemma in evaluating whether we should cop the abominable discomfort like a true champion of the masses, or whether we should indulge in an investment in our already inflated egos by upgrading to the more dignified surrounds of Business or First Class. Unfortunately the bean counter got the better of me when planning for this trip. Economy Class was victorious.
I don't usually write trip reports to detail my travels, largely because I too regularly find air travel a mundane chore. Whereas I used to pay close attention to detail in my nascent youth, cynicism has embraced me in all its glory. Upon boarding, usually I will either go straight to sleep or I will be too busy typing on my laptop to note the important elements required for a trip report on this fine, albeit freakishly peculiar forum to which I vigorously deny any membership of.
I decided to write this report six hours into the flight from Hong Kong to Los Angeles as I became increasingly bedazzled by the absolute disgrace of this cabin crew to the point where it actually became comical. Please therefore excuse the less detailed descriptions of the first half of the flight for I was neither particularly interested nor engaged. Moreover, my attempts at photography within the darkened cabin are so embarrassingly shameful that I can only apologise profusely. Alas I shall continue!
Check-in @ Kowloon
We decided to get smart with check-in by doing it at the HKIA Express Terminal in Kowloon. What a smart decision.. We went straight to the front of the queue which was great as we managed to get checked in within five minutes flat. An impressively seamless start to the trip%u2014how very refreshing.
Arriving at HKIA
Upon arriving at HKIA, I was again reminded why the airport has many fans. Though it is as aesthetically inspiring as a water cracker with its rather dreary grey marble slabs in each and every direction, it is at least filled with light: huge windows and impressively high ceilings (take note on the latter Changi Airport) go a considerable way in providing a feeling of spaciousness that helps one forget that there are, at any given time, several thousand sheep competing for limited infrastructural resources.
Unfortunately my positive comments will take the back foot from there. Passport control and security screening simply weren't up to scratch and they clearly did not acknowledge that I, yes I, was travelling. I was offered nothing in the way of a personal escort and nor was I even offered a separate line free from the other peasants who surrounded me with their incessant coughing, spluttering and shrieking akin to a drowning seal. And to think this nonsense was conducted in some dreadful regional Asian dialect. I think some people refer to it as Chinese. Must be spoken by those people in China. Alas I digress.
Boarding
Upon reaching the boarding gate, the board showed departure had been moved from 1620 to 1645. May I remind you this was not a delay. It was merely a shifted time in the scheduled departure. Not a huge problem of course as it gave me time to send emails to my seven wives and send messages of encouragement to my nineteen illegitimate, though not illegal, children.
Having communicated with them, I decided to board. In most airports worldwide, this is a relatively painless experience. However, Hong Kong is unique, challenging the limitations of conventional wisdom. Hong Kong likes to conduct its additional security screening for US flights within the aerobridge itself, I assume because of the great depth of space available. With almost 300 people trying to cram into the aerobridge, the ambience was sensual. The wide variety of individual body fragrances was inspiring to say the least, demonstrating a truly international flair. Tempted to reach for a nose plug I resisted, for I knew I would then become the subject of much bitter jealousy from my fellow travellers. I decided I should refrain for their collective benefit.
Upon arriving at the second door (who ever knew it existed?) I was welcomed aboard warmly by the Filipino in-flight services manager. A woman with evident flair and enthusiasm, my initial impression was that this would be a good crew. Alas optimism nearly always proves to be the chief symptom of the misguided. I once again proved myself to be a misguided idealist lacking the enviable quality of pragmatism by jumping to unfounded conclusions.
Having travelled a whole five rows, I was confronted by an Indian woman of mammoth proportions blocking the aisle. At first I was concerned that the poor woman had become stuck between the two seats. I gestured to help her as only a true gentleman would. I contemplated using some serious physical force to release her, but it became apparent that she was instead undressing, having obviously realised that her grandiose attire would likely be damaged by the low grade quality of the seat fabric. I waited a whole four minutes before she kindly finished the process, after which she abused me for not doing anything to assist her, naturally in Tamil. If she weighed 300 pounds less and was a little more beautiful, perhaps I would have been more inclined to assist her but in this instance, I was more worried my hands would be absorbed by her Bangalore-Bermuda Triangle.
The Coveted Seat 66D (D is for DOOM)
Upon reaching seat 66D, which might well have been 660D, I was reminded of why I don't care much for Economy Class and try my best to avoid it. Sitting down, my knees were wedged into the metal wire of the seat pocket. Why can they not use some elastic fastener that negates the need to have a metal wire wedged into one's knee? Forget suicide by slitting your wrists, this is far more painful. The Captain, a fine British chap who possessed all the qualities of one of His Majesty's subjects, welcomed us aboard with characteristic Queen's English suggesting an arrival into Los Angeles approximately 15 minutes ahead of our scheduled time. I was later to realise this was a complete and utter fabrication. How dare he.
