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Korean Air KE 702: 07/OCT/07: NRT-ICN: J Cabin  
User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5130 posts, RR: 55
Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 32382 times:

Feedback always appreciated.

Trip Report: 040
Flight Category: J-ISR (See Report End)
Date: 07-Oct-07
SDT/SAT/Delay: 1255/1520/02:25 hrs
Flight: Korean Air Lines KE 702, 783 miles
Routing: NRT-ICN
Aircraft: 744
Seat: Business (“Prestige”), 20A – Upper Deck

I > Background:

Ok, I am back! After taking a sabbatical from trip reports for 5 months, here is the first installation from a series of trip reports. Mid-August to mid-November 2007 saw the craziest of my travel plans. 69 flights totalling 175,028 kms on 35 airlines, visiting 49 airports in 34 countries in all 6 continents. And, here is the best part … all of them were part of a 4 month break from life … pure vacation, and pure food for the mind, body, and soul. Together, they mounted to 21/2 round-the-worlds that was truly insane. As usual, all long haul flights were on Business or First Class; short haul was on Economy Class.

I have seen relatively few TR’s on KE’s J class product, and have actually never read a review of their J class on a shorter regional flight on A.Net. So here is hoping to fill that void. The reason for this flight was that it formed part of a convoluted routing to get from Yap (in FSM) to Auckland (New Zealand). While they are not super far apart, lack of connectivity meant that my routing ended up being YAP-GUM-NRT-ICN-AKL. Thank God, the flying was in J. It would have been far more painful sitting at the back.

II > Pre-Flight:

a) Before Airport:
Korean Air provides an excellent hub-spoke system from their beautiful and efficient hub at Incheon airport in the outskirts of Seoul. ICN is a far cry from those of us who remember SEL. Though, I must admit that getting to/from ICN is so much worse than SEL.

Given the complicated routing, booking for this segment was done through my super awesome travel agent in Caracas. She is an angel and my life here in CCS would be a logistical nightmare without her! I was surprisingly issued a paper ticket (despite all being e-ticket stations, and the entire itinerary being on Skyteam) which was viewable online on the websites of CO, but not on KE. I called KE’s toll-free number in the U.S. and procured ideal seat selections with ease.

b) At Airport:
I don’t understand those who find transiting through NRT to be difficult. I find it extremely pleasant, and the Japanese are A+ hosts. I can go on about their professionalism and sense of service with panache. After arriving from CO’s flight ex-GUM, we proceeded through quick security to re-enter the terminal 1 at Narita.

Since I had some time to kill, I went to the rather modest KE lounge and chilled. While the lounge is nothing special, it gives you spectacular views of the tarmac … and that for any airline enthusiast is far more appealing than some food platter . So I settled down on a window seat and watched airplanes go by while nibbling on a motley assortment of snacks, and alternating on a bizarre cocktail of café and tomato juice. Free wireless internet, and several computer terminals were also useful to check some emails and catch up on the “real world”.
Boarding was announced inside the lounge and I proceeded to gate 27 for boarding. There was already a long line … but I noticed a separate one for J and P passengers. It should be noted that the line (see picture) is deceiving as the load for this 744 was rather light.

Upon boarding, the lead FA motioned to her colleague to walk me upstairs and I followed a beautiful Korean stewardess to the top of the 744. It does not matter how many times I have flown … the upper deck continues to fascinate me with its air of exclusivity. Load was super light – probably 30% in J. The upper deck had only 4 other passengers. It speaks volumes on the traditional importance of the Japanese market to Korean carriers as they send a refurbished J product to NRT, but use old-style J for the long brutal flight to AKL that was to follow.

Airport - External:

NONE

Check-in:

NONE

Airport - Internal:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/001.jpg

(Departure board, T1 – N)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/002.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/003.jpg

Scenes of the tarmac:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/004.jpg

(Looks even smaller when contrasted with NRT’s mostly wide-body ops)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/005.jpg

(JL Power)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/006.jpg

(…and the better performing rival)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/008.jpg

(JL Again)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/009.jpg

(Shiny JL Cargo)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/010.jpg

(Narita 1N)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/011.jpg

(CO 763 that brought me in from GUM)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/012.jpg

(NWA off to SEA)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/013.jpg

(Star operators)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/014.jpg

(More JL)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/015.jpg

(MH to KLIA)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/016.jpg

(Another JL Cargo)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/017.jpg

Lounge

(Invitation)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/018.jpg

(Welcome)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/019.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/020.jpg

(Computer terminals)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/021.jpg

(Random collection of stuff I ate as I plane spotted)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/022.jpg

Boarding:

(YAY….I fly Business Class)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/023.jpg

