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Finally Catching The A330 & Standby On Lufthansa  
User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 25736 times:

Hi, dear readers,

Time to write another report and bring it online here. I lately enjoyed some inner-German flights (a multi-segment report on LH is already online), and now it was time for me to do ‘something new’.

About 2 months before the actual flights, I noticed an interesting aircraft scheduled on a Sunday operation between DUS and MUC. It was saying type 330, AB flight, for the summer period only, it seems. So, I took my shift schedule from work, looked up my rare free Sundays, and checked the fares.

All-in for this flight, EUR 67,00. Not bad, considering a new aircraft type for my log.
After booking this leg, I secured transportation by the Dutch railways from my hometown to Dusseldorf Flughafen (Airport). I noticed an interesting offer for a non-refundable/non-changeable fare in First Class, on the ICE International high-speed train. First part of the journey was on a Dutch domestic intercity service with a change to the ICE at Utrecht Central Station. So, also this fare was purchased  Cool .

Now, I still had to get back home, from MUC…, something different. Trains take long, single fares are high. So I really needed to take advantage of my airline staff benefits, and called my ticketing office to issue a single MUC-AMS, valid on KL or LH. I won’t mention the fare, but it was not much  Silly

Some weeks before my flights, I checked the schedules again, and noticed a downgrade of equipment for my flight to ‘320’ and later to ‘EQV’. I was a bit disappointed by now. Times got better 2 weeks later, when aircraft type mentioned ‘332’ now. We’ll see!

Finally, the day came to travel.

Sunday, June 15, 2008

I took the local train to Schiphol (AMS) Airport, changed to the intercity service towards Utrecht. Nice red leather seats in First Class. Whole carriage for my own  Wink So, travelling was convenient on this early morning. I changed at Utrecht, onto ICE International trainservice # 105. Departure was on schedule. I took my reserved single window seat (window/aisle). These seats have good legroom, recline is reasonable, a TV screen featuring 2 channels, and music (when you use headphones, from the armrest). Bar service take orders from your seat, and deliver also to your seat.
The ride was comfortable, but the train was busy as always. Many travellers, lot of talking etc. I decided not to take pictures, as I didn’t want to disturb others.


1st Class section in Dutch domestic Intercity service


At Duisburg Hbf, I changed to a regional service for DUS airport. All on time, and arrival was about 10 minutes later.

I went to the check-in area first, used the SSCI machine and selected out of many free seats. At least no problem to secure a window seat. My TopBonus number was printed on the boarding pass, although you won’t earn much points anymore nowadays on AB. It’s hard to obtain some status and to get free flights together (I recently already lost my Silver status  Sad ).

After check-in, I took the Skytrain back to the trainstation, where the observation deck is located. I bought a ticket (fee: EUR 2.20), and enjoyed a few hours on the roof, with some interesting traffic as well, and some sunshine!


SkyTrain running between terminal and railway station at Dusseldorf Airport



Time came to fly, I took that same Skytrain back to the terminal, went through security, which was a real breeze at DUS. Terminal seems a bit outdated, not much shops around. Also lots of construction works going on at the various gates. Maybe they will change the building into a more modern/convenient one. Time will tell, I think.

The boarding gate, B55, was still not occupied, so I took my seat. After a while, some staff showed up, and finally the long awaited Airbus A330 showed up, following the ‘follew-me’ car. I was surprised, and also happy, to see that my aircraft was in full ‘new’ LTU colourscheme. I think it’s the only example flying as such, before it will be repainted in the AB colours.


’My’ A330-200 arriving from…. somewhere far away!


I expected boarding soon, and on-time, as the aircraft arrived early enough. The servicing outside seemed ready, but 2 male agents at the gate were having more fun together, then giving information to the passengers. No info at all, and we were passing the scheduled departure time. I was getting a bit upset, as I’m airline staff myself, I know how to treat passengers, but of course, AB is not one of the worlds leading airlines… So, I convinced myself to stay calm and to wait, patiently.

Finally, boarding was starting from 14:25hrs, using a single fingergate for this widebody aircraft.

DUS-MUC
Flight No.: AB6033 Date: 15JUN08
STD: 1410 ATD: 1455
STA: 1525 ATA: 1603
A/C: Airbus A330-200 Reg No.: D-ALPD
Seat: 46A – Economy Class

My 1st ride on an Airbus 330, so also the first on this machine. This made my day  Silly.


