FLIEGER67 From Turkey, joined Sep 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 57 Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6976 times:
Meeting at BRU or my tribute to the airport cathedral!
Hello, dear readers,
it seems, there´s a long, long time ago, since I´ve done my last leisure trip.
Ok, around ten weeks, for sure a long time for me, after two biz related cancelled trips in September.
Me and a group of fellow A.netters thought during the summer months about doing a daytrip together.
Where will we go?. Time to search for an interesting target.
Finally Roger (RogerBCN) and Ori (Stylo777) cant do the trip, but
Mark (BA319-131) and Eric (Airbuseric) fixed also flights for the day.
So the decision was, meeting at BRU for a couple of hours spotting and aircraft enthusiastic discussion and doing a flight together
out of BRU. Enough introduction, lets go!.
1.)
STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen) - HAM (Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel)
Duration: 1 hour
Service LH 137 operated by Lufthansa B737-500 D-ABIH
Scheduled: 07.05 // 08.15
Actual: 07.30 // 08.30
Gate: 117 Seat: 21F
Loadfactor: Around 85%
Fare: 56.33 EUR
History:
12.02.1991: Delivered to LH
Leg. no. 25 on the B735 and the first on this machine
I´ve checked in online Tuesday evening without any problem. That means, no need to be early at the airport
Wednesday morning.
STR or better Apcoa changed the fare structure at the airport car parks, so my usual space was not the place to go this time.
Two Euros more for the day, but also at the storey nearest to the terminal, acceptable so far.
Busy security at all three places, it seems the fastest way at T3. Some minutes thereafter I was at the gate for my first flight of the day to HAM.
Completely dark outside, no chance for a good picture.
Lots of pax at the gate, looks like a good load.
The plane was nightstopping there, the registration not visible from my place, hopefully something new.
Good morning STR:
Boarding started some minutes late, not the best impression, I´ve remember some HAM problems back in summer.
A friendly "Have a nice flight" from the female gate agent later I´ve boarded the plane.
I´ve checked the reg during boarding, it seems like a new one, not bad.
One female, two male FA´s, the males in a better mood.
Also a friendly welcome from the german captain, he informed us about heavy departure traffic from STR and a slot in about 15 minutes.
Ok, no problem so far, finally we´re pushed back and taxied slow to the runway, no. eight to departure from 07 in eastern direction.
The cabin well maintained, clean, good legroom, fitted with the usual grey leather seats.
Free drinks and coffee on offer. The sky was cloudy on the whole route, but the flight was calm.
Between STR and HAM:
No more comments from the flightdeck, so no level or route information.
Touchdown on HAM´s runway 33 some 15 minutes late, a quick taxi and airbridge deboarding.
My machine at HAM:
2.)
HAM (Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel) - BRU (Brussel-National)
Duration: 1 hour
Service SN 2624 operated by BrusselsAirlines Avro RJ85 OO-DJX
Scheduled: 10.35 // 11.45
Actual: 10.40 // 11.40
Gate: C11 Seat: 16F
Loadfactor: Around 60%
Fare: 49,50 EUR
History:
22.11.1996: Delivered to DAT
15.02.2002: Ferried to SN
25.03.2007: And further to BrusselsAirlines
Leg no.6 on the RJ85 and the first on this machine
It looks like a better experience at HAM this time.
No extra security check on the way to the gate for leg no. 2.
Check in was also done online.
HAM airport action:
Nice machine:
This time bus boarding from the ground floor.
Settled down, doing some SMS texting and waited for boarding.
Interesting was a scene at the gate when they called us.
LH operates also to BRU some ten minutes ahead to my flight.
One elderly male in biz coat was in the line, but the female gate agent denied him from boarding the plane.
Why?. He was booked on LH, some discussion and he finally jumped away, but the screens showed the LH flight was closed.
Sounds not that good for his way to BRU.
Approaching my plane:
Boarding:
En detail:
No problem doing pix there at HAM. One male, one female FA, both friendly.
