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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 20878 times:

Hello everybody i'm back again with the second part of my summer trip to Morocco. If you would like to read the first part: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/130192/
Before i start with the report i would like to show you some of my best photos taken during the stay in Morocco. Enjoy!


My family owns an apartment in the beach resort Palm Beach that is located 50 km north of Casablanca. This is the pool in Palm Beach.


The Beach


The main street.


One of our two gas stations in Casablanca.


The entrance to the Bab Marrakech Bazaar.


Inside the Bazaar.

Now let's get started with the report shall we.

Pre flight
It's the 12th of July 2008, the day of my journey back home to Sweden. My flight was departing in the early morning so i had to wake up around 3.30 in the night. i did not get any proper sleep during the night, i only got two hours of resting. I prepared did some last preparations before the journey before we took off to the airport around 4.30.
My uncle drove me to the airport, the drive took around 30 minutes. At 5.00 we arrived at Casablanca Mohamed V International Airport. Since my uncle was very tired he dropped me off at the old terminal 1, i told him that my flight was departing from T2 but he wasn't in the mood of driving around the airport, he didn't even want to get out of his car. I told him that i had checked in online so the whole baggage drop procedure would be done pretty quick.
As i entered T1 i had to walk through a metal detector and by baggage had to be scanned, a strange thing though was that the security officers didn't mind letting me pass despite that i had metal objects on me.


A view of the old Terminal 1, i believe that it has been showed in one other TR.


I was a but surprised to see that AT had acquired self-service check-in machines.


Guess where that pic could might come from?


Between T1 and T2, where old meets new.


The new ticket desks at T2.


The transit area at T2. As i entered the transit area the first impression wasn't exactly "wow", but it was nice. It felt much more fresh and airy compared to T1. I also noticed that they had activated the AC, i think it was a bit stupid to activate it at this time of day when it still is cold outside.


As i walked to the check-in counters i noticed that the departure time was changed to 7.55 instead of 6.55. There were also people forming a line at the Y counter, i decided to stand there until i moved to the empty e-services counter, when the agent came at 5.55 she first went to the e-services counter so i was the first person to check in.

Flight three
Flight nr: AF1697 CMN-CDG
Departure: 7.55
Arrival:12.00
Duration: 3h 00m
Aircraft and reg: Airbus A319-111 F-GRHO
Seat: 14A Economy


After clearing emigrations and security i headed towards the hold area in T2. On my way there i found out that the transit and hold area were in two separate buildings.


Between the two buildings.


The first thins i saw were a bunch of duty free shops, so i decided to do some window shopping.


After looking around for a while i ended up buying a Paco Rabanne perfume for the very reasonable price of 19€.


A view of the hold area. There was a big fight between a group of Africans and the airport police, it can actually be seen in the back of the pic.

I decided to get myself a nice espresso before i headed over to my gate.

This A319 had spent the night at CMN and it was soon time for it to take me to Paris.


My AT branded boarding passes for my two flights today (i later changed one of them to an AF branded boarding pass in CDG).


Waiting in a lounge would have been much nicer but i'm not stupid enough to pay 2000€ for a flight in C.


Soon it was time for boarding. I really like the new glass jetways at T2.


Guess what what a/c and reg that is.


View of the old T1 building.


Boarding. The F/A in the left side of the door was really going to make this flight a pain in the a*s. When she saw me taking pictures she asked me "Is this your first time flying?" That question really insulted me, i decided not to say that i was an aviation enthusiast so i replied "No". She also asked me if i spoke arabic which i do, i replied "Yes, but i now prefer to speak english". I then walked to my seat 12A.


View of the cabin while boarding. My seat was located 2 rows behind Tempo Challenge.


The legroom on the A319 was the same as on the A318.


View of the rather empty tarmac.


A private ERJ taxied by, i wonder who the owner might be, Net Jets maybe?


Jetway separation.


A Royal Air Maroc B737-8B6 with the new livery.