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I took my seat. Made of blue fabric material. Legroom: very, very poor!
Also no personal IFE system on this long range Airbus. Only screens fitted throughout the cabin. On the ground, the airmap was showing, once in the air, the system was switched off completely and nothing was shown for the entire remaining of the flight.
Total rows count until 50, basically in a 2-4-2 seating. From row 47~50 it’s in 2-3-2 layout.
The seatpocket offered me; 1 safety card (Air Berlin Group), 1 disposal bag, 1 inflight magazine.


Not much legroom on the Air Berlin A330’s



Cabin view of D-ALPD, full-house!


Load on this flight: near 100%. I was really surprised to see so many people on a standard domestic service to MUC, on a midday Sunday flight. Unbelievable. This flight also didn’t proceed to another longhaul destination, and terminated at MUC.


Boardig finished in 20 minutes. After a call mentioning boarding completed, the crew cross-checked doors, and a safety video started on the screens. It was in German and English language. After this video the cabin was checked and we got pushback.

Taxiing was rather long, as we had to make a longer ride due to construction works going on at the main taxiway. Finally we turned onto runway 23L for our departure;



Once airborne, I noticed a lot of turbulence around the area. Although it seemed sunny and a bright day, higher in the air, the airflow was different. Good views on Dusseldorf City and Rhine River on my left, and some beautiful cloud formations.

Views on the city of Dusseldorf and river Rhine



Clouds everywhere around…


Once the seatbelt sign switched off, crew started the distribution of a single drink service. I got a coke (no can, just a plastic cup), and a small complimentary bag of crisps. The other option where cookies with strawberry flavour. As my female neighbour was reading a book, I decided to do my ‘thing’ as well, and enjoyed the flight by looking out of my window, and enjoying the impressive ‘LTU’ branded winglet  Smile.


’Meal service’ on this domestic flight


Not long the service, a moment for the captain. Little information from the flightdeck. Cruising altitude was at 31,000 ft. and he came back on the departure delay, which was likely be caused by routine maintenance work after the previous (longhaul) flight. He apologized for it, and wished us a nice day.


Inflight View


Meanwhile the rubbish was collected again, and the mightly A330 approached Munich closer. It was more cloudy in this Southern part of Germany. Visible was good, but views outside not the best around. Landing was done on runway 26R, and I’ve to mention that it was a very smooth touchdown!


Blockin was roughly 40 minutes behind schedule now. I did not get the arrival gate number, since I decided to hurry for my connection flight trial. I had to go to the other terminal…, which was a new experience for me as well at MUC.

Since I travelled on a sublo ticket, I wouldn’t take the risk to rely on the later flights only. Therefore I was happy to see stairs to groundlevel which directed to a terminal shuttle bus, running on airside. When I arrived in the empty area (gate A31), I read the sign and saw (only) 4 runs per hour. Not much, but good to see my bus arrival in 2 minutes after I got there  Smile. I was the only passenger now using this bus, and the driver took me on airside without further questioning or boarding card check. I enjoyed this short ride at MUC, until I was dropped again at a bus arrival gate at the other terminal.


Information at MUC gate A31 (transfer bus between terminals)


I checked the earliest departure (LH) for AMS, and saw a 16:55hrs flight at gate G23. I quickly went there, wearing my airline ID, and greeted the very friendly male LH ground agent. I handing my ticket, he looked up my listing, and he informed me about the low load on this flight. Good for me. I was able to choose either row 19, or row 4, both with window, since I requested a window seat.
I decided to take seat 4A. I was issued my boarding pass, and he wished me a good flight. I got myself a free coffee from the LH coffeecorner. Good service!
Then, also boarding was announced soon. I couldn’t finish my coffee completely this time, no problem.


I took this flight when I confirmed my seats on LH4700 MUC-AMS


Bus service from gate to aircraft. Interesting tour airside, passing a lot of parked A319/320’s and regional jets (mainly Augsburg Airways). We arrived at the sole Bombardier CRJ-700 parked on this apron. ( all other machines were CRJ200/Dash 8-300/400 and ATR 42). This CRJ-700 would mean another new entry to my log. First time on this aircraft type, and of course also a new registration Big grin

MUC-AMS
Flight No.: LH4700 Date: 15JUN08
STD: 1655 ATD: 1708
STA: 1825 ATA: 1835
A/C: Bombardier CRJ-700 Reg No.: D-ACPM
Seat: 04A – Economy Class

My 1st ride on a CRJ-700, of course also the first on this machine.


