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AI 77L BOM-JFK-BOM (with Pics/vis)  
User currently offlineAirIndiaOne From India, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 29726 times:

Background
I was planning to visit my sister who stays in Manhattan. My initial plan was to take off from work and be there in the mid-month of July. But considering the 4th of July long weekend along with the scenario at workplace, I finalized my holiday duration from 3rd July to 18th July.
I was keen on flying the AI 77L and was looking for good deals. Fellow members Vivek & Karan might recall my telephone call, seeking ‘good travel agents’. After a few calls here & there and looking up the net, I finally got the best deal online at Travelocity !!
On 2nd July, I left early from work & did my last minute packing. I estimated the drive from Chembur to Sahar to take 90 mins considering the slow moving traffic on the WE highway.

At the airport
As being discussed here , MIAL has restricted the entry to Terminal 2 from the flyover that was used earlier. Instead, the route now is to climb up from the left side of Terminal 2 (this goes along the AI hangar) and travel across what earlier was 2C (now Gate A) and onto 2A.

After saying my good-byes to my folks, I entered the terminal building at about 2210 and proceeded towards baggage screening. There were just about 5-6 people in front and the screening was finished in less than 5 minutes. I observed that none of the bags were being tagged with ‘The Nonstop’ tag.

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There were 3 counters for AI 140 and each had about 1-2 persons in the line. There was some problem with the tag printer and I had to stand for about 15 minutes before my turn came. The check-in agent apologized for the delay and asked for my passport & ticket. I was also asked to write the local address in NYC where I would be staying. I was issued my boarding pass and the customs form.

I made a quick call to my folks and then went onto clearing the customs. I was asked about my purpose of travel and the whole procedure was over in about 5 minutes. I then cleared the security check, went down the escalators and through the duty-free. There is a lot of construction activity going on inside Terminal 2 and im sure the revamped terminal will really look world-class.

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I roamed around a bit, observing the numerous lounges & gates as it was my first time here.

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At about 2340 I proceeded towards Gate 8 where my hand baggage & shoes were scanned again. I sat down and waited for the boarding announcement. The boarding call was announced at about 0000 hours.

Onward Leg:
Flight: AI 0141
Sector: BOM - JFK
Aircraft: Boeing 777 – 237/LR
Reg: VT-ALE
Load: 50%
STD: 0045
ATD: 0110
STA: 0710
ATA: 0655


I had requested for a window seat at check-in but changed by seat to an aisle one. Most passengers were senior citizens, supposedly visiting their grand-children in US. The push-back started at about 0050 and we started our taxi towards RWY 27.

A small flight amenity kit was provided in economy which consisted of socks, a small bottle (I didn’t bother to check what it contained), face napkin and an eye-mask. While taxing, the flight safety demonstration was played on the PTVs and the big screens above the aisles were off. I was hoping to catch the take-off video from the front camera but this didn’t happen.

As we started rolling on the runway, one of the overhead bins opened and a small bag hung half out of the bin. This was scary as it could have easily harmed the pax sitting below. There was no action taken by the FA’s and few seconds after the take-off, the pax himself stood up and closed the bin.

Flight service started about 45 minutes after take-off. At this time, half the passengers had already slept. I chose the vegetarian meal which consisted of rice, biryani, aloo-gobi & a sweet. Sorry folks, didn’t take any picture of the nice Indian food that was served onboard.
I decided to check out the IFE system. I found the touch screen’s response to be a little slow, but overall AI has a nice range of movie & music collection on board.

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Due to poor loads, every alternate row of seats was occupied by only one pax. Such lucky people got to enjoy a flat-bed by removing the two arm-rests & using the three seats as a nice comfy bed! I on the other hand had only the option to recline. I then put on some instrumental music & dozed off. After a while, I woke up after some time to use the bathroom. I then decided to click a few random pictures of the cabin.

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View of the front right side of economy

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Later in the flight, we were served continental breakfast. Further in the flight, self-service had begun and passengers were helping themselves with cold-drinks, nuts, juices etc from the stow area.

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I spent my time listening to the wide variety of music & watching the hindi flick ‘Life in a Metro’. There was another full meal service later on. This time I chose non-vegetarian. This included chicken, plain rice, peas alongwith curd, sweets and papad.

After a few hours, we started to descend & I got hold of a window seat. Armed with my camera, I started to click the view that I had from my seat.

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We touched down on RWY 22L at about 0640, about 30 minutes early. The taxi route was long and it took about 15 minutes to reach our designated bay at Terminal 4.

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Video of the landing at JFK

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VT-ALB standing at the tarmac next to VS

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View of the apron from the terminal building

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El-Al getting ready for departure

I had a really good experience overall in the 773. Baggage clearance was quick & after clearing customs & the security procedures, I was out in another 30 minutes.

