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BCN-MAD-ZRH-MUC: UX Shuttle Meets Swiss Quality  
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8776 times:

BCN-MAD-ZRH-MUC: Air Europa Shuttle Meets Swiss Quality



Intro
Air Europa's 737-800, Swiss' A320 and Swiss European's Avro RJ100 are in the focus of this report - completing the coverage about my latest trip to Spain. All those who want to read about the background of this trip or have missed part one (Spanair MD-87 & Vueling A320) simply need to click here:
MUC-MAD-BCN: Star MD-87 & The Pain Of Vueling



Sunday, 13 July 2008
Barcelona (BCN) - Madrid (MAD)
Air Europa, UX2153
09:15-10:30 (09:24-10:40)
Flying time: 00:54 (hrs)

Boeing 737-883
EC-IXO (s/n 634), first delivered to SAS in 08/2000 as SE-DTN
Seat 30F



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Former appearances as LN-RPO and EI-CXP:


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Quick Check-in
In less than three minutes after entering the terminal it was clear the two Air Europa check-in kiosks were out of order, so I had no choice but to line up in queue. However, waiting time was minimal and a friendly female agent welcomed me at the counter. She willingly accepted my request for the second last row and handed the boarding pass to me.

I passed security, bought something for breakfast and went to my (bus) gate. Boarding was started about 40 minutes prior to departure. Even though the bus was already well filled, it didn't move. Again and again passengers showed up and tried to enter - in the end we were packed as sardines when the driver finally hit the road. And it wasn't just cramped - several pax had apparently eaten garlic on the day before. What a disgusting bus ride...  embarrassed 

Some minutes later the bus stopped next to EC-IXO, a former SAS plane, plastered with large Vodafone markings:




Cabin Comfort
After being welcomed by a friendly FA I sat down in row 30. The cabin is equipped with slate blue leather seats which are quite comfortable.


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Although the seats don't belong to the latest generation of slimline models...



...pitch is sufficient. While the cabin appeared to be clean in general, my seatback was a bit dirty. The same goes for the windows - which made it more difficult to take pictures.



Just as I assumed boarding would be completed, another bus load of passengers entered the cabin. In the end the load factor was in the 75 percent range, but the two seats next to me remained empty. EC-IXO was not equipped with foldout screens - but it's an ex-SAS plane, so I don't know about the factory new models in the UX fleet.

Departure
We left the gate a bit late and finally entered runway 25L for a powerful takeoff.



BCN's ATC tower...



...and the new terminal:



We climbed out over the Mediterranean Sea and then turned right.



Just like numerous carriers in these days, Air Europa offers snacks and drinks for sale, at mostly reasonable prices. However, shortly after having had breakfast, I didn't order anything. The remaining flight was uneventful, time for landing:



Ten minutes behind schedule we stopped at the gate at Terminal 2. Now I had some 4,5 hours left before leaving again on Swiss - I decided to stay in this area for spotting for about two more hours.



Sunday, 13 July 2008
Madrid (MAD) - Zurich (ZRH)
Swiss, LX2027
15:20-17:30 (15:22-17:25)
Flying time: 01:42 (hrs)

Airbus A320-214
HB-IJP "Nollen 733m" (MSN 681), first delivered to Swissair in 05/1997
Seat 35F



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Former appearance in Swissair colors:


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Check-in Confusion
More than 2,5 hours prior to departure I left the gate area and went to the check-in area in Terminal 1. The hall was packed with travellers and I tried to get my boarding passes as soon as possible. First of all, I went straight to the Lufthansa check-in kiosks. I had a LH booking code which had also enabled me to check in online for the MUC-MAD flight operated by Spanair. However, this time the computer rejected my code - and then a friendly agent explained to me it wouldn't be possible to check in for Swiss flights at Madrid using LH booking codes.

