Ual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 27547 times:
Well Aloha everyone! It's been such a long time since I've done a trip report! I decided about the middle of last week that I was going to take a trip to Hawaii. I purchased my tickets on wednesday in First and I started to prepare for the flight.
I woke up about 3AM for my flight to ORD. I'm always one for late packing, so I packed up my suitcase and left for the airport at 530AM central time, to check in for my flight. It takes me about 30 min to get to OKC's Will Rogers World Airport from my house. As I approached the airport, I noticed that the garage parking was full. It was rather odd that it was full because of all my flights in and out of there, I never had a problem parking in the garage. Maybe it was because it was the 4th of July, not sure. Behind the garage, there is a large parking lot just north of the garage that was open, so I opted for that instead. They have shuttles that run through very often, so that was a decent choice. I pulled into the lot and got my parking ticket and started circling around trying to find a parking spot. I went all the way to the front and started snaking my way through the lot. About 20 min later, I was getting close to the end of the lot and there was absolutely NOTHING! So I exited the lot and after you leave the airport, you pull up to a toll booth station and pressent your ticket. I told the lady that there were no parking spots available, and she said, "Oh, yeah, we just closed that lot. You will have to park in the Shuttle West Lot." I haven't parked in the shuttle west lot in ages, but one improvement they've made on it was that they made it into covered parking, but they raised the rate by 1 dollar. Oh well...I was just glad to get somewhere to park so I could hurry up and get to the check-in counter. I took the shuttle from the Shuttle West parking and unloaded outside of the United Check in counter.
The check in area at OKC is rather modern, combining stainless steel, rock, and beautiful wood panelling, and light green plackards and signs with flatscreen flight information screens scattered about. You can see the line at the UA check in counter. Nothing too dramatic.
After Checking In, I made my way down to the security area and checked the flight informaton screen to make sure my flight was on time. UA flight 7150 to ORD.
Security was a mess, and I was standing next to a couple who experienced the same problems with parking.
Sunrise on the 4th of July, looking out toward parking
The Next few pics are of the OKC airport, so I thought I'd let them do the talking
The lounge at OKC, not really open at 6AM, unless you are realy into drinking in the morning
The Will Roger's World Airport Control Tower
Looking toward my gate at the very end
UA7150
OKC-ORD
Departure: 7:11AM
Arrival: 8:35AM
Flight 7150 departed for ORD at 7:11. I was the last one to board as I was late through security because of parking issues. But one the greatest things was I was the ONLY person in first class, (Exec Plus) on this flight! Which meant I got special attention from the flight attendant. She actually sat down with me and we talked for a short while after drinks and my breakfast box had been handed out. She was a Dulles based FA but originally from South Carolina. To quote Singapore_Air, "She was worthy of marriage and would make a good wife." I was "impressed."
The flight to Chicago was uneventful and I have a great video of take off and descent, but the high speed internet at my hote is extremely slow, so I only uploaded the ORD-HNL flights, but look for more videos in the next few days.
Here's a few shots from the OKC-ORD flight:
Pushback
Taxi for Take Off
Climbing out of OKC
Forward Galley on the CRJ-700
The emtpy first class section
Landing in chicago was a little bumpy on the descent, but smooth touchdown and we taxied to United's Regional Jet Terminal, which I believe is Terminal 1A. Correct me if I am wrong.
UA 001
ORD-HNL
Departure: 10:15AM
Arrival: 2:15 PM
Duration: 8h15m
I was looking forward to this flight because it's on my favorite aircraft, the 777. There's nothing quite like this aircraft, especially on longhaul trips. The flight left from Terminal 1B gate 16. When I arrived at the gate, I noticed that the Maui (OGG) flight was also a 777 and departing from gate 17 which was right next to our 777. The lounge area at these two gates is at the very end of the terminal and completely full and crammed with people traveling on both the Honolulu flight and the Maui flight. At the next gate over, a flight to Mexico city was boarding for departure.
My Aircraft to HNL:
It's amazing how big the 777 looks after being on a CRJ!
Looks like at that point only 248 out of the 340 seats were checked in. But we were yet 1 hour from departure.
A look at ORD's United Terminal from the end. Trust me, it's a LOOOONG way down to the end of it, even though it doesn't seem so.