Return Leg:
Flight: AI 0140
Sector: JFK - BOM
Aircraft: Boeing 777 – 237/LR
Reg: VT-ALA
Load: 90%
STD: 2130
ATD: 2140
STA: 2245
ATA: 2135


After having spent 16 odd days in NYC, having a ball of time, it was time to head back home. I had registered for a pickup service that got me to JFK at about 1910. I entered the terminal building & located the AI counter. There were about 3 counters for AI 140 and there was a huge line in front of me.

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By the time I reached the counter, it was 1930. I observed that out of the three counters, two were operated by trainees who were being trained & supervised by more experienced staff. After a long wait, I got my boarding card just on the basis of my passport. They did not ask for my ticket. I noticed that the boarding time printed was 2030, 75 minutes before departure.

I noticed that there were signs put up by TSA, instructing passengers to not lock their bags. It was mentioned that TSA, if required, had the rights to break open your bags if they were locked. I unlocked the bags and deposited my bags for screening.
I decided to check out the terminal and went around looking to buy some chocolates. I killed some time roaming around and spending time with my sister.

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Till about 2100, there was no announcement for boarding. There was a long queue at the security check & I decided to go ahead.

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I boarded the flight at about 2130 & the gates were closed in another few minutes. I was expecting the loads to be the same as my onward journey but was surprised to see that the flight was almost full.

I discovered that my aisle seat had no foot massager. I called the in-flight manager & asked for an explanation. The most he did was bend down, verify its absence & walked away saying that this seat indeed has no foot massager.

We started our pushback & taxi and this time they had the nose cam video broadcasting on the LCD panels. After a long taxi, we started rolling. As strange as it may sound, there was again an instance of the overhead bin opening mid-way during take-off. But the pax sitting below took instant action by unbuckling his seat belt, standing up & closing the bin.
All through the flight, I noticed that the FA’s were not allowing any of the passengers to keep the window shutter open. The reason might be that they wanted the mood-lighting to be effective.

Somehow the duration of the return leg did not feel that long. I spent most of the time sleeping.

Before I could even digest the fact that my vacation was over, it was announced that we have started our descent into Mumbai. Thankfully, it wasn’t a cloudy day and the front camera gave a fantastic view of the approach into Mumbai.

The aircraft touched down well before its ETA and we reached our assigned gate.

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View of the First Class section

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The queue at immigration was terribly long and it took about 45 minutes to clear it & claim my bags.

This is my first trip report. I’ll be glad to receive your feedback / comments.


"You don't have to be crazy to be in aviation, but it helps", JRD Tata
25 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 29683 times:

Nice report! I flew JFK-BOM last year in Nov and had fantastic flight since partly because I had three seats to myself. It was a very nice experience on AI and highly recommend AI over EK at least when it comes to the 77L.

The777Man



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User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2959 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 29644 times:

Excellent TR!. Good tot know that the loads were good on the return sector.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 29098 times:

Great TR and nice pics. The new AI product is top class. Thanks for the report.

OA260


User currently offlineMxp From Italy, joined Aug 2003, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 29021 times:

Hi
very nice TR. I was happy to see photos of the cabin,because when i flew last June JFK-LHR with AI the kind FA told me to cancel every photos of inside airplane and outside because was prohibited taking shots on AI( fortunately i just changed my cards so i was able to keep anyway a lot of photos )
Alberto


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8503 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 28875 times:
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Nice report and pictures, really enjoyed it, thanks.

Quoting AirIndiaOne (Thread starter):
discovered that my aisle seat had no foot massager. I called the in-flight manager & asked for an explanation. The most he did was bend down, verify its absence & walked away saying that this seat indeed has no foot massager.

- So funny, really made me laugh.

I'm not keen on 777's so the 773, 77L & 77W are still missing from my flight log, I'm quite tempted to take the AI 773 from LHR-JFK during the off season, AI seems to have an improved product these days.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 28452 times:

Excellent TR! This really makes me want to try out the AI 77L. It's also nice to see the loads seem to have improved over what I heard (20-30% full). The F and J class looks very impressive as well.

User currently offlineVivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 28304 times:

Excellent Trip Report!! Nice pics.....Missed the meal pics though. Good to see that AI has kept its standards high  Smile

- Vivek


User currently offlineAirIndiaOne From India, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 28238 times:



Quoting The777Man (Reply 1):
because I had three seats to myself

Thats the luxury you enjoy when flying on low load flight [ Smile]

Quoting Ojas (Reply 2):
Excellent TR



Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):
Great TR and nice pics. The new AI product is top class. Thanks for the report.



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 6):
Excellent TR! This really makes me want to try out the AI 77L

Thanks for the appreciation. The AI 77L experience is worth a try.

Quoting Vivekman2006 (Reply 7):
Excellent Trip Report!! Nice pics.....Missed the meal pics though

Thank you vivek ! Somehow i just skipped the meal pics.



"You don't have to be crazy to be in aviation, but it helps", JRD Tata
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2884 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 28119 times:

Nice report mate, really enjoyed reading it,

I was very surprised they were insistent on keeping the shutters down while take off, quite contrary to other airlines, also would'nt that have spoiled departure views of Manhattan at night.