III> In-Flight:

a) Service Schedule + Impressions:
Cold refreshing towels upon embarkation and a choice of drink. Post take-off a beverage service accompanied by a complete meal service.

b) Aircraft + Seats:
I love 744’s, and this was particular one was kept spanking clean throughout. KE recently went through a product overhaul introducing striking crew uniforms (they really do look great), and a new Business Class product. However, I wish they had gone full-flat instead of angular lie-flat. While it is probably one of the more comfortable angular flat seats I have encountered, it still does not beat the feeling of lying on a full-flat bed seat. However, it is to be noted that the overall space on KE is much better than comparable products on AF or NW. Even in recline mode, there was ample legroom and my knees did not get “stuck” on the top of the seat opening. Recline position is also better than most angular-flat seat. It sort of felt like the SQ Raffles seat – just more fresh.

Aircraft:

(Photo Courtesy: Alex Pan)


Views from Aircraft:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/025.jpg

(Another ICN bound flight)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/027.jpg

(TK to IST)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/028.jpg

(PR to MNL. 744 justified by the tons of migrant laborers Pinoys provide in Japan)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/029.jpg

Seat Leg-Room:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/030.jpg

Seat Recline + Angle View:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/031.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/032.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/033.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/034.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/035.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/036.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/038.jpg

Cabin:

(Upper Deck of refurbished 744 J)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/039.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/040.jpg

(Gotta love the windows and storage space of the 744 upper deck)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/041.jpg

(Bathroom)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/042.jpg

c) Meal + Beverage:
Service commenced with a choice of drinks while on the ground. For those unfamiliar with KE service, they provide an excellent guava juice that I highly recommend. It is actually one of my favourite reasons (I know, super random) to fly Korean. After take-off, a pre-“light meal” beverage service commenced where I chose to have a rather stiff Bloody Mary. Now comes the interesting part … KE’s “light meal” option included basically an abridged version of its regular lunch service … just fewer options. As much as I LOVE “Bibimpap”, I really hope KE got a little more creative with their food options. I have had “Bibimpap” on 9 KE J flights this year. Korean food is so diverse and there could be so many exciting things that Korean could present. Despite the unimaginative menu, the actual “Bibimpap” as always was excellent. KE’s purser was cute when she said, “Mr. AM, your elite status with us shows you know how to make a Bibimpap I think.”

(El Menu)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/043.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/044.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/045.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/046.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/047.jpg

(Welcome drinks – the EXCELLENT guava juice)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/048.jpg

(Inflight Bloody Mary)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/049.jpg

(Oh My God … I am shocked! Its Bibimpap!)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/050.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/051.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/052.jpg

d) Inflight Entertainment:

Korean Air’s new IFE provides over 300 hour of on-demand entertainment and has a decent mix of English and non-English films. However, I found the CHEAP head-sets normally found in Economy to be very classless and absolutely pathetic for premium passengers. I mean, I had paid a significant amount of money to receive cheap crappy head-sets. It really took away from the IFE experience. The “Morning Calm” magazine was great as usual.

(In-flight magazines, Boarding Passes, etc.)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/060.jpg

(IFE System)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/054.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/055.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/056.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/057.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/058.jpg

(The absolutely unacceptable headset for a premium cabin. WTF? Why would I pay so much money and get this?)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/059.jpg

e) Crew:
I love the new KE uniforms, and the KE crew was great as usual. Polite, and anticipating needs, they did a good job within the short flight.

IV> Post-Flight:

Incheon is always a delight. I was able to transfer quickly to my KE flight to AKL after using one of the KE lounges.

(Arriving @ ICN)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/061.jpg

(Disembarkation)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/062.jpg

(ICN)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/063.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/064.jpg

(ICN Lounge Shower)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/065.jpg

V> Impressions + Scores:

KE has a lot going for it. While a lot give it sligtly unjustified criticisms on safety, it’s service standard is impeccable with some fantastic crew members. I do like their new look and think the redesigned seats and interiors are miles ahead of their old J product. Moreover, small touches like new crew uniforms accentuate a bold fresh look. However, I am disappointed with the unimaginative food options, and am flabergasted at the horrible headphones provided to J passengers. C’est la vie. I would not hesitate flying them again. However, given an airline with better seats, I would equally consider the alternatives.

1.0 > RESERVATION: 7.0
2.0 > CHECK-IN: N/A
0.5 > LOUNGE: 6.0
0.5 > BOARDING: 8.0
2.0 > SEAT: 8.0
0.5 > AIRCRAFT OVERALL AMBIENCE: 9.0
1.0 > IFE: 7.0
2.0 > CREW: 9.0
2.0 > FOOD: 8.0
0.5 > BEVERAGES: 8.0
0.5 > A.KITS + OTHER FREEBIES: 8.0
0.5 > DISEMBARKATION: 9.0
1.0 > ON-TIME RECORD: 9.0
WEIGHTED OVERALL IMPRESSION (WOI): 8.04
(Pre-flight WOI of all reviews: 6.39)
* Weighted Overall Impression (WOI) aligns scores with what matters most. Weights are indicated alongside each category.

