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CO BusinessFirst - Non-rev LHR-IAH/EWR-LHR (pics)  
User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 14220 times:

Hello folks!

I’ve been on A.net for a while. I used to write loads of trip reports on another travel web-site, but this is my first attempt at writing one for airliners.net.

With the recent introduction of ‘Open Skies’ between the US and the EU, I decided it was time to take some non-rev trips. This report will cover two sectors – London Heathrow to Houston George Bush Intercontinental, and Newark Liberty International back to London Heathrow.

London Heathrow to Houston George Bush Intercontinental. (LHR-IAH)
Flight Number: CO33
Cabin: BusinessFirst
Seats: 1K/1L
STD: 0830 / ATD: 0821
STA: 1305 / ATA: 1255
Aircraft: Boeing 767-224ER
Registration: N69154


I had worked the night before, finishing at 11pm, so I figured I’d be able to get some decent sleep on this flight, as it’s scheduled to take 10 hours and 35 minutes. My wife and I used CO’s online check-in the day before, and received seats in Y class, 21D and 21F. I knew the load was light though, so I wasn’t concerned about not getting J class.

We woke-up at 5am, and were in a cab to the airport by 6am, arriving at Heathrow Terminal 4 by 6.15am. After being asked to use the Elite Access line, we checked-in our two bags and proceeded airside. As we both had Priority Pass cards, we popped in to the KLM Hollideck, opposite gate 11. It’s not the nicest of lounges, but does provide a quiet place for a couple of non-revs to rest in, whilst waiting to board an early departure.

Boarding was called at 0750hrs, so we had another quick coffee, then walked back to gate 21, where we were the last people to board, at 8.05am! The gate agent gave us new boarding passes for seats 1K and 1L on this 767-operated service. Hurrah!

We were warmly welcomed onboard by the ISM and a crew member at the aircraft door. As soon as we took our seats in the front row of the airplane, the crew descended upon us, offering pre-departure beverages, CO’s new Escents Aromatherapy amenity kit, menu’s and newspapers.

I seem to have mislaid the menu, but the photographs should hopefully do justice! Push-back commenced early at 0821hrs, and we managed to just push ahead of the Delta 767-300ER on gate 20, heading to JFK at 0830. We had a quick taxi out to runway 09R and after a very short take-off roll, we were airborne at 0840. Our route today took us due west along the M4 corridor, over Wales, across the southern tip of Ireland, across the North Atlantic, making land-fall over St John’s, heading across to Windsor, Ontario; before making a left turn and heading south over Michigan, down to Texas and straight in to Houston Intercontinental.

The meal service started about 30 minutes after departure, with the aircraft en-route to an initial cruise altitude of 30,000 feet. I chose the beef/veal Chefs Selection. My wife had the pasta.

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Cran-apple Cocktail, water, Chardonnay, garlic bread, warm mixed nuts.

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A demitasse of sweet chili soup with marinated shrimp, accompanied by a chicken breast, bell pepper and olive skewer and a vegetable spring roll with Asian-style sauce

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Mesclun salad mix tossed with sun-dried tomatoes, walnuts, orange segments and mozzarella cheese, with a creamy dill dressing

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“The Chefs Selection” - Seared tenderloin fillets of veal and beef with porcini mushroom sauce, sautéed shiitake mushrooms and rosemary potatoes. A side dish of buttered carrot batons and sugar snap peas

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My wife’s pasta dish - Cannelloni filled with ricotta cheese, artichoke hearts and spinach, accented by spring onions sautéed in balsamic vinegar and Murgese sauce, a fresh mushroom tomato sauce, accompanied by freshly grated Parmesan cheese

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Fresh seasonal fruit, assorted gourmet crackers and rolls, served with Port wine

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Vanilla Ice Cream Sundae, with hot fudge sauce, caramel sauce, whipped cream and a maraschino cherry on the top. Coffee, Chablis and a glass of Grand Marnier.

I was used to the meal service in BA Club World, having non-revved on BA for the last four years, so I was quite surprised at the amount of food they provide on Continental. Whilst the food is plentiful and the quality is top-notch, the design on the plates looks a little old-fashioned these days, what with swirls of pink and grey. I do like the food being individually plated in the galley and not served in casserole dishes, a la BA and AA in thier respective J-class products.

