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Five 767s - LIM-PER With LA And NZ  
User currently offlineStevePER From Australia, joined May 2004, 74 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9042 times:

This is the fifth and final installment of my trip to South America from October/November 2007. In previous episodes...


At the end of the last report we had arrived back in Lima from Cusco and had 13.5 hours until our late evening flight to Santiago, the start of our journey home. In this report we fly LIM-SCL-IPC-PPT-AKL-PER with LAN and Air New Zealand, some in economy, some in business class.


LAN LA635
Monday, November 26, 2007
Lima (Jorge Chávez) (LIM/SPIM) - Santiago (Comodoro Arturo Merino Benítez)

Duration: 3h20, 1524mi
Departure: 22:45 (scheduled) 22:45 (actual)
Arrival: 03:05+1 (scheduled) 03:05+1 (actual)
Seats: 23J/L (economy class)
Aircraft: Boeing 767-316/ER CC-CDP

Following our arrival from Cusco that morning (flying TACA) we thought we'd try our luck checking in for this flight over 12 hours before departure. We tried first at the machines but they rejected us - the friendly and helpful staff said we should try at the counter. Checking in was no problem at all, despite being so early and being slightly over the 20kg per person baggage allowance following shopping in Cusco. The whole LAN check-in experience at Lima is very well run. It is fast and there are plenty of staff - quite a contrast to our check-in experiences for other LAN flights.

After that we left some of our hand-luggage behind at the left luggage service, and spent the day seeing the sights of Lima.

Plaza Mayor, Lima


At the end of the day we were in Miraflores, probably the nicest neighbourhood in the city. We found a taxi and agreed on a price to the airport - after a couple of minutes we pulled in to get petrol. Normally this would bother me but we had heaps of time and the journey was a fixed price. After about a minute there was some shouting outside and it seemed they had filled our driver's taxi with diesel! He was quite upset (justifiable considering he's probably lost his income for the whole evening while he sorts this out) but he still took the time to organise a replacement taxi for us and ensure that we weren't going to miss our flight while apologising repeatedly for the problem.

We made it back to the airport in our replacement taxi at 19:45 (and paid 10 soles less than our previously agreed price). We bought a bottle of water (very expensive at 4 soles, compared to the usual street price of 1 sole) and then proceeded into the departures area. First we had to pay the extortionate departure tax - US$30 each, which we had to pay in cash. I was once again left with a lots of change that I couldn't use for anything, because they insist on setting the tax in US dollars rather than their own currency. Why not make it a nice round 85 or 90 soles? Paying airport taxes was the only time in Peru that I encountered the 1 cent coin.

Then it was through immigration and security where the liquids rule is in place, but with a more relaxed interpretation that limits the total amount rather than the individual container size. Our 200mL sunscreen was safe!


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Strangely that's where my notes end for this flight. I remember we bought something small to eat and waited for our flight to board (via an aerobridge this time I think). We pushed back on time and then I would have tried to get some sleep.

We arrived right on time in Santiago at the unfriendly hour of 03:05, went through immigration, collected our bags, and headed across the road to the Holiday Inn that's located right outside. I'm still not sure whether it was worth having a hotel room for these few hours but at least we managed to get a bit of sleep.


LAN LA841
Tuesday, November 27, 2007
Santiago (Comodoro Arturo Merino Benítez) - Easter Island (Mataveri) (IPC/SCIP)

Duration: 5h40, 2336mi
Departure: 09:10 (scheduled) 09:15 (actual)
Arrival: 12:50 (scheduled) 12:35 (actual)
Seats: 22A/C (economy class)
Aircraft: Boeing 767-383/ER CC-CGN

After only a few hours sleep, we forced ourselves to get up and wandered across the road to the airport terminal. There was only a short queue at check-in but while queuing we were offered an upgrade to business class for US$225 each. They could see that we were seriously considering the offer and asked multiple times, and then called us forward to jump the queue and gave us a final chance (which we declined). They must have been oversold in economy. My wife's bag got a priority tag for some reason, but mine didn't. Hmmm.