Pushback
Push back came at 4.50 and we were airborne about 15 minutes later after a very long take-off roll. We climbed through about 30,000 feet before the cabin crew sprang into life as "flight attendants." The seatbelt sign remained illuminated during the period.
Discharging the Cabin Crew from their Fasteners
The drinks service began from the back which worked well for me. A junior flight attendant by the name of Joyce, a drag queen in disguise judging by her questionable selection of makeup, asked what I would like to drink. I replied "anything alcoholic to numb the pain please", politely of course. She responded quickly and curtly "well I have white or red wine. Which is it?" Hmm. "A can of coke thank you, oh and may I have an extra packet of nuts please?" Though I do freely admit I am greedy, and shamelessly so, Joyce clearly did not see this as an endearing quality. No doubt more troubled by the welfare of fellow passengers and perhaps the prospect of me ballooning, she replied "NO! CANNOT! I run out!" She moved on. I didn't, however.
Dinner
Menus were distributed and we were asked to share one between two or three as there weren%u2019t enough. Five star indeed. When the main meal selection came around, I decided I would ask dear Joyce for her meal recommendation. Her response was characteristically brusque, replying "how would I know? I don't take lamb" I sensed that dear Joyce was implying that the fish was better than the lamb so I chose it seeing as she seemed like a shrewd no-nonsense woman. Alas it had the consistency of her temperament: as tough and as tasty as a pre-used condom. Upon her return to collect the meal trays, I asked her colleague whether I could have a second meal. Expecting a "Sure sir!" or perhaps "I'll have a look and see if we have any left" type of comment, I was flabbergasted to receive the response of "NO! No more! Must have nuts! Yes, Nuts!" as she threw two packets of the previously elusive nuts onto my tray table. Obviously the embargo on nuts had since been lifted following my earlier request. Gourmet cuisine indeed. This is the life.
The Great Quest for Comfort
Having completed my two packets of deliciously superlative nuts, I attempted to try and catch some shut eye. Attempting to do so with a 6'2 stature is not particularly easy and I had great difficulty achieving any mild degree of success. Being two rows from the rear toilets was not particularly helpful as there always seemed to be a congregation in the queue right beside my seat. In some ways I started to sympathise with zoo animals as it was precisely how I felt, constantly being watched. I wouldn't make a good celebrity.
That said, I did manage to close my eyes for about two hours which was greatly appreciated, though I did awaken to feel as if I had been hit across the back of my neck with a potent magnesium hammer and a throat as dry as Prince Philip%u2019s humour. As I motioned for the service button, I noticed no fewer than 23 service lamps illuminated. Now mathematics is hardly my most ardent academic talent, yet I had the common sense to realise with some degree of rapidity that my chances of attaining service were limited. Instead, I was to embark on a courageous expedition to the galley, aiming to return to my luxurious seat with tidings of comfort and joy in the form of an apple juice.
Arriving at the forward galley, I was met with three startled faces. The reaction of two of the crew was to turn their back to me and pretend they were busy. The third, evidently a little slower and unfortunately not quite so intelligent, could not conjure an adequate alternative and instead stuttered "Yes, you need something?" I replied that I would like an apple juice and she directed me to the starboard side of the galley to the self-service refreshment centre where they had a fairly decent selection of soft drinks, juices, biscuits, chocolate bars and ham and mustard rolls. Unwilling to immediately return to my seat, I lingered a bit, looking out the door window to the dreary sight of the darkened Pacific Ocean until one of the male attendants made it clear I was being a nuisance and strongly encouraged that I return. Faced with the possibility of this delightfully vile attendant%u2019s threat of murder for invading his quarters, I decided it to be in my best interests to return with a degree of urgency, only to continue dozing to the distressing sight of the many thousands of miles to go before arriving in Los Angeles.
In-flight Entertainment
Cathay Pacific is fairly slow with its take up of innovations and this 747-400 was not yet fitted with the new generation in-flight entertainment system replete with AVOD. The system is very basic indeed, using a stripped-out version of Matsushita 2000 without the proper handset and with a much reduced functionality compared with even SIA's oldest system. My system was defective today with only half the channels working and the majority of those functioning without sound. I alerted the flight attendant to the irritating problem but she made it clear to me it wasn't her fault and that she didn't have almighty powers to do anything about it. Unwilling to fight, I just accepted that I would have no functioning entertainment system.