After the huge meal, we still had around 8 hours to go, so my wife and I settled back in our seats to watch some movies, read, listen to our iPods and generally kill time for the remainder of the flight.

Somewhere over Canada, I noticed the engines spool-up a little and we climbed up to 40,000 feet. Unfortunately, we could only manage a ground speed of less than 500mph, which makes for a long flight!

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493mph at 40,000ft seems pretty slow...

We watched some movies, slept a while, chatted, slept, used the bathroom and did all the normal stuff that bored people do every day on long flights across the Atlantic!

Finally, 1 hour before departure, it was time for more food – aka – the pre-arrival snack.

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Hot-smoked salmon, with a creamy dill dipping sauce. A hot open sandwich, with beef tenderloin tips, sauteed onions, provolone cheese and a cherry tomato. Side garnish of a pickle, a baby onion, olive and cherry tomato. A selection of fresh fruit and chocolate.

The snack was really delicious – the dill dipping sauce perfectly complimented the hot-smoked salmon, and the hot sandwich was absolutely spot-on!

The crew left the 2nd meal service a bit late though – about 5 minutes after it was served, the nose of the airplane dropped and the flight deck announced that due to favourable winds, we would be landing in 40 minutes time.

We ate-up, then got ourselves ready for arrival into Houston. Touchdown was early, at 1243 local time, and we were on the gate (E4) at 1255 local, 10 minutes ahead of schedule.

For a first trip on CO, the service was spot-on. The seat, whilst not a flat-bed on the 767-200ER, is good enough for a daylight service. The width, at 21 inches, makes for a very comfortable seat, compared to BA Club World and AA Business Class. All-in-all, a great first CO non-rev experience!

Newark Liberty Airport to London Heathrow Airport. (EWR-LHR)
Flight Number: CO18
Cabin: BusinessFirst
Seats: 5K/5L (Moved to 1K/1L)
STD: 0900 / ATD: 0858
STA: 2115 / ATA: 2113
Aircraft: Boeing 767-224ER
Registration: N69154


This was to be our second ride on N69154, after a fun 6 day trip to Manhattan, staying at the gorgeous Waldorf=Astoria. We had checked-in the night before, via CO’s online check-in, and stayed at the Marriott Newark Liberty the night before, due to the early departure time of CO18.

Upon arrival at Terminal C, we checked one of our carry-on bags in, due to the purchase of some liquids whilst in New York. The agent advised us to pass through the employee security line, which was much appreciated, due to the huge lines at the main security check-points. After running the TSA gauntlet, we made our way to gate C120, ready for boarding at 0820hrs. The gate agent was a bit moody, even more so when he spotted us chatting with the cabin crew. Still, he gave us 5K/5L up front, which was greatly appreciated. Two seats in the back row of BusinessFirst.

Upon boarding, the crew asked us if we’d like to move to 1K/1L, and so it was that we managed to sit in the same seats on the same airplane for the second time!

Push-back was bang-on time, and I noticed that we were parked next to ship 20, CO’s newest 777-224ER. She was due to operate the Beijing service later that morning.

We pushed back 2 minutes early, and taxied out to the departure runway.

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A view from seat 1L en-route to the active, with a company 757-200 about to land

We were airborne at 0910, and commenced a sharp right turn, to head across Manhattan.

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Newark Liberty Airport, as we climbed through 5000 feet. The southern tip of Manhattan Island can be seen in the top-left of the picture.

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Another shot of Liberty Airport, from a different angle. Notice the Verrazano suspension bridge in the distance.

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Climbing over lady Liberty

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JFK from 9000 feet

Brunch service commenced soon after take off. We were used to these seats and the service routine, so we pulled-out our tray-tables, ready for the crew to serve us an ‘Early Lunch’. Very early, at half-past nine in the morning! Today, I chose the Brunch Entrée, whilst my wife chose the Halibut.

