Sh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 30470 times:
China Trip 2008 Part 1
Cathay Pacific 777-300ER
CX 841 9:00 AM JFK , Arrive HKG Next Day 2:00 PM
Economy Seat 32A Window
No Empty Seats on this plane
Cost $1200 ( Including Dragonair RT HKG-PVG-HKG )
I have always wanted to go to China and I chose this winter to finally do it. I didn't need a visa for HKG of course, but to enter Mainland China I needed to go to the Chinese Consulate in New York City and get a 6 month multiple Entry Visa and pay $100 USD plus $30 extra for the privilege of picking it up at 2:00PM that day, instead of returning to pick it up in NYC 3 days later. It seems you must get the Visa in person and it cannot be obtained through the mail.
So I only visited 3 major cities, but in the future I would enjoy returning to see the rest of the country the smaller towns, the villages, rural areas, the western part of the country and maybe Tibet too.
Shanghai and Beijing were colder than I would have wished, but Hong Kong was warm and pleasant in January. I found that preferable to the unbearable heat and humidity of July, because I planned to do alot of walking and hiking etc.
There was an unusual heat wave for the 10 days I was in Hong Kong; it was 80*F and sunny / hazy, and I wore a T-shirt without sweatshirt or jacket. Many of the locals were wearing heavy winter coats, and because I hadn't figured out that it actually does get chilly in Hong Kong during the winter, I thought it strange that so many people would wear cold weather jackets just to be seasonally stylish. When I returned to Hong Kong at the end of the month, I found it rainy and damp and 45*F.
I rode the 2:30 AM Connecticut Limousine Bus service from New Haven, CT. to JFK ( RT $120 USD ) so I wouldn't have to park at JFK and also so I didn't have to drive in snow or icy road conditions and possibly start my trip off by getting killed on the Van Wyck. It was a large new luxury bus that stopped 5 or 6 times on the way to JFK to pick up about 10 other people. I was the last person on that bus when they dropped me off at JFK Cathay Pacific Departures at 5:30 AM. Check in before 6 AM and security took 5 minutes.
A full gate area and no place to sit for some. They have lots of battery charging posts and I took advantage of this as I relaxed and drank some juice. 2 large-scale passengers on the right. I was hoping and praying "please dont sit next to me ... God in Heaven, please dont sit next to me". Because I wouldnt really mind on a short flight but on a 16 hour flight it would kill me. But luckily a small person sat next to me and I had more than enough room. These new seats are harder to get into because of the more sever angle, but once seated, theyre are more comfortable than other economy seats.
View of the legroom on new CX 777- 300ER hard-shell Economy seat. The seats are great; the person in front cant recline into your knees and the cushions are comfortable. Overall the IFE was a step above the AC 773ER i flew to Japan last summer.
Cathay Pacific IFE Movie Selection. Lots of movies. Watched Darjeeling Limited , Rush Hour 3, 3:10 to Yuma, and basically everything else. On these long flights they make everyone shut the blinds quite early. This discourages reading because you have to keep the book in your little bright circle of light. Plus, you dont want to annoy others around you trying to sleep with a spotlight.
After a couple of hours they served the first meal : breakfast. I decided on the eggs and the entire meal was delicious. The coconut mousse was delicious and I could have eaten 9 more.
If you ask a FA,they will bring you a snack. These kind of noodles will always taste best on a long haul flight. I would never eat this at home, but onboard, it seems delicious and passes the time.
A couple of movies later, it was time for the second meal. I tried the pasta and it was moist and the sauce was very good. I though the meal was a bit small, and for an American , this is basically an appetizer. But I had brought some of my own snacks ; yogurt covered raisins, cashews, trail mix and some dates, so I didn't feel hungry. CX FAs will get you any beverage you ask for during the flight and there was always one "on duty" in the galley area to pleasantly handle all pax requests.
Finally off the plane. No love for the 777 after 16 hours. I always feel dazed when I fly this long, like Im in a foggy dream. I tried to take some pictures, but I gave up.
Hong Kong Airport Automated People Mover, or train, as they say in the trade. Theres a sign that says "Relax... another train will be along in 2 minutes " This airport is extremely well thought out and so easy to use. Its has better english signage than some airports in English speaking countries.