Continued Despair
A couple of hours later, I decided I would attempt to use the forward lavatory. I walked to the front of the cabin to see the unfortunate sight of the crew emerging from the galley with their drinks cart. My worst suspicions were realised: they were about to begin a drinks service as they swung the trolley into the aisle. As I approached, I thought there would surely be no problem for me to simply pass by and use the restroom considering they had not yet commenced serving. Alas not.
Instead I was faced by a union picket line that only dearest Maggie Thatcher could disband. Rather than gently moving to the side before beginning the service, this delightful crew instead decided to stare at me and just continued to edge towards me, completely ignoring my presence. Now I know I am very good looking and possess a rare charm that is completely irresistible, but this did not impress me in any way whatsoever. The only thing missing from the venue were the placards of government and bourgeoisie-focussed abuse to accompany these fat, beer-gutted unionists. Instead, the accompaniment was mere silence. They just stared at me and I finally relented: obviously they were not going to allow me to use the washroom so I decided to cut my losses and return to my seat. Perhaps in future Economy Class passengers should just be fitted with a catheter. It really would be far more dignified and save the gymnastics of manoeuvring out of those appalling seats.
The Toilets
Upon finally reaching the toilet only moments before a messy accident, I was met with an absolutely disgusting washroom. What was more alarming was that it was one of the flight attendants who exited it immediately before me. Though I wouldn't be quite so awful as to blame him for the mess, surely one person cannot physically make such a mess single-handedly, I would like to ask why he left it as such, particularly when he saw me queuing to use it as he emerged.
Breakfast
Dearest Joyce was back. I had missed her while she was away in the crew bunks resting her acidic tongue for another round of abuse. I cheerfully greeted her and she very almost smiled. Unfortunately her facial muscles couldn%u2019t quite muster the strength and she returned to her neutral scowl, asking whether I would be having the omelette or the seafood noodles. Feeling a little oriental after my dalliance in Hong Kong, I decided on the seafood noodles and they actually weren't all that bad. If anything aboard this flight was to stand out as a highlight, these greasy, oily noodles would do the trick. The excitement of finding something satisfactory was immensely satisfying.
Descent
About 50 minutes before arrival, Her Maj's man came over the PA to announce our descent into Los Angeles and continued his trail of deceit about our estimated time of arrival, which he suggested would be approximately 12.24pm. Descent was a very rough affair indeed and we seemed to circle forever, exceeding our estimated arrival time by about 15 minutes. We made a very fast, rough approach and touched down smoothly at just after 12.40pm. No reverse thrust used and we exited the taxiway to make our way to Tom Bradley.
Arrival
Cathay Pacific, in line with other Oneworld partners who operate selected codeshares on behalf of American Airlines, park at the Tom Bradley International Terminal but disembark through Terminal 4. Terminal 4, for those of you who have not been fortunate enough to visit, is an abomination like no other. Having left the aerobridge, there were teams of ground staff screaming at the top of their lungs at Cathay passengers, telling them where to go and how to change terminals via the war-time war trenches. No microphones, just screaming. I was just waiting to hear the sound of bullets to round of this authentically modest experience. Joined the non-citizen US immigration queue where we remained for 1 hr 25 minutes, by which time our United Airlines connecting flight had long since departed. And to think that it was only our singular flight being handled. What an unmitigated disgrace. A shameful exhibition of airport inefficiency indeed.
Verdict
Judging by the report above, it is glaringly obvious that this was an excellent flight. It was so excellently vile that it was actually quite impressive, chiefly because of the consistency with which Cathay Pacific was able to deliver.
Every element of the flight was utterly appalling. I have never witnessed a lazier cabin crew complement in my life. Their dismal attitude, coupled by a delayed departure, the aging 747, woefully inadequate seats, defective (antiquated) in-flight entertainment, inedible food, a late arrival and completely incompetent ground handling upon arrival made this the worst flight I have ever experienced. I can categorically say that my subsequent flights on United Airlines and US Airways were vastly superior and that should go a long way in proving to you Cathay loyalists how bad the airline has come.
The fact that we arrived is indeed the only strong point of the experience. Obviously for that I shall be eternally grateful. Once again I shall say that I%u2019ll never fly long-haul in Economy but this time I think I mean it, though it's always a little more tolerable aboard my beloved Singapore Airlines or even my national carrier, Qantas.
One thing I will say categorically is that this is the last time I will ever fly Cathay long-haul, regardless of price.
Check-in 8
Outbound Ground Handling 6
Boarding 3
Service 1
In-flight Entertainment 2
Seat 3
Food 5
Arrival 3
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11482 posts, RR: 54 Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 23820 times:
What a great read, a hoot to say the least. Glad it was you on the plane and not me.
SQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 23682 times:
What a great trip report
From my limited experience with CX in cattle class, I can only say that it is no where as great as it makes itself out to be. From the looks of it, the only thing advanced in that cabin are probably its seats with foldable headrest. CX's inflight entertainment on the majority of its older aircrafts are a joke. So is its selection of food. While SQ's new Y class serviceware, that was previously seen only on its 77W and A380s and are now being introduced to the rest of the fleet, look classy and designed to hold enough food to fill a grown man, CX's new serviceware looks like a cheap copy of my 5 year old niece's play set.
I've always felt that the mixed nationality concept doesn't quite work for crews as the differences in culture, first language make for poor teamwork especially in a packed Y class. I know frequent travelers rave about CX's F and J class crew, but I've never felt that their Y class crew have what it takes to be so called 5 stars.
I know this is a CX TR, but I just have to say this... SQ has the best and most consistent Y class product in the industry. With the introduction of the new 77W and A380 cabins, SQ is now light years ahead of any competition in terms of comfort, entertainment, food and crew.
Calvin99 From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2001, 218 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 23481 times:
I feel really sorry about your experience with Cathay... From what I read above, it doesn't sound like the same airline I have been flying, bear in mind I travel mostly on Y and HKG-LAX is one of the most frequent sectors I used to fly.
The cabin crew that you experienced definitely is no where near Cathay standard however I do believe that Cathay have some inconsistency issues. The airline is expanding real fast at the moment so quality is a little bit hard to control. Having said that, the worst flight that I have ever got on is still no where near what you mentioned above.
CX Y cabin is dated and they are working to improve it. The new Y seat should provide significant product along with much needed IFE upgrade. I believe this is the first time CX is investing so much on the new Y seat and I do hope that it can satisfy you when you got the chance to sample it.
Having not enough menu and asked you to share? I can't believe it happend.
I agree that CX meal quality is not good... especially out of Hong Kong. However, I don't know if they are doing anything about it the moment.
I am also curious how tall are you? I am 6"1' and I find the CX seat to be fairly comfortable. I always manage to sleep more than 7 hours on HKG-LAX. My knee never really touched the seat in front of me and I always able to strech out a bit.
Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter):
Passport control and security screening simply weren't up to scratch and they clearly did not acknowledge that I, yes I, was travelling. I was offered nothing in the way of a personal escort and nor was I even offered a separate line free from the other peasants who surrounded me with their incessant coughing, spluttering and shrieking akin to a drowning seal. And to think this nonsense was conducted in some dreadful regional Asian dialect. I think some people refer to it as Chinese. Must be spoken by those people in China. Alas I digress.
I am wondering though.. why you need a personal escort here?? and whats wrong with regional Asian dialect? R u trying to degrade some ppl or i am not getting your joke here?
Having said that... I hope you won't judge CX based on this flight. This certainly represent one of the worst CX experience and sometime.. it might be just back luck. Every airline have some off flight. Bear in mind the last time I flew SQ (4 years ago)... my PTV was INOP.. the cabin crew said it was tough luck.. and the flight was delayed by over 2 hours.
Scuddy123 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 14 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 23233 times:
Certainly different from the run of the mill trip report and made for entertaining reading....
Carfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1447 posts, RR: 9 Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 23181 times:
Thanks for a very insightful report!
Really to no surprise! CX has really allowed itself to drop to such a disgrace in the back of the bus.
Really want to meet Joyce, too! Such a pleasant F/A!
I am totally speechless.
This report will definitely be forwarded to all my friends and family!
CX you better be reading it and taking this report seriously!
VikingA346 From Sweden, joined Oct 2006, 489 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23129 times:
Excellent trip report and I think you did indeed master the English language, contrary to some of the other comments degrading your use of it. You are clearly well education and are able to verbally express yourself very well.
As for you - you're probably a spoiled brat who has not experienced the brilliance of cattle class very often. Ever heard the saying you get what you pay for? Well, Cathay is supposedly a very good airline but lets face it, you chose to buy a Y ticket and not a J of F ticket. Obviously your ability to dig deep into your bank account and come up with the money is going to have a factor in this, but remember that when you fly in Y and pay for a Y fare, you are not going to get the service and quality that you would expect in a premium cabin. The ultimate goal of any airline is to get you to your destination safely, and that's exactly what CX did. As for your experience, I'm sure it was not half as bad as you made it out to be. If I had to classify your short story as a genre, I would put it in the category of cynical comedy. I'm sure that your trip was not good to say the least, but I'm almost positive that most of your experienced were far exagerated.
Next time, cough up the extra grain for a J ticket and don't whine like a spoiled brat about your experience in cattle.
I do admit, I really enjoyed your trip report but I have absolutely zero sympathy for you.