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The start of lunch - Warm roasted nuts with your preferred cocktail or beverage

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A demitasse of wild mushroom soup accompanied by cheese and spinach filled pastry and mini crab cake with savory rémoulade sauce

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Mesclun salad mix and romaine lettuce with baby pear and pecans

Your choice of champagne vinaigrette or blue cheese dressing

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brunch entree

Swiss cheese omelette with potato gratin, grilled smoked pork loin, turkey sausage, sautéed button mushrooms, French toast, syrup and warm croissants with butter and strawberry preserves

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My wifes’ Herb-crusted Halibut

With shellfish sauce, julienne squash, roasted carrots and parsnips and sautéed baby spinach

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FRUIT AND CHEESE cart

Select American and imported cheeses, fresh seasonal fruit, assorted gourmet crackers and bread, served with Port wine

(I passed on the cheese and crackers)

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Edy’s Classic Grand vanilla ice cream with choice of toppings

Fresh Brew® gourmet roasted regular and decaffeinated coffee made exclusively for Continental Airlines

A selection of teas with your choice of milk or lemon

After our huge brunch, we settled down to get some sleep before arrival back home in London. You know you’re tired when you don’t even bother with the IFE, and simply put your iPod and noise-cancelling headset on and just ‘veg’ out for the rest of the trip!

Our route today took us over Manhattan, up to Boston, onward to Halifax, St Johns, then straight across the Atlantic, making landfall over south Wales, before heading down the M4, across to East London, before doing a 180-turn and heading down the Thames, before arrival on 27L.

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Nearly home….

50 minutes before arrival into LHR, the second meal service was presented –

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Pre-arrival Refreshment

Fresh seasonal fruit

smoked chicken piadina

Grilled Italian flatbread with sliced smoked chicken, grilled red and green bell peppers, onions, Mozzarella cheese and smoky provolone cheese sauce accompanied by a pickle, kalamata olive and cherry tomato

Chocolate

Fresh Brew® gourmet roasted regular and decaffeinated coffee made exclusively for Continental Airlines

A selection of teas with your choice of milk or lemon

The food in CO’s BusinessFirst product is really decent. Massive portions, good presentation and the best thing is the really positive crew attitude at CO, which is like a breath of fresh air!

We touched down early on runway 27L at 2050hrs, but then had to hold for an Air Malta A320 to clear our stand, which was gate 21, as is often used for CO’s night-stopping aircraft.

Finally, we arrived on chocks at 2113hrs, 2 minutes early. Good work CO!

After using IRIS to clear immigration, we picked-up our bag within 5 minutes and we were on the tube by 2130hrs. Not bad eh? 17 minutes from on-blocks to on-the-tube! We were back home in our apartment by 2200hrs. A right result!

Thanks for reading folks, I’ll happily answer any questions!

29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16858 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 14072 times:

Excellent trip report, I have a BusinessFirst trip coming up on a CO 767-400 so you showed me what I might expect.

Thanks.



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User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13936 times:

Great TR!! OMG the food looks sooooo good! It looks really good lol!


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User currently offlineCAP2008 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13785 times:

Great TR. Looks like you had a good trip with CO, too bad they're leaving skyteam  Sad. A bit strange they didn't serve a breakfast dish on the LHR-IAH leg with that early of a departure, but neither was the case in J on NW101 which departs LHR to DTW at 0850.


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User currently offlineUAopsMGR From Croatia, joined Mar 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13735 times:

Love the pics of EWR and the Statue of Liberty! Nice job.


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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3706 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13642 times:

Great pictures and report! Certainly beats any food I've had in BA Club World in the last few years, or even First for the matter!


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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3207 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13371 times:



Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 5):
Certainly beats any food I've had in BA Club World in the last few years, or even First for the matter!

I was thinking it looked very good too! BUT.. CO, ditch that 1980s china! You're doing the right thing with that catering (unlike many US airlines) but the ugly outdated china just lets it down completely! It's a shame because they're doing a great job with what they're offering...particularly compared to say one of their man NYC area competitors... its a great product, its just needs more modern packaging. Style is everything! And these days, you can buy great quality attractive looking cockery from China dirt cheap... so i hope somebody at CO is listening.

Great trip report!


User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13310 times:

Now if only CO could serve some edible non rubbish food in economy. I would be willing to pay a few dollars extra. When I take them I have to bring my own food.

User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8527 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13272 times:
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Nice report and photo's, thanks.

The food offerings look pretty decent, though not to keen on the massive doses of creamy dressings they seem to dump on the salads.

Don't like the shape of the glasses of the design on the plates, look rather old fashion, that aside, seems ok.

I fly Business First on one of their 764's in just over a weeks time, think I'm looking forward to it.

