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SYD-BKK-LHR On Qantas And BA (LONG!)  
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 32
Posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8294 times:


I have written about these flights before, but they were part of a huge trip report, and being the last two flights i was too tired to write in any detail. Also, it was my first ever trip report so i was not sure what sort of content.

SYD-BKK, 18th August 2000, Qantas VH-*** B747-400. 6pm

We arrived at the terminal on the airport bus, which had taken us from the domestic terminal. I don't remember going through check-in or customs, but as it was a connection i suppose that was all done at the previous airport. The weather was wet outside, and it was quite cool.

We all went our own ways in the Sydney International Terminal, which i have to say, is one of the biggest terminals i have been in. I took time to go on the internet for 15 minutes where i emailed some of my friends. There was a shop, i can't remember if it was completely Aviation but there were alot of models there. I took a look around, and ended up rushing and Bought a Herpa AA 777.

We had to rush to our gate because i spent so long looking in the shops, but we were stopped by an announcement that said our flight was delayed an hour or so because of maintenence to engine no.4. So i went back and swapped my AA777 with a QF 744, which happened to have all of its undercarriage broken off so i swapped it again for a JAL 777, which turned out to be a JAL 747!!!

We went to get a coffee, and sat down in the restaurant watching the planes go in and out. As far as i can remember time went very quickly, and we were soon called for boarding.

By now it was Dark outside, we were called onto the aircraft in rows, 50-70, 1-20, 20-50. We were some of the last to board, and we found our seats a couple of rows behind the bulkhead. Our family of 4 were split in to 2, each with 2 seats closest to the window one behind the other. Unfortunetely the whole flight was at night, so we never saw anything, and this was our only long haul flight by the window!!!

As we waited for the cargo door to be closed, and pushback clearance to be given, a video was shown on Bangkok, our Destination. The Tv's, above the isle were quite hard to see, and you have to constantly twist your neck from the window seat to watch it, i prefer the design on the A320 where the tv's flip down from overhead of the seats.

Pushback finally arrived, and we taxied the short distance to 9R (?). We lined up, with only 2/3 of the runway ahead of us, the pilot wound up the engines and took off the brakes. We endured a very quick takeoff role, and rotation came moments before the end of the runway, and we climbed out over the water.

After my long day, i immediately tried to get some shut-eye, but was soon woken by our dinner, which i ignored. The pilot came on through the PA, and gave us some information on the route, weather etc. We were in for a bumpy ride, with Thunderstorms stretching from Brisbane all the way to hong Kong, and as far West as Durban and Singapore.

We briskly reached FL350, our cruise altitude, and most people fell asleep. No longer than 1 hour into the flight, we entered some cloud, and quite rough Turbulence. The pilot changed between altitude alot, and quite often we were skimming through the tops of the thunderstorms, sometimes the sky was clear, and it would be calm, and then we would see cloud coming, the air would get rough and we would get turbulence. This continued for the whole flight, and quite often we would receive an un-nerving bump, but not once would was the fasten you seatbelt sign lit!!!

I love the QF seats, they may look tatty, but they are really wide and comfortable, alot better than BA's IMO, but i didn't like the lack of a PTV!!! Big grin. 8 1/2 hours into our flight we began decent into BKK, alot of this was spent in cloud, all i could see out of my window was the strobe lights reflecting off the water vapour.

The cabin lights were flicked on, and everyone awoke. I was surprised at about 3000ft we reached the cloudbase, revealing the dull lights of Bangkok, i was surprised at just how little light there was.

After spending a long time circling Bangkok, we finally started our final approach. The pilot made an excellent landing, and we were rushed off the runway as a Thai Airways 744 came charging down the runway just as we left it.

All the passengers who's journey ended in BKK got off the aircraft, including myself and my family, we got our bags and made our way into the BKK arrivals hall. I have to say, Bangkok is one of the most annoying and dis-organized airports i have ever been too, the time was 12:30am and we waited an hour at Immegration trying to get everything sorted, not only did they faf around but there seemed to be alot of shady characters walking around not doing anything!!!