The cabin fitted with dark blue leather seats. Signs of well usage clearly visible, low legroom, so not the best first impression.
Indoor shoe shot:
Also a friendly welcome from the Captain, he was from Belgium.
Departure from runway 23, again mostly cloudy on the route, but a calm flight.
Between HAM and BRU:
One more friendly goodbye during descent into BRU from the flightdeck.
No service beneath some sweets, no more detailed route or level information.
Touchdown on runway 25R ontime, only a short way to the finger gate for deboarding.
BRU airport action:
Switched on the mobile and was welcomed by my fellow spotters who noticed my arrival.
I was guided to the restaurant, forgot the name, on level three with a very good view to the apron.
Time goes by rather quick with some enjoyable aviation discussion and some coffees later it was time to go for the next flight.
Service SN2585 operated by BrusselsAirlines Avro RJ100 OO-DWE
Scheduled: 15.00 // 16.25
Actual: 15.15 // 16.30
Gate: 58 changed to 53 Seat: 20A
Loadfactor: Around 70%
Fare: 49,99 EUR
History:
27.05.1998: Delivered to DAT
15.02.2002: Further to SN
25.03.2007: And finally to BrusselsAirlines
Leg no. 5 on the RJ100 and the first on this particular plane
Berlin-Tempelhof will be closed at the end of October, the best reason to fly together to Berlin.
Nearly no time to wait at the security check points. Check in was also done online.
Departure board:
Our gate was in the new terminal, an impressive structure, large and airy, not bad from my point of view.
The terminal:
My machine:
Ground handling:
Boarding:
The plane arrived and boarding was called soon thereafter by an airbridge again.
Two female FA´s on this service, not that especially friendly.
Again dark blue leather seats, cleaner than the earlier RJ85, better legroom.
A nice, but less detailed welcome from the male captain, according to the name he was from Belgium. It seems that was a kind of checkflight,
a female FO and also the jumpseat occupied.
Departure from runway 25R, cloudy on the first part of the leg, the sky cleared up near THF.
The small restroom:
Between BRU and THF:
No free service in b light economy. A friendly goodbye from the captain during our approach,
no more information about level and route.
The approach was rather interesting, flying low over the houses, following some railtracks and finally touchdown on runway 09R.
A long taxi and welcome under the roof covered apron of THF airport.
Hello THF:
Deboarding:
Tail shot:
My machine under the roof:
And again:
Another nice visitor:
Apron view:
And again:
Self service to the entrance, lots of pax doing pix, we´re not the only interested there.
Baggage area:
The exit:
The "Rosinenbomber":
More apron view:
If you ever been to THF, then you know why i call it the airport cathedral, such a special feeling inside, you dont want to talk and disturb the silence.
The Rosinenbomber crew walked around in unifrom preparing for a flight, a film team doing some preparations for the next set, simply stunning.
Hungry?:
The terminal:
Once more:
From above:
And the front view:
Finally time to leave THF, we proceeded by subway and bus together to TXL where all the flights to STR, LHR and AMS will depart later.
Service AB6541 operated by airberlin Airbus A319 D-ABGF
Scheduled: 19.00 // 20.15
Actual: 19.10 // 20.00
Gate: C51 Seat: 25A
Loadfactor: Near 100%
Fare: 7500 miles and 28.-- EUR Taxes and fees
History:
09.07.2007: Delivered to AB
Leg no. 41 on the A319 and the first on this machine
We´re arrived at TXL only some minutes prior to my scheduled boarding time.
Check in was also done online.
So time to say goodbye, pass security again and only two or three minutes later boarding for my flight was called well ontime.
The plane was parked directly ahead to the gate, so self service boarding this time.
While I was on several AB A319´s the last time, I´ve hoped for a new entry. And lucky me, it was a new one.
My ride back home:
And again:
Three female FA´s, friendly so far.
The cabin fitted with bright grey leather seats, clean, legroom ok.
A very friendly and funny welcome from the flightdeck during boarding, it seems the german captain in a good mood today.
