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Catching Up With The LAN A340 And More ... (+pics)  
User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 20719 times:

Hi

Time for another report on one of my latest travels. Since LA was operating a inner-European stretch on their A340-300, is wanted to fly on this aircraft. Until then, the A340-300 was still missing in my log (only few the A346 twice before), and LA is an interesting carrier as well. Timing of the flight, to combine it with other flights on a one-day-trip was good, and I looked into my possibilities, for a reasonable budget of course.

Booking of the LAN flight was done easily on their convenient website. Connecting flights were too expensive so I grabbed my hands on some oneway staff tickets via my employer.

The travel took place on July 22, 2008. Checked the early morning flight on KL, being quite full and therefore a risk to be offloaded. IB was full too, only C class available. Let’s take the chance on their A321. Since I travelled IB not too long ago before (sorry guys, tripreport will come online later), I know that the legroom on IB is pretty good in Y.
I listed myself on IB, went to their check-in counter at 0730 hours and got a boarding pass without seat assignment. This is quite usual, when travelling as sublo.
Security was convenient, I have to say. Can be different some days at AMS. Without stopping at the taxfree shops or Starbucks, I went to gate B12. The A321 was already boarding.
I called at the desk, mentioned my intentions to travel on this flight, and got seat 28B assigned. Such a bummer, in a middle seat in the back of the A321. I don’t like A321’s in the rear cabin. They can be quite uncomfortable when you ask me.
I requested any other seat, got the reply that the flight was full, but nevertheless the lady printed another boardingpass with seat 8E, ‘window seat’ on a 2 seater-row. Flight attendant would be my neighbour in opposite direction. I was happy again  Wink
Boarding was done in a minute, my neighbour was a 4 year old boy (his mother was in row 10B). He was doing fine, only interested in his PSP and sometimes asking me questions about the aircraft and the flight to me. Doors closed, newspapers (also Dutch ones) distributed and staff was overall very friendly.

AMS-MAD
Flight No.: IB3215 Date: 22JUL08
STD: 0805 ATD: 0809
STA: 1030 ATA: 1057
A/C: Airbus A321 Reg No.: EC-ITN
Seat: 08E – Economy Class

My 10th ride on the A321, and the third (!) time on this same machine. My other 2 times on EC-ITN were in June 2008…


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Not too happy with being again on this aircraft, I was happy enough to be on the way to catch my ride on the LAN A340. A little ATC delay on departure, assigned runway in use was 36L, meaning about 20 minutes taxiing. Takeoff delay was finally more then 30 minutes, caused also by the busy morning outbound peak at AMS.
Takeoff roll was quite long, good load (aprox 99% of the seats occupied I think) and might be with reduced powersetting on the engines for cost saving by IB.

My seat had no direct window, and I was only able to look a bit through the tiny window in the emergency exit. Anyway, I had my newspaper, brought my musicphone, played on my own PSP, and slept a bit more. No free service on IB nowadays in Y. Crew came around with a BOB (Buy on Board) service. I had a coffee, which costs EUR 2,-. The crew automatically provides me with a receipt, also stating the flight number. Pretty good I think, especially for the people travelling for business and need a money refund by their employer.

Cockpit crew came with inflight information, in clear understandable English language. We flew at 33,000 feet, ground speed was 910km/h, outside temperature -46 degrees Celcius and we flew over Paris, heading for San Sebastian and then descent to Madrid. We would arrive delayed and they apologized for it.

A smooth ride, overflying France



Cabin view on the Iberia A321



Approaching Madrid Barajas …


And so it was, we had a descent with occasionally moderate turbulence into Madrids runway 18R. The actual landing was rather smooth. The weather was good too, sunshine everywhere and it seemed to be quite hot outside.
We docked in at Madrid’s beautiful terminal 4, gate J57 (spot 344 if I remember correctly). Upon disembarking, friendly greeted by the senior cabin crew.