We finally found our way out of the airport, after being met by an odd man, who took us to our hotel on the other side of Bangkok.

BKK-LHR, August 20th, British Airways, G-(Colum c/s) B747-400 Evening/Night!

After a very odd meal at our hotel, we made our way to BKK airport for our final flight back to the UK. After seeing some crazy motorists on the freeway we found the Airport. Chaos ensued as our Bags were X-rayed, then given a ticket, moved to another line and handed in our ticket which was stamped. Then, before checking in we had to find somewhere to pay the airport tax fee, which happened to be closed so we joined a long line at the airport help desk which was taking in all Airport tax.

We proceeded to the check-in desks, and then through security, before making our way to the departure lounge. Having no seats, we spent 1 1/2 hours looking round the same shops, at souvenirs that were not of much use. 45 minutes before departure we made our way to the gate, which took longer than expected because the travelators were going THE WRONG WAY. Our Gate happened to be the farthest away, which didn't surprise me as it seemed to happen to us every time on our trip  Sad

Our tickets were checked, and we made our way through to another depature lounge by our gate, which was full, so we had to sit on the floor. Finally our flight was called, we walked through the jetway, and into the familiar sight of a BA jumbo. Met by some very unhappy Stewardesses, and made our way to our seats, on the very last row of the 747 in the middle.

We sat down, and were very anxious to leave. Our Aircraft pushed back promptly, and we taxied to our departure runway. After holding for a couple of minutes, we lined up on the runway. the engines spooled up, and we made our way down the runway. Spending an extraordinarily long time on the ground, a few passengers became very unsettled, even me!! Finally our Jumbo Rotated, it must have been a very high T/o weight, would've been spectacular to watch those wings flex!!!!

As we climbed out of Bangkok, a few of the passengers began muttering to each other, and my parents commented on what a long takeoff roll we had. We levelled off and made out in the general direction of the uk. The f/a's came round with our dinner, which was chicken or beef, i chose the chicken, and only took a couple of bites. It didn't take very nice.

Not feeling too well, i made numerous trips to the bathroom and had difficulty sleeping, i don't think i have ever felt this bad on a flight before. The 11 hours passed that quickly, i watched on the map as we travelled over India, Russia and finally in to Europe, over Germany. After being physically ill once more, this time not making it into the bathroom Big grin, i went and spent most of the final minutes before the fasten your seatbelt signs came on sitting beside the rear doors watching the Sun rise over Western Europe, and descent over London. It was one of the most incredible things to watch.

I was finally told to sit back in my seat, and the "fasten your seatbelt sign was switched on". Descent over London continued and everybody in the cabin began to wake up. The sun peaked out over the North Sea and shone in Beams through the aircraft. An uneventful landing in LHR ensued, and we taxied back to Heathrows terminal 4.

Getting back to the UK was a relief, but i missed Australia, and singapore (not so much Bangkok, but i still had a nice time  Smile).

Comments appreciated, i think this report was more substantial!!!

Regards, Dan

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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8065 times:

I've just got back from Singapore and Bangkok aswell, and I flew Emirates I wasn't mad on Bangkok either. Bit too humid and disorganised but I quite like "culture shock" cos it doesn't happen very much anymore. Singapore is the complete opposite, a bit too organised! I like it though but a few days was more than enough to take it all in. Read my trip report if u want more info on my trip, posted a few weeks ago.
Great Trip Report, we need more like these!

Take a ride...fly across the sky
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8055 times:

ok i'll just go check, i agree about the culture shock of Bangkok, especially just walking down a street!!!

Singapore is one of my favourite places, i don't think i have to explain why!!!!

Thanks for the nice remarks!!!


EGGD (tired, no more trip reports!)

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8035 times:

oh man, i made too many grammar mistakes Big grin

Its what happens when you are looking at something else whilst writing a trip report  Big thumbs up



User currently offlineQantasAirways From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1280 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 8021 times:

Which service was better?
QF or BA?