(Scores are based on comparison with other airlines in THAT class of service – No comparison of Y vs. F for example)

VI> Other Trip Reports:

PREMIUM:
8.56: Paramount Airways (38): BLR-MAA: 09/2007
8.11: Aeroflot (33): MOW-DEL: 09/2007
8.04: Korean AirLines (40): NRT-ICN: 10/2007
8.02: Delta Airlines (24): JFK-CDG: 08/2007
7.82: Singapore Airlines (06): EWR-SIN: 09/2006
6.93: Delta Airlines (18): SEA-JFK: 11/2006
6.81: Air Canada (17): ICN-YYZ: 10/2006
6.70: KLM: EBB-AMS: 08/2007
5.75: Singapore Airlines (16): CCU-SIN: 10/2006
4.42: Air France: CDG-JNB (25): 08/2007

ECONOMY: Long + Medium:
7.38: Avianca (01): BOG-LIM: 07/2006
6.26: Jet Blue (21): CUN-JFK: 02/2007
6.06: Air Canada (04): YYZ-YVR: 09/2006
5.89: USA 3000 (19): PUJ-BDL: 01/2007
5.46: TAP Air Portugal (23): OSL-LIS: 05/2007

ECONOMY: Short
8.24: Kingfisher (14): IXA-GAU: 10/2006
7.87: Indian (34): BOM-MAA: 09/2007
7.72: Alliance Air (13): CCU-IXA: 10/2006
7.57: Indian Airlines (10): DEL-CCU: 09/2006
7.23: West Jet (03): YYC-YVR: 09/2006
7.15: JetLite (37): BOM-GOI: 09/2007
6.70: Spice Jet (09): CCU-DEL: 09/2006
6.58: Air Tran (02): EWR-MDW: 08/2006
6.44: CO Micronesia (39): ROR-YAP: 10/2007
6.33: Kenya Airways (29): NBO-BJM: 08/2007
6.31: Indigo (15): GAU-CCU: 10/2006
6.22: Air Link Swazi (28): MTS-JNB: 08/2007
6.22: Air India (36): HYD-BOM: 09/2007
6.13: Adam Air (07): SIN-CGK: 09/2006
6.00: Transairways (27): INH-MPM: 08/2007
5.95: Air Canada (05): ALB-YYZ: 09/2006
5.85: SAS Norge (22): OSL-AES: 05/2007
5.81: LAM Mozambique (26): JNB-MPM: 08/2007
5.69: Air Deccan (12): IXZ-CCU: 10/2006
5.67: Rwanda Air Exp (30): KGL-NBO: 08/2007
5.07: Go Air (35): MAA-HYD: 09/2007
4.96: Valuair (08): CGK-SIN: 09/2006
4.74: Fly 540 (31): MYD-LAU: 08/2007
4.33: Viva Aerobus (20): ELP-MTY: 02/2007
4.11: Air Sahara (11): CCU-BOM: 09/2006

(Note on Codes: Y – Economy, J – Business, F – First :: I/D – International/Domestic :: SR/MR/LR – Short/Medium/Long Haul)

VII> Other Pictures:

It has now become customary to share some images of the place I went to, and some other related aviation pictures. Hope everyone enjoys!

(Skimpy amenity kit)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/066.jpg

(Earlier flight with no TR … approaching FUK)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/067.jpg

(FUK airport)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/068.jpg

(MU at FUK)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/KE%20702/069.jpg


Live, and let live.
18 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 32335 times:

An intriguing trip report and an interesting read.


Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineUA777322 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 32058 times:

Another one of your in depth, detail trip reports, excellent as always.

Thanks for taking the time to share.


User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2254 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 31997 times:



Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(CO 763 that brought me in from GUM)

I think you meant 764... Big grin

Great trip report, I love the ones in Asia!



"On spaceship earth there are no passengers...only crew."
User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 942 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 31989 times:

Lovely report. Great detail and lots and lots of really good pictures.

I'd have to agree with you about bibimbap getting a little repetitive. There is so much excellent Korean food so maybe offereing some other options?

Look forward to your next report.



Keeping the "civil" in civil aviation...
User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 31637 times:

Great pictures! Does KE not lay a table cloth over your table before placing your meal tray over it? Or is that not done because the flight is too short?