EC-ITN parked at the gate, after arrival from Amsterdam


At MAD, I was looking for a check-in/transit machine in the airside part of the airport. This was not possible. Since LA is part of oneworld, IB as well, and I’m working for a oneworld company as well, I decided to go to the IB assistance desk. Staff was very friendly and willing to help me. But after trying several times, the lady explained that checking me in for the leg to FRA was impossible due to another system. I had a nice chat with her, since I was not happy with this situation. She understood my opinion, and I think the alliance has to improve more for passengers convenience.

So finally I had to enter Spain and proceed upwards again to departure level to check-in for the LAN flight. Also here, I did not find any self-service kiosks. On the other hand, a well designed and styled LAN desk/counters were available, but closed. I checked with LA staff, and they said I had to wait for another 20 minutes until opening. So I did and the desk opened indeed at exactly noon.


Check-In counters for LAN at Madrid Airport



More LAN at Barajas …


Friendly staff. I informed about the incoming arrival from SCL, and the lady replied that the flight was on time. I got my requested seat, window, and in the rear part of the cabin.

After check-in, I headed through security. Grabbed a lunch at McDonalds, and then proceeded to the satellite building of Terminal 4 → T4S. Also the satellite building is convenient and gives a spacious feeling. Very good views on the apron and runways. Lots of seating for waiting passengers. I enjoyed watching the variety in traffic at MAD, and also saw the LAN A340 arriving from SCL. Not long before, also a LA B763 arrived.


… and more : the A340-300 arriving from Santiago !


It parked at gate R18, but the gate on my boarding pass showed R16. And yes, a while later, the screens showed a gate-change for my flight indeed.
During disembarking, I noticed a real lot of passengers getting off at MAD. I wonder if any of those were in transit for their onward flight to FRA or if they stayed in MAD/connected to other flights.

Boarding eventually started at 14.50hrs, well arranged by the ground staff. Business class uses a separate lane. Three groundstaff for this process. I overall got a good impression. It all went smooth, and during boarding the aircraft, I was greeted by a male cabin crew.


Boarding!


MAD-FRA
Flight No.: LA704 Date: 22JUL08
STD: 1515 ATD: 1542
STA: 1750 ATA: 1816
A/C: Airbus A340-300 Reg No.: CC-CQF
Seat: 37L – Economy Class

My 2nd ride on the A340-300, first on this machine.


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First impressions on the cabin were a bit boring. I don’t like the purple/greyish interior colours.
I went to my seat and greeted my German neighbour. Layout was 2-4-2, and I took my window seat. I’ve to mention that the seatpitch in Economy is pretty tight and one of the worst I’ve ever experienced on a longhaul aircraft. The seat provides a plug for earphones and minimal recline. It also offers IFE, but not with the largest screens.


Boring colour setting in the cabin



Personal IFE screen


I was very surprised with the load on this flight. Boarding finished on time, and I think the cabin was almost fully booked. I didn’t notice any available seats. The captain informed us to relax a bit and that we had to await ATC clearance due to congested traffic above mid-Europe. I think that we got a slot.

The cabin crew handed out blankets and free headphones. Nice, for such a short flight. Pushback was done a little 30 minutes late. After starting up the engines, runway 15L was ours for departure. The distance from our gate to the runway was short, and we were airborne a few minutes later.


Taxiing out for departure


The climb was rather slow, something I expected on this machine. On the other hand, my experience with IB on also an A340-300 was somehow different. The air around MAD was still unstable, and we occasionally hit light turbulence after departure.


Once in the air!


Service started a few moments later. From the front to the rear, the very attentive cabin crewmembers handed out meal-trays. I was pleasantly surprised by this service level, since I didn’t expect it (to be honest).

The tray consisted of a fruit salad, a sandwich with ham, and a vegetarian wrap. Additional a cup of water was given, as well a drink of choice. I had a white wine, which came in real glassware. LA also provides metal cutlery.


