BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8258 posts, RR: 56 Posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12707 times:
Hello Dear readers, thanks for dropping in
I had decided to join Emirates for their A380 first flight, this is the first of 3 reports detailing my travels.
The plan was to leave the UK Thursday evening and be back in London Saturday afternoon after some 26 odd hours in the air.
31.07.08 VS400 A340-642 G-VGAS 2A
1st Flight on this aircraft & 9th A340 Flight
SCH DEP 21:30 SCH ARR 06:55
ACT DEP 21:06 ACT ARR 06:46 (on stand 06:55)
dropped me off outside Heathrow’s T3 just before 19:00, certainly looks much better here than last time I passed through, looking back, that too was in search of an A380 flight!
The regular VS check-in line looked pretty long, but Upper Class had few people waiting. Despite 5 agent’s checking passengers in, it did take some 5 minutes to get checked in, there seemed to be issues with the passengers ahead of me…………
VS have a priority security screening area for premium passengers, you take the lift to the right of the check-in desks, scan the bar code on your boarding pass and it let’s you into the priority screening point, fantastic!
Once through, you still have to join the masses to have your passport checked, then remove your shoes for secondary screening – still dubious to the point in this!
Once in the shopping mall I realised why I dislike T3, people everywhere, you can’t get where you want in a hurry, the queue in WH Smith was huge, almost to the point in do you really need to purchase this stuff?? ( I am now on EK3801, 3 hours from JFK and have still not used the stuff I bought!)
Not wanting anything else I decided to head out to the lounge.
First impressions, nice and airy, liked the waiter service and selections of food, they seemed on a par with BA’s Gallaries.
Unfortunately the roof garden remains closed following the fire smokers started, it’s always the minority that spoil things for the majority!
I decided to have a small snack as I’d not eaten much during the day.
Views from the lounge
It was whist eating I noticed the lounge was quite noisy, piped music was played and if you were close to a TV, you had the noise from that too.
Toilet
Boarding was announced at 20:14, the flight departing from gate 34 which was a 10 minute walk.
My plane from the gate, bad picture, sorry
Boarding was quick and easy as Upper Class and Premium Economy had a separate line to queue jump, I was soon aboard with a nice glass of champagne – though it was slightly on the warm side.
Crew seemed friendly enough and asked each passenger if they had flown Upper Class before, if the needed help with the seat, in addition they asked if we wanted to eat or sleep – I decided to eat.
My seat
Seat storage
View
Window view
Push occurred a few minutes late, the captain having already advised due to paperwork issues, what ever that means, additionally he announced today’s flight time would be 6h 25 minutes, I’ll be timing that.
Push occurred at 21:06 and we began a taxi over to 09R for this evening’s departure, our turn taking place and wheels up at 21:23 local time.
Once the crew were released dinner orders were taken and Fast Track vouchers were issued to speed our way through DXB, the amenity pack was pretty poor, basically a shoe bag with eye shades and a pack with a toothbrush and toothpaste, that said the crew did come around with a basket offering additional items such as raisers, pens and polo’s! – I took a pen and the polo’s – easily pleased me!
Around 25 minutes into the flight hot towels were issues, almost an hour later these had not been collected nor had any drinks been served.
Roughly 1 hour into the flight my meal arrived, drinks served shortly afterwards. I took the chicken. The meal was nice enough, portion perfect for the time of flight, though the chicken was slightly on the dry side.
After dinner I walked the plane, Premium Economy was full, Economy had only a handful of empty seats. I note the seat fabrics have been changed in economy, now much more tasteful than last time I flew down back with VS.
After the walk I sat at the much touted bar and had a drink or 2 with the crew and a few other passengers.
I have to say the bar is not quite as impressive as I thought and found the area more of a work area for the staff than a relaxation area for UC passengers, that said, it was nice not to be stuck in your seat for the entire flight. I again noted the champagne was not that cold, the crew advised there seemed to be an issue with cooling the drinks – I noted wine & champagne being delivered with ice in the glasses to cool it down!
Not sure what the time was but the seat belt sign came on and we retired to our seats, I reclined, took out the duvet and dropped off after a few pages of my book.
1 hour before arrival breakfast was served, I took the fresh fruit, OJ, omlette with chicken sausage, mushrooms and grilled tomato, was ok, fruit was the best part, seemed nice and fresh, well chilled, overall not the best breakfast I’ve had on a plane, the coffee was not too good either.
A freshen up in the and we were on finals for DXB, on finals you could see new land being created in the sea, tonnes of sand being piled up to create islands, fascinating!
