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EVA Air SFO-TPE-BKK-TPE In ED And Y (w/ Pics)  
User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 617 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 18329 times:

This year's travels to Taiwan are a bit different from the usual. For the past 5 years my family hasn't flown EVA (happily flying China Airlines instead; I never liked EVA much.... at all). But EVA was offering a tour/fare package that led to a SFO-TPE-BKK-TPE-SFO fare and 4 night stay in Thailand costing as much as a normal CI SFO-TPE-SFO ticket. So, reluctantly, I agreed for two reasons: not only would this give me a chance to see BKK (and Thailand), but I had never flown on a 777 before. Another first is flying Y on BR (We've always flown ED). But this generally is probably going to be quite critical of BR (as my loyalties clearly lie with CI).

I had a couple of pictures taken during the SFO-TPE-BKK legs, but a lot of those pictures..... have completely disappeared on me (there's a long gap between the file numbers). Everything up to before we took off from SFO is gone (I'm pretty upset about it, too; I had gotten a really awesome picture somewhere near Japan that I don't know if I'll ever get to snap again). Oh well. Here goes.

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BR0027
Class: Evergreen Deluxe
Reg: B-16407
Estimated time: 1830-2200 (didn't keep track, never keep track)

SFO's international terminal is awesome. I loves it much. It's so spacious and modern unlike another certain west coast international terminal that looks like a worn-down warehouse. The check-in for our flight wasn't too long, but the most odd-ball thing was the check-in agent that couldn't speak a lick of Mandarin. For someone with a Chinese last name working for a Taiwan-based airline, you'd figure the person would at least be able to comprehend. Major let down already. At least we got our boarding passes through Bangkok (For some reason, the passes for the TPE-BKK sector were printed on Y paper, I'm assuming to differentiate?).

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After checking in, we headed to the food court and had delicious but overpriced bowls of Wonton Noodle Soup at Fung Lum (which we eat every time we're at SFO without fail). My brother, being the oddball of the family, had chicken strips and cheese fries from Lori's instead.

Security wasn't too much of a hassle, we were cleared pretty fast.

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I haven't been in the G concourse for 5 years, and it's just like a mirror version of the A concourse. Except looking out the window on the right side makes it rather clear which airline hubs here.

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When will they finish repainting?

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UA's F concourse.

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Something I've never seen before.

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Same goes for this one.

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Our plane.

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There was a nice mural at the waiting area; I never really noticed those before.

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Is this normal? I usually depart at night, so I usually don't notice stuff like this, either.

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A soon-to-be-extinct specimens!

Boarding was the usual chaos. The announcer starts talking and people just stand up like magic backfiring horribly.

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The cabin.


The seat. So familiar to me. Although back when we flew BR, we usually flew bulkhead since my brother was still a wee little kid.


The legroom (I'm 5'3.5"; any legroom circumstance is spacious for me).


The ancient PTV. It was set to the airshow the whole time. Nice to know where we are, especially when the selection of movies didn't interest me; I'm used to relying on my iPod for IFE anyway.

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Some shots as we taxi by.


The soon-to-be-replaced control tower.

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VX's future home. Are those blocks on the ground for the jetways?

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VX, another airline I've taken a liking to.

And so here's where the pictures end for now. The take-off was pretty nondescript. BR still gives out amenity bags in ED, it seems. But the bags seem to have shrunken in half, as have the contents since there's no more razor and shaving cream. But most guys carry their own shaving items nowadays anyway, right?

The service is where things really have changed. I'm pretty sure CI's had the same downgrade in service, though. No more hot towel and pre-meal drink/snack. Right after takeoff, the FAs just whipped out the meal cards and made their rounds. The part where CI get the advantage, though, is at least they display the menu on the overheads (Save the trees, people). It's all a mystery on BR until the FA stops by. The choices were Curry Shrimp with Rice and some sort of pasta-ish noodle thing. Sides were bread, a fruit selection, Brussels cookies, and a cucumber salad thing with smoked salmon and something else that I forgot. I had the shrimp, my brother had the pasta thing, and I don't know what my parents got. It wasn't too bad of a meal. The seafood pasta dish I had on CI last spring is the gold standard for "horrible airplane food"; the Curry Shrimp was no where near as atrocious. At least I could swallow it.