Time to eat! Good food on LAN …


The flight went smooth, passed near TLS (I actually saw the airport and Airbus factory), passed by the famous “Millau viaduct” on highway A75 in France. I still have to drive over it myself some day! It’s a fine piece of architecture! Then we flew over the Swiss Alps, and I easily recognized the cities Thun, Interlaken and Brienz, as well the Brienzersee/Thunersee below. Unfortunately, the Jungfraujoch was in the clouds. The flight continued and passed by Stuttgart, were I waved to Flieger67, and further descent to FRA. The arrival procedure was rather interesting, since I was able to see the airport completely on my righthand side. After continuing this approach path for about 10 miles, the Airbus made 2 sharp right turns to pick up the glideslope for an runway 07L approach. Some light bumps hit the A340.


”Hello Stuttgart”



Final turn for a runway 07L approach


Landing was very smooth. We quickly vacated the runway and stopped immediately on the taxiway. Heavy traffic (A340) was departing right behind us, also on runway 07L. Due to traffic we had to hold our taxiing to the gate. After some minutes more delay on the ground, we finally blocked in at, I think, the A380 gate at FRA (not sure about the gatenumber though).


This big sister came in as well


Disembarking took a while, since I was far in the back of the aircraft. When leaving the aircraft, I did not notice a friendly goodbye or something like that. The crew did their great job already inflight.


After landing at FRA, it was time to go home of course. But, this was one of the announced days of strikes at German carrier Lufthansa. Since I couldn’t connect timely on the last KL flight, I had to put my money on LH’s last AMS bound service that day. I really hoped that the disturbance for other flights was minimized during the day and no cancellations on earlier AMS flight happened.
I checked at a very quiet LH transfer counter, located somewhere between terminal T2 and T1, basically friendly staff. I tried to talk a bit with the male agent, in my best German language. I informed a bit about the strike and the situation, but he did not reply much to me. Finally he gave a boarding pass without seat number and wished me luck.

I had a large beer at a bar near the A-gates, good views on the taxiway and runways. I saw also a lot of interesting traffic, including JL B777-300ER, OZ B777-200ER, CA A340-300, KE B747-400. Also the LA A340 which brought me in, departed back to MAD and SCL.

My flight to AMS would leave from gate A36. The gate was conspicuously quiet. When the single male gate agent showed up, I introduced myself and requested a seat. He did not give a seat immediately so I settled down again. Boarding started at 20.50 hours, finished 10 minutes later. Light load, for sure!
I finally got a boarding pass, window seat, quite in front of the cabin. Good thing, since the flight was on an A321 again.


The A321 being served, prior to an Amsterdam bound flight


FRA-AMS
Flight No.: LH4688 Date: 22JUL08
STD: 2110 ATD: 2106
STA: 2220 ATA: 2209
A/C: Airbus A321 Reg No.: D-AISK
Seat: 12A – Economy Class

My 11th flight on an A321, first on this very new machine.


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I was friendly greeted by the cabin supervisor, and another female crew in the second galley. The cabin was very lightly loaded with passengers, seated at every 2 or 3 rows. I guess about 50 or 60 passengers on this rather large Airbus. Did they rebook everybody? Was everybody afraid of flying LH that day? Anyway, this would become a comfortable flight for me.
The crew started with apologies for the lack of catering on the flight, caused by staff on strike. Nevertheless they would be able to provide a small snack instead.

Pushback was ahead of schedule. Cockpit crew announced a flight time of 45 minutes only, and wished us a good flight to Amsterdam. The A321 taxied to runway 07R, which was a pretty unusual choice in my opinion.

Once in the air, the crew started a handout of sealed plastic bags with some food items.
This included a cup of water (0,2l), a small sausage, a cake and a piece of rye bread. Pretty good actually. No further service, also no coffee/tea.


Contents of the snack-package on Lufthansa


The flight was pretty smooth, quiet, uneventful and pleasant. I listened to lounge-music, which totally corresponded with my overall feeling at that moment.


Some CB’s around, that evening the eastern part of Holland was hit by severe thunderstorms


Approach was for runway 06, nearly passing over my own house, followed by a touchdown ahead of schedule. A friendly goodbye was given by the crew when I got off the aircraft at gate B13.

This was a day that ends well, another day of travels finalized. The LAN A340 is in the books, as well a few others. Happy with a good seat on IB, happy to see LH operating as normal on this day (for me), and happy to be home again after a tiring day.