Viking
...you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you shall return
Allrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 1180 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23051 times:
I thought passengers weren't allowed to bring their own alcohol on board, but it seems like you had a good supply of whine for this flight.
I flew a number of flights, in economy, with CX in March/April last year and found them to be excellent. Yes, the food wasn't up to scratch on all but one leg of the flight, but I found their entertainment to be the best out of the non-AVOD carriers that I have flown. And if you have no tolerance for other nationalities' customs and language skills, why do you bother travelling at all?
CX 4ever From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 129 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23052 times:
Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter): Upon reaching seat 66D, which might well have been 660D, I was reminded of why I don't care much for Economy Class and try my best to avoid it.
Upon reading this line, I immediately decided to jump to the bottom of this page to write you this comment.
I feel sorry that you have made the biggest mistake in your life for flying in Economy Class, something that you "don"t care much for" ever. No need to blame yourself. Everyone makes mistake. Just make sure you don't hit "Economy Class" when you book online next time.
Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter): yes I, was travelling. I was offered nothing in the way of a personal escort and nor was I even offered a separate line free from the other peasants who surrounded me with their incessant coughing, spluttering and shrieking akin to a drowning seal.
Yes everyone was travelling, too. Why should you be offered personal escort? Also stop addressing other fellow passengers "peasants." Who are you? The King? That's just rude and remember you are not any superior than any others in the line from the way you speak.
Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter): one of the male attendants made it clear I was being a nuisance and strongly encouraged that I return. Faced with the possibility of this delightfully vile attendant's threat of murder for invading his quarters
If you ever care to listen to the PA, it is US government regulation that prohibits passengers from congregating in the aisle, galley or toilet areas. It is stated clearly after take-off over the PA system. Control your temper and listen. Nobody was accusing you of murdering. Don't be silly, please.
Now back to your inflight experience. To a certain extent CX's service has gone down a little, but it shouldn't sound as bad as you portrait in your so-called "report". Right from the beginning your impression to me is that you love pushing people to their mental limit. Think thrice what kind of attitude you showed to the crew before you complain about the bad service you received in return. Show some respect, or else you will just be treated the same way even if you fly First Class on other top-rated airlines. That’s all.
Caspritz78 From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 517 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 22870 times:
I really like the language of the report and you pointed some details out that are even Y not okay. Still a lot of the things you expected like more food, having enough space, having privacy are things that don't work well with Y. Anyway I hope to read a trip reprort from you flying in First soon.
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 5119 posts, RR: 80 Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 22851 times:
I'd say this is a somehow ambitious try to present a trip report gloss, but the numerous disrespectful comments about other individuals are not really amusing but rather awkward.
SR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1640 posts, RR: 50 Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 22801 times:
Humorous and entertaining report with too much whining thrown in.
Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter): I replied "anything alcoholic to numb the pain please", politely of course.
Good to see CX has finally learnt how to answer passengers like the counterparts at SQ. Better late than never I say!
Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter): Menus were distributed and we were asked to share one between two or three as there weren%u2019t enough. Five star indeed.
Hey, at least you got one. On my last SQ flight the F/A refused to give me one citing "I have to save it for the passengers that need it." Looks like CX did you a favor by letting you share it unlike my lovely and graceful Singapore girl.
Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter): Attempting to do so with a 6'2 stature is not particularly easy and I had great difficulty achieving any mild degree of success.
No different than any other airline, even SQ is equally uncomfortable.
Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter): though it's always a little more tolerable aboard my beloved Singapore Airlines
All I can say is you sound more and more like a certain other member on this board.
Quoting KrisworldB777 (Thread starter): One thing I will say categorically is that this is the last time I will ever fly Cathay long-haul, regardless of price.
Thank god! Considering your negative feedback to your old CX report, I find it surprising you degraded yourself by flying them again.
EXAAUADL From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 4083 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 22751 times:
good detail, but your style of writing is annoying. Youre probably not as good a writer as you think you are.
Blrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1100 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 22506 times:
I have flown CX YVR-HKG-KUL-HKG-YVR in Y in 2006. The food was bad and quantity was much less than SQ/AI. The IFE was pretty basic too, with movies/shows running on 20 channels continuously which you couldn't start/stop/pause like on SQ flights. However, the service was average, the bathrooms clean and FAs weren't rude at all. I flew AF & NW to India some time back, and I would compare CX to them. They were pretty similar in food/IFE/service.
QantasAirways From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1257 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 22440 times:
Anthony, Anthony, Anthony.. I just HAD to drop you a line after reading this report, even though I'm supposed to duck out..
This was a hilarious trip report!! I love the way you wrote it - some of the things you wrote are what goes on in my head when travelling long haul, but I never dare to say them out loud!