An EY A330-200 just arrived from AUH.


A last view of T2.


A selection of small business jets, note the Learjet wearing SV livery.




We taxied by a SV B747SP and B752


A private A310.


This AT B752 landed before before we could take off.




The take off.


Breaking trough a thick layer of clouds.


Climbing to cruising altitude.


We made a hard bank to the right before heading north towards Spain.


During the breakfast service the captain told us that we had the famous Gibraltar airport to the left, i quickly grabbed my camera and snapped a few shots. At this time i recognised the captains voice, i had actually flown with him one year earlier on the back then newest A320 in the fleet, F-GKXN on a flight from CDG to ARN. I also remember that i visited him in the cockpit.

After around 30m into the flight breakfast was served.

Breakfast Menu

Breakfast energiser consisting orange, apple, carrot and mango juice
---
Cold cuts of turkey Mortadella and Gouda Cheese
---
Yoghurt
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Strawberry jam and butter
---
Breadroll and croissant
---
Tea or coffee


The breakfast was rather decent, not the best one I've had. Still i decided to finish it because it was going to be a long layover in Paris and i did not want to waste my money on some overpriced airport food.
When the F/As did the coffee/tea rounds the evil F/A almost refused to serve me coffee. I also noticed that the was smiling and acting friendly to all the other pax except for me. When she came to me she first gave me a mean look then she asked "Why don't you speak arabic?". I lied to her and said "Because i'm not very good at it".

After the breakfast and the unpleasant F/A experience i decided to go for a mandatory visit to the lav.


There wasn't much here too, I've even seen more amenities in the lav on a DY B733. Unlike LH, AF only have one lav in the back of their A319s.


When i got back to my seat we had already started our descent into CDG.

Some pics taken during descent, approach and landing.











CDG really is a Triple Seven Heaven, T7s everywhere.


The Concorde.


I assume this is AF's headquarters.


We parked next to a company B77W.

During de-boarding i wanted to visit the cockpit to meet the captain, but the evil F/A stopped me. So that will always remain a mystery.


The now newest A320 in the AF fleet F-GKXO, there are currently no pics of it in the a.net database.


On my way to the immigrations.
There was a big group of Canadians ahead of me when i realised that i was in the wrong line, so i went to the line for EU citizens.


After clearing immigrations i went to the transit area. CDG was really a big mess today and i wasn't in mood of spending my 8 hour layover in this mess, so i went downstairs to the tourist information center. I asked the agent if i could make it to Paris and back in less that 7 hours, she said that it was possible and the best way to getting directly to cental paris was by bus. The agent told me where the Air France coaches were located, i also recived a map.


I bought a return ticket to central Paris for the very unreasonable price of 22€. When i walked out to the bus i realised that i had forgotten my map so i rushed back to the ticket sales counter and grabbed it, fortunetly i made it back on time to catch the bus.


We passed by the very sad looking terminal 1. On the way to Paris we passed by many of those infamous sad looking suburbs. I was also very surprised to see big neon advertising signs for Korean Air and Air China on the house roofs.


After a 45 minute bus trip i was finally in Paris for the very first time in my life. The first impression of the Triumph Bow was that was much smaller than what i had earlier thought. Everywhere i looked i could see tourists walking around with big cameras and wearing t-shirts with the writing "Michigan" on. I could also see young couples making out on pakrbenches and wherever i walked i could hear people laughing like drunken mainiacs. So as you can see i didn't feel very comfortable here.


I decided to walk away from the Triumph Bow to Champs Elysées.


But i quickly returned because it was so full of tourists and i was also afraid that my bag with ticket, passport and contact lens accesories could might get stolen. When i got back i made an attempt to go to the Eifeltower, but i soon returned because i didn't want to risk missing my flight to Stockholm.


Instead i decided to walk on Avenue Charles De Gaulle towards the business district La Defense, the way there was a bit longer than to the Eifeltower but it was much easier.
At this time i started to get really hungry so i started looking for a McDonalds or a Subway, after hearing some bad things about McDo in Paris i decided to go on empty stomach.