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Boarding finished soon. I waited almost till the end until I entered the cabin. Greeted by a male, and friendly, crew member. He was the purser on this flight. Row 4 was immediately after the seperation curtain between Business Class and Economy. All other seats at row 4 remained empty, so I had my own ‘private’ space.
Load on this flight, 46 passengers, including 1 in Business, and 1 non-rev (that was me), when I counted correctly.


D-ACPM during boarding


We got some info from the flightdeck, mentioning about a slot time due to bad weather enroute to AMS. Doors remained open for another 10 minutes or so. When they closed, start-up was done also.

Cabin was fitted with the usual grey leather LH seats. Legroom very good, in my opinion. Windows were clean as well.


Seats on a LH CRJ-700 aircraft


We taxied towards runway 26R for takeoff, following 2 larger CRJ-900 examples. And were were followed by an A320. After a few minutes waiting it was our turn to choose the skies;


Bigger sister next to us awaiting her ‘cleared for takeoff’




I found the CRJ-700 very powerful in takeoff. And at row 4, engine noise was low, and pretty comfortable to experience this aircraft. Also during the flight itself, cabin environment was very nice, in my opinion.


Simultaneous take-off at MUC, LH Airbus 319 visible in the background


The crew, being 2 members (the male purser, and a female attendant) started the service not long after takeoff. Choice was a sandwich (salami or cheese), which came together with the usual muesli-bar. My drink was a 0,2l glass bottle of Warsteiner beer, nicely chilled when served  Wink.
I was offered another drink, but I declined.


Mealservice on LH4700 MUC-AMS


During the rest of the calm flight, I watched outside, or played on my PSP. So, time went fast, and we got a nice approach from the North-East part of The Netherlands into AMS. I passed my place of birth and other nice sceneries.


Calm flight, beautiful views!



Approaching over The Netherlands (Province of Flevoland)



Getting closer to AMS…, and last picture in this report  Wink


Landing was performed on runway 36R, touchdown at 18:30hrs. Nice runway for a change (at least for me). Short ride to the terminal building, parking at B11. Disembarking by the aircraft stairs. Short walk on airside, upstairs into the fingergate, and further inside the terminal building.


So, a fun day of flying came to an end. I had a comfortable train experience again, good spotting opportunities at DUS, first time catch on the Airbus A330 (my highlight for the day), but I wasn’t happy with the AB performance on several points (ground staff / delay / lack of information / seatpitch).
My standby adventure on LH turned out well. Another new type for my logbook, the CR7. Helpful and good staff at MUC, as well in the cabin (LH Regional). I can’t complain of course but maybe the sandwich is a bit small for a MUC-AMS sector. Good seats, comfortable aircraft.

Thank you for reading and your interest. I would be happy to reply on your feedback (please do not refrain from leaving a message behind)  Wink

Cheers,
Eric  wave 


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User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 25633 times:

Hmmm...Cool TR!

I would love to fly the A330 in the future lol. LH gives free coffee!! Cool  Smile



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 25588 times:

Hi Mark
thanks for your reply!

Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 1):
LH gives free coffee!! Cool

And beer  drunk  LOL! btw, I hope you'll have a good trip on UA to AMS in 2 weeks  Wink Can we expect your review online here?

Cheers,
Eric



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5154 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 25460 times:

Hi, Eric,

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
My 1st ride on an Airbus 330, so also the first on this machine. This made my day



Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
My 1st ride on a CRJ-700, of course also the first on this machine.

Congrats, thats what I call a succesfull trip
 Smile

When I remember that you invited me to this tour and when I further remember how I spend that day, ok, flying around and experience something new sounds much better.

Sometimes AB is a bit, let me say, non-professional, not really what we want from the second largest airline here in Germany.

Thanx for posting and best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: Shopping and sun med style!.
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26909 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 25452 times:

Hi Eric ,
I didnt even know that the A330 was used for German domestic flights by AB !! Nice to see . I flew LTU once from FRA-VRA and the seat pitch was very tight.

Nice photos and report.

