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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26923 posts, RR: 58
Posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I wanted a new way to get to Athens so I saw that Air China offers seats between CDG-ATH. What a great way to travel so I booked a seat.



DATE : 12/DEC/2008
FLIGHT : CA 963
ROUTE : CDG-ATH
AIRLINE: AIR CHINA
A/C : A330-243
REG: B- 6079
SEAT: 14L
CLASS: BUSINESS


I checked in at Terminal 1 CDG at 0600. The lady at the desk was very nice and gave me my boarding card. She also gave me an invitation to the new Star Alliance lounge. I did not need it as I am Star Gold but took it anyway.

Impressions of the Terminal itself are rather dissapointing and old. It needs knocked down and re built IMHO. Very cold and un inviting.

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I proceeded to the Star Alliance lounge .

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I entered the lounge and noticed it was a bit dark . The girl at the desk said that they had no electricity but the lounge was open anyway. Ok I said I then proceeded down the steps and this is what greeted me ::

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Very bad indeed and I was not impressed. The First Class lounge upstairs was empty and had electricity. There were only 4 of us in the Star Gold lounge at this time and we asked if we could use the First class lounge as this was not good enough. Sometimes common sense needs to prevail. The manager of the lounge was arrogant and rude and shrugged his shoulders and said no. On hearing this the other guys said some things and left the lounge in disgust. I decided to stay . I was not happy either but was too tired to do anything else.

View into the F class lounge

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After 45 minutes since I had first entered the electricity finally came on. It certainly looked alot nicer with the lights and working Coffee machine.

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Soon it was time to go to the gate .

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Time to board.

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I was greeted by two Male FA's who directed me to my seat. As soon I was sat down a Female came to welcome me onboard and offered me Slippers and a duvet and a drink. I was very impressed.

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SAFETY DEMO VIDEO

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I was very impressed with the IFE.

After a long taxi we took off and after about 20 minutes the FA came to me and asked me what I would like to eat Western or Chinese. I of course went for the Chinese. Then she offered me a drink.

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After that the meal arrived.

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It was very tasty and really filled me. It was perfect for that time of day.

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Time to visit the bathroom

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Crew rest behind the cockpit



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My bed !!

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In case your wondering after the meal service had finished the crew came and pulled down all the shades.

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I got a bit of a sleep then watched some more IFE

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The FA came to me and asked me if everything was ok and if I wanted a drink. I opted for Orange juice.

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Soon we were in Greek airspace and it was time to land .

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The crew made the cabin ready for landing .

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We parked at an off stand and I decided to take the opportunity to take some pics in Y class.

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Then it was time to disembark and I thanked for crew for an excellent flight.

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So thats the end of my report. I hope you all enjoyed. It certainly was a great trip and a new way to get to Greece.

I appreciate all your comments as usual .

OA260

29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6757 posts, RR: 77
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Very interesting report (despite the loading time), great to see the interior of the aircraft which I had originally wanted to fly to China (before switching to Hainan). However, both the Business and Economy Class cabins look quite dull - especially compared to Hainan.  Wink


Picture by Satchmo


Picture by Satchmo


And even though the seats in Economy are almost identical to the ones on Hainan Airlines, pitch seems to be worse on Air China. For all those interested:

Striking Newcomer: Berlin-Beijing On Hainan A330


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8529 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Thanks Philip, excellent TR, never knew CA operated this route, really want to try it myself!

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
I entered the lounge and noticed it was a bit dark . The girl at the desk said that they had no electricity but the lounge was open anyway

- Amazing they actually allowed you in the lounge without power, surely it breaks some regulations!

Rgds

Mark



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User currently onlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5160 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi, Phil,

I´ve waited for that one, but when I´ve followed your return, I´ve asked me, what about the inbound?.
So, one more real interesting way to travel to Athens.
Nice pics and good story, as usual.

CDG 1 is for sure not the up-do-date airport nowadays.

That A3 Avro looks nice, a well known machine to me!.

And BTW, do you remember our discussion about intra european long haulers?.
EK 77W MLA-LCA is fixed for March.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: Shopping and sun med style!.
User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi Phil
Two excellent (as usual) reports. Slightly more interesting than the majority of your trip reports lately I must say  Wink. Thanks for posting.


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Another great report Philip, really enjoyed it.

I've heard mixed reviews about Air China but it sounds like they provide a good service in business and I must say the meals look very tasty and well presented. The cabins look a bit cold and boring, a few warmer colours would be nice but at least it had mood lighting and I really like the gold Air China logo on the wall.

How did you find the seat in that angled recline? The design on the seat covers in very nice.

It's awful about the lounge, surely it would have been better just to keep it closed and offer an alternative.

Thanks for posting!

Kevin


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Excellent report and pictures! I really enjoyed the read.

I'm really surprised about the lounge issue at CDG. It's a shame that the agent was rude to you guys. Do you plan on complaining or anything like it?

Also, the 2 747s at ATH... what airline do they belong to?

Thanks


User currently offlineFutureflight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great trip report! I would love to try Air China sometime soon!