So I proceeded to the Swiss check-in counters (as shown on the departures screen). There were two queues in front of the two counters and people were apparently being checked in. One screen showed a Norwegian logo (but a Norwegian flight had just departed), the other one showed the airport company's logo. However, a sign on the wall just behind the counters showed several Swiss flight numbers. And the two agents' uniforms contained red and white parts, so I assumed they would work for Swiss or at least Swissport and would check in for Swiss. However, after waiting for 10 minutes and finally presenting my ID, one of the agents behind the counters said something like "no Swiss" and other stuff - it took me a while to realize it was "Jet2" and "Leeds". But there weren't any Jet2 signs anywhere, for whatever reason. Another agent then told me the Swiss check-in (at these counters) wouldn't open until two hours before departure. Wow, another 30 minutes to wait in a cramped and sticky area without enough seats...  Yeah sure
In the end they started some 15 minutes earlier. The agent checked my ID and nodded when I asked her for window seats in the back of the planes on both flights. One minute later I got my boarding passes and spotted a seat in row 7 on the first one, and another low number on the second. I thought the agent had understood my request? I told her my preference for back rows again and finally got what I wanted...

I used the remaining time for spotting (35 new regs at MAD on that day) and finally walked to the gate - at the very end of Terminal 1. The windows in the gate area were dirty all over, so it was hard to take a somehow acceptable picture of HB-IJP:




Cabin Comfort
After boarding started, a friendly female FA welcomed me at the door, one middle-aged male FA was a bit reserved. The cabin, equipped with dark slimline leather seats, was in perfect shape and spotlessly clean.


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Since the gate had been crowded it was no surprise that the plane was apparently completely full (at least in Eco). Even the middle seat next to me was occupied this time. But the seats were comfortable and pitch was absolutely sufficient:



The cabin was also equipped with foldout video screens which showed the flight path most of the time, as well as some TV features.


Shaky Departure
We left the gate almost on time and taxied all across the airport to runway 36R, passing Air Comet A340-312 EC-KHU (ex-Air France).



HB-IJP lifted off after a rather long takeoff roll and was immediately hit by turbulence - which some people in front of me seemed to be a bit surprised about.  Wink




Snack & Drinks
Shortly after takeoff FAs began the preparations to serve snacks and drinks. A smell of baked goods was passing through the cabin and some minutes later we got a pastry made of ciabatta-like bread, filled with a mix of (non fatty) cream cheese and spinach - it tasted very good.



I ordered an orange juice and the friendly FA immediately asked me whether I also wanted a hot drink, coffee or tea. Later in the flight they also offered the famous Swiss chocolate bars.

Greetings from the Cockpit
After we had already entered Swiss airspace...



...one of the pilots introduced himself ("I am your pilot") on the speaker with a nice Swiss-German accent and informed us about some flight details and the remaining flying time. After his German speech he also addressed the passengers in English and French. Some 10 minutes later were already on approach...



...and touched down on runway 14. Belair 757 in Air Berlin colors:





Sunday, 13 July 2008
Zurich (ZRH) - Munich (MUC)
Swiss European, LX1110
19:05-20:00 (19:00-19:54)
Flying time: 00:42 (hrs)

Avro RJ100
HB-IYZ "Tour d'Ai 2331m" (MSN 3338), first delivered to Crossair in 11/1998
Seat 19A



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Easy Transfer
Transferring at ZRH was very convenient - it took me only some 20 minutes to go to my gate. I took a seat and got a total of 16 new registrations during the relatively short period of time. Finally HB-IYZ turned in - good to see we wouldn't have to take a bus to the aircraft.




Cabin Comfort
Again friendly FAs welcomed me at the door. Just like on the A320, the cabin was equipped with dark slimline leather seats - and what's most important: Swiss European has installed a spacious 2-3 configuration, in contrast to the 3-3 layout on LH CityLine and Eurowings.


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Seat pitch is absolutely sufficient. Additionally, there's plenty of shoulder space - and the left foot can be placed to the left of the seat frame.



Even though a lady sat down on the aisle seat next to me, I didn't feel cramped. Overall seating comfort was better than on the A320. However, the air in the cabin wasn't the freshest...

Turbulence
HB-IYZ left the gate early at 19:00...



...and took off powerfully only seven minutes later from runway 28. Left turn...



...over Zurich's city center:



The flight has been shaky from the very beginning, but it was still possible to serve drinks. It's nice to get drinks on such a short hop, but the FAs' job is not an easy one. I ordered an orange juice while the lady next to me ordered water and a cup of coffee. Right after we had received the stuff, more intensive turbulences hit the plane and I quickly drank the juice. In contrast, the lady didn't show any intention to finish her coffee...so I was already preparing for a nasty spillage.  Yeah sure Luckily, it didn't happen in the end.
Some minutes later the FAs offered the Swiss chocolate bars - really a nice touch one could get used to. After approaching through a layer of thick clouds...