Hong Kong Airport Immigration Line. I was dressed all wrong for the warm weather and still had my winter coat and had to pace through these ropes for an hour. So I stood there sweating and listening to eveybody cough. I thought I would get their cold by the next day. But actually I was fine until the day I got to Shanghai 10 days later when I came down with a vicious cold with a runny nose.
HKG Baggage claim is a mile long, and it takes a while to find your carousel because of the size, but my bag was right there waiting. Carts are free and you can grab one anywhere.
Hong Kong Airport Arrivals Hall. Its Shiny New and clean and easy to navigate. There is a prominent Tourist help desk with advice in Chinese and English. They are very helpful and had answers to all my questions: like: Where to take the Airport Express ; Where to exchange money etc.
I bought the "Octopus Card". I strongly suggest you buy one if your ever in Hong Kong. Its a debit card that you load with money and you can use on trains, buses, ferries, some taxis, and at at 7/11 and other convenience stores. Its very very helpful. I put about 1000 HK dollars on it ( $150 USD ) and it almost lasted the entire time. You can add money at any one of the zillion 7/11 all over Kowloon or Hong Kong.
The Airport Express Train costs only $100 HKD or about $ 13USD one way to Hong Kong Island in about 30 minutes. Its fast and easy and the trains depart about every 15 minutes.
Sights on The Airport Express.
Here is the Airport Express as it stops in Kowloon. I stayed on until Hong Kong island, a half hour ride.
I took a taxi to my hotel which was 5 minutes away from Central Hong Kong. All the taxis in Hong Kong and Kowloon are red and, the outlying island taxis are blue. Cost was $14 HKD or 2 USD.
View from my Harbor view suite at the Bishop Lei Hotel International House. The room is definitely worth the $10 USD upgrade. Its advertised as being in "the mid levels" but it was a 3 minute walk to the Soho Escalator so I prefer to think of it as in Soho. It was very close to LKF Lan Kwai Fong and the Soho bars and restaurants which meant I could walk home Late at night without taking a taxi.
Bishop Lei Hotel is a good choice if you want to stay in Central Hong Kong without paying Hundreds of dollars more for a 5 star hotel. A taxi from this hotel to the Central MTR Station only takes 5 minutes. You can walk up hill from Central MTR plus use the Soho Escalator to the Hotel in about 25 minutes. Along the way there are hundreds of restaurants and bars and shops giving the place a neighborhood feel; not unlike a Soho in New York City with steep hills.
I forgot to take a decent picture of the bedroom, very large by Hong Kong Standards.
Below are some photos I took while in Hong Kong and Macau.
Koi Carp Chi Lin Nunnery
A Sleeping chicken
Hong Kong Women are stylish and beautiful.
Goat sagittal section. A Damian Hirst you can barbeque.
Coconut Juice Seller Mong Kok
Reflection at Lower Peak Tram Terminal Hong Kong
Grand Lisboa Casino Macau
Medicine Ingredients Sheung Wan Hong Kong
Woman Makes Offering Wong Tai Sin Temple Kowloon
Woman Praying at Shrine Macau
Cathay Pacific Flight 840 HKG-JFK 777-300 ER
7PM Departure , Arrive in JFK 9PM
Exit Row Seat 30 A ,NO Window, So no video
( Especially with the FA sitting 5 feet in front of me )
I had already Checked my Bag at the Airport a full 25 hours before departure, So I was able to get an exit row seat and get a boarding pass too. I took the Airport Express Train From Central Hong Kong at 4:30 PM and arrived at HKG at 5:00PM
Isnt it nice how there are free baggage carts lined up for passengers as they Exit the train. I had no bag, only a backpack so I just passed security and went to the gates. I had a light meal and bought a bag of chocolates and some snacks for the long rode back to NYC. I also bought diet cokes and iced tea but at the gate , just before walking down to the plane, they made us throw away all liquid without a warning. There was even a pile of liquors and wines that were thrown away.
Settling In for the ride. A weird plane ride because its night now, then night for 14 hours, then when you arrive its still night - for all night long. Too much night. Is there worse jet lag than returning back to USA East Coast from Asia?