Departure from runway 08R quick and powerful, good views on the route, west of LEJ, ERF and further to STR.
Flight level 28.000 feet, free drinks and snacks on offer.
No more comments from the flightdeck.
What seems like an aprroach to runway 25 turned in a STR flyby with a scenic view to the nightly flashing lights of the "Cannstatter Wasen Volksfest"
and later a sharp turn to runway 07. The landing was so soft, nearly no chance to mention the final touchdown.
Once more airbridge deboarding and quickly on the way back home.
So, four new registrations to my log.
I´ve had a flight departing THF done some years ago, but no flight into THF, a real nice experience.
And finally doing this together with two fellow other aviation enthusiasts.
Hey, Mark and Eric, that was a real great day of flying around and meeting you again, guys.
The usual high quality at LH, also not bad to fly BrusselsAirlines, but service need to be updated.
Also no problems there on airberlin.
BRU is a nice place to visit and what about THF:
Immediatelly time to go and visit it with the closure ahead.
Rogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1136 posts, RR: 19 Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6889 times:
Hola Markus!
Thanks for this interesting TR.
It's been great to see THF again and read that you all had such a great time.
I was thinking of you during the whole day, which was quite as long as your, started working at 8.00 and finished at 21.00..... next time I drop everything and spend a day around Europe somewhere: LHR or CDG could have even better than discussing teaching materials.
Enjoy our time in AGP and MAD the coming week.
Salut!
Roger
"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
Airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4015 posts, RR: 52 Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6888 times:
Hi Markus
Thanks for being 'Mr Guide' to us in the beautiful city of Berlin!
It was for sure nice to meet again. We must do some travels again in the future.
Interesting read about your other flights. I think Mark and I saw you actually taxiing along side the viewing deck. I was teaching Mark a bit with his big camera There was some interesing British material on the apron for him
OK, I've to start writing now as well... to bring my part of the journey online!
Gruß
Eric
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
Caspritz78 From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 518 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6873 times:
Great report and great pictures of Tempelhof.
Another great thing about Tempelhof. The ceiling of terminal area would be actually much higher. The ceiling you see now was installed later and there is a huge space between the ceiling and the roof top of the building.
Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 3): I was thinking of you during the whole day, which was quite as long as your, started working at 8.00 and finished at 21.00..... next time I drop everything and spend a day around Europe somewhere: LHR or CDG could have even better than discussing teaching materials.
For sure!.
Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 3): Enjoy our time in AGP and MAD the coming week.
I hope for good weather and else.
Hi, Eric,
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4): Thanks for being 'Mr Guide' to us in the beautiful city of Berlin!
No problem, you know!
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4): It was for sure nice to meet again. We must do some travels again in the future.
It was a pleasure to meet, looking forward to interesting target´s.
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4): I think Mark and I saw you actually taxiing along side the viewing deck.
Mark´s plane was docked when we taxied by.
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4): OK, I've to start writing now as well... to bring my part of the journey online!
That will be one more interesting read
Caspritz78:
Quoting Caspritz78 (Reply 5): Great report and great pictures of Tempelhof.
Thanks for your feedback and the further information about the ceiling.
Hello Philip:
Quoting Oa260 (Reply 6): WOW what a different airport THF is , I never realised that. Must be a great experience.
For sure it is
Quoting Oa260 (Reply 6): Great to meet up with fellow Anetters Mark and Eric.
DALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1581 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6457 times:
Hi Markus!
I awaited this report for some time! Good to read another story from your hand!
High quality as usual!
A pity that we have to farewell THF soon, a masterpiece in airport design I would say.
Also quite an interesting route and congrats on scoring 4 new registrations that day.
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
ps. when will THF be closed down?
Cheers,
Joost ( D-ALCE )
flown on : F50,F70,CR1,CR2,CR9,E75,143,AR8,AR1,733,735,736,73G,738,753,744,319,320,321,AB6. Next flights AMS-ZRH-AMS on
StefanPAD From Germany, joined Dec 2005, 282 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5850 times:
Hi Markus,
what a great and memorably trip. It's a pity that they close this historical airport.