After roughly an hour of walking i arrived at the fountains near La Defense, i did not want to go any further mainly because i was tired but also because i didn't want to miss my flight. So i sat down and rested for a couple of minutes before i began walking the long way back to the Triumph Bow


On my way back i decided to walk on the smaller streets instead.




Pics taken on my walk back.


This was pretty much the only thing i could see of the Eifeltower.


This was the last pic i took of the Triumph Bow before it was time to get on the bus back to the airport. I slept for most of the 45m long trip back to CDG.

When i arrived i was starving so i went to the food court to buy myself a baguette. I chose a salmon and cheese baguette, when i was going to pay for it the machine didn't accept my card. I tried several times but it just didn't work so i simply just had to give back my baguette. I walked away from there feeling hungry and incredibly embarassed.
Before passing security i went to the restroom to wash my face from all the dirt i got from Paris. After passing the security i exchanged 20SEK to 1.91€. For the money i bought a small pack of Lays potato chips.

Flight four
Flight nr: AF 1262 CDG-ARN
Departure: 20.00
Arrival: 22.30
Duration: 2h 30m
Aircraft and reg: Airbus A320-211 F-GFKN
Seat: 14F Economy


After having that pack of chips my hunger was temporarily gone. During the last 30 minutes before the boarding was called i read in the in-flight magazine, after that i did some window shopping before heading back to gate.


Boarding was called at 19.20, when i walked down the jetway i couldn't see the aircraft.


I soon found out that our A320 was parked at a remote parking stand, so instead of boarding an A320 we boarded a Cobus 3000.


After a 20m bus ride we arrived at the new Terminal 2E. The terminal looked really nice and fresh.


Walking down to the plane.


Boarding.


I noticed that our A320 was one of the older versions, the seats were old but the ceiling and overhead bins looked quite new.


The old seats are a bit more comfortable than the new ones.


The legroom on this flight was excellent.


We departed on time, to my big surprise we taxied to the runway on the other side of the airport.




We taxied by a number of regional jets.




Take off.


We made a hard bank to the left, this made it possible to get a decent view of the airport.


Between two layers of clouds.


Finally some blue skies.

Since i had ordered a Muslim meal for this flight i feared that it would end up getting a crappy low cal meal.

Dinner Menu

Starter: Tabbouleh (Lebanese couscous salad)
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Main Course: Prawns and salmon paté with fried squash, cauliflower, red and yellow carrots and zucchini
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Dessert and Cheese: Cherry pie and Président Camembert Brie
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Bread and Butter
---
Tea and Coffee










The meal was wonderful, maybe the best meal I've ever had onboard an airplane, it looked much tastier than the food the others got (Fried salmon and lentils). I finished every single bit of the meal (i waited with the dessert until the coffee came)

After the meal i went to the lav.

The lav on this plane was blue and very old.


As the sun started to set we began our descent to ARN.


Making a final turn before landing.


The pilot made a smooth touchdown at ARN, the landing scenery was almost magical. It felt really nice to be back in Sweden after 25 long days in Morocco.


Turning off the runway.


Taxing to our gate at Terminal 5.


I really like the jetways at ARN.


Walking to the baggage claim. As i got to the baggage claim it took a while before something that looked like a crushed red bag appeared on the belt. I feared that AF would have lost my baggage as they always do, but this time it had arrived unsafely to its final destination.

As i walked out to the Arrivals hall my mom wasn't there so i had to call her and say that i had arrived. It took her who hours to get to ARN and i was home in VST at around 5.30 in the morning. When i got home i passed out on my bed and slept the entire day.

That will mark the end of this journey, thank you for reading and feel free to give comments.

Next trip: A weekend to Prague on OK

Stay tuned until then, Bye.