I slept after the meal for about 4 hours; I usually can sleep 5-6 hours. Our flight was the evening departure; I do prefer the midnight departure instead, since not only can I get more sleep during the flight, but I can also not get any jet lag. I had heard that BR and CI had eliminated instant noodles in Y, but apparently ED is downgraded to Y status not only during boarding but also when it comes to snackage. Choco Pies? No thanks. The FA was pretty gracious about it, too, explaining that all instant noodles were terminated as of April 15th and that I am welcome to bring my own in the future (The former was more than I needed to know, but the latter was great information).

And with that, I returned to my seat. The FAs made constant drink rounds (but orange juice gets pretty boring after a while).

After watching anime on my iPod for a while, I glanced out the window somewhere near Japan and saw an awesome sight. A pitch-dark sea and sky with the glowing sunset bisecting the window. Too bad the picture disappeared somehow.

Breakfast came around later. For some odd reason, we had a hot towel service before breakfast. Makes more sense if it occurred before dinner after boarding. Choice was Congee or Scrambled Eggs with Canadian Bacon and Hash Browns. The Congee was horrible, almost as bad as the seafood pasta catastrophe. I tried some of my brother's eggs, and that rivaled the seafood pasta. I spat that thing out faster than sand blown into my mouth by random. And quickly I was reminded of BR catering nightmares.

We landed in TPE without a hitch and taxied to C6. T2 is indeed quite sterile (It lacks that SMELL, too. That foul, fungal stench that I love so dearly). But at least it looks clean and completed (construction-wise). From there, we went through a special security checkpoint and found ourselves on the departure level where we had 15 minutes to go to gate C4 for our flight to BKK. Not like it was a treacherously long walk.

BR0075
Class: Evergreen Deluxe
Reg: No reg (like hell I can see the reg in the dark like that).
Estimated time: 2300-0100

The waiting area was rather empty, and boarding lacked the chaos that I had come to expect. The flight load was pretty light, too.

The couple in front of us was put at an exit row and were complaining that they weren't informed that they would have to learn the procedures for emergency situations (which honestly aren't even that difficult to handle). And so they argued with the lead pursuer and got changed to a different seat with no emergency instructions to be learned.

The flight was uneventful. We had a dinner service. I don't remember what the choices were, but there was this weird seafood jelly thing that freaked me out. I promptly fell asleep until we landed in BKK.

And then we entered the cement dungeon of doom. Unacceptable for such a grandiose airport that the corridors are just... cement. Plain cement. It was so horrible, I couldn't believe this airport is considered better than TPE.

The immigration officer had a sign behind him that said "Welcome to the Land of Smiles". Those signs are more effective when the immigrations officer actually smiles.

Our baggage took a LONG time to come out. And with that, our journey to Thailand ended.


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User currently offlineMeta From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18211 times:

Nice TR.

Quoting Anonms (Thread starter):
Is this normal? I usually depart at night, so I usually don't notice stuff like this, either.

The dirt or the dented in part? Well it doesn't matter, both are normal.


User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 18196 times:

AHHHHH SLOW INTERNET = TPE-BKK LEG WILL BE POSTED TOMORROW~

Quoting Meta (Reply 1):
The dirt or the dented in part? Well it doesn't matter, both are normal.

Oh. Ok.



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User currently offlineAlexchao From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 688 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17714 times:

Nice TR. Interested to hear if you experienced EVA's new cabins on BR 75.

User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 17452 times:

So after a few days in Thailand (I would post pictures, but most of the pictures are for Facebook for prank-tagging; stuff like Thailand's "special ladies of certain mystery" and various bulk-sized animals), we were sent back to BKK (the actual name of I will fail at spelling and I'm far too lazy to find somewhere to copy/paste from).

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It looks far less dungeon-like on the outside.

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The departures area doesn't look so horrible. No cement corridors of depression.

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The check-in area. The agents here didn't seem like they could speak Chinese, but given that not only did they not look Chinese but also did they have Thai names, I wouldn't have expected them to speak Chinese, especially since their English wasn't too shabby.

My mom had us upgraded to ED on the SFO-TPE and TPE-BKK legs, but we couldn't get the same ED fare for the return legs, so we would be flying in Y. At least we'd be on a 77W instead of a 74M (Since the rest of my family is returning to SFO before I am, they have the misfortune of 12 hours in BR's antiquated 74M Y cabin, whereas the equipment for my trip is going to be a 77W; but that's not for another 6 weeks).

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BKK's high-roller-status pre-Immigration shopping. Not.


While crossing the bridge that links the terminal building with the concourse tubes. Which is just.... an absurd design idea in my opinion.


The Mall Of Expensiveness. At least it looks pretty and less dungeon-like.

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Some of the decorations in the concourses.