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Waiting by the gate we saw that we had CC-CGN again (same as our GIG-SCL flight, the worst of our 17 flights so far on our South America trip). But it turned out not to be so bad... the in-flight entertainment system was turned on this time, and featured a U2 concert, The Simpons Movie (again!), Everybody Loves Raymond, and something else as well. Shortly after take-off we were served breakfast - I had a fairly plain egg and cheese omelette with tomato on the side, the other option was a warm cheese and ham sandwich. There was a second service on this flight as well, when we were offered a beef and cheese roll not long before we commenced our descent into Easter Island.

Approach into Easter Island


Hanga Roa, main town on the island


180 degree turn at Mataveri Airport


We arrived on time and disembarked via the front and rear stairs. There was a rabble around the luggage carousel as usual, but the bags didn't take too long and shortly after we were on our way to our hotel and an excellent day and a half in one of the most isolated places on earth - great people, great sights, and great food.

More photos of Easter Island



LAN LA833
Wednesday, November 28, 2007
Easter Island (Mataveri) (IPC/SCIP) - Papeete (Faa'a) (PPT/NTAA)

Duration: 5h55, 2644mi
Departure: 22:25 (scheduled) 22:30 (actual)
Arrival: 23:20 (scheduled) 22:45 (actual)
Seats: 3J/L (business class)
Aircraft: Boeing 767-375/ER CC-CRG

We arrived early and following our experience in Santiago we decided to ask about purchasing an upgrade to business class. Since this was a night flight, we thought it was more worthwhile than it would have been the previous day. We were told we could upgrade for US$300 for the almost 6 hour flight, and we agreed. (It took well over a month for the charge to appear on my credit card - I thought for a while that we might have got away with it for free!). It would be nice if all airlines offered a similar upgrade system, but I can understand why they don't.

Car park at Mataveri Airport


Airport Terminal


We went through immigration (just a single officer on duty and looking very bored!) and then security - no stupid liquids rule in this part of the world. With only six flights per week departing from Easter Island, there isn't any form of business class lounge. Just padded seats inside the building, and plastic seats outside. Our aircraft arrived at around 21:00 so I took a few photos while there was still enough light.

Airside


Our aircraft arriving from SCL


CC-CRG on the tarmac


Boarding was around 22:00 and we were a bit disappointed to find this was one of the non-refurbished 767s. A small consolation is that I can now compare LAN's old and new business class. In contrast to the modern business class seats on the upgraded aircraft that recline to a fully flat bed, these seats seemed to have a lot of padding so they were quite soft. The foot rest was uncomfortable - I'm not super tall but when it was folded down I had to bend my legs slightly, when it was folded up it sat uncomfortably behind my ankles. The headrest was floppy and annoying.

We were offered a pre-departure drink (probably my last pisco sour for a while!) and then pushed back at 22:30, about five minutes late. We taxied down the runway, did a 360 degree turn, and then we were off.

Shortly after take-off the food started to appear. We started with a fairly plain salad with cheese and lettuce and a balsamic vinigar dressing, followed by a nice tender bit of steak for main course with an unexciting sauce (supposedly mushroom, but without much taste). Alternatives were catch of the day (tuna), fresh from Rapa Nui, or gnocchi (my wife had this and said it wasn't particularly good). Dessert was a delicious creme caramel with a little chocolate. I also had a very nice cabernet sauvignon which was flavourful and delicious.

In business class we each had a personal TV with four channels - options on this flight were The Simpsons Movie (yet again - also shown on the main screen) or Nancy Drew or No Reservations or some football movie that I didn't get the name of. After dinner the crew came around with bottles of water for everyone before we got some sleep - I really appreciate little touches like this. I really like the amenities kit also - it's just the usual stuff but it's packaged in a handy fabric bag with a drawstring.