There's always a better way to fly...
User currently offlineLoadsheet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 31590 times:

FYI:

Your flight was operated with HL7402


User currently offlineSalvation From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 31585 times:

i was on the same routing as you for one of my business trips to singapore last year. I did GUM-NRT(CS), NRT-ICN (KE), and ICN-SIN (KE) and had the new J seats like you from NRT-ICN. I was impressed and had only wished for a much longer flight. As you know, my ICN-SIN was in the traditional J class seats so it was no comparison. I love transiting through ICN and find it seamless just as in NRT too.

What in the world were you doing all the way in YAP? At any rate, hope you enjoyed flying through Micronesia.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 31521 times:

Hi

a great report, with some great pics. Personally I dislike the KE coloursetting on the Upperdeck, the lightblue/white seats look a bit pale to me.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(JL Power)

(…and the better performing rival)

JL is currently making profit again and still undergoing to change their overall product. Also a/c changes on several important international routes are upcoming (e.g. JFK will see 77W shortly). I really hope that oneworld will be good for them!

Cheers,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineTriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 763 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 31469 times:
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From one who lives in Japan and flies out of NRT a lot...your pics made me feel like I was right there.


Have you kissed a 777 today?
User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8596 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 31280 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Another great read and decent pictures, just what we have come to expect!

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(CO 763 that brought me in from GUM)

- Err, 764  Smile

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Seat Recline

- It appears to me that the person in the window seat would have an issue exiting their seat if the isle passenger was was fully reclined.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5130 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 31136 times:

Thanks everyone for the great comments.

Quoting Christao17 (Reply 4):
I'd have to agree with you about bibimbap getting a little repetitive. There is so much excellent Korean food so maybe offereing some other options?

= Yup. Since I first flew KE J in 1997, I have had bibimpap served each and every time. Very unimaginative, especially given the diversity of Korean cuisine (which I find overall excellent and underrated.)

Quoting Homer71 (Reply 3):
I think you meant 764...



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 10):
- Err, 764

= Yup. Nothing escapes A.Netters  Smile. It is indeed a 764.

Quoting SQ772 (Reply 5):
Great pictures! Does KE not lay a table cloth over your table before placing your meal tray over it? Or is that not done because the flight is too short?

= I believe they have for longer flights. I have another KE review coming up.

Quoting Salvation (Reply 7):
What in the world were you doing all the way in YAP? At any rate, hope you enjoyed flying through Micronesia.

= Doing nothing  Smile. I love Yap and found an island which I kinda have to myself  Smile.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 8):
JL is currently making profit again and still undergoing to change their overall product. Also a/c changes on several important international routes are upcoming (e.g. JFK will see 77W shortly). I really hope that oneworld will be good for them!

= I am sure it is. I am a fan of JL ... but its still not as good as a performer as NH.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 10):
- It appears to me that the person in the window seat would have an issue exiting their seat if the isle passenger was was fully reclined.

= Actually, I think its relatively easy as the seat is narrow. One can get up and just go over the persons legs.

Cheers,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 30661 times:

It's always a pleasure to read one of your brilliantly detailed Trip Reports Abrelosojos! The pictures are magnificent as they give more value to your narration!

It's always good to read your trips around the world in J  Wink

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(The absolutely unacceptable headset for a premium cabin. WTF? Why would I pay so much money and get this?)

I agree, that looks like the very cheap headset that brakes if you're not careful enough. Maybe because it's a short flight??

Cheers!



KLM- The Best Airline in the World!
User currently offline5YKQW From Kenya, joined Feb 2007, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 30649 times:

GREAT REPORT! Your attention to detail is amazing.

User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 30318 times:

Perfect TR, like always!

cheers: DALelite



They loved to fly and it showed..
User currently offlineLH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 30284 times:

Very enjoyable report! And I was pleased to spot the tube of chili paste served with your bibimbap--seems that hasn't changed since I last flew KE 9 years ago!
I'm looking forward to the ICN-AKL sector...



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17156 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 29778 times:

Great TR

The pics are great.

As usual a detailed TR.

KE seems not as bad as you often hear. But the main thing that "scare" away pax is their safety history. Will it always follow KE??


Thank you for sharing

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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 29728 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 16):
KE seems not as bad as you often hear. But the main thing that "scare" away pax is their safety history. Will it always follow KE??

well I think the bad is related as you mentioned the "safety history"... not about there inflight service... etc..



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8299 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 28204 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 16):

KE seems not as bad as you often hear. But the main thing that "scare" away pax is their safety history. Will it always follow KE??

MAybe only for people outside the region. Most Asian travelers are aware that KE has gone to great lengths to improve their safety. Walking the halls of ICN and noticing how many foreign crew members they have now certainly reinforces that.



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