...HB-IYZ touched down on MUC's runway 26L only 42 minutes after takeoff. We taxied around the southern end of Terminal 2 and stopped right in front of the building - but unlike at ZRH we had to walk through the rain to a bus. And the bus drove all the way up to the northern end of the Terminal building. At least I could get some more registrations during that journey...  Wink



Conclusion
Flying Air Europa was easy and convenient, check-in was fast, ground staff and FAs were friendly, seating comfort was sufficient. I wouldn't hesitate to try UX on longer routes, too. However, the website needs to be improved. The booking process can be confusing for non-Spanish speakers (I had switched to another travel agency's website for booking).
Flying Swiss was a pleasure - friendly FAs, good catering, clean cabins, comfortable seats. ZRH is a convenient airport for transfers - and definitely spotter-friendly. However, there's room for improvement in terms of check-in, at least at MAD. Anyway, I will definitely fly Swiss again, probably when the new A330-300s enter into service.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
18 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineDjb77 From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 8722 times:

Dear PlaneHunter,
Thanks for sharing your recent experiences on UX and LX. I also really enjoy LX flights but there was one thing I wanted to ask you: Where did you get the names of the two LX aircraft you flew on "Tour d'Ai 2331m" and "Nollen 733m"? I recently took two LX flights and the aircraft names are missing in my log - I noticed that SR aircraft had names, but I hadn't noticed that the LX aircraft did also.
Many thanks for any information you can share...
djb77


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8457 times:



Quoting Djb77 (Reply 1):
Where did you get the names of the two LX aircraft you flew on "Tour d'Ai 2331m" and "Nollen 733m"? I recently took two LX flights and the aircraft names are missing in my log - I noticed that SR aircraft had names, but I hadn't noticed that the LX aircraft did also.

Hi Dbj77, the names can be found in the jp airline fleets book and on several websites. One example:
http://www.charliebravo.de/lhtaufnamen/

While I couldn't see the name on the RJ100, I spotted the "Nollen 733m" markings when I entered the A320's cabin. Two years ago, LX started switching to city names again, so the mountain names will be history sooner or later.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8449 times:

Wonderful photos.

This was a pleasure to read.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5012 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8366 times:

Hi, PH,

what a nice airline/aircraft combination and a good read.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
- several pax had apparently eaten garlic on the day before. What a disgusting bus ride...

 alert  Also not what I need especially in the morning.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Belair 757 in Air Berlin colors:

Well known, from two days later on!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
HB-IYZ "Tour d'Ai 2331m"

And also well known from last years
BUD-BSL and BSL-NCE flights.
I remember comfy seats and that nice 2/3 seating, if you´re on the "good" side!.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8240 times:

Hi PH,

it was nice to read about your experiences on your return flights as well. Again an interesting combination of airlines and aircraft.

Food on the Swiss-flight MAD-ZRH looks good - something hot is always nice.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
And it wasn't just cramped - several pax had apparently eaten garlic on the day before.

 boggled   scared 

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Finally HB-IYZ turned in - good to see we wouldn't have to take a bus to the aircraft.

I guess you were lucky as the Avro-fleet is usually parked on the apron at ZRH, at least according to my experiences. But maybe this changes in the evening when there aren't too many larger aircraft departing.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8062 times:

Thanks for your comments, UAL757, Markus and Christoph.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
I remember comfy seats and that nice 2/3 seating, if you´re on the "good" side!.

Hopefully LX will keep that configuration.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 5):
I guess you were lucky as the Avro-fleet is usually parked on the apron at ZRH, at least according to my experiences. But maybe this changes in the evening when there aren't too many larger aircraft departing.

That makes sense, interesting to know.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8430 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7978 times:
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Hi there PH,

Great report and pictures, really enjoyed the trip.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
in the end we were packed as sardines when the driver finally hit the road. And it wasn't just cramped - several pax had apparently eaten garlic on the day before. What a disgusting bus ride...

- Yikes, I can imagine that was really nasty faint 

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
used the remaining time for spotting (35 new regs at MAD on that day)

- Impressive, I need to retun there.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I took a seat and got a total of 16 new registrations during the relatively short period of time.


- Impressive too, amde about 10 in about an hour the other week  Smile

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3415 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7946 times:

Servus again PH!