The lights were turned on just before arrival and we came into Tahiti after a shorter than expected 5h23 flight time. Travelling in business class meant that we were one of the first few immigration again (I think I surprised the immigration officer by greeting him with 'iorana'). As we waited for bags we could see the queue growing longer very rapidly! The bags only took about five minutes to come out, we went through the "nothing to declare" aisle and were outside by 23:00.

Unfortunately our early arrival meant we ended up waiting about 20 minutes for our transport to arrive, and then a further delay while we waited for another guest at our guesthouse to decide where he was going to stay the night (he ended up deciding to stay elsewhere with people he'd just met on the flight - very poor form I thought).

Photos from Tahiti



Air New Zealand NZ41
Friday, November 30, 2007
Papeete (Faa'a) (PPT/NTAA) - Auckland (AKL/NZAA)

Duration: 6h05, 2544mi
Departure: 08:00 (scheduled) 08:28 (actual)
Arrival: 13:05+1 (scheduled) 13:20+1 (actual)
Seats: 2A/B (business class)
Aircraft: Boeing 767-319/ER ZK-NCJ

We arrived at Tahiti Faa'a airport pretty early in the morning to find check-in queues of similar lengths for both economy and business class. It took about 15 minutes to get to the front, with an intermediate passport and ticket check to make sure we were in the right place. We were issued with boarding passes through to Perth, and given a lounge invite (we never received one for our PPT-SCL flight on LAN, but found our way into the lounge regardless).

We dropped our bags off at the x-ray machine, then headed through customs and security. We used the last of our coinage to buy chocolate and then went into the lounge, the only air conditioned part of the terminal and therefore very pleasant. There were some breakfast foods on offer, such as cereal and juice and an intermittent supply of pastries. There was also a fantastic view over the tarmac - the island of Moorea in the background, and lots of activity at this time in the morning. There was an Air France 777, our NZ 767 arriving, plenty of Air Tahiti ATR72s and some Air Moorea Twin Otters.

Air Tahiti ATR-72, Air France 777, and Moorea in the background


ZK-NCJ, on the ground at PPT


When we saw people boarding we went downstairs to the gate but weren't allowed to board... after 10 minutes or so business class passengers were allowed through the gate but couldn't proceed onto the aircraft due to a medical evacuation being loaded into seat 4A. The ground staff seemed a bit stressed but kept us informed the whole time - they seemed to be doing everything they could in the circumstances which was appreciated. After a bit of a wait the business class passengers sitting on the other side of the aircraft were allowed on, and finally those of us in A/B seats.

Prior to departure we were offered orange juice, water or champagne. We pushed back about half an hour late and were treated with wonderful views of Moorea and Tahiti as we commenced our climb.

Moorea


Tahiti


Pre-breakfast drinks were offered - orange juice or a honey and banana smoothie. Then breakfast which was one of the better airline breakfasts I can remember. We started with cereal, yoghurt and fruit, then we had bread and pastries, and finally a choice of french toast with passionfruit, or scrambled egg with salmon, or a cold breakfast of bread, cheese, ham, etc. The egg was really nice.

We had our own little screens (very small!) to watch a choice of movies that were available in business class. Just as well - the Simpsons Movie was on yet again back in economy. We probably could have watched it about eight times on our trip if we felt so inclined. I watched the X-Files Movie for a bit of retro entertainment.

I should mention the cabin crew - we had good experiences with cabin crew on all our business class flights, but on this particular flight they were extra attentive to our needs and happy to engage us and other passengers in conversation. I remember when they pointed out when we were about to cross the International Date Line and might feel a slight bump! Also when handing out immigration cards chatting about our trip and how we should be spending more time in New Zealand. I can't think of any more specifics but they were a level above all our other flights.