Wheels touched down at 06:45, some 10 minutes ahead of schedule, some 6 hours 22 minute and 32 seconds of flight,
My next ride
10 minutes later before we pulled into a remote stand next to A7-BAA, nice, my first sighting of a QR 77W.
Being on a remote stand we had the pleasure of being bussed in one of the much discussed Dubai Airport busses, these covered in decals making photo’s nigh on impossible.
Exit from the aircraft was like walking into a blast furnace and it was only 7am, hell, can’t imagine what it’s like a lunch time!
The immigration queue’s were pretty small, and I was through with a stamp in my passport less than 10m minutes after stepping off the plane, pretty good, had envisaged massive queues.
Once through passport control your bag’s have to be x-rayed before you can proceed, after that out into the blast furnace again to find check-in for the real quest in this journey………………………..
Thanks for reading, hope you enjoyed the trip so far, next part, EK3801 to follow!
N104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 889 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12678 times:
UAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 902 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12676 times:
Can't wait to see your second ride ,,, hurry-up buddy, hundredns are waiting for it
LH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1672 posts, RR: 15 Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12613 times:
Hello Mark, thanks for the report, it was very interesting to see a VS J report on the forum. To me the food on VS J seemed a bit poor, i thought that they would have served more for breakfast. I'm really looking forward to your next report!
I won't stop complaining until SAS reintroduces free service in Economy Class!
Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12571 times:
Great TR, I have an odd question what kind of car is that your "driver" has?
"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
Airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4015 posts, RR: 52 Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12312 times:
Hi Mark,
what a supurb detailed report again!
Watching some details, I just wonder ,,,
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): SCH DEP 21:30 SCH ARR 06:55
ACT DEP 21:06 ACT ARR 06:46 (on stand 06:55)
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): Push occurred a few minutes late, the captain having already advised due to paperwork issues,
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): Push occurred at 21:06 and we began a taxi over to 09R for this evening’s departure, our turn taking place and wheels up at 21:23 local time.
Did you had your clock at the right time
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): tonnes of sand being piled up to create islands, fascinating!
Can you imagine that all of this work is mostly done by the Dutch
Overall, I think Upper Class on VS would be something 'more' then what they showed us on your flight to DXB. I don't think it's too special, and not something I would expect from VS.
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8258 posts, RR: 56 Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12038 times:
Hi Folk's, thanks for your reads and replies.
Quoting N104UA (Reply 1): Great TR Cant wait for the EK3801 TR
- Thanks, am working on it.
Quoting N104UA (Reply 1): Can't wait to see your second ride ,,, hurry-up buddy, hundredns are waiting for it
- Would be here already, Photobucket is very slow this evening!
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 3): Hello Mark, thanks for the report, it was very interesting to see a VS J report on the forum. To me the food on VS J seemed a bit poor, i thought that they would have served more for breakfast. I'm really looking forward to your next report!
- Thanks for your comments. I have flown VS previously in Y and was quite impressed, however I guess I expected more from thei Upper Class product, I think I was a little dissapointed to be honest, won't be rushing to spent my hard earnt cash on VS Upper Class again.
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 4): Great TR, I have an odd question what kind of car is that your "driver" has?
- The driver is MissBA319-131, she is driving my car, a Mondeo 2.0 TCDI Titanium X, great car BTW!
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 5): Watching some details, I just wonder ,,,
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
SCH DEP 21:30 SCH ARR 06:55
ACT DEP 21:06 ACT ARR 06:46 (on stand 06:55)
- Sorry, typo, SCH DEP should read 21:00.
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 5): Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
tonnes of sand being piled up to create islands, fascinating!
Can you imagine that all of this work is mostly done by the Dutch
- You guy's are more than qualified
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 5): Overall, I think Upper Class on VS would be something 'more' then what they showed us on your flight to DXB. I don't think it's too special, and not something I would expect from VS.
- Agreed, nothing special at all, disapointed to be honest.
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8258 posts, RR: 56 Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11946 times:
Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 7): Just curious -- are you flying on purchased tickets or do you travel non-rev?
LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3742 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11561 times:
Mark,
Thanks for another lovely TR. I enjoy your voyages very much and the way you write honestly and descriptively. You definitely remind me of the best, Abrelosojos, FBGDavidson, Carfield...and a few other's..
I've heard similar comments about VS. It's not all touted up to what it suppossedly is. It's disappointing to see they don't provide a nice amentity kit. I thought they would have with some high end products (do they offer these in addition to the other items you mentioned?). BA definitely is the best (I've always had pleasant trips with them in CW x3 and BA First x1).