And for those members criticising his writing, I am sure he had his tongue firmly planted in cheek.. Especially with regards to personal escort and "Chinese dialect" hahaha.
Joyce sounds cute and I hope she has recovered from the trauma she encountered in you on this flight.. :P
Am I to believe that you rate Qantas higher than beloved CX now?
Docpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1882 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22293 times:
Having travelled SIN-HKG-LAX-HKG-SIN myself in the past month, I completely concur with KrisworldB777's views. The service was just atrocious.
At least I got the new CX products from LAX-HKG-SIN (Do CX regularly send the 77W from HKG to SIN cos that was a pleasant surprise) but the great hardware does not make up for the lack of service, smiles and warm touches. Some nice touches SQ has that CX doesn't:
1) Free newspapers in Y. All sorts of newspapers. The only paper I got on CX was ex SIN, and it was a free paper!
2) Proper ceramic plates for the main course and not some disposable cheap plastic thing
3) Proper menus that are bound
4) Cheese and crackers for the main meal
5) A proper glass to go with my meal
6) SQ's new IFE has far better choices than CX's new IFE
7) Hot Towels
THAT SAID, the fare I paid for CX was ridiculously cheap for SIN-LAX, at about USD900 INCLUDING TAX. SQ would have cost about USD700 more and I am more than willing to rough it out in CX if they continue to charge ridiculously cheap prices ex SIN. (Cheese and crackers and newspapers do not cost USD700). After all, that's probably the only way they can continue to get anyone to fly with them in Y!
AY104 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 472 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 22194 times:
Thank You so much indeed for a very entertaining read !
I must commend you on your command of the English language, and the ability to express yourself in such a tongue-in-cheek fashion. I have often been told that some of my writing is excellent, but my effort at expression is in no way comparable to yours.
I really do believe that a lot of what you said is, in fact, often exactly what we are all thinking at various times. Whether or not we have the courage to admit this to others is another thing. I also realize that you are far more intelligent than to expect sincere sympathy. I always put the ability to laugh at impossible situations, and also at oneself, above all other character traits.
Because of cultural, language and personality differences, I realize that a lot of people totally missed the humor and sarcastic wit in your report. However, I must say that this is the most entertaining I have read.
Cheers,
AY104
The only thing a customer should expect for his/her loyalty is good service
GarethW From New Zealand, joined Apr 2006, 308 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 21923 times:
Well I thought that was outstanding.....
Its a real shame that obviously many don't understand the humour.
Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 9): As for you - you're probably a spoiled brat who has not experienced the brilliance of cattle class very often
Get a life.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14): I'd say this is a somehow ambitious try to present a trip report gloss, but the numerous disrespectful comments about other individuals are not really amusing but rather awkward.
Get a life.
Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 16): good detail, but your style of writing is annoying. Youre probably not as good a writer as you think you are
Get a life.
Ive never understood how people on these forums bother to whinge about things they read and obviously don't like. There are absolute volumes of information, reports, thread etc on here so why read something you either a, don't like the style of or b, disagree with what is being said. Bizarre.
I had a great 15 minutes of my life reading that. Priceless.
Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you again,
The real shame is that certain people seem to be unable to accept differing opinions on certain subjects. You like a report, others don't. That's life.
Quoting GarethW (Reply 23): There are absolute volumes of information, reports, thread etc on here so why read something you either a, don't like the style of or b, disagree with what is being said. Bizarre.
Last time I checked this has been a free public board where everybody can leave his opinion.
Quoting GarethW (Reply 23): Ive never understood how people on these forums bother to whinge about things they read and obviously don't like.
Are you referring to your own comments in reply 23?
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Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice...
25 BA319-131: Funny, very funny indeed! - Love this bit! - That's very true. Rgds Mark
26 SQ772: I don't quite understand how many of those members here who's first language is English fail to see the 'tongue in cheek' humour that has been planted
27 Airxliban: Brilliant report! Extremely, extremely amusing. I don't condone whining, but I am the master of it myself and can totally relate! I flew this route in
28 Carmy: I'm really glad I read this report, thanks for a very entertaining read!!
29 Bwaflyer: Thank you so much for this trip report - I laughed out loud several times while reading it. Everytime you describe Joyce, in my mind's eye I can see L
30 BAViscount: I didn't get very far into this well-written report before I was envisaging the kind of responses it would get...and; feeling a little smug; I have to
32 Evan767: The man wasn't whining. Whining is for kids who can't get their way. This man had problems. Would you call an utterly disgusting lavatory after a flig
33 Ag92: Are you an elite member with Cathay Pacific or are you some king? I'm sorry I didn't get you. Was there a reason you had to suggest an Indian woman.