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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 20621 times:

Hi, Jonas again,

really interesting pics, especially that ones from Morocco, a country I want to visit soon.
Also CMN airport was interesting.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Airbus A319-111 F-GRHO

It seems not that much planes there at AF, this one is also covered in my log!.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8589 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 20531 times:
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Nice follow up report, thanks.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The breakfast was rather decent, not the best one I've had

- Looks pretty rough actually, not nice looking at all!

Nice trip overall and you flew each of the 4 Airbus narrow body types, pretty cool!

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2123 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 20366 times:

Hi LH4116,

Thanks for your report, I read both the trip going and the trip coming back.

I am (maybe) disappointed to read about the cabin crew questions of "do you speak Arabic" or "why don't you speak Arabic?"

I say "maybe" because perhaps they wanted to practice their Arabic with you ? Or maybe they were just snotty.

But I'm sure you agree it cannot be a generalisation of the entire AF cabin crew !



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User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 20034 times:

Jonas, great TR!
judging by all the Saudi private jets at CMN especially the B747SP I would say that the Saudi Royal Family were in town, I believe that the private A310 is also Saudi owned!
It was also nice to see a Corvette biz jet on the biz apron! There's not many of these left flying these days! By the way the Saudi Learjet is a Gulfstream!

Dave(SAAB900)


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 19907 times:



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
really interesting pics, especially that ones from Morocco, a country I want to visit soon.
Also CMN airport was interesting.

Yes Morocco is a very interesting country. If you one day would like to visit the country you should might consider going to Marrakech or Agadir because those places are a bit more tourist friendly. Casablanca isn't a very nice city, it's very dirty there and the air isn't very clean people usually go there on weekend trips from Marrakech or Agadir.
The new Terminal 2 at CMN is a huge improvement over the old T1, it's much more bight and airy. A strange thing though is despite the fact that the jetways are A380 capable the WB planes still use the remote stands (you can see that in the pic of the EY A332).

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
- Looks pretty rough actually, not nice looking at all!

The breakfast tasted like sh*t, eating the mortadella was like eating wax and the cheese had some weird seeds in it.

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 3):
I say "maybe" because perhaps they wanted to practice their Arabic with you ? Or maybe they were just snotty.

But I'm sure you agree it cannot be a generalisation of the entire AF cabin crew !

I didn't want to speak Arabic because i thought it was time to change language to English and then Swedish. I also didn't want to speak Arabic because no one else did all the other pax including the Moroccans spoke French. Besides the dialect spoken in Morocco isn't a very nice dialect.
The crew on all the other flights were absolutely fantastic, they were constantly smiling, talking friendly and offered great service.



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19821 times:



Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Unlike LH, AF only have one lav in the back of their A319s.

AF A319 also used to have 2 LAV at the rear ... but one of them was removed and replaced by ... a row of 3 seats !!! (money money money ...). All the fleet was retrofitted about 3 or 4 years ago.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I assume this is AF's headquarters.

Actually, this used to be the CREW CENTER until last year when a brand new one (much bigger) opened.
It is now part of the AF Headquarter located just beside : a the long white building.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
We departed on time, to my big surprise we taxied to the runway on the other side of the airport.

This is due to the ATC organization at CDG : if your flight route is heading north, the North Runway 27/09 is used for departure, even when leaving from CDG2 Terminal.
If your flight is heading south, the south Runway 26/08 is assigned for take off, even for aircraft coming from CDG1.


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 19241 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6):

Ok, thanks for the info!



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17147 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 19213 times:



Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
CDG really is a Triple Seven Heaven, T7s everywhere

Absolutely. With AF having +50 777s that isnt strange.



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User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 19193 times:

I saw a picture of a Muslim meal served on a US airline on airlinemeals.net and it also looked great, better than the regular meals.

User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5129 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 19159 times:



Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
When she saw me taking pictures she asked me "Is this your first time flying?"