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8258 posts, RR: 56 Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11388 times:
Quoting Ojas (Reply 10): thanks for the picture of the QR B77W, just validates my assumption that it does multiple quickies from DOH to DXB
- It's funny, I ad originally planned planned to go QR, the schedule was 333 & 321, I thing the 77W was subbed for the 321.
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 11): Mark,
Thanks for another lovely TR. I enjoy your voyages very much and the way you write honestly and descriptively. You definitely remind me of the best, Abrelosojos, FBGDavidson, Carfield...and a few other's..
- Thanks for the kind words Jeb
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 11): I've heard similar comments about VS. It's not all touted up to what it suppossedly is. It's disappointing to see they don't provide a nice amentity kit. I thought they would have with some high end products (do they offer these in addition to the other items you mentioned?). BA definitely is the best (I've always had pleasant trips with them in CW x3 and BA First x1).
- It's funny, economy get a reasonable little pack as their amenity pack, so UC's offerings inc the stuff on the trays, small moisturisers, raiser etc, seems a little lame.
StefanPAD From Germany, joined Dec 2005, 282 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11314 times:
Hi Mark,
thanks for a new interesting story. Interesting to see VS in Business-Class. The arrangement of the seats makes it difficult to look outside, or am I wrong?
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8258 posts, RR: 56 Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10896 times:
- Thanks Stefan, VS Upper Class TR's are few and far between compared to SQ, BA, LX etc
Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 13): Interesting to see VS in Business-Class. The arrangement of the seats makes it difficult to look outside, or am I wrong?
- Correct, in my seat I had to swist my head/body over 90 degrees to see out of the window. Those who like looking out of the window on day flights really won't like this.
Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 14): Excellent TR! Will give VS Upper Class a try soon
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3687 posts, RR: 32 Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10814 times:
Mark, I've been reading your reports backwards!
Another superb job and interesting to see the VS UC perspective from another BA regular. I'm amazed at the need to put ice in champagne/wine to keep them cool, that'd ruin the taste completely! I'm surprised there was no way to jury-rig some form of ice box for the drinks needing to be kept cool. The food also looked pretty poor, even compared to the fairly unremarkable 'cuisine' I had in Club World last week across the pond.
I still really should give VS UC a chance some day. A few here have told me to try it out but to be honest it doesn't seem that much better to tear me away from BA. Maybe once I'm in a blackhole between the tier points needed for something good after renewing BA Gold and I've got too many miles to care about I'll give it a shot. However, after reading your report I'm glad I recommended BA Club World over Virgin UC for my father the other day...
I agree on your comments from the other report about DXB. I flew into/out of there on BA in May and didn't think it was that good. Plenty of walking from the arrival gate to immigration inbound although priority immigration was good. On the outbound though it is a mess. Why the need for checked bags to be searched, then umpteen boarding pass and security checks? Once you get out to the central terminal thing it is unbelievably busy!!!
"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8258 posts, RR: 56 Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10747 times:
Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16): Mark, I've been reading your reports backwards!
- No proble, nice to have you read them in any order!
Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16): Another superb job and interesting to see the VS UC perspective from another BA regular
- Agreed, not that many VS TR's around really and those there are tend to be from first time flyers who don't travel much.
Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16): I'm amazed at the need to put ice in champagne/wine to keep them cool, that'd ruin the taste completely! I'm surprised there was no way to jury-rig some form of ice box for the drinks needing to be kept cool.
- They were trying without much success to use dry ice bags
Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16): The food also looked pretty poor, even compared to the fairly unremarkable 'cuisine' I had in Club World last week across the pond.
- Food was ok, nothing special at all though for their premium product.
Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16): still really should give VS UC a chance some day. A few here have told me to try it out but to be honest it doesn't seem that much better to tear me away from BA. Maybe once I'm in a blackhole between the tier points needed for something good after renewing BA Gold and I've got too many miles to care about I'll give it a shot. However, after reading your report I'm glad I recommended BA Club World over Virgin UC for my father the other day...
- I'm happy I took this flight, more so as I prefer the A340 over 777's, she is so so quiet! Plane aside, VS would not be the first choice up front though would likely be so along with BA if travelling in economy.
Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16): I agree on your comments from the other report about DXB. I flew into/out of there on BA in May and didn't think it was that good. Plenty of walking from the arrival gate to immigration inbound although priority immigration was good. On the outbound though it is a mess. Why the need for checked bags to be searched, then umpteen boarding pass and security checks? Once you get out to the central terminal thing it is unbelievably busy!!!