My Exit Row Seat. Its absolute heaven to be able to sit in "Economy" like this and stretch my legs out. Is it worth an extra 7000 USD to fly J ? Who Knows.
Fold out tray Tables and IFE work great. The guy on the end would not stop complaining to the FAs He must have had 20 instances where he asked them for something. He was doing some fast constant button pushing on his touch screen and he eventually broke it. So He complained more and they gave him a free bottle of wine, which was nice of them.
Second meal. I'm not sure why it was breakfast during the hours and hours of black night. I would have liked another "dinner" type meal, but the breakfast with sausage and eggs was enjoyable.
Here are three of the excellent Cathay Pacific FAs. They worked very hard all through the flight to get snacks or water, or other beverages or cope with anything at all. I would definitely fly Cathay Pacific again to Hong Kong on the strength of their new planes, comfortable new seats and state of the art IFE, and most of all courteous helpful crews.
If Interested, take a look at more of my Hong Kong Photos at Flicker:
AznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2259 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day ago) and read 29697 times:
Hey!
I just returned from HKG on CO via EWR; I even bought the same Time Out book as well! Didn't get to go to the mainland this time, but did go to BKK on EK. Awesome report and look forward to your trip to China!
The journey of life is not based on the accomplishments, but the experience.
Triple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 487 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day ago) and read 29652 times:
It's interesting when this flight is classified as a "trans Pacific" flight even though it is all over land. Too bad you had no window view on the return. I would have loved to see the pics.
Smi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 713 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 19 hours ago) and read 28962 times:
HAHA love the fact they serve Fosters lol, including myself and all my mates am yet to meet an Aussie bloke or girl for that matter thet enjoys the stuff lol!! Rather hard to find in Aus well in Melbourne at least! lol
Sh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 17 hours ago) and read 28738 times:
Thanks for the kind responses. Honk Kong is a stunning drop dead gorgeous city if you like urban spaces and modern structures. I normally would have flown *A for the miles, but I couldn't resist the brand new CX 777s.
Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 4): Your pictures and comments are very good and make me think I probably should stat saving some €€€€€ to reach such a great destination as HKG.
Thats funny, I'm saving up to go to Barcelona and Southern Spain and other places in Europe. Its getting more difficult as my dollars shrink though. Yes, go as soon as possible. The HKD is pegged to the USD so your Euros will go along way. Food is very reasonable and delicious.
Asuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2195 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 hour ago) and read 27597 times:
Freaking sweet trip report. I went to HKG in November 2006 and flew CO's EWR-HKG. It was a great trip. HKG is easily one of my favorite cities. I hope to make it back again soon and visit a couple of mainland cities too!
Sh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 27357 times:
I think so , $1200 RT from JFK, and HKG-PVG-HKG on Dragonair was included in the price. If I went with a * A Airline i think the Dragonair RT would have been about $500 USD more. I think its much higher demand to go to HKG in summer. Probably $1600 to $2000.
Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 14): I hope to make it back again soon and visit a couple of mainland cities too!
Yeah , mainland cities are massive and have a different energy and are well worth seeing. Very impressive. I wanted to get to Shenzhen, but I skipped it, because I had too much to see in HK and because I wanted to visit Macau. Maybe next time.
Ardian From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 421 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 27248 times:
Wow, excellent tripreport! I've browsed through your flickr account and I have to say; you have some amazing and beautiful pictures posted there! The Hong Kong street food pictures made me very hungry!
SQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1772 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 27033 times:
Wow... excellent pictures all round. I love it when people actually care to compose their pictures before snapping them. It's great to read about CX's new YCL seat. It doesn't look extremely comfortable, with the tiny headrest and all, but I guess the spacious leg room makes up for it. How tall are you by the way?
One of my pet peeves about CX is their new servicewares for their meals, as well as its content. CX is probably the only leading Asian carrier that doesn't include cheese and crackers in their main meals, and instead replaces them with tiny pieces of chocolate at a 'hundred' pieces per bag which can be bought dirt cheap at local mini-marts. Y class meals do look rather 'cheap' and 'basic' on CX.