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A pre-security shot of our plane.

The security lines were a horrible mess. Long, crowded lines. Some official shoved us forn a staircase to a different security checkpoint that was completely empty (Since it was on the same floor as the lounges, I would assume it's for premium passenger usage). And so security quickly transformed from a nightmare to a refreshing spring breeze.

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I think BKK is one of the worst-designed airports. Ever. I can understand wanting to make the terminal unique, but the idea of encasing normal-shaped blocky structures within a tube just looks horribly moronic from the inside.

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Our ride. Nothing can beat the sheer beauty of the 747. To me, the 747 will always be the queen of the skies. So here's to hoping CI gets themselves some 748s.

BR0075
Class: Economy
Registration: B-16708
Approximate times: 1630-2100

Boarding was a rather dull. None of that mad rush that you'd expect. But then again, no one could even comprehend the announcements.

Since we were boarding through the 2nd door, we would be passing through part of the Premium Laurel and the Elite cabins.

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BR's new C seat. In an era of true lie-flats, BR's revolutionary new business seat is an angled lie-flat? Considering they try to market their C class as an F seat at C fares (not as actively so now than they used to with Super Business Class), I think BR falls short by quite a bit here. Besides, the PTV screens could be so much larger.

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BR's new ED seat. Again, BR really needs to work on their marketing here again; in the days of Evergreen Deluxe, they tried to pass it off as C seats at near Y fares. But it's not quite a C seat. I heard the new ED seats are less comfortable than the old ones; not like I'll ever get to find out.

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The Y cabin. Just to note, I really don't like the color green. It was like the walk of pain amidst a sea of green fabric. The pain.


The Y seat. Looks pretty..... normal. I like the current generic Recaro seat more, though.

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Legroom shot (Remember, folks, I'm short). The big disappointment here is the lack of a footrest. CI's Y seats have footrests. Why can't BR put in footrests?

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The PTV with AVOD. Really useful during short non-nighttime hops like this flight where sleeping is rather pointless.

The flight was rather... normal. We took off, and the FAs began the meal service. Choices were Chicken with Pasta Noodles in Olive Oil or Mystery Pork With Rice and Vegetables. Sides were a fruit dish, bread, and a pudding/custard thing of nondescript flavor. I went for the Chicken. The pasta was way too oily and it just didn't taste good. It's quite a big difference between the Y meal and the ED meal in terms of portions. *sigh*

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My Chicken with Pasta.

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My mom's Random Pork and Rice with Vegetables thing.

To keep myself occupied, I watched a Chinese-language flick of which I have forgotten the name of (no clue if it was Chinese or Taiwanese, but since it's BR, I'll assume the latter) about an effeminate guy and a tomboy trying to learn to be more manly and girly (respectively) and them going out in the end. After that, I watched probably about half of a Japanese flick called "Sky of Love". One of the romantic tear-jerkers. And I need to find a way to finish watching it.

The weird part about our flight was that there were 2 Thai flight attendants that they were both assigned to my aisle (you think they'd put them in separate aisle). Service was nondescript.

We landed, and we deplaned. Like normal.

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The ED seat from behind. You'd think they'd have larger PTVs than Y.

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TPE T2's sterile arrival corridor. I'll take this over BKK's cement dungeon anyday.

So this concludes my TR for now. I'll put up another TR of my TPE-SFO leg after I fly on that leg in about 6 weeks. I still prefer CI over BR anyway.



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User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 938 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 17397 times:

Wow, you weren't kidding when you said that your report would likely be critical of BR. It seems like you went in with a fixed attitude against them and pretty much everything fulfilled your (self-fulfilling) expectations.

That reminds me, I need to get my BR trip report from last fall written and posted, if for no other reason than to provide a different perspective on the same route.

Still, it is a good trip report in terms of pictures and descriptiveness. Thanks.



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User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 17350 times:



Quoting Christao17 (Reply 5):
It seems like you went in with a fixed attitude against them and pretty much everything fulfilled your (self-fulfilling) expectations.

Eh, it really wasn't that terrible. It just wasn't particularly outstanding. I had heard people say that BR had improved a lot from the years past, and improved BR has, but I figured it'd be leaps and bounds, not incremental.

At least my mom didn't write this TR. She was far more critical of our flights and she had more lenient expectations than I did.



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User currently offlineLHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 655 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17222 times:



Quoting Anonms (Thread starter):
Why can't BR put in footrests?

my 77W trip on BR from TPE-BKK-LAX had legrests in Y...but forgot to mention that in my EVA TR (which you read  Wink )


Thanks for the pics - I have to disagree with your airport opinions, though!