Here's my boarding pass for UA001
The Massive PW engine of the 777
A comparison photo of my 777 on the left to HNL and the OGG 777 on the right. You never fully understand how tall the tips of those wings are until you see it. Honestly, they are taller than some high pitched roofed two-story homes!
The Honolulu Flight waiting lounge at B16
The aircraft gets pumped and prepped
The weather over the continental US
Well, I didn't get lucky and get an international 777, but I'm not complaining. Here we all are getting to our seats. We boarded from door 1A and I was the first one on board. The coach passengers boarded from 2A. My seat was 5J for this flight. First was completely full for the HNL flight.
The traditional glass of champagne before departure...hmmm, champagne and Starbucks....who would have thought?
Pushback
We passed by ANA 777-300ER and the UA Boeing 747-400 as we taxiied to the runway. ORD tower was great as they gave us a "UA 1, Cleared for Take Off and ALOHA!"
Here is the video of the take off:
And here are some pics from the flight to HNL:
The traditional Trader Vick's Mai Tai
Crop circles anyone?
Leaving the coast of California for Hawaii....some wildfires messing up the view of the coast.
HONOLULU INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT!!!
And I'll end here with the approach and landing video.
I have a lot to say about this trip report, but 1. I'm in the business center of my hotel and you are really only supposed to be here for 30 min, i've been here for 3 hours, and their internet is quite slow. So I will add additional pics and videos later on.
Hope you enjoy and I hope the pics tell the story for the mean time!
JpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4243 posts, RR: 29 Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 27271 times:
Nice report Phil! I'm looking forward to the rest of it and your commentary. I've flown UA 1/2 twice and then UA 3. I'm looking forward to UA 3 again in January. It was nice to see the F perspective. It's always too full up there for upgrades.
Mauiman31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 434 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 27188 times:
Wonderful report! Hope you have a great time in paradise. I don't use UA, so appreciated all the pix and detail. Got me excited -- we're heading to HNL next week on AA - DFW-HNL. Wow, UA packs in the seats in FC on their domestic 777's. The pitch looked miserable and the seats pretty old. The food was standard domestic FC -- same as we will get on AA. Nothing special. But, I'll take the 58 inch pitch and the lie-flat seats on the 767-3. Thanks again, Aloha!
UAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 27191 times:
Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2): I must say the meal service looked pretty nasty on the HNL flight, the salad looked the best part!
Actually it wasn't that bad. I don't think that the pic did it justice, but it was grilled mahihi wih some sort of sauce on it, which was actually quite good, asparagus, and some yellow rice. Of course, it's not going to be up to par with international first, but it sure beat the hell out of the Y class meals.
Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 26907 times:
Wow - I'm surprised the first class product looks that poor on a 777. There are no PTV's and the seat pitch looks so tight! At least you got a 4 or 5 course meal.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 26714 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 7): Usual 38" domestic F class same pitch same as DL, AA, or CO have on their domestic aircraft.
Sure but on a trip 7?
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
Yeah, domestic is domestic on these flights. The seat pitch isn't that bad, one only needs so much leg room. No PTV is standard on UA domestic first. The seats weren't really worn out, they are an odd color, but clean and comfy. You've got to remember that UA flies quite a few 777's on domestic runs.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 26616 times:
Quoting Evan767 (Reply 8): Quoting United1 (Reply 7):
Usual 38" domestic F class same pitch same as DL, AA, or CO have on their domestic aircraft.
Sure but on a trip 7?
UA uses 6 777s in a two class domestic configuration basically as a high capacity people mover between Hawaii and the Mainland. These aircraft never fly international (and were not intended to) and are set up with the same pitch in F/Y+/Y as an A319 or a two class 763. The 46 777s that are used internationally have a rather more spacious seating configuration in F/J.
Quoting UAL747 (Reply 9): The seats weren't really worn out, they are an odd color, but clean and comfy
Yeah the fabric on the current domestic F seats is a little weird but that is the current colors till they pick something new.
JpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4243 posts, RR: 29 Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 26600 times:
Mauiman31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 434 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 26189 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 7): Usual 38" domestic F class same pitch same as DL, AA, or CO have on their domestic aircraft.