Karan


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 28036 times:

Good TR Anuj.....I enjoyed the pics a lot.
Is the loads always that light or was it a one way exception?
regds
MEL.



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineAirIndiaOne From India, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 27929 times:



Quoting Karan69 (Reply 9):
I was very surprised they were insistent on keeping the shutters down while take off

The shutters were open during take-off & landing. Its just that during the course of the flight, they wanted the shutters closed.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
Is the loads always that light or was it a one way exception?

Before booking the tickets, i had been reading about the poor loads on AI. The possibility of reducing frequency to 3 times a week was also being discussed. I was expecting even poor loads on my return leg but was surprised to see the opposite.



"You don't have to be crazy to be in aviation, but it helps", JRD Tata
User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 27743 times:



Quoting AirIndiaOne (Thread starter):
Thankfully, it wasn’t a cloudy day and the front camera gave a fantastic view of the approach into Mumbai.

Did you get to see Sean, Vishal or Vivek standing over there! LOL



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User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 26886 times:

Great TR. I enjoyed the landing video. The cabin looks very clean and refreshing for AI, i hope they are able to maintain it.

I was looking forward to the food pics, i hope next time you will capture it on camera. The menu seemed quite decent from what you wrote. Do they give a menu card in Y??

Also it was amazing to see the load higher on the JFK-BOM leg. I wonder why!!??!!

Quoting AirIndiaOne (Thread starter):
I had a really good experience overall in the 773

You meant the 772LR.

BOM airport looks spacious, i guess the expansion and renovation is coming along quite well.

Job well done!!! i am sure you had an awesome time in good ole NYC.



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User currently offlineAirIndiaOne From India, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 26555 times:



Quoting Mk777 (Reply 13):
The menu seemed quite decent from what you wrote. Do they give a menu card in Y??

It indeed was. Yes they gave a menu card in Y but this was given only before the last meal service which is quite strange. Could they have forgotten to distribute it before ? I wonder.

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 13):
Job well done!!! i am sure you had an awesome time in good ole NYC.

Thanks mate. I truly enjoyed those 2 weeks there. I totally fell in love with the city  Smile



"You don't have to be crazy to be in aviation, but it helps", JRD Tata
User currently offlineAirIndiaOne From India, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 26256 times:



Quoting Aseem (Reply 12):
Did you get to see Sean, Vishal or Vivek standing over there! LOL

Hehe. Well if not them, one of the spotters from our AInet community must've surely been there  Wink



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User currently offlineAirIndiaOne From India, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 6 hours ago) and read 25209 times:

Does anyone have any information on whether AI has cut down its frequency on the BOM-JFK nonstop ?
It was being contemplated in mid june that Air India would reduce the flight to thrice a week



"You don't have to be crazy to be in aviation, but it helps", JRD Tata
User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 21262 times:



Quoting AirIndiaOne (Reply 16):
Does anyone have any information on whether AI has cut down its frequency on the BOM-JFK nonstop ?
It was being contemplated in mid june that Air India would reduce the flight to thrice a week

It's still showing as daily. I don't think it would be smart of AI to reduce their BOM-JFK flights because it's very difficult to remain competitive in U.S. markets with low frequencies.


User currently offlineManny From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 20404 times:

Great job with the TR.
First time hearing that the loads in Y were close to full.


User currently offlinePP705 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 17845 times:

Namaste AirIndiaOne
Great TR. Felt like I was there. Nice to see BOM change, but still a long way to go.
I only hope AI maintins this excellent service and extends it to all routes and aircrat type.
Would you fly AI again on this route?


User currently offlineRGElectra80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 17620 times:

Hi, nice TR! Really like the pictures. It sounds like AI is providing a pretty good product. Looking forward to more TRs from you in the future!


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User currently offlineCaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 353 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 17286 times:
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It would have been nice to have pictures of the meals on your flights. Also, what did the cabin look like before the flight? Thanks for posting.

User currently offlineSausageandmash From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 17253 times:



Quoting AirIndiaOne (Thread starter):
There was no action taken by the FA’s

Probably because it is their priority to stay strapped into their seats and at the door areas for take-off should the need to evacuate arise...



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User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16143 times:

Great TR. The 77L is just a fantastic a/c


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User currently offlineCaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 353 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 15497 times:
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Thanks for the report.  It would have been nice to have also included pictures of the meals on your flights with AI.

User currently offlineAirIndiaOne From India, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14759 times:



Quoting PP705 (Reply 19):
Would you fly AI again on this route?

Thanks for your comments. Having flown AI once, i would now want to try 9W which routes via BRU. Else would choose Continental, just to get a comparison.

Quoting Caleb1 (Reply 24):
It would have been nice to have also included pictures of the meals on your flights with AI.

That totally skipped my mind, but believe me - the meals were as scrumptious as they looked  Smile



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