About to cross the International Date Line


Crossing the International Date Line


About 90 minutes from our arrival into Auckland we were asked if we wanted anything else, such as a drink, a sandwich, or a piece of cake. I couldn't resist and had a small piece of an excellent chocolate cake.

New Zealand looked beautiful as we crossed the coast and descended into Auckland. I'm really looking forward to going back in May.

Arriving over New Zealand




After landing we had to wait a while for our gate to become available, and then there was a further delay trying to get the aerobridge to attach to deploy correctly. Once inside the terminal we checked for the gate for our flight to Perth, and saw it was boarding in 5 minutes. Now that's cutting things a bit fine...

International terminal at Auckland



Air New Zealand NZ176
Saturday, December 1, 2007
Auckland (AKL/NZAA) - Perth (PER/YPPH)

Duration: 7h35, 3323mi
Departure: 14:05 (scheduled) 14:33 (actual)
Arrival: 17:40 (scheduled) 18:00 (actual)
Seats: 2J/K (business class)
Aircraft: Boeing 767-319/ER ZK-NCI

We had to go through a transit security check which included the stupid liquids rule. The amentities kits that we'd just taken off our flight were apparently fine, but my wife's lip gloss was cause for concern. Slipping it into an amenities kit made everything better though. If there's logic in these rules, I don't know what it is. We then walked to the gate and boarded a few minutes later.

The same welcome drinks were offered as on our previous flight - orange juice, water, or champagne. Pushing back was delayed due to a shortage of ground handlers... there's an excuse I haven't heard before. Prior to taking off we were asked what drinks we would like once we got into the air. That's a nice touch that speeds up the service once we get going. After our departure, it only took a few minutes before we crossed the New Zealand coast and then there were many hours flying over the ocean with nothing to see.

Crossing the New Zealand coastline


Once we had gained some altitude, the drink was served with a snack of olives, sundried tomato, cheese and pepperoni). I was forced to drink pinot noir because they had run out of my first choice - life is tough.

When the in-flight entertainment system was fired up, I was pleased to find a new selection of movies (because we had crossed the International Date Line we were now into December). There was no sign of the Simpsons Movie! I watched Shortcut to Happiness (must have been bad because I can't remember it at all) and Transformers (excellent!).

There was a lunch service shortly after the snack service - Air New Zealand were definitely keeping us well fed! We had an entree of cajun prawns, then fish with potato and brocolli (unfortunately they had run out of the lamb, which was my first choice). For dessert there was apple crumble with dessert wine.

Menu



Before arrival into Perth we had yet another meal - it wasn't dinner time so I will call it second lunch. There was fruit to start (orange, melon and pineapple) and then a beef wrap or a chicken panini. I had the panini, which was served with coleslaw. I found this a bit unusual. We had a choice of lamington or friand for dessert plus some chocolates.

Western Australia


We arrived into Perth slightly late due to our late departure and were quickly through immigration (it's always good to be at the front of the queue). We had to show our yellow fever vaccination certificates for the first time on the trip because we had been to Peru in the last 7 days. Once the bags came through we went through customs and declared a heap of things made of wood, as well as various foods. No problems taking any of it through, and they were actually a lot less thorough than on our return from Vietnam the previous year.

Perth International Airport



Conclusion

In business class, LAN's non-upgraded 767s are showing their age and the Air New Zealand 767 business class is superior. The service on Air New Zealand was also more consistent than on LAN, and also seemed friendlier (but perhaps this is due to sharing a common language). However, LAN's upgraded 767s impressed me greatly on the way to South America with a fully flat bed and 17" TV and I would rank them ahead of Air New Zealand. Overall a fantastic trip but it was great to be home. We had flown over 34,000 miles in 23 flights on five airlines and been to many amazing places.

I hope you enjoyed this report - feedback is always welcome! For my next report, we'll have something completely different with a short flight from Jandakot (Perth's general aviation airport) to Cunderdin (156km east of Perth in the wheatbelt region) where I had my first experience in a glider.