The domestic wide bodies (763, 764, A330) that AA,NW and CO use for HI runs all have 58-60" pitch in FC/Biz, with a variation of 170 degree or lie flat. Not sure about DL or US. Yes, if you get a 757 from the coast on AA or NW -- it is standard 38-40.
RockyRacoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 938 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 25980 times:
mahalo. enjoyed the report. hopefully you'll get to depart on the reef runway.
Cmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 25932 times:
Hey great report, two queries for you. First, what is the lounge in OKC? Is it a communal airport lounge for airline lounge members/F class passengers or something else? Secondly, does United do any kind of second meal/snack service before landing in HNL? Again, great report.
"Traveling light is the only way to fly" - Eric Clapton
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 25893 times:
Quoting Mauiman31 (Reply 13): Quoting United1 (Reply 7):
Usual 38" domestic F class same pitch same as DL, AA, or CO have on their domestic aircraft.
The domestic wide bodies (763, 764, A330) that AA,NW and CO use for HI runs all have 58-60" pitch in FC/Biz, with a variation of 170 degree or lie flat. Not sure about DL or US. Yes, if you get a 757 from the coast on AA or NW -- it is standard 38-40.
The widebody(s) that AA, NW, and CO use to HNL are all international configured aircraft that happen to be flying a domestic route. DL and US use domestic configured aircraft on their runs to HNL, with the possible exception in the future being ATL-HNL with a 764.
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3687 posts, RR: 31 Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 25831 times:
Nice pics ...As a paying F passenger (I presume) though I'm slightly bemused as to why one would take United over AA who have a clearly superior seat in the front cabin??
The domestic 777, not that it comes up much on my travels, is the one I try to avoid when flying United in F.
"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
Mauiman31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 434 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 25784 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 16): The widebody(s) that AA, NW, and CO use to HNL are all international configured aircraft that happen to be flying a domestic route. DL and US use domestic configured aircraft on their runs to HNL, with the possible exception in the future being ATL-HNL with a 764.
Correct. But, AA's 762's (currently 3 class) and 763's (2 class) are currently and for years have been regularly scheduled domestically on longer haul, higher volume and transcon routes. And have always had 58-60 pitch in FC and Biz, even before they installed the new seats and did the cabin make over on the 763's. AA does brand "International Flagship" service to Europe, Asia, S. America on the 777's (3 class) and the 76's with much fanicer meals, menus, wine list, other dining options, IFE, amenity kits, Bose headphones. (As am sure UA does internationally) You get none of that domestically on AA (transcon you get a movie player), just the seat and pitch and some type of meal/beverage/snack of course.
Please am not trying to slam UA. A great airline. And a wonderful legacy of service to Hawaii. But, currently AA, NW, and CO can beat them in the comfort level to HI, if that is something one cares about. I do.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 25732 times:
Quoting Mauiman31 (Reply 18): Please am not trying to slam UA. A great airline. And a wonderful legacy of service to Hawaii. But, currently AA, NW, and CO can beat them in the comfort level to HI, if that is something one cares about. I do.
Oh absolutely understood, CO is probably the best US airline for inflight service to HNL in J. They offer a slightly condensed J class service vs their international J class service, which is quite a bit better then domestic F on any carrier. I'm not sure what NW offers in terms of service on its daily domestic widebody flight (MSP-HNL) besides the international J class seat. Is it any different then their normal domestic F service?
Quoting Mauiman31 (Reply 18): 763's (2 class) are currently and for years have been regularly scheduled domestically on longer haul, higher volume and transcon routes. And have always had 58-60 pitch in FC and Biz, even before they installed the new seats and did the cabin make over on the 763's
When AA retired the DC-10s they retrofitted 12 or 13 763s with a slightly upgraded domestic F seat (45" seat pitch ect.) and used them on flights to and from Hawaii. Mind you this is when AA offered 3 class service on the 763s, when AA decided to switch to a 2-class configuration on the 763s they discovered that by merging the Hawaii subfleet into the international 763 fleet they could basically gain an aircraft due to better fleet utilization. So they offer "flagship service" on international flights and domestic F service with the upgraded seats on domestic routes.