Spirit of Australia
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13756 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 8018 times:

QF probably. He said BA stewardesses were unhappy.

Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineMegatop From Denmark, joined May 1999, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 8014 times:

I am going from Denmark to Australia with SIA in October. CPH-SIN on a A340 - 3 hours in Changi - SIN-SYD on B744.

I have been in southeast Asia 15 times, but never in Australia.

Can't wait until 7th October.

Maybe I will write a trip report aswell.


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7997 times:

Qantas Service was better, the entertainment was good on BA but that was it.



User currently offlineQantasAirways From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1280 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (14 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7966 times:

glad you enjoyed Qantas!
Hopefully you will try again, and hopefully next time the inflight entertainment system will be installed
Forgot to mention - Great trip report mate


Spirit of Australia
User currently offlineQantas744 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 246 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (14 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7946 times:

I did SYD-LHR via BKK last year on QF and it was an absolutely dreadful flight.The IFE didn't work properly and both sets of cabin crew had an attitude problem.The outbound flight with BA was the opposite-probably my all time favourite flight.
I'm assuming that I caught QF on a bad day as I am doing LHR-SYD-AKL-LHR with QF in November.I've had a number of flights with QF and it was only that flight last year where I had a problem,on the whole they are ok.

you can't buy time but you can sell your soul and the closest thing to heaven is to rock'n'roll
User currently offlineZizou From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 1536 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (14 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7923 times:

Great trip report. Really enjoyed it. So when is your next trip down under here in OZ?

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (14 years 9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7910 times:

I hope soon!

I was supposed to be coming back down at Christmas, but not everyone agreed so it might be a couple of years next  Sad  Sad  Sad

Qf744 - i had 6 great flights with them, so i guess you were just unlucky, and i think, from domestic experience, that i caught BA on a bad day. Although there is not much you can do about the seats..



User currently offlineDeltaOwnsAll From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (14 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7896 times:

EGGD- Great trip report. Sorry for the stupid question...but what was SIA like? I am going there next summer and have heard it was awesome. Thanks for any info.

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (14 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7888 times:

Singapore (i assume you mean Singapore?) was probably the best place i stayed. It was a nice temperature, and even when it rained it was still nice to walk around.

the place was very tropical, and very clean, where we stayed the pavement was marble and it was all nice. Although the shops were annoying, people nagging you to buy stuff and endless weird Malls!

It was quite an incredible place though, somewhere i want to visit again soon!



User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (14 years 9 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7888 times:


What do you mean by 'weird' malls? I'm Singaporean and I think the malls here are the 'anonymous' kind-the kind you find anywhere in the world.

yes, this place is extremely well organised-too well organised. Where else in the world do you need a license to busk?

Nice temperature? You must be kidding! The Singapore climate is hot and humid and it can't get any worse!

And did you like our form of English? Our clipped form of English, called Singlish?

Anyway I don't see how you had fun here 'cos I find it the most boring city on earth. As in, life here is so predictable.

User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (14 years 9 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7882 times:

I found Singapore a really amazing place, but 3 days was enough! I've never seen so many shopping malls, McDonalds or Starbucks' in my life!!! And the Singlish language is really funny, I understood some of it and then it goes all oreiental!! The city could do with a few more pedestrian crossings though, expecially because they insist you DON'T jaywalk!!! (Those countdowns at the crossings are a great idea though!)
Deffinatley a place worth seeing atleast once!

Take a ride...fly across the sky
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (14 years 9 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7882 times:

Oh man yeah! The countdown on those pedestrian crossings were great!

I had my best ever lemonade at Planet Hollywood at Singapore.

Also taking an island tour was great! On the traditional Chinese Junk boat Big grin

Airport is great.

I really want to visit again!



User currently offlineThe Coachman From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (14 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7867 times:

Take-off over Botany Bay in Sydney is 16R. 16L can't take 744's.

Enjoyed the report. Agree with BKK being highly dis-organised.

The Coachman

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