Quoting CAP2008 (Reply 3):
A bit strange they didn't serve a breakfast dish on the LHR-IAH leg with that early of a departure,

- I too thought that, bit early for anything heavier really, at least for mr.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 13160 times:

Thanks for all the comments folks, it's appreciated.

Quoting CAP2008 (Reply 3):
A bit strange they didn't serve a breakfast dish on the LHR-IAH leg with that early of a departure, but neither was the case in J on NW101 which departs LHR to DTW at 0850.

They do offer a breakfast (brunch) entree on the CO33 LHR-IAH, I just chose not to eat it!

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 6):
BUT.. CO, ditch that 1980s china! You're doing the right thing with that catering (unlike many US airlines) but the ugly outdated china just lets it down completely!

I totally agree. The china really does look outdated. It spoils an otherwise top-notch meal service.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
Don't like the shape of the glasses of the design on the plates, look rather old fashion, that aside, seems ok.

The glasses actually feel really nice in the hand, a little more robust that some carriers' J-class offerings. They're made by Spiegelau.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
The food offerings look pretty decent, though not to keen on the massive doses of creamy dressings they seem to dump on the salads.

It looks to be a lot, but the salads are really huge, so it turns out to be just enough! They're also really delicious. I prefer them to the bottled 'Balsamic and something random' that you get on BA/AA. Just a personal preference though.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5767 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 13080 times:



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
Don't like the shape of the glasses

If that's the best criticism a.net can come up with, then Continental surely has very little to worry about with their product.

Quoting LHR777 (Reply 9):
The china really does look outdated.



Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 6):
ditch that 1980s china!

Actually, didn't CO revise their china design just a year ago? The design used to be blue and gray (go figure- just like the rest of a CO airplane). I think the new stuff is a bit more highbrow.
In any event, I think it looks very classy. I'm not saying you're wrong not to like it- to each his own. But I think it looks quite nice. Maybe it's a tad retro, but for first class service, a retro china design harkens back to the day when service was actually spectacular... like when my grandpa flew American to Frankfurt in 1991, first class, and was served roast pheasant under glass!

And, anything 'newer' seems to mean a solid white plate with no design at all. If 'modernizing' means taking away identity, let's just skip it.


User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 13070 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 10):
In any event, I think it looks very classy. I'm not saying you're wrong not to like it- to each his own. But I think it looks quite nice. Maybe it's a tad retro, but for first class service, a retro china design harkens back to the day when service was actually spectacular... like when my grandpa flew American to Frankfurt in 1991, first class, and was served roast pheasant under glass!

And, anything 'newer' seems to mean a solid white plate with no design at all. If 'modernizing' means taking away identity, let's just skip it.

You know what? You're right. I've noticed that a lot of carrier in their premium cabins use plain white crockery these days. At least CO's crockery still stands out as being a little bit different, a little bit retro. That's not always a bad thing either. I do think the grey/pink combination on the edge of the plates/bowls looks a little bit 80's, but thinking about it, it does have a certain charm about it.


User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3207 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 12947 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 10):
And, anything 'newer' seems to mean a solid white plate with no design at all. If 'modernizing' means taking away identity, let's just skip it.

Who says it has to be white? have a look at what Cathay Pacific do with soups and things? Or how about what British Airways does with with Club Europe? The plates are actually made of a green glass?

If you stuck to white, well its also about the design, and shape of the item. Remember the emphisis is suppose to be put on the actual food itself. Qantas is one of the carriers guilty of using white... but you never get a simple round plate. Look at the coffee cups used, for example? Very unusal shape.

Here's some examples:
http://www.riversidedesigns.com/images/Splash2008.jpg

here in CX first


and SQ business:

and a simple and elegant desgin used by China Airlines
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m318/lundefredrik/ThailandDes2007394.jpg

Now from Air New Zealand




Short haul at Cathay Pacific


Some from Thai:


And how about Aeroflot


Emirates First:


anyway I think you all get the point.
My point is CO is serving the right things, they just need a more modern
way of presenting it. That pink tablecloth is so 1980s its not funny...
Right idea... wrong presentation. Remember some of the destinations CO
flies these long hauls to have the very best restaurants in the world in, and
are the heart of haute culture! It's those same people, with sophisticated palets
that can afford to pay the premiums wanted for the front cabin.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6005 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 12876 times:

Is it just me, or are they really trying hard to get you drunk with all that alcohol?  Big grin

I mean, just for a dinner service, that's a lot of alcohol!



Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun.
User currently offlineAirPortugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3613 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 12726 times:

Was that a Cape Codder on the way to LHR? or in other terms, a "cranberry juice/vodka cocktail"?

Just curious as thats my drink of choice (preferably Grey Goose L'Orange)!



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 12726 times:

Great Report! CO TR from anyone always seem to come out right, and top notch. I just wish they didn't fly RJ's out of STL, and always typically seem to be the most expensive of any airline. But if they ever get cheap I'll try them out!

Pictures were great and as always anything above Coach looks great too!


Alex



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User currently offlineIXEMCTDCA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12156 times:

I'd like to add to the appreciation for the great pictures from the take-off around New York.

I've been using Continental as my airline of choice for domestic flights this year & your review gives a great overview of what to expect on an international leg.



-ixemctdca
User currently offlineCityofAthens From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12075 times:

Very impressed with the food and service that accompanied it, according to your report.

By all accounts the food and its presentation look better than BA First, never mind Club. I am glad you enjoyed your trip with CO; here we have a US airline that appears to be breaking the mould (as far as US airline service is concerned).

I flew CO on an international route recently and was impressed by the way in which the crew came through the cabin with juice/water frequently.

I don't know why their staff seem to be more customer-focused when compared to their peers in the US - either they are more picky about who they recruit or they look after their staff well/better than anyone else or perhaps both?

I wonder how they're performing on the LHR route.


User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3222 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12043 times:

I have always loved CO food service, it is really great. I confess I have not flown with them now for over five years due to the outdated Business seat. Can not wait for the new seating to arrive and I will be back hard and fast on the transatlantic route with them.  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26913 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11989 times:

WOW much better food service than I thought. CO seem to be great . You got some great pics also .

OA260


User currently offlineLH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 11563 times:

how does it work with confirming seats for standbys on CO? if the load is light they will give you a seat assignment in Y online? and then UPG at the gate space permitting?

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5767 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11515 times:

Oh yeah, that was another thing I wanted to ask.
Flying standby international, HOW ON EARTH did you get BizFirst seats??!!!!!!?!?


User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11020 times:



Quoting LH417AF025 (Reply 20):
how does it work with confirming seats for standbys on CO? if the load is light they will give you a seat assignment in Y online? and then UPG at the gate space permitting?

Yes, that's exactly how it works. Space Available.

Quoting LHR777 (Thread starter):
My wife and I used CO’s online check-in the day before, and received seats in Y class, 21D and 21F. I knew the load was light though, so I wasn’t concerned about not getting J class.

See? We got Y class, upgraded to J at the gate.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 21):
Oh yeah, that was another thing I wanted to ask.
Flying standby international, HOW ON EARTH did you get BizFirst seats??!!!!!!?!?

Easy - you list for J class, if it's available, you get it, with non-revs being accommodated by seniority. If it's not available, you don't get it. That's how space-available employee travel works. Not all airlines allow J/F class employee travel, of course. However, most US carriers do. Do you work for AA?


User currently offlineLH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10950 times:

i know how space available travel works, but most airlines in my experience give you a seat assignment at the gate or at the ticket counter if you are lucky.

User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10929 times:



Quoting LH417AF025 (Reply 23):
i know how space available travel works

You mis-read my reply - I was addressing AA737-823. Still, no worries.  Smile

Quoting LH417AF025 (Reply 23):
most airlines in my experience give you a seat assignment at the gate or at the ticket counter if you are lucky.

It depends on the load, and whether or not the flight has been opened-up for non-rev Y class seat assignments. On our return EWR-LHR, we only got standby boarding cards, and got J class seats at the gate.


25 LH417AF025 : thats really cool. I wish more airlines did it like that. Would they ever confirm a C class seat online? what do you do for CO?
26 LHR777 : I don't know. I don't think so, because revenue upgrades are processed first, and meals have to also be available. ...a bit of this, a bit of that...
27 AA737-823 : No, I don't. I work for a company (let's leave it there) that has nonrev benefits on CO. Would I still be eligible for forward cabin nonrev travel? S
28 LHR777 : That's normally the case - only CO employees get J class standby travel, not vendors.
29 LACA773 : Thankyou for the informative TR. The next time I go across the pond, I would take CO if I had the chance or if I had to fly one of our domestic airlin
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