I was originally booked on QF1 for this flight. I had upgrade requests in for both Premium Economy and Business Class, and when I was checking online around midday (prior to the scheduled 17:00 departure) I noticed that my flights had changed. QF1 was delayed to 20:25! This meant I'd miss my Royal Jordanian connections on Bangkok.
I called Qantas and pointed out this not so small problem. I was immediately booked onto the QF301, which is the BA10. No problem - no upgrade, no seat request (apart from "Forward Aisle"), and no Qantas.
When I got to the airport, the BA check-in staff said that one other Qantas flight was cancelled, and the QF1 was delayed - so my flight was absolutely packed with no seats to spare. This turned out to be true!
Happily, my baggage was through checked to Dublin, meaning I don't have to see its 28kg until later. I was pleased that BA accepted the bag, even though it's over their 23kg maximum per bag policy. Nothing at all was said
Once checked in, I passed through Immigration and Security and went to the Qantas Club. Some of the decor and a champagne...
I decided to get some food...
The view from the PCs is nothing short of stunning, facing directly to the city of Sydney.
Lunch time food options were good!
There was hot food too - pies and quiches, as well as soup.
The toilets are also nicely fitted out.
Anyway, after a while there, I went and browsed the Duty Free selection to see if they sold models of Qantas planes. Alas, they don't and as I was flying BA I lost my chance to grab one.
I walked down to the gate, and was one of the first on board, as I get priority boarding with my Frequent Flyer status.
Here is a view of the BA Y cabin, something I hadn't seen in quite a long time.
Oh yes, four seats in a row *shudder*
The view to my left.
Surprisingly, the seat didn't feel cramped - it helps that I am short and slim.
Happily, they even have a footrest, shades of the premium classes!
While people were boarding, my two and a half champagnes and bottle of water from the lounge began to make itself felt, so I hit the facilities. The loo -
... and of course I washed my hands afterwards!
More and more people were boarding and no-one was sitting next to me. Was I to be lucky and have three seats to myself?
Across the wing...
Some of the overhead lockers seem to have an extra mesh guard inside them, which I've only seen on BA.
These can lock independently of the actual locker door itself. The PTV is quite small, but considering it's a foot in front of your face there is actually no problem with the size.
Two guys from Manly going on a working holiday to the UK sat next to me - both of them quite heftily built. Both of them had their knees in the seat in front of them while sitting down, and I was glad of the aisle to move into to get more room.
Doors closed, safety demo and we took off to the north. Drinks served first, Gin & Tonics for my travelling companions and I. Once that was completed (and it took what seemed like ages), we were served dinner.
Red wine, water, some shockingly fatty and horrible beef, mashed potato, beans, a bun, some crumble thing for dessert, a salad and a Kit Kat. Overall not bad, but the meat was dire.
We had more Gin & Tonic's, then the boys opened up a bottle of Bacardi that they'd bought Duty Free. I was Coke runner and we essentially went through two bottles of Bacardi on the flight between the three of us
I watched "21" (great film) and "Cars" (great too!), and after that we were chatting away merrily for the flight. It's much friendlier down the back than in Business Class, I have to say! I also popped down the back and had a great old chat with one of the Flight Attendants as well.
We landed on time, and I was pleased the flight had gone so quickly The BA Y seat is pretty comfortable for people of a certain size, but for really tall people, or fat people it would be a bit of a nightmare. Food was poor to average, but otherwise it was a good flight
Hope you enjoyed the report, next up is the BKK-AMM sector on RJ
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8743 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 21554 times:
Nice report and pictures, thanks.
Quoting ClassicLover (Thread starter): then the boys opened up a bottle of Bacardi that they'd bought Duty Free. I was Coke runner and we essentially went through two bottles of Bacardi on the flight between the three of us
- Sounds like you had fun
BA economy is pretty good, though not flown it longhaul for a while, I certainly don't object to using it.
BAStew From Madagascar, joined Sep 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 21021 times:
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 6): What is that blue thing sticking out of the wall in the lavatory? Looks.... odd.
Seat wipes! LOL.
Of course I may be a bit bias but I reckon BA economy is not too bad. Although the pitch is pretty standard, I find the seat one of the most comfortable Y seats around. I am not a fan of the new ultra slim seats which seem to offer no padding what-so-ever and i love the 'ears' on the seat which are independent from the rest of the headrest if that makes sense. I know a lot of taller guys & girls will find the leg room issue more important than seat comfort. I am often amused by how many people think that airlines offering better leg room do it because they are generous and install less seats. This may be true of one or two airlines but on the whole they increase the legroom by installing slimmer/thinner seats or packing more across in a row.
There have of course been a lot of cost cuts since 9/11 which have taken its toll in economy more than any other cabin on the aircraft. Gone are the printed menus, the pre-take off juice or water, hot towels, warm rolls. Oddly, it wasnt actually the item that saved BA money (the menus were effectively paid for by sponsorship or advertising and the drinks given free). But after 9/11 BA decided they wanted to reduce the amount of cabin crew in the economy cabin by one and had to come up with concessions with the cabin crew union to reduce the workload of the remaining crew (like handing out menus).
AA767LOVER From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2007, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 20927 times:
Actually, I found the seat to be quite comfortable. I could actually sleep on BA on the LHR-HKG route, but had a hard time sleeping from DTW-NRT or NRT-MSP on a 744 on NW. I had only flown NW and UA 744's and one Canadian 744 from YVR-HKG. Beside that, I can't recall other experiences. BA was the best 744 experience, even in Cattle Class.
J.I. Tsui, American Advantage Member, United Mileage Plus (Premier)
Readytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 4283 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 19239 times:
Nice report, great photos.
I do admire you being able to Y class, have not been there in over ten years.
I must have those creature comforts to keep this old body happy.
I bet that Bacardi sure helped the trip along.
you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
Richcandy From France, joined Aug 2001, 850 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 18479 times:
I have not flown BA in economy for a while. I flew American from London to New York in Jan. I know that airline meals are not great but American's economy class long haul food makes BA's look like fine dining.
I know what you mean about fatty meat. I have a friend who says that all the flavour is in the fat. (makes me feel sick just to think about eating the fat)
If UA start to charge for food on their IAD-Europe flights I wonder how long it will be before everyone does this? Economy long haul becomes more and more basic.
It was the fastest 9 hour flight I've ever had... I need to drink more on flights
Quoting Richcandy (Reply 13): If UA start to charge for food on their IAD-Europe flights I wonder how long it will be before everyone does this?
Hopefully airlines that are profitable, like BA, EK, QF, SQ and their ilk will never do that.
Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 17): Interesting they let you consume alcohol not served onboard... or is that just a USA policy?
The Cabin Crew turned a blind eye. On one of my Coke runs, the crew member in the galley said something about taking it easy, and I said not to worry, we'd be completely fine. He said, "That's what they all say!" - needless to say, we were okay. He looked like he could have used a drink I have to say
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4365 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 17250 times:
I see... thanks. Thinking of BA for my next trip to London to try out their long haul service and T5. My last trip to London I wanted to try T5 and BA, but it was 3 weeks after T5 opened and decided against comiting myself to a nightmare.