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User currently offlineQantasA333 From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8918 times:

Great report!

The picture you took of the International Date Line, is that a line down the middle of the page eg a floating thing in the water showing the Line, or is just my imagination?

Cheers
QantasA333


User currently offlineRaggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1001 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8885 times:

That AF 777 seems to have had a Airbus A330/A340 nosejob  Wink


nice report though!



raggi



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User currently offlineRetrolivery From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8579 times:

Great report, I've always been curious about LAN. My mother is getting married within the year in Lima, and we're looking at booking the JFK-LIM flight.

Quoting QantasA333 (Reply 1):
The picture you took of the International Date Line, is that a line down the middle of the page eg a floating thing in the water showing the Line, or is just my imagination?

Yeah, i noticed that too: what is that solid-looking line in the water? Surely there isn't a waterborne indicator of the Int'l Dateline stretching all the way from the Bering Sea to the Southern Pacific??



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User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8381 times:



Quoting Raggi (Reply 2):
That AF 777 seems to have had a Airbus A330/A340 nosejob Wink


Judging by the 'IG' on it's nose gear door, it is probably F-GNIG an A340-313X


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User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8304 times:



Quoting QantasA333 (Reply 1):
The picture you took of the International Date Line, is that a line down the middle of the page eg a floating thing in the water showing the Line, or is just my imagination?

Exact same question. Maybe a coincidence? A lower condensation line made by some jet?



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User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8208 times:



Quoting StevePER (Thread starter):
I hope you enjoyed this report

Dearly !!!... Thank you for sharing such a wonderful and beautiful TR !!!...

Hey Steve, it just hit me, we have both been members of A.net from pretty much the same time now !!!...

... Congratulations on our 4th anniversary at A.net !!!...  birthday 

All right, I haven´t flown NZ yet, but I can tell you I pretty much love LAN for many years already !!!

Best regards



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User currently offlineHardkor From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8006 times:



Quoting KLM685 (Reply 5):

I thought of the exact same thing when I saw that picture! Can anyone clear this up? Otherwise, great report, amazing picture of the South Pacific!


User currently offlineAOMlover From France, joined Jul 2001, 1305 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8006 times:

Great report ! I flew the IPC-PPT route last November in a refurbished LAN 767: the IFE was superb.

I'd be interested in knowing what you thought of your stay in Tahiti. How many days did you stay there ? Did you get to see other islands ?
Tahiti is a place that I deeply love, and I always want to hear what those who've been there have to say about the place because the gap between the "Tahiti of my dreams" and the "Tahiti of reality" can be huge.


User currently offlineStevePER From Australia, joined May 2004, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7899 times:



Quoting Retrolivery (Reply 3):

Yeah, i noticed that too: what is that solid-looking line in the water? Surely there isn't a waterborne indicator of the Int'l Dateline stretching all the way from the Bering Sea to the Southern Pacific??

Maybe I have edited that photo slightly.  biggrin 

Quoting Raggi (Reply 2):
That AF 777 seems to have had a Airbus A330/A340 nosejob Wink

Well that was a stupid and somewhat obvious mistake. Doh! Thanks for pointing it out.

Quoting AOMlover (Reply 8):
I'd be interested in knowing what you thought of your stay in Tahiti. How many days did you stay there ? Did you get to see other islands ?
Tahiti is a place that I deeply love, and I always want to hear what those who've been there have to say about the place because the gap between the "Tahiti of my dreams" and the "Tahiti of reality" can be huge.

We only stayed one day in Tahiti (two nights) - we also visited Bora Bora on the way to South America. Tahiti is an interesting place but not one I would go back to in a hurry. We didn't arrive with massive expectations and while we enjoyed our time there it wasn't one of the highlights of our trip. Everything is really expensive (even at the markets) and I don't think it's worth the price. Bora Bora, on the other hand, was something very special. If I went back to French Polynesia I would like to visit some of the other islands. I've heard the Cook Islands are really good also but with lower prices - that might be an option one day.