I was eagerly awaiting this one, and you didnt let me down. A good read with great pics as always. It seems that LX upgraded their service on intra-european flights, and it was about time! I got a bit bored of the same sandwiches they always used to serve, and its good to hear that they're serving something warm again. It looked pretty good too! Glad you enjoyed your flights on LX, and I hope you'll be back  Wink

Handling outsourcing always seems to be a bit tricky at outstations, especially at MAD's ancient T1 where they dont really have a choice, however, check-in opening 2 hours prior to departure isn't unusual  Wink

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 5):

I guess you were lucky as the Avro-fleet is usually parked on the apron at ZRH, at least according to my experiences. But maybe this changes in the evening when there aren't too many larger aircraft departing.

Actually, it is indeed not unusual to see AVROs parked at the Terminal A jetties during non LX rushours. However, during rushour, the Terminal is packed with Airbusses and thus it's virtually impossible to see an AVRO parked there.

Thanks again for the nice read, always good to hear that my future colleagues are doing it right  Smile


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7822 times:

Thanks for your comments, Mark and Sandro.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 7):
- Impressive, I need to retun there.

Indeed, MAD is always worth a visit.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
Thanks again for the nice read, always good to hear that my future colleagues are doing it right



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
Glad you enjoyed your flights on LX, and I hope you'll be back

I'll be back, no doubts! When will you start flying on scheduled routes?


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7789 times:

Swiss are very good on short haul flights. It's the long haul that is the problem.

User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3415 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7746 times:



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
I'll be back, no doubts! When will you start flying on scheduled routes?

If everything goes as planned, in fall 2009 (september/october), but that largely depends when the typerating starts, or in other words: A320 Simulator availability!


User currently offlineInfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1424 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7645 times:

Nice report, always good to read about positive experiences on LX. The ciabatta you got served looked nice too, makes a change from the ubiquitous cheese roll....

Happy flying
Infodesk



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User currently offlineTaichen From Spain, joined Jul 2001, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7549 times:

I used Air Europa for the first time last summer and it was a nice, refreshing surprise. Better than Spanair, IMHO.

As for Swiss, no wonder they still provide a nice, "classical" enyojable ride.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7506 times:

Thanks for all new comments!

Quoting Semsem (Reply 10):
It's the long haul that is the problem.

Haven't tried LX long-haul yet - what specific problem are you referring to?

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 11):
If everything goes as planned, in fall 2009 (september/october), but that largely depends when the typerating starts, or in other words: A320 Simulator availability!

I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 12):
The ciabatta you got served looked nice too, makes a change from the ubiquitous cheese roll....

...or dull sandwiches e.g. served on JK.  Wink

Quoting Taichen (Reply 13):
I used Air Europa for the first time last summer and it was a nice, refreshing surprise. Better than Spanair, IMHO.

As I said, I'd like to try UX on longer routes, too. Some things are hard to judge from a short BCN-MAD hop.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1194 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 7491 times:

Hola PH!

I have read both your reports with interest.

Thanks for posting them.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Again and again passengers showed up and tried to enter - in the end we were packed as sardines when the driver finally hit the road

I do not know what is wrong with these people. If another bus was following why cage passengers there. Too bad!

UX is a pretty good airline, although they were the first to start BOB menus on their routes in Spain, once the uproar went down the other two: IB and JK followed.

Salut!

Roger



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3415 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 7486 times:



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
Haven't tried LX long-haul yet - what specific problem are you referring to?

There's nothing wrong with them really. Semsem is famous for whining about LX on every occasion possible, god knows what they might have done to him, but he's not credible anymore. If you read some of the LX longhaul reports here, you'll notice that people seem to be quite satisified with the product.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Thanks  Wink


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26506 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7464 times:

Great report and nice photos . Whenever I see a LX report it brings a smile to my face.

Thanks

OA260

PS. The new BCN Terminal looks nice. When does it open?



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7364 times:

Thanks for your comments, Roger, Sandro and Phil!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 15):
UX is a pretty good airline, although they were the first to start BOB menus on their routes in Spain, once the uproar went down the other two: IB and JK followed.

Interesting - did UX also start onboard sales on international routes before IB?

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 16):
If you read some of the LX longhaul reports here, you'll notice that people seem to be quite satisified with the product.

Yes, that's my impression, too. I will definitely try to get on one of their new A333s.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
PS. The new BCN Terminal looks nice. When does it open?

I heard it's planned to open in early 2009.


PH



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