For me TPE is a very 80s-style box with very few windows for natural light and is pretty much simple, functional concourses that lack any sense of design or innovation (except for the Hello Kitty Gate!).

BKK is an architectural delight - even if some of the design elements are less successfully executed than others.

There's no mistaking BKK for what and where it is - however, TPE felt like TBIT at LAX before its makeover...



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User currently offlineCoolfish1103 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 403 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 17058 times:

My opinion would be that BKK just looks like a maze and TPE is just an efficient airport for passengers to leave without going through long walks or miserable dungeons. I would not say TPE is like LAX... LAX is far worse where you see almost no windows and the long lines you have to go through in immigration, baggages, and customs (where you do not get it at TPE).

I agree with that the new Elite seats are far from comfortable when you compare it to Evergreen Deluxe. Meal wise, I find both BR and CI are about the same in terms of quantity and quality. EVA once advertised Premium Laurel will get the First Class service... they never really did about the seats except it being 2-"2"-2. It would be a joke if they did that... it's not even close to a suite and is not full flat.

I don't see a real need to make the TV any bigger in Elite in terms of EVA... it's better for them to keep material and hardware costs to the minimum... so it's better that they use the same size. In addition, Elite was advertised for better legroom and seat width... nothing else mentioned (so there's really no need to go for Elite unless you are on long haul).

Footrests are always a great addition.


User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 938 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 16990 times:



Quoting Anonms (Reply 6):
At least my mom didn't write this TR. She was far more critical of our flights

That's a fascinating idea - reviews of the same trip by different members of the family.

Quoting Coolfish1103 (Reply 8):
they never really did about the seats except it being 2-"2"-2

The 2x2x2 seating in business is quite a bit better than many competitors which have 2x3x2. Given the price difference, I find their product to be quite a good value.



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User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 16824 times:



Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 7):
my 77W trip on BR from TPE-BKK-LAX had legrests in Y...but forgot to mention that in my EVA TR (which you read   )

Haha, that be a 747 lol (all we get at SFO from BR are 74Ms with the ancient seats and, sometimes, 77Ws). I think BR's 332 seats have legrests (the 747 seats look to be the same as the 332 seats).



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User currently offlineShilla From Germany, joined May 2002, 191 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 16771 times:



Quote:
I think BKK is one of the worst-designed airports. Ever. I can understand wanting to make the terminal unique, but the idea of encasing normal-shaped blocky structures within a tube just looks horribly moronic from the inside.

When I used Don Muang in the past, I always wished for a new, sparkling and less crowded airport. Suvarnabhumi is not what I expected it to be. The architecture may be unique and stylish in some parts, but the rest is simply appaling. The arrivals area is like a big dark factory, air-con is very weak and in some unused parts of the departure area it smelled like sulfur (don´t know what that was, but it was really bad).

Just compare it to HKG.....ah, better not !


User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 16700 times:
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Thanks god you are not my son.You are very difficult to please.Now if we take all the i don't like,i hate,etc... we have a nice report somewhere there.


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User currently offlineShilla From Germany, joined May 2002, 191 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 16615 times:



Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 12):
You are very difficult to please

Not really. I just wanted to describe my experience with the new airport. Seems I´m not the only one who doesn´t share the hype.

And that has absolutely nothing to do with this nice trip report....

Cheers !


User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 16486 times:



Quoting Shilla (Reply 13):
Not really. I just wanted to describe my experience with the new airport. Seems I´m not the only one who doesn´t share the hype.

Methinks SOBH51 was referring to me, lol. I'm not difficult to please, except when it comes to an airline that, in the past, had atrocious service and that I heard had improved leaps and bounds since then.



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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 16382 times:
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Quoting Shilla (Reply 13):
Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 12):
You are very difficult to please

Not really. I just wanted to describe my experience with the new airport. Seems I´m not the only one who doesn´t share the hype.



Quoting Anonms (Reply 14):
Methinks SOBH51 was referring to me, lol

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User currently offlineCoolfish1103 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 403 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16315 times:

Here's what I want to give...

I don't think he is very difficult to please, it's just general comparison that he has when he takes EVA Airways and China Airlines. It's not like he is comparing the two when he did not take flights on one of the airlines. Everyone has different opinions about the airlines because the specific flights they take may be extremely horrible or exceptionally great. If you want me to choose between EVA and CAL Economy, I will choose CAL any day as long as China Airlines serve that route not on a 74A/738.