Philip


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 25421 times:

Markus, Philip, thank you for the replies!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
When I remember that you invited me to this tour and when I further remember how I spend that day, ok, flying around and experience something new sounds much better.

Of course you made the wrong choice  Wink But sometimes other things have priority...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Sometimes AB is a bit, let me say, non-professional, not really what we want from the second largest airline here in Germany.

With the current market situation (and their own situation), AB should treat their passengers in the way they promise. It's a full-service low cost airline. At least some information on the ground would be welcome! LH will do this flight for the same fare, so maybe I'll give LH another try next time... I've flown the A330 now anyway Big grin

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
I didnt even know that the A330 was used for German domestic flights by AB !! Nice to see .

Same surprise for me. I checked the schedule DUS-MUC at my works reservation system. In a short period (Jun-Aug IIRC) the A330 was scheduled on the Sunday flight only. That was for sure the main reason to secure this flight.

Cheers,
Eric



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8524 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 25208 times:
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Hi Eric,

Nice report and a good day too, adding the 332 & CR7 to the flown list, congrats, always nice to add new types.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
Some weeks before my flights, I checked the schedules again, and noticed a downgrade of equipment for my flight to ‘320’ and later to ‘EQV’. I was a bit disappointed by now

- Yikes, I'd be getting worried about that so can imagine how you would have felt.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
Load on this flight: near 100%. I was really surprised to see so many people on a standard domestic service to MUC, on a midday Sunday flight. Unbelievable. This flight also didn’t proceed to another longhaul destination, and terminated at MUC.

- Simply amazing!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
And at row 4, engine noise was low

- Try the last row, some what louder...............

Regards

Mark



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User currently onlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2306 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 25154 times:

Great TR!

How did you like the "flying pencil" aka CRJ-700?!

I love the pictures too! and btw

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
last picture in this report Wink

seeing that was sad as those were some pretty cool pics!



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 24864 times:

Hi Guys, thanks for your replies so far!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
adding the 332 & CR7 to the flown list, congrats, always nice to add new types.

The main thing to do this trip was the 332, as standby not sure for my score on the MUC-AMS sector (either CR7, CR9, AR8, F100 or B733), but finally it went all without trouble and got the CR7, which was also new for me  Wink

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
Try the last row, some what louder...............

Then I should have chosen row 19?! Hmm,... I like these machines upfront. Maybe next time to give it a try!

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 7):
How did you like the "flying pencil" aka CRJ-700?!

Nice aircraft to be on, especially when on the forward part, very enjoyable ride to be honest!
Good to hear that you liked the pics. Stay tuned. Another report is coming next week  Smile

Rgds
Eric



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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1680 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 24720 times:

Hi Eric,

2 new registrations, 2 new types. Sounds like a succesfull trip this time!
I didn't know AB operated 330's on domestic sectors, very nice for us enthousiasts though!

How long did it take you on the AMS-DUS sector by ICE?
Me and Sander are planning to go to DUS sometime soon, but are not sure about our way of travel  Smile

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
Not much legroom on the Air Berlin A330’s

Even for such a short flight, this is just not enough. Can you imagine flying DUS-BKK with such legroom.....OMG  Sad

Also you seem to be happy again with my old love LH  Smile
Great you catched the CR7 now, also a type still missing in my log.
From CR1 untill 321 I had them all with LH, only miss the props and CR7  Sad
Must secure this one soon!

Thanks for sharing Eric!
Groetjes,
Joost ( D-ALCE )



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User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1202 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 24700 times:

Hola Eric!

Lots of fun for a working day! I really enjoy these TRs, when the rest of us are at work and some of you take the opportunity to go around flying Europe.... well done.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
It was saying type 330, AB flight, for the summer period only, it seems.

I guess it has to do with their long-haul schedule for the summer and re-positioning of the planes. Anyway, good opportunity for you!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
My 1st ride on a CRJ-700, of course also the first on this machine.

I absolutely love this machine. I flew it TXL-ZRH last year and since I was sitting at 1A it was like flying my own personal jet.

Salut,

Roger



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 24451 times:

Joost, Roger, thank you for reading and replying  Wink

Quoting DALCE (Reply 9):
I didn't know AB operated 330's on domestic sectors,

I think Roger got the answer! >>

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 10):
guess it has to do with their long-haul schedule for the summer and re-positioning of the planes.