This TR brings back memories of my flights to and from THF with EW some years ago, when EW was an independent airline.
Travelling together with aviation enthusiasts must a double pleasure. Much better to share the impressions with others, or not?
Thanks for sharing this TR. Looking forward to your next reports!
Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 10): It's a pity that they close this historical airport.
Also my opinion.
Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 10): Travelling together with aviation enthusiasts must a double pleasure. Much better to share the impressions with others, or not?
SN usually uses the parking position under the roof, so you were really lucky - probably an interesting experience as well. My THF-arrivals on InterSky and Cirrus were always "outside".
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Self service to the entrance, lots of pax doing pix, we´re not the only interested there.
People seem to realize that it is the last chance to get some pictures of the active airport THF.
FLIEGER67 From Turkey, joined Sep 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 57 Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5653 times:
Hello, Christoph,
Quoting Contact Air (Reply 14): nice report of an obviously great day of flying together with fellow A.Netters.
Thank you.
Quoting Contact Air (Reply 14): SN usually uses the parking position under the roof, so you were really lucky - probably an interesting experience as well.
And that smell of jet fuel, simply great!.
Quoting Contact Air (Reply 14): People seem to realize that it is the last chance to get some pictures of the active airport THF.
Infodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1242 posts, RR: 34 Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5217 times:
Hi Markus,
I'm so glad that your special trip was a success. How lucky to be able to fly into THF one last time. And I really like the look of the airport, something very special indeed. Sad it's closing. The shots of baggage claim remind me more of a railway station and from the outside too it looks more like you'd find trains in there than planes!
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): One elderly male in biz coat was in the line, but the female gate agent denied him from boarding the plane.
Why?. He was booked on LH, some discussion and he finally jumped away, but the screens showed the LH flight was closed.
Sounds not that good for his way to BRU.
This must happen so many times the world over. A year or so ago there were two departures ZRH-VIE scheduled at 1715, HG (Egates) & LX (A gates). It happened several times that people ended up at the wrong place. I don't understand why an airport allows it; it's very confusing for the not-so-frequent flyer.
Thanks again for a great report,
Infodesk
"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
FLIEGER67 From Turkey, joined Sep 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 57 Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5129 times:
Hi, Hannah,
really nice to read your reply.
Quoting Infodesk (Reply 16): And I really like the look of the airport, something very special indeed. Sad it's closing. The shots of baggage claim remind me more of a railway station
Indeed, when you walk towards the main entrance, it´s not visible, that it is an airport terminal.
Quoting Infodesk (Reply 16): This must happen so many times the world over. A year or so ago there were two departures ZRH-VIE scheduled at 1715, HG (Egates) & LX (A gates). It happened several times that people ended up at the wrong place. I don't understand why an airport allows it; it's very confusing for the not-so-frequent flyer.
It seems, that happens much more often than we think about, you know it much better than
me
Ndebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2895 posts, RR: 25 Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4759 times:
Hi Markus,
finally I'm back online to read your nice report about your trip to the soon-to-be-closed-down historic airport of Tempelhof. Unbelievable that SN changed their name twice already since I last flew on this great little airline
Some nice pics again, thanks for sharing!
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6191 posts, RR: 79 Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4330 times:
Servus Markus,
interesting report and nice pics from good old THF. Finally found the time to read and post.
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): The cabin fitted with dark blue leather seats. Signs of well usage clearly visible, low legroom, so not the best first impression.
A lack of seating comfort is what I also remember from my last SN RJ85 flight. I particularly disliked the fixed armrest.
FLIEGER67 From Turkey, joined Sep 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 57 Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4314 times:
Hello PH,
real nice to read your reply.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20): A lack of seating comfort is what I also remember from my last SN RJ85 flight. I particularly disliked the fixed armrest.
No problem in the two seater rows, but for sure something worse with the three seater.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20): What a pity. Service wasn't bad two years ago.