CAL offers almost the same economy experience with cheaper price (except certain routes with no PTV), which is a good deal. The only reason people will take EVA is probably Premium Laurel for the better quality or Elite/Evergreen Deluxe if they have the money to spare for few extra inches, and for the safety record (which I believe one will die when that's destined). For most people who are not that rich, we often take what seems to be the best deal. It's not like we are comparing EVA to AA/DL/NW/UA... in this case I will take EVA any day if they serve the routes (which is sad that no airlines really can for US domestic).

[Edited 2008-07-01 00:39:45]

User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 16166 times:



Quoting Coolfish1103 (Reply 16):
If you want me to choose between EVA and CAL Economy, I will choose CAL any day as long as China Airlines serve that route not on a 74A/738.

Well, in the case of SFO, some BR flights still use 74M, which I'd say has worse Y seats than CI's 74A.



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User currently offlineChiawei From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 942 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 16056 times:

I fly out of SFO to TPE at least 6 times a year. (usually on EVA)

I really don't think EVA service is that bad when compare to CI. I actually think CI's service is really selective at times (depends on passenger type). If you are old or vietnamnese, CI's attendant really does not like to serve.

EVA's service is not that bad as you and coolfish have made out to be. In fact, i think the service is on par with CI.

The economy seat on the EVA 74M are old and not comfortable. But EVA has been retrofitting some of the 747. SFO has now switched to majority 77W flight. I actually like the EVA 77W economy seat over the old CI seat.

For the extra money, I would rather pay to arrive safely.

A lot of big name hi-tech company actually ban the use of CI (my company bans CI) due to poor safety record.

I just think that this post is biased from the start and is picking to suit one's opinion.


User currently offlineCoolfish1103 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 403 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15924 times:

Quoting Chiawei (Reply 18):
I fly out of SFO to TPE at least 6 times a year. (usually on EVA)

I really don't think EVA service is that bad when compare to CI. I actually think CI's service is really selective at times (depends on passenger type). If you are old or vietnamnese, CI's attendant really does not like to serve.

EVA's service is not that bad as you and coolfish have made out to be. In fact, i think the service is on par with CI.

What did I make in this thread? Please enlighten me.

I think I "try" to be unbiased when I comment about the two airlines because I know there will be people who find offensive when I make my comments on the "services" EVA present. However, where did I write in this thread that gave you the idea of EVA is "bad"? I even said the reason I take CAL is because CAL is "cheaper," so why would I want to take EVA? Simply because of the safety record? I already said if I am going to die, I will... so that's not a problem for me. Furthermore, there are just so many things about the airlines that never get talked out because nothing severe happened, so does the safety record really show what it's suppose to show? I do not know!

I am sorry I may sound cheap in this thread, but people these days do take what's best offered when everything is compared, so when CAL and EVA is about the same in almost everything (I still think CAL's service is a bit better, but I see no point in elaborating this cause it will just get into an argument) in Economy Class full mileage fare, why would I take EVA and pay about USD50 to USD200 more? ...and that does not even count how hard it is to redeem mileage upgrades and/or award tickets on future flights, and on top of the deep cut redeem requirements they introduced this year.

Regarding the Vietnamese part, I have seen it happen before. I think it's probably a language barrier that caused the two to have problems to communicate, so it appears like the FA does not want to serve (to get away). CAL should hire a FA that speaks Vietnamese on board to get it resolved. About old passengers, never experienced that.

[Edited 2008-07-02 07:33:20]

User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 15826 times:



Quoting Chiawei (Reply 18):
I really don't think EVA service is that bad when compare to CI. I actually think CI's service is really selective at times (depends on passenger type). If you are old or vietnamnese, CI's attendant really does not like to serve.

Well, I saw BR attendants being selective in service towards some passengers during my flight. It happens anywhere anytime.

Quoting Chiawei (Reply 18):
EVA's service is not that bad as you and coolfish have made out to be. In fact, i think the service is on par with CI.

Well, it isn't terrible, but I honestly wouldn't consider it to be on par with CI. Many people I've talked to agree with me on this.

Quoting Chiawei (Reply 18):
For the extra money, I would rather pay to arrive safely.
A lot of big name hi-tech company actually ban the use of CI (my company bans CI) due to poor safety record.

And you say I'm biased and picking to suit my opinion?

Quoting Chiawei (Reply 18):
I just think that this post is biased from the start and is picking to suit one's opinion.

I think I already said that I already have a bias against BR. What reasons would I have to favor an airline that gave me poor service in the past?



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