- Tell me about it! First thing there are people everywhere, by the time we left, many of the other flights had left taking with them all those passengers, terminal was much better then.
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6183 posts, RR: 79 Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10677 times:
Another great report, Mark. But I'm a bit disappointed about VS' premium product - and that's not just because I read your EK report first. Seats, amenities, food - there seems to be a lot to improve on VS.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): I noted wine & champagne being delivered with ice in the glasses to cool it down!
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8258 posts, RR: 56 Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10660 times:
Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 18): Thanks for a nice view into the world of VS
- Anytime Stein.
Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 18): I really like the way VS lounge at LHR looks
- Looks nice, but I prefer BA's new Gallaries.
Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 18): I also prefer the 340 over the 777. It so much quieter
- So right!
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19): Another great report, Mark. But I'm a bit disappointed about VS' premium product - and that's not just because I read your EK report first. Seats, amenities, food - there seems to be a lot to improve on VS.
- Hi PH, I'm sure glad the flight had not followed the EK one, I'd have been even more disapointed with the VS product!
Don't get me wrong, it's ok but this particular flight did nothing to really impress and grab a new loyal passenger.
Contact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14 Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10632 times:
Hi Mark,
again a detailed report with lots of great pics. VS-reports don't show up very often here, so this was interesting.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): The plan was to leave the UK Thursday evening and be back in London Saturday afternoon after some 26 odd hours in the air.
Sounds like a tight schedule. Flying that much in such a short time sounds exhausting, even for an aviation enthusiast. But then again, it's Business Class - imagine the same trip in Economy!
I'm looking forward to the next parts of your report.
again a detailed report with lots of great pics. VS-reports don't show up very often here, so this was interesting.
- Thanks, and yes VS TR's are short on the ground, perhaps A.NETTERS are not that keen on them?
Quoting Contact Air (Reply 21): Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The plan was to leave the UK Thursday evening and be back in London Saturday afternoon after some 26 odd hours in the air.
Sounds like a tight schedule. Flying that much in such a short time sounds exhausting, even for an aviation enthusiast. But then again, it's Business Class - imagine the same trip in Economy!
- It was tight, especially if I encountered issues. I booked the flights to have a minimum of 4 hours layover to allow for imigration, delays etc. The EK flight should have been a Y segment which would have made it less fun, however I managed to change that
In the end everything went on-time except flight number 4 - more of that in my last TR of the 3.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24873 posts, RR: 60 Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10019 times:
Great TR , I kind have read your TRs ass ways lol... I just needed to see the A380 one first ... do hope you understand LOL.....
Nice pics and a good read. I still have yet to have decent Chicken on any airline !! I like your personal driver. You will be getting her a cap soon. I hope you brought her back some nice pressies....
Looking forward to the Swiss one.....
Philip
OLYMPIC AIR - ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΗ "Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΨΗΛΑ" "GREECE FLYING HIGH"
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8258 posts, RR: 56 Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10012 times:
Hi Philip,
Quoting OA260 (Reply 23): Great TR , I kind have read your TRs ass ways lol
- Don't worry, your not alone!
Quoting OA260 (Reply 23): I just needed to see the A380 one first ... do hope you understand LOL.....
- Totally, I'd be the same.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 23): I like your personal driver. You will be getting her a cap soon. I hope you brought her back some nice pressies....
- Tks Nic got Swiss chocolates and a bottle of Vodka
Quoting OA260 (Reply 23): Looking forward to the Swiss one.....
25 DanTaylor2006: A great trip report of VS Upper Class and Dubai! I think the photographs are great, while the Upper Class lounge looks quite snazzy. I actually read i
26 FLIEGER67: Hi, Mark, reading your story from part to part at the hotel lobby in DRS during the long weekend. To much other people around, so time now at home for
27 B747forever: Nice TR Mark, as usual. The pics are really nice. Seems you had a pleasant flight with VS after all. The transfer busses in DXB looks horrible. Really
28 BA319-131: HI Markus, Thanks for reading and your comments, trust you had a nice weekend with the family. The EK 380 in J is a nice experience, hopefully they ca
29 B747forever: Maybe, but still we are not supposed to be in that buses for hours. However when will part 3 of 3 be up?? Cant wait
30 Ronerone: Mr. Mark! Absolutely fantastic read! Your spotting pics are the best man! I haven't read much about VS in a long time...I hope to fly them again soon
31 BA319-131: Hi Roni, Thanks for reading and your comments left - Thanks pal - Nice, when/where was that? - Yes, looks pretty neat! - Agreed, it works well though