I hope this report gave at least some idea about the LA service and possibilities to enjoy a route like MAD-FRA v.v. more on this Argentinean carrier then on e.g. LH or IB.

Thanks for reading and your feedback.

Cheers,
Eric


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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1432 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 20523 times:

Great TR!!!Well layed out and very informative.


It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3477 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 20426 times:
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Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
the A340-300 was still missing in my log



Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
My 2nd ride on the A340-300

Got me confused here  Confused

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
On the other hand, my experience with IB on also an A340-300

Now i am lost.

Still a very nice TR thanks.



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User currently offlineKlm685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 20304 times:

Hey Eric! It's a pleasure to read your trip reports as usual. Love your pictures and your interest on flying with LAN, definately an airline i'm looking forward.

The food looks excellent, hope it tasted as good as it looks.

I also got confused as SOBHI51 with your A340 experience  Wink


Cheers! Well done


Alonso



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User currently offlineEdgaren From Venezuela, joined Feb 2006, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 20148 times:

Hey ibuseric very good and detailed report,I'm looking forward to try Lan product,I've Heard only good things... So now it's time for a "survey", after having flown Iberia,Lan and lufthansa all intra-european flights which one you consider offers the best service and the best value for money?



Best Regards, Edgar.


User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1689 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 19996 times:

Hi Eric,

Tell me how it is to fly a second time on the A340-300, but still was missing from the log.
Didn't you write down the first one? Big grin

Just kidding!
A very nice report with a very interesting route. A route that might be interesting to do also  Smile
It has been a long time since I was in FRA, so it was good to read about it again!
Lucky bastard to get on one of the new 321's  Smile IS there somehow any difference compared with the older 321's ( more legroom f.e. )

Next week again to ZRH, picking up numbers for the log  Smile
Hopefully some new regs again!

Groetjes,
Joost ( D-ALCE )



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 19854 times:

Hi guys;

thanks for your replies so far guys!

1) About the A340 flights I took. Until June 2008 I had no flights on the A340-300, so I booked this LAN flight (would be my first time A343, with travels in July), but I was lucky to catch another A343 in between, at the end of June, on IB. The IB report didn't come online yet  Wink Hope this clear up for you Big grin
2) I've to correct myself also;

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
I hope this report gave at least some idea about the LA service and possibilities to enjoy a route like MAD-FRA v.v. more on this Argentinean carrier then on e.g. LH or IB.

Should read 'Chilean' carrier instead ...  Silly

Quoting Klm685 (Reply 3):
The food looks excellent, hope it tasted as good as it looks.

Alonso, sure it did! The fruit was fresh and especially the wrap was good food  thumbsup 

Quoting Edgaren (Reply 4):
So now it's time for a "survey", after having flown Iberia,Lan and lufthansa all intra-european flights which one you consider offers the best service and the best value for money?

Basically, I have 2 opinions.
For travels between FRA-MAD v.v., I would definitely go for LA again.
For other European routes, LH is high on my list as preferred carrier.
IB is ok as well, but I would like to see at least a free coffee/tea service on them.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 5):
Didn't you write down the first one?

Yeah, you got it correct!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 5):
IS there somehow any difference compared with the older 321's ( more legroom f.e. )

Yes there is difference. The newer LH A321s have a different cabin interior style. This is especially noticed when you look at the panel above the seat (e.g. reading led-light, buttons, airflow). Seats are the same.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 5):
Next week again to ZRH, picking up numbers for the log
Hopefully some new regs again!

You seem to travel quite a lot lately and ZRH becomes your second homebase?
I'm off to Japan from next week, hope to get some free time for spotting  bouncy 

Cheers,
Eric



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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1689 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19812 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 6):
You seem to travel quite a lot lately and ZRH becomes your second homebase?