= Jaja. I get it a lot during my TR's ... or, the rather amusing ... "are you excited for your first experience in Business Class" ... there was one time this FA was super excited that it was apparently my first time ... so she kept on saying silly things like, "you place your table cloth on the table" (serious) and not asking me wine/meal choices/etc. ... you know, basically I should be happy with I have been given. Later, on my way to the bathroom, she speaking in French (oops, did it give away the airline  Wink), was telling her colleague about how J class is losing its prestige with all these "newcomers" (jaja, and I am white) and looking at me. I coolly looked at her back and said in fluent French that she should check the flight manifest and see my status ... and that it would be hard to attain the same flying on the back of the bus. She shut up for the rest of the flight.

Many FA's actually do care and want your first experience on a flight/in J/etc. to be positive and great. Then there are some who make it a point to make you feel like they own the place and you are doing them a favor. What these people forget is that the first time flyer/J flyer has paid the same money that the well-traveled has for this one flight and they everyone should be treated with courtesy and respect.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
CDG was really a big mess today

= Today? What do you mean? There are times when CDG is not a mess?

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 3):

But I'm sure you agree it cannot be a generalization of the entire AF cabin crew !

= Unfortunately, I have had my share of really really poor AF cabin crew.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The meal was wonderful, maybe the best meal I've ever had onboard an airplane, it looked much tastier than the food the others got (Fried salmon and lentils). I finished every single bit of the meal (i waited with the dessert until the coffee came)

= Wow. That meal looks better than many J/F experiences I have had! Now I know the secret of flying AF ... that is, if I ever do again.

Cheers,
A.



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 18950 times:

Thanks for the replies guys!

Quoting Semsem (Reply 9):
I saw a picture of a Muslim meal served on a US airline on airlinemeals.net and it also looked great, better than the regular meals.

Well on the CDG-CMN-CDG sectors the meals served were "actual" Muslim meals, and i must say that they weren't that nice. The meal i got on the CDG-ARN flight was more of a seafood meal rather than a Muslim.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 10):
= Wow. That meal looks better than many J/F experiences I have had! Now I know the secret of flying AF ... that is, if I ever do again.

AF's intra EU product Y is very good compared to the other European majors. On flights 2h30m or longer a full meal is served, on BA, KL and LH they only serve those tiny crappy sandwiches.
The meal i was served could much likely have been a J meal on LH. I actually saw the meals served in Y+ and J, they looks very similar to the Y meal. The only differences was that they were served on long haul Y trays, cutlery and plates/cups, and that the cheese was served on a small plate.
I really think you should give AF another chance but on the other hand i'm fully aware of your extremely bad experiences on AF.



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User currently offlineRobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 18804 times:

Nice report, I need to go to CMN again. It's long five years that I've been there (still terminal 1).

The food on the CDG - ARN leg really looks good!

Are you sure about the picture that should show Gibraltar? I used to live next to the runway for 8 months, it really doesn't look like it. Check maps.google.com:

Größere Kartenansicht

[Edited 2008-08-16 15:12:31]

User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 18347 times:



Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 12):
Nice report, I need to go to CMN again. It's long five years that I've been there (still terminal 1).



Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 12):
Are you sure about the picture that should show Gibraltar? I used to live next to the runway for 8 months, it really doesn't look like it. Check maps.google.com:

Well the captain said that it was Gibraltar but he could have been wrong. I personally think that it looks a lot like the Gibraltar airport, take a look at this pic and compare.

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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Sebastian Kringel



Oh and by the way i forgot to post up the pic of the lav and when the plane went trough the clouds.

Finally some blue skies.


The lav on this plane was blue and very old.



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User currently offlineConrad1402 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17687 times:

Excellent report! You've taken some very good pictures, which enhance the way you convey your opinions.

As we've agreed, AF catering is particularly bad. Whilst you were travelling in Y, I received similar (if not worse) in C. Do all AF breakfasts have to consists of cold meats and cheese? I guess it's the traditional continental breakfast, or maybe the hard cheese and ham are cheaper.