The ICE took me in about 2 hours, from Utrecht. I had to travel to Utrecht by other means.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 9):
Even for such a short flight, this is just not enough. Can you imagine flying DUS-BKK with such legroom

You're so right here. I thought maybe taking AB for my visit to the US later this year, but they won't see mee again, at least not on a longhaul flight  Wink

Quoting DALCE (Reply 9):
From CR1 untill 321 I had them all with LH, only miss the props and CR7
Must secure this one soon!

That sounds like another MUC trip then for you. The CR7's are flown throughout the day next the the CR9's (which I still have to catch).

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 10):
I absolutely love this machine. I flew it TXL-ZRH last year and since I was sitting at 1A it was like flying my own personal jet.

Very quiet, good legroom, good seats. I also created my own private jet feeling, since the other seats at row 4 were not taken. And only 1 pax in Business. So, I think that we agree completely on this point  Smile

Groeten, Salut!

Eric



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User currently offlineStefanPAD From Germany, joined Dec 2005, 282 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 23799 times:

Hi Eric!

Nice TR and great pics.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
And at row 4, engine noise was low

- Try the last row, some what louder...............



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 8):

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
Try the last row, some what louder...............

Then I should have chosen row 19?! Hmm,... I like these machines upfront. Maybe next time to give it a try!

I've been on D-ACPM in the last row (20F) on my FRA-VNO flight. It's louder than in the front, but in my opinion it was ok.

Looking forward to your next TR next week.

Groeten,
Stefan


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 23735 times:

Hi Stefan,

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 12):
I've been on D-ACPM in the last row (20F) on my FRA-VNO flight. It's louder than in the front, but in my opinion it was ok.

That's a coincidence isn't it  Wink Ok, when you say so, then the CR7 is for sure a comfortable jet to be on, since to other planes with engines at the back are quite noisy at last rows.
I'll try it next time!

Gruß
Eric



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User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 23449 times:

Hey Eric!

What a nice trip report. It's great to have an opportunity to fly the A330 on such a short route compared to the CRJ you took to AMS back!

Great pictures as always and a great read!

Cheers

Alonso



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 23412 times:

Hi Alonso! Nice to hear from you again!
Back in town after your AA experience  Wink

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 14):
It's great to have an opportunity to fly the A330 on such a short route compared to the CRJ you took to AMS back!

When I had the chance, I simply didn't hesitate to book a flight on it. btw, the AB A330 is far less comfortable then that tiny LH CR7  Wink

Thanks, Adios!
Eric



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User currently offlineInfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1451 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 23197 times:

Hello Eric,

What a great read and a well planned trip. Nice to see that it all worked out and you got "firsts" for your log. I too am surprised that they managed to fill an A330 on a domestic route, but what it must be like on long haul flights I dread to think.

But a bus transfer bewteen terminals that only runs 4 times an hour? I'm not familiar with MUC, but it seems very surprising for an airport that size.

Happy flying
Infodesk  spin 



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 23167 times:

Hi, Infodesk

Thank you for reading, and replying  Smile

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 16):
Nice to see that it all worked out and you got "firsts" for your log.

It was indeed a nice experience. It seems that 2008 is a good year for me in relation with 'new aircraft types' for my log.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 16):
but what it must be like on long haul flights I dread to think.

Basically I know enough and they won't see me on a longhaul flight, except if I'm possible to obtain a emergency row etc., then it would be just ok, I think.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 16):
But a bus transfer bewteen terminals that only runs 4 times an hour? I'm not familiar with MUC,

Same for me. Not familiar too. But I feel that this bus is not frequently used as terminal transfer. You stay in the secured area, no new security checks are done when you switch terminals. I might feel that another terminal bus is running at 'public side' ?! Maybe some of the German users know more about this.

Gruß
Eric



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User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 23001 times:

Hi Eric,

great report with lots of details and a very nice selection of pictures!

DUS-MUC is an interesting option to get the A330. By the way: my only A330-flight was also on a short-haul sector: DUB-SNN on Air Lingus (the aircraft was continuing its journey to JFK).