That's right. Have been there almost every month at least once since may.
But 2nd homebase looking to the facts will remain FRA for the time being.
According Flugstatistik.de my travels look :

1 AMS 52 flights
2 FRA 38 flights
3 ZRH 8 flights
4 MUC 8 flights

There are however this year some more flights coming up :

20oct - 24oct AMS-ZRH-AMS
15nov NRN-SXF-NYO-NRN
13dec - 16dec NRN-STN-NRN

For next year nothing planned yet!

Enjoy your Japan trip! Try to get a catch on the E170  Wink

groetjes,
Joost ( D-ALCE )



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26999 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19801 times:

WOW that was a cool TR , great to see one for LAN intra European, I didnt know they did such a trip. Might be an idea to make a list of all such airlines/A/C that let you fly internally. Would be great.

Thanks for the great photos and read.

Philip


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 19782 times:

Joost,

Quoting DALCE (Reply 7):
20oct - 24oct AMS-ZRH-AMS
15nov NRN-SXF-NYO-NRN
13dec - 16dec NRN-STN-NRN

Interesting schedule! Maybe you can get on the FR 'Dreamliner' 737.

Thanks Philip;

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Might be an idea to make a list of all such airlines/A/C that let you fly internally. Would be great.

Still looking onto KE, which operates AMS-MAD-AMS, currently on A333, will become B772. But not sure if they have rights to fly revenue between these cities.

Further, I think SV still operates some inner-European routes.

Rgds
Eric



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User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19609 times:

I am confused by mention of Argentinian carrier? LAN is Chilean. Very interesting pictures. How much do they charge for the one way from Madrid to Frankfurt?

User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19421 times:

Hi Semsem, thanks for reading!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 6):
2) I've to correct myself also;

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
I hope this report gave at least some idea about the LA service and possibilities to enjoy a route like MAD-FRA v.v. more on this Argentinean carrier then on e.g. LH or IB.

Should read 'Chilean' carrier instead ...

I already found this mistake, but thanks anyway for remembering me about it  Wink

Quoting Semsem (Reply 10):
How much do they charge for the one way from Madrid to Frankfurt?

About 115 Euro incl. taxes. Not bad actually!



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User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 19137 times:

Hi Eric, great TR! I think that I'm going to have to do this sector on the A340 during the winter months! Will prob do it FRA-MAD-FRA with a night stop in MAD & hope to get 2 different a/c to put in the logbook!



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 9):
Still looking onto KE, which operates AMS-MAD-AMS, currently on A333, will become B772. But not sure if they have rights to fly revenue between these cities.

This one also sounds very interesting! Need to do something to keep going through the winter months while dreaming of those hot summer days spotting in 2009!!  Big grin

Dave(SAAB900)


User currently offlineCaspritz78 From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 18980 times:

Thanks for the nice trip report.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
The arrival procedure was rather interesting, since I was able to see the airport completely on my righthand side. After continuing this approach path for about 10 miles, the Airbus made 2 sharp right turns to pick up the glideslope for an runway 07L approach.

That happens quite often and when you sit on the right side of the plane you really get a nice view of the airport.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 18949 times:

Hi, Eric,

once again a real interesting story and informative pix, especially for me!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
My 10th ride on the A321, and the third (!) time on this same machine. My other 2 times on EC-ITN were in June 2008…

You know, nothing´s worse than flying the same reg again and again!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
The flight continued and passed by Stuttgart, were I waved to Flieger67, and further descent to FRA.

Yeah, me too waving upstairs, I know from your flight according to your SMS.
I´ve checked the LAN service to FRA often on the Swiss radar screen and according
to the pic, you´re route was also not to far from my house.

It seems I need to go shortly on that LAN service
 Wink

Maybe, who knows.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 18437 times:

What a great TR.

Seems you had a wonderful flying day. I would also love to fly for fun during a day.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
The climb was rather slow,

Well, the A342 and A343 is famous for that.


Thank you for sharing

B747forever



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17906 times:
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Hi Eric,

Great report and pictures, I hope to try the LA flight next year.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
My 10th ride on the A321, and the third (!) time on this same machine

- What a bummer!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
I hope this report gave at least some idea about the LA service and possibilities to enjoy a route like MAD-FRA v.v. more on this Argentinean carrier then on e.g. LH or IB.