CO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2839 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 26829 times:
Very well written report and nice pictures as well...
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13606 posts, RR: 25 Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 25681 times:
An intriguing trip report, Sh0rtybr0wn.
01 OCTOBER 2009: This user has retired from aviation to the status of lurker. Thanks Airliners.net for some great times
Agmyvr From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 142 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 25515 times:
Quoting SQ772 (Reply 18): One of my pet peeves about CX is their new servicewares for their meals, as well as its content. CX is probably the only leading Asian carrier that doesn't include cheese and crackers in their main meals, and instead replaces them with tiny pieces of chocolate at a 'hundred' pieces per bag which can be bought dirt cheap at local mini-marts. Y class meals do look rather 'cheap' and 'basic' on CX.
All airline products are bought in bulk.... SQ probably pays 1 cent per package of crakers from 'Khong Guan' which you can buy loosely in sundry shops around HDBs...hahaha
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 6400 posts, RR: 52 Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 25254 times:
Great report, nice selection of pix too, thanks.
The meals look pretty decent, which is good given the length of these flights.
Quoting Sh0rtybr0wn (Thread starter): After a couple of hours they served the first meal : breakfast. I decided on the eggs and the entire meal was delicious. The coconut mousse was delicious
- Nice, though I think coconut is an odd choice of desert, not to everyones taste.
Quoting Sh0rtybr0wn (Thread starter): My Exit Row Seat. Its absolute heaven to be able to sit in "Economy" like this and stretch my legs out.
- Nice legroom, though the lack of window would upset me.
Sh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 25186 times:
Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 22): - Nice legroom, though the lack of window would upset me.
The legroom to stretch out for 16 hours is a real luxury in the economy section. The lack of a window was only a small disappointment really, because we took off in the dark and landed in the dark, and the whole flight was during night. So there was nothing to see anyway.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 2999 posts, RR: 8 Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 24924 times:
Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 4): Your pictures and comments are very good and make me think I probably should stat saving some €€€€€ to reach such a great destination as HKG.
CX seems to offer a decent product, although I am now more in the *A section.
I went to HKG last year also on CX and I can highly recommend it, just like Shortybrown! It really is a great place to visit. And make sure to see more than just Kowloon (for example Aberdeen and Repulse Bay).
Quoting B747forever (Reply 6): Glad that you had a good flight with CX. Heard that they can be really bad in service.
I have also flown CX and also highly recommend them. IMHO those stories about bad service are either exagerrated or the exeption that confirms the rule.
Quoting Sh0rtybr0wn (Reply 23): The legroom to stretch out for 16 hours is a real luxury in the economy section. The lack of a window was only a small disappointment really, because we took off in the dark and landed in the dark, and the whole flight was during night. So there was nothing to see anyway.
I hear ya. I had the exit row on an AF 77W last January, and it was well worth giving up the window. Well, I had a porthole to look through if I really bent over forward, but still. It was also a night flight and had no regrets whatsoever. And that was only a 6 hour flight! (IAD-CDG).
25 LPOZ: Great trip report Does anyone know if all direct HKG-JFK flights on CX are now on the new 777-300ER or do they use both old and new 773s? The CX websi
26 NZ107: Excellent TR, thanks. Great pics. I hope they bring the 77W down to AKL sometime soon! The 773s are configured for CXs short/medium haul services, so
27 Sh0rtybr0wn: The CX 773s ( 777-300 ) are regional aircraft, and not capable of the JFK flight. They are scheduled to have their interiors upgraded in 2008. Cathay
28 AirlineBrat: Great trip report. You took a lot of great pictures. I flew CX between LAX and HKG two years ago. I bought an CX All Asia pass for $1400 and tagged on
29 IliriBDL: Wonderful TR. Have to visit Hong Kong in the future. (and other Chinese cities)
30 PanAm330: AWESOME trip report, man! Your pictures (both in the thread and in the Flickr link provided) were amazing! I've always wanted to get to HKG, and would
31 Semsem: CX seems to be a great airline. Nice to see that some airlines still offer decent service to Economy class passengers.
32 AfklmLHLX: Fabulous report! Although I have never flown CX, they seem like they create a great ambiance and offer great service on their flights. I recently took