34 Lufthansa: Here here! The boy wasn't serious... now for those whose first language isn't Anglise, Englisch, Engelska etc... fair enough the humor may be lost. B
35 Aveugle: An amazing read! I greatly appreciated your humor. Great Trip Report, too bad it wasn't just a great trip....
36 UA772IAD: Incorrect. Passengers may not cue or congregate in the forward galley near the cockpit and are discouraged from congregating and cuing in the aisles.
37 Airpearl: Oh wow, when did a trip report last have this effect... lol But stepping lightly around this bloody minefield of acrimony ... just noticed that CX is
38 Andrewtang: That's probably true as there are now a handful of Singaporean crews working onboard CX, although the chance of you seeing them will be much higher o
39 Teamspeedy: GOLD!!!!! this has got to be one of the best TR on a.net
40 Tootallsd: Darling its 'queue' not 'cue'. Sheesh.
41 HKGKaiTak: It was an amusing read. Thanks for posting. A lot of humour used here although I must admit I really hope some of the remarks really WAS as tongue in
42 Evan767: NO. He was simply stating the facts. The woman was INDIAN. Had she been American, or in this case Australian, would that be racist? No. It was an adj
43 Fbgdavidson: A masterpiece of the English language! I knew when this had 40 replies in just a couple of days it had to be a good'un! I can see why it has rubbed a
44 BMIFlyer: Nice report! The seats on CX in Y, somehow look very very comfy Lee
45 Deguoren: I suggest taking the ship over the pacific next time. Or fly with SQ - because we all know that SQ is the best airline in the world, with its headquar
46 KrisworldB777: My oh my, what a fuss! To those of you with positive responses, I thank you sincerely for your commendations. I am glad you managed to extract some en
47 Dimoko: Really Really enjoyed reading this. I have been on some long haul economy flights, and this report skillfully captures the experience. I love the bit
48 BWI757: Brilliant! Vestiges of your SIA comedy abound! BWI757
49 Crjflyer35: KrisWorldB777, truly a great read!! I'm American buy blood, but raised English, and this has got to be one of the funniest things I've ever read, I wo
50 AY104: Please...never tell anyone to be practical. I am a 58 year old man, and I have never been practical in my life. I attribute that, plus the fact that
51 Celestar: I read with great interest on this posting. I like CX and based on numerous years of travelling with them, they do have a consistent level of service
52 UK_Dispatcher: Your style of writing a report does not appeal to me personally. Nevertheless, I finished reading it. Everyone is different and I can see that most p
53 Pacifique75: UK_Dispatcher, by your username I assume you are (just like me) an airline employee... For that reason, I guess "we see things differently" and know
54 DocPepz: The FA was ruder than ever and was far from being bullied! With such an attitude, she should lose her job, regardless of which carrier she's working
55 Lufthansa: I have to agree here. If they're gonna go out of there way to be rude to customers they should be fired, in ANY customer service role. Everybody who
56 Pacifique75: Even before the F/A served him, he is already with a negative/judgemental opinion simply based on her makeup/looks! This just shows he is already com
57 SQ772: It's like saying I will have no fear of being sacked if I sat at my desk all day in the office, not bothering to answer calls from clients, being rud
58 Pacifique75: SQ772, where was I advocating being rude to a passenger?? Dont try twist my words, please! I am not Mr Perfect but in 15 years I've been cabin crew I
59 KrisworldB777: Rubbish. If you take the time to read things carefully, you would have noticed that my first impression upon boarding was: What a load of drivel. I r
60 Singapore_Air: HAHAHAHAA. I've had such laughs reading this. A fine grasp of the English language manifested in a well-written report with tongue-in-cheek humour. I
61 B707forever: The only word I came up when reflecting on this report is "bourgeois," for both CX and the writer. They actually seemed the perfect match and I would
62 HZ747300: Having to fly Cathay almost exclusively I have to say that the thing they need to work the most on in service is hiding their indifference. From check
63 AirlineBrat: What a wonderful read. I flew CX between LAX and HKG almost two years ago. It looks like the food was slightly better then. Do the Catholic high schoo
64 GrahamHill: Very nice TR. I enjoyed a lot your sense of humor. I'm sorry you did not have a pleasant flight.
65 Stylo777: this report is for sure a burner great way of write! did the same route on UA last Nov., but in Business and I've to say that I enjoyed it, maybe the
66 B747forever: Awsome TR What a great sense of humor you have. Lovely TR. So pity that you didnt enjoy your flight with CX. Have never heard so bad about them. Thank
67 Wowpeter: hahaha... what can I say... I have a good laugh with regard to this very arrogant and disrespectful report. It is fair enough if you do not enjoy your
68 Anthonyd: Amazing report! Pity not everyone on this board appreciates your sense of humour or your ability to make light of some of the nastier aspects of the i
69 MHTripple7: Wow your sense of humor is amazing. I really enjoyed the read. Sucks about CX though...I thought they were much better.