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16171 times:



Quoting Conrad1402 (Reply 14):
Excellent report! You've taken some very good pictures, which enhance the way you convey your opinions

Well thank you.

Quoting Conrad1402 (Reply 14):
As we've agreed, AF catering is particularly bad. Whilst you were travelling in Y, I received similar (if not worse) in C. Do all AF breakfasts have to consists of cold meats and cheese? I guess it's the traditional continental breakfast, or maybe the hard cheese and ham are cheaper.

The AF Y catering is far more superior than on the other EU airlines. The only bad thing about their food is the breakfasts, all of them consist of cold cuts and cheese. The quality on the cold cuts varies, i have had very nice cuts of chicken breast once, but this time i got some kind of wax sausage.



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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1721 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 16063 times:

Hello Jonas,

Great report with some very interesting shots!
I always love to see that AT 744, as she operates quite often to AMS during summer.
It's one of the better looking 747's I would say!
Your experiences with AF are quite average, as with most other European carriers.
It all depends on the crews, something some airlines could pay a bit more attention to.
Thanks for sharing, and keep those reports coming!

Cheers,
Joost (D-ALCE)



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15526 times:

Hello D-ALCE, i'm glad you enjoyed my report!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 16):
I always love to see that AT 744, as she operates quite often to AMS during summer.
It's one of the better looking 747's I would say!

CN-RGA is indeed a nice looking aircraft, i would love to fly on her some day, maybe next summer from CDG or AMS.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 16):
Your experiences with AF are quite average, as with most other European carriers.

Actually i think that my experiences with AF were a bit extraordinairy, i can't come up with any other airline that would serve you prawns on a 2h 45m intra EU flight. The selection of drinks was also good.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 16):
Thanks for sharing, and keep those reports coming!

I sure will  Smile



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 14892 times:

Hi Jonas,
so, today I was reading your report all at once Big grin For some reason I missed them.

Pics are great, meals too. Now I understand why you decide to fly AF out of ARN! Believe me, you won't choose them when you fly to CDG on them out of AMS. You can be lucky to have longer flight times, so you get a better meal!
Did you ever fly AT to Morocco? I wonder how they are, because I would love to visit that country some day for a summer holiday in a nice resort. And if I go, I would also love to fly on CN-RGA for that occassion  Wink

Cheers,
Eric



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 14872 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
Hi Jonas,
so, today I was reading your report all at once Big grin For some reason I missed them.

I'm glad you enjoyed reading them.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
Pics are great, meals too. Now I understand why you decide to fly AF out of ARN! Believe me, you won't choose them when you fly to CDG on them out of AMS. You can be lucky to have longer flight times, so you get a better meal!

When i fly to Morocco, i have two options. AF or LH. On LH i will get a sandwich on the ARN-FRA sector and a full hot meal+ apretif on the second sector. Or i can chose AF where i will get cold meal trays on both flights. This time i went for the latter since their fares were much lower, though i did otherwise want the M&M miles that i would have got if i chosed LH.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
Did you ever fly AT to Morocco?

I have actually flown with them one time, it was back in 98 when i flew them on AMS-CMN. The flight was a codeshare since KLM had dropped the route a year earlier.
The meals weren't good at all, and i remember that people were allowed to smoke in the cabin.
From what i've heard about them in recent days, they aren't a good airline. Bad food, rude cabin crew, and unproperly maintained aircrafts.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
I wonder how they are, because I would love to visit that country some day for a summer holiday in a nice resort. And if I go, I would also love to fly on CN-RGA for that occassion

Morocco is a great country. Though it gets really hot in the "tourist friendly" cities (Marrakech and Agadir) during the summers, on the other hand there aren't many tourists around in that time of year so you'll probably find a good price for a hotel.
Since there are many Moroccans living in The Netherlands they use the 744 for the summer Exxodus. If you go on this trip one day, i would love to see a TR Big grin

Regards Jonas



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