Thanks for all your comments!
Steve



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User currently offlineKrisworldB777 From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 571 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7377 times:

Very good report StevePER.

I am thinking of doing a trip from PER to AKL in J on NZ a bit later in the year so I found that segment particularly interesting.

How did you find the seats aboard the 763s? I recall them being quite old and basic or have they since been upgraded?


User currently offlineStevePER From Australia, joined May 2004, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7229 times:



Quoting KrisworldB777 (Reply 10):
I am thinking of doing a trip from PER to AKL in J on NZ a bit later in the year so I found that segment particularly interesting.

How did you find the seats aboard the 763s? I recall them being quite old and basic or have they since been upgraded?

They are quite old and basic but comfortable for sitting on. I didn't think they were very good for sleeping on but the main problem with PER-AKL is the flight is completely the wrong time for sleeping anyway. But the service was pretty good on all our NZ flights which made a big difference.

We're going back to New Zealand in May (in economy this time) and I'm trying to work out the best sleep strategy - sleep in late on the day of the flight and don't expect to sleep on board, or get up early in order to be tired for the flight?

Steve



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User currently offlineHornetfan From New Zealand, joined Mar 2007, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7187 times:



Quoting StevePER (Reply 11):
We're going back to New Zealand in May (in economy this time) and I'm trying to work out the best sleep strategy - sleep in late on the day of the flight and don't expect to sleep on board, or get up early in order to be tired for the flight?

I have done this flight many times and have tried many sleep patterns, the one that pays dividends seems to be, have a normal day in Perth, sleep if you can on the flight, maybe an hour or so, then straight to bed when you get to Auckland and up again at around 10am local time. That left me with enough energy for the day and also meant I could get to sleep easily that night as well. Alternatively fly Qantas and arrive in Auckland at around midnight.


User currently offlineStevePER From Australia, joined May 2004, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7122 times:



Quoting Hornetfan (Reply 12):
I have done this flight many times and have tried many sleep patterns, the one that pays dividends seems to be, have a normal day in Perth, sleep if you can on the flight, maybe an hour or so, then straight to bed when you get to Auckland and up again at around 10am local time. That left me with enough energy for the day and also meant I could get to sleep easily that night as well.

That's exactly what we did on the way to South America, and it worked out pretty well. The Stamford Plaza let us check in nice and early and we got some sleep on arrival. So it works great if you have somewhere to sleep! I hope we can do the same thing again (we're going to Dunedin this time) but it's accommodation dependent.

Quoting Hornetfan (Reply 12):
Alternatively fly Qantas and arrive in Auckland at around midnight.

We've done this before as well and had a really good trip. We just slept in a cheap hotel near the airport and the next day we were ready to start our holiday. But unfortunately Qantas charges more than $256 for a return trip so we'll stick with Air New Zealand this time around!  biggrin 

Steve



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4829 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6899 times:

Nice TR! I haven't read the others as yet... will have to do that soon!  Smile

Quoting StevePER (Thread starter):
International terminal at Auckland

Wow, I don't think I have seen so many airlines at AKL at one time for years.. thats quite a good pic you have there!



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User currently offlinePilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6727 times:

Excellent report!

I flew J class PER-AKL-PER a few weeks ago and it was the same menu both ways!

Quoting KrisworldB777 (Reply 10):
I am thinking of doing a trip from PER to AKL in J on NZ a bit later in the year so I found that segment particularly interesting.

How did you find the seats aboard the 763s? I recall them being quite old and basic or have they since been upgraded?



Quoting StevePER (Reply 11):
They are quite old and basic but comfortable for sitting on. I didn't think they were very good for sleeping on but the main problem with PER-AKL is the flight is completely the wrong time for sleeping anyway. But the service was pretty good on all our NZ flights which made a big difference.