I know UA considered offering an upgraded seat to and from the islands, but decided that they could not operate the aircraft in a 3-class configuration profitably. There was also talk of upgrading the domestic widebodies with an enhanced seat however in the end offering a consistent product alongside the 752s to and from Hawaii won out. Will see what the future holds the latest rumor is that the 777s are all going to be reconfigured for international flights and the 763s will take over the ORD-Hawaii runs.
ManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1192 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 25710 times:
Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6): Wow - I'm surprised the first class product looks that poor on a 777. There are no PTV's and the seat pitch looks so tight! At least you got a 4 or 5 course meal.
I never understand why UA fits the domestic 777s with 2-2-2 in F, yet the soon to be old J class on the international 777 is 2-3-2. Why don't UA go 2-3-2 in domestic F, remove a seat row and increase the seat pitch? They could actually fit the J seats they are taking out of the long haul fleet and fit them in domestic F. This would all be for the loss of half an inch width and a single seat. For this they could gain 7-8" pitch. This would give the domestic 777 fleet the same biz seats as the PS 757s, even though pitch would still be less.
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3687 posts, RR: 31 Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 25631 times:
Quoting Mauiman31 (Reply 18): AA does brand "International Flagship" service to Europe, Asia, S. America on the 777's (3 class) and the 76's with much fanicer meals, menus, wine list, other dining options, IFE, amenity kits, Bose headphones. (As am sure UA does internationally) You get none of that domestically on AA (transcon you get a movie player), just the seat and pitch and some type of meal/beverage/snack of course.
You do get the Bose headphones with the Archos media player on the 3 class transcons in F and J.
"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
Ual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 25291 times:
Hey guys, arrived at OHare about 2 hours ago from HNL. Will answer your questions as soon as I get home to OKC and will be uploading the departure and landing videos and extra pictures from the return flight.
AA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2471 posts, RR: 31 Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 25152 times:
Great TR UAL, I especially enjoyed the video section. There really is nothing like that feeling you get when you are taking off in a 777, watching those enormous engines. Breathtaking, really! And it was a bonus when I saw the descent/landing into HNL video. How pretty
Just wondering, did you manage to get the reg numbers of the planes you flew on? I think its always fun to look them up and know which planes i've been on etc...
Anyway, congrats on a great report and hopefully a great trip.
Looking forward to the return TR.
-AA777
25 UAL747: No! I was so sad that I didn't, but it's either 1, hard to see from far away, or 2, the gate never really gives you a clear view of the tail of the a
26 UAL747: The lounge in OKC is not a private airline lounge, but rather sort of a business lounge with a good bar in it, comfy seats, and OKC is all wifi so in
27 747fan: Great TR! I especially liked the takeoff video on the 777 out of ORD, those big Pratts sound awesome!
28 DeltaL1011man: Very nice TR How was the food? It looked pretty good!
29 UAL747: Contrary to what people have said on here about the food, it was good. Not 5 star, but then again I didn't expect that. Hell, I was just excited to g
30 Richbpor: Ha You flew over the home I used to live. My father was stationed in Hawaii and we were lived at Fort Kamehameha. Those are the homes you passed over
31 UAL747: Can anyone tell me if ORD-HNL is still the 777, and in fact ORD-OGG as well? UAL
32 Tigerguy: Yes. Yes, but with a few snags: according to the timetable, the nonstop has been out of service since 8/14. It returns 8/20-27, and goes back out of
33 767747: Even though 2008 is 3 years, it seems a lot has happened to United in that time! ... I Love seeing the 777 in the old United livery ... Not such a com
34 caleb1: I enjoyed your TR. One thing that disappoints and disturbs me however, is that had you been in the economy cabin on this same flight, your only compli
35 777STL: I'm not too terribly impressed with F in the UA 777 domestic. I flew AA ORD-HNL in F last summer and it was much better.
36 mauiman31: Yes, AA's 763 non-stop from ORD-HNL-ORD -- the First Class cabin with the 59' pitch and lie flat seat is much better than UA's domestic 777 FC seatin
37 MSS658: Hi nice trip report, thanks for sharing us a part of the old united. Greetings Marc
38 fxramper: Did you really bump a 3 year old thread for an answer you can find on www.united.com.?