- Ok good, I see we cleared this up already.

Look forward to the next TR, will that be the JL/KL trip?

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 17483 times:

Hi guys, thanks for reading and your replies!

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 12):
Will prob do it FRA-MAD-FRA with a night stop in MAD & hope to get 2 different a/c to put in the logbook!

For sure you'll get on 2 different ones then, since the long flighttime, one frame can't do it by herself all way around.

Quoting Caspritz78 (Reply 13):
That happens quite often and when you sit on the right side of the plane you really get a nice view of the airport.

Ok, for me quite unique, since I basically never approach from the South(west) into FRA. So this approach pattern was a good experience for me!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
It seems I need to go shortly on that LAN service

Good choice, as you could read. I wish you already good flights next week  Wink

Quoting B747forever (Reply 15):
Well, the A342 and A343 is famous for that.

True. But as said, I've experienced a much better climb on an IB example just a few weeks before this LA flight. As long as the plane climbs on takeoff, it's fine for me  Wink

@ Mark;

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 16):
Look forward to the next TR, will that be the JL/KL trip?

Basically yes, I've to do 4 flights next week, all widebodies. And still have to finish a 5-flight report on my flights from June. It's too much time consuming... Anyway; when nothing goes wrong, I will at least have my window seat on the KL flight (secured for me by a friendly agent already), since the flight will be 100% full.  Wink

Cheers,
Eric



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User currently offlineInbarD From Israel, joined Jan 2007, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 17299 times:

Nice trip report. Great pics. Thanks for sharing!

User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 16365 times:

Hi Eric,

fantastic report and great pictures. It's always great to fly on a wide-body on an intra-European flight. Service on LAN seems to be great, even on that short sector.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
Until then, the A340-300 was still missing in my log (only few the A346 twice before)

Interesting to read. In my log, the A 340-600 is still missing, while I have had 4 flights on the A 340-300 (LH and Air Namibia).

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
my neighbour was a 4 year old boy (his mother was in row 10B)

Strange - as you were probably the last passenger to get a boarding pass, I wonder why they didn't place the mother next to her child and offer the single seat to you. Anyway, for you it was good luck not to be stuck in a middle seat.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 15754 times:

Hi Inbar & Christoph,

Quoting InbarD (Reply 18):
Nice trip report. Great pics. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for the kind words.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 19):
It's always great to fly on a wide-body on an intra-European flight.

With all the cost saving everywhere, I think times gets harder now to see the widebodies operating on the shorthaul European flights  Sad

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 19):
Interesting to read. In my log, the A 340-600 is still missing, while I have had 4 flights on the A 340-300 (LH and Air Namibia).

I remember your TR on the Namibia one  Wink I saw the A346 this morning arriving at NRT, and she is a real beauty. Time to look for another schedule on this longhauler.

About the seat, sometimes I just don't get it.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 19):
Anyway, for you it was good luck not to be stuck in a middle seat.

It was for sure  Silly

Rgds
Eric



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Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 15738 times:

Hi Eric,

excellent report about a nice airline/route combo which I had also planned to try. Well, LA is still is high on my list, but who knows when I will finally get it.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
My 10th ride on the A321, and the third (!) time on this same machine. My other 2 times on EC-ITN were in June 2008…

What a nightmare!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
She understood my opinion, and I think the alliance has to improve more for passengers convenience.

Airlines are quick with joining alliances, but sometimes it takes a long time until everything works smoothly. I've just had a bad experience when trying to book flights on Air China, the often advertised new Star Alliance partner...they had "ghost connections" on their website, then fares were advertised but not available, then they explained on the phone that certain long haul flights wouldn't operate on certain days...what a mess!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
The air around MAD was still unstable, and we occasionally hit light turbulence after departure.

I have noticed that on most of my flights out of MAD.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
The tray consisted of a fruit salad, a sandwich with ham, and a vegetarian wrap. Additional a cup of water was given, as well a drink of choice. I had a white wine, which came in real glassware. LA also provides metal cutlery.

That looks really good.


PH



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