Interesting to read about the high load on your AB-flight. But maybe we should keep in mind the AB uses DUS as a hub, so there might have been some connecting passengers as well.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6747 posts, RR: 77
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 22479 times:

Good report about a successful trip, Eric. Finally found some time to read it! The A332 in full new LTU colors is definitely a rare one.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
I took my seat. Made of blue fabric material. Legroom: very, very poor!

...not where I would like to sit for 10 hours...

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
I got myself a free coffee from the LH coffeecorner. Good service!

Hopefully they will keep offering that after the next round of cost cuttings...

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 16):
But a bus transfer bewteen terminals that only runs 4 times an hour? I'm not familiar with MUC, but it seems very surprising for an airport that size.

A bus running every 15 minutes is not bad considering that not too many pax transfer between T1 and T2.


PH



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User currently offlineDavidkunzVIE From Austria, joined Mar 2007, 431 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 22352 times:

Nice widebody experience, eh? I wanted to catch a 767 or 777 of OS on a flight to FRA or ZRH during the Euro, but all the good fares mysteriously disappeared for June...

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
a 0,2l glass bottle of Warsteiner beer

Looks more like 0,5l!



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 22218 times:

Hi guys, thanks for your reading and replies!

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 18):
By the way: my only A330-flight was also on a short-haul sector: DUB-SNN on Air Lingus

It was that AB jumped in with this one, otherwise EI was on my list with the A330 later this year (although schedule wise the EI leg is more difficult to plan with other connecting flights for me  Wink)

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 18):
But maybe we should keep in mind the AB uses DUS as a hub, so there might have been some connecting passengers as well.

That might be, maybe onward connecting pax to MUC. And I feel that the A330 was 'positioning' into MUC for operational reasons to cover a longhaul ex MUC later that day.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
The A332 in full new LTU colors is definitely a rare one.

The only one flying as such, isn't it?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
...not where I would like to sit for 10 hours...

I also changed my plans to use AB for a DUS-JFK flight in the future Big grin

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
Hopefully they will keep offering that after the next round of cost cuttings...

This service is just that extra LH does, what all the other airlines don't do... So we'll see what happens. As long as the prices of coffee beans don't rise....  Silly

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Reply 20):
Nice widebody experience, eh? I wanted to catch a 767 or 777 of OS on a flight to FRA or ZRH during the Euro, but all the good fares mysteriously disappeared for June...

Uhhh,... I think these higher fares were a smart move by OS to earn some extra cash  Wink So, we have to wait for your widebody experience for a while. Maybe a hint; AP is now operating their new A332 on domestic flights in Italy since they don't have longhaul operations yet.  Wink

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Reply 20):
Looks more like 0,5l!

Hehe... I think that is what LH and Warsteiner also want to reach with these bottles. Just think that you get a lot, but in real it's just 1 small glass.

Cheers!
Eric  wave 



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 21852 times:

Well done, Eric: great report.

The A330 has become one of my most favorite long-haul means of transportation: I find it a very stable plane as well as low in onboard noice...another trip on the 330 has been planned again to/from SGN the end of September (no guessing which airline).

Indeed, AB's Topbonus program has changed a lot for the worse; was a Gold member before, but now also downgraded to 'normal', as the choice is very limited from AMS (only PMI and RMI)...guess, I've to burn my points soon, before it's 'nul-and-void'...a domestic stretch would indeed be nice (on the 330).

The CRJ's are, indeed, very comfortable...flew them a few times between AMS and MUC myself, and it's amazing at what flight-level they operate this 1 hour flight: in my cases, 38000 and 40000 feet !!! Fabulous 'rockets'  Smile



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4267 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21361 times:

Hi, Pieter!

Quoting MH017 (Reply 22):
Well done, Eric: great report.

Thanks!

Quoting MH017 (Reply 22):
The A330 has become one of my most favorite long-haul means of transportation: I find it a very stable plane as well as low in onboard noice...another trip on the 330 has been planned again to/from SGN the end of September (no guessing which airline).

A nice aircraft for sure, but I really need more legroom then on this AB/LTU example  Wink Let me guess; QR  Silly

Quoting MH017 (Reply 22):
The CRJ's are, indeed, very comfortable...flew them a few times between AMS and MUC myself, and it's amazing at what flight-level they operate this 1 hour flight: in my cases, 38000 and 40000 feet !!! Fabulous 'rockets'

Indeed very nice machines, and together with the LH service, you won't miss anything!

Cheers,
Eric



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