As StevePER said the seats arent very good for sleeping, but they are comfortable and have good recline and pitch.

But if your thinking about going J, do it only a few hundred $$ more and i felt that the extra upgrade was worth it, the service was good and food was tasty! - my thoughts anyway!



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6510 times:



Quoting QantasA333 (Reply 1):
The picture you took of the International Date Line, is that a line down the middle of the page eg a floating thing in the water showing the Line, or is just my imagination?

Wonder that also. Looks pretty funny.

Nice TR however

The pics are really good.

That sculptures from Easter Island looks nice.


Thank you for sharing

B747forever



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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5855 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6123 times:

great report, how did you find Lima and where did you stay? I hear Miraflores is probably the safer area for tourists? did you do Bolivia?

I'm heading that way around this time next year....Cuzco, where did you stay there and is it difficult getting from there to Machu Picchu ?



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User currently offlineStevePER From Australia, joined May 2004, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6069 times:



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 17):
great report, how did you find Lima and where did you stay? I hear Miraflores is probably the safer area for tourists? did you do Bolivia?

We stayed in Lima on two separate nights, both times with late arrivals and early departures. We stayed at the Crowne Plaza in Miraflores. The room was nice (we had a huge suite both times, I think these are their normal rooms) but we didn't get out of the hotel to check out the neighbourhood. We chose to stay there because it only cost us 5000 Priority Club points per night. After arriving back in Lima from Cusco we had a whole day in Lima - Miraflores is definitely the safest area for tourists. We didn't visit Bolivia.

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I'm heading that way around this time next year....Cuzco, where did you stay there and is it difficult getting from there to Machu Picchu ?

We stayed at Torre Dorada - it's in the suburbs but the owners are really friendly and are happy to give you transport to and from the centre of town at any time. They also helped us organise our time to make the most of our stay. To get to Machu Picchu (assuming you don't want to hike) takes about four hours on the train and is easy to organise - book online at perurail.com or book a package through your hotel. You can do it in a day trip, which limits how much time you can spend at the ruins, or stay overnight in the town. We chose to stay overnight and really appreciated having the afternoon in the ruins with fewer people around once all the daytrippers had left. It also meant that we had the benefit of a guide in the first half of the day and then the freedom to be on our own in the second half.

If you're interested you can view my photos here.

Steve



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Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6002 times:
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Nice report, really enjoyed the read and pictures.

Quoting StevePER (Thread starter):
There was also a fantastic view over the tarmac - the island of Moorea in the background, and lots of activity at this time in the morning. There was an Air France 777, our NZ 767 arriving, plenty of Air Tahiti ATR72s and some Air Moorea Twin Otters.

- Slight error, looks like a 343 to me.

Quoting StevePER (Thread starter):
We had to go through a transit security check which included the stupid liquids rule. The amentities kits that we'd just taken off our flight were apparently fine, but my wife's lip gloss was cause for concern. Slipping it into an amenities kit made everything better though. If there's logic in these rules, I don't know what it is.

- I know, these liquid rules are daft and lack concistency.

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Mark



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Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5913 times:



Quoting StevePER (Reply 18):
If you're interested you can view my photos

doing that right now, thanks!

thanks for the info on Peru, not sure that I can trust the Lonely Planet guide book anymore..  Wink



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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5855 posts, RR: 39
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5731 times:

where did you o/n at Machu Picchu? I'm thinking that the 4hr trip might require me to do an overnight.


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Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5632 times:



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 21):
where did you o/n at Machu Picchu? I'm thinking that the 4hr trip might require me to do an overnight.

I think staying overnight is a good choice. It's quite tricky to find good, reasonably priced accommodation. We stayed at La Pequeña Casita for US$50 per night. It's not very good but is tolerable for one night. There were numerous small problems with our room (nothing major) and the breakfast is very basic. On the other hand the location is pretty good - it's close to the railway station so you won't have to walk far with your luggage.

Steve



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