70 Chiawei: I think you are blowing things way out of proportion. I took CX alot out of SFO or LAX to HKG. (In fact just took a 14 hour flight into HKG 2 weeks ag
71 KrisworldB777: Thank you once again for the continued feedback everyone. Disagree. I fly Qantas regularly and can say quite categorically their service is of a super
72 A1ring23: Oh Anthony! What a laugh! Thank you for keeping me entertained for a good 15 minutes. Normally I tend to skim read and just look at the pics, but man
73 Watewate: One of the best TRs! I think this type of TRs would get a better reception at FT. I've read a few TRs like the one you posted, and they were instant c
74 Pellegrine: Even though this trip report is a year + old, I'd hadn't read it. It is quite funny. I appreciate your brand of humor. I think so too since FT caters
75 Directorguy: Great TR-I agree the humour can be offending to some, but nontheless it's a great read. Wonderful bite. Thanks for sharing.
76 KrisworldB777: I can't believe this old relic has been dug up from the past. Boy it's nice to recall the lovely Joyce! As a follow up, I did get a very nice letter f
77 KrisworldB777: Haha yes that's true! I can't believe Qantas didn't install PTVs on the newly delivered domestic A332s. That said, my last couple of flights to Sydne
78 Pellegrine: Write us a trip rapport of the J/F class! (I appreciate these the most!)
79 KrisworldB777: Okay, deal. I have a few trips on SQ and QF in J coming up so I'll write a report on one of those!
80 VHSMM: The indignity of economy class travel in the finest possible prose. I share your pain.
81 Carmy: Haha I couldn't stop laughing while reading this TR. Nice one!
82 Docpepz: Whoever bumped this up, thank you..... I read it last year and laughed as many times reading it again today. Having flown CX to the US and back from S
83 Iahredhead: Yes, this was a good read. I flew CX HKG - SFO about three weeks ago in Y. I didn't have the bad experience the OP had. To me, it was just another lon
84 Ojas: Amazing TR!!!!! I must not have laughed so much while reading it ...... extraordinary!! As many voiced their opinion, some comments may offend few but
85 DeltaT7: What a fantastically written report! A shame people don't understand your humor, but please keep these TR's coming!
86 CMK10: Thank you for brightening up my work day. Any tips on how to land more than one wife?
87 Airbear: Hi KrisworldB777 ... yes, it was good to read that old TR again. But only US$75 compo for an inop IFE system? My brother - a rusted-on QF fan - once
88 YOW346: Flawless English! You must be from a Commonwealth realm. I was absolutely delighted by your sharp humor. From what I gather, this report is dated, how
89 ManekS: Great Report! CX is one of the worst airlines I have ever flown on with the rudest and most unhelpful crew I've come across. My flight to YYZ was my f
90 MilesDependent: I read most of the reports on here, but somehow this one passed me by the first time. Fan-f*cking-tastic. Loved it. 10/10.
91 Timpdx: Great read. I flew CX 8 years ago on one of the longest flights in the world at the time, from California to HK. I was frankly blown away by IFE in th
92 KSANcoFlyer: I have to agree, I flew CX r/t LAX-HKG and I was completely satisfied, I enjoyed every minute of it!
93 KrisworldB777: Thanks everyone for the continued feedback, despite this report being a real dinosaur. That's extremely generous compensation: I've not heard of any a
94 ClassicLover: Superb trip report! ... what is also amusing are all the people up in arms about you wanting a personal escort! Agree with one of the other posters -
95 Henkybaby: The report was excellent (thanks for the bump!) and a great laugh. Reading the replies was even more entertaining. I hope you have a couple of more lo
96 Semsem: The legroom looks awful. The CEO was recently interviewed and it was clear they were going to cut heavily on service.
97 Basefly: Hello. As many have already said here: GREAT TRIP REPORT! I can only dream of your style of writing, if anyone ever decides to publish a book on Airpo
98 Airbear: Hi KrisworldB777 ... nope, just a common-or-garden variety Gold like myself. But yeah... he was pretty stunned by the high amount, too. But having sa
99 GVAJFKflyer: Not quoting any particular reply ... "He who does not tolerate a joke can hardly can hardly cope with thought" (Sacha Guitry)
100 SInGAPORE_AIR: What a wonderfully written trip report KrisWorldB777 ! You obviously have a well-practiced talent for writing and dry wit. I am sure it will serve yo