Looked great having only two people in your section! Big grin

Futureflight.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26923 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
both the Business and Economy Class cabins look quite dull - especially compared to Hainan. Wink

Hi thanks , well for me I actually prefer Air China I like the interior , maybe its different when your inside the cabin. Horses for courses and all that. lol

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
never knew CA operated this route, really want to try it myself!

Hi Mark,

Neither did I until recently, I found it by accident.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
surely it breaks some regulations!

Haha obviously not. But to be honest its useless talking to them in Paris Airport they just dont care and take no pride in customer service.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
what about the inbound?.

I know its all back to front .

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
That A3 Avro looks nice, a well known machine to me!.

Yes you are no stranger to it .

Quoting EICVD (Reply 4):
Slightly more interesting than the majority of your trip reports lately I must say Wink.

H Mark,
Hope you are all set for Xmas . I hope you have a good one. I couldnt make you read another EI or LX report lol.... You were all Swissed out lol....

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 5):
How did you find the seat in that angled recline? The design on the seat covers in very nice.

Hi Kev,
Surprisingly comfortable but I think I will prefer horizontal flatbeds like AC NZ etc.. I will have to try them out and compare.

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 5):
It's awful about the lounge, surely it would have been better just to keep it closed and offer an alternative.

Yes with only 4 of us it would have been no issue to let us use the F lounge we were all Star Golds .Again a major failure of customer service .

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 6):
Do you plan on complaining or anything like it?

Also, the 2 747s at ATH... what airline do they belong to?

Hi yes a letter with photos is going to head office along with the name of the rude manager.The 747's are a Greek Charter airline ''Hellenic Imperial'' I dont like the name or logo though.

Quoting Futureflight (Reply 7):
Looked great having only two people in your section! Big grin

Yes it was very nice. The flight came in from PEK-CDG-ATH so only a few for ATH but I ws told cargo is good on the PEK-ATH sector.


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3288 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Wonderful report, on a airline/route pair that I had no idea existed.

One question for anyone in the know? Are those J seats the same Recaro seats that AA uses in their J cabin? They look strikingly similar.

Again, great report, and fantastic pictures!

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great report on a different airline for intra-european travel.


I would not have been happy about the lounge situation and would have pushed my status in the argument.



There's flying and then there's flying
User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
H Mark,
Hope you are all set for Xmas . I hope you have a good one

Thank you, same to you.


User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5088 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Thanks as always for an excellent TR. I notice it was an "I" ticket - how much was the redemption intra-Europe and using what program? Really curious.

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
this is what greeted me ::



Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
There were only 4 of us in the Star Gold lounge at this time and we asked if we could use the First class lounge as this was not good enough. Sometimes common sense needs to prevail. The manager of the lounge was arrogant and rude and shrugged his shoulders and said no. On hearing this the other guys said some things and left the lounge in disgust. I decided to stay .

= Jaja. This is absolutely unacceptable. But then again, it is Paris airport? I could write a book on how horrible it is ... I don't joke when I say, I prefer transiting at Libreville ... and for those who have been to Gabon, you know what I mean.

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Time to visit the bathroom

= What the hell is tighting lotion? Jaja. Did you use it and get "tight"? This is soo naughty ...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
However, both the Business and Economy Class cabins look quite dull -

= PH, must agree. Besides, the J seats have those horrible "breaks" that I so despise. Also, I think the cabin looks cramped.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26923 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 9):
Are those J seats the same Recaro seats that AA uses in their J cabin?

Not sure I have not seen those.

Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 10):
would have pushed my status in the argument.

You could be the director of a multi million company and they still do not care. No point even trying. Shame that they operate that way.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 12):
I prefer transiting at Libreville ... and for those who have been to Gabon,

LOL... I can only guess.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 12):
What the hell is tighting lotion?

No comment , some people may need more than others LOL...


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi Philip,

wow, you found indeed another good way to fly to Greece!! This is really interesting to see a Chinese carrier on a inter-Europe strech. I will look into the possibilities to try this one out myself soon in the future  Smile
I don't like CA's Y-class interior, the C-class is ok, but also not my style. This I prefer the red fron Hainan, which was covered in PlaneHunters report lately.
Thanks for the details and good pics.
Merry X-mas,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently onlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4753 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

You just reminded me of my nightmarish transfer at CDG some years ago. I have never wanted to go through something like that EVER again. Customer service is just not their forte at the terminal. All that passionate ooh-la-la in the French culture suddenly seem so starkly absent there.

Good to see how a long haul product of CA looks like. They are probably feeling the heat from the private carriers that they have been forced to up their offerings lately. Glad to see they are scoring quite well from what I see in the photos. I am, however, not too sure about that meal though. Was it only one course?



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Excellent way to travel intra-Europe, I never realized either this flight exists. Looks like the Recaro seats LH/AY etc have in J.


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User currently offlineShamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
It needs knocked down and re built IMHO

Nooo..... that building is great. An architechtural gem. It's getting on a bit but I have to say it really takes me back. Alos love the noise when they make announcements there.

Nice report - CA looks good and a great way to travel around Europe.


User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1659 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hey Phil!

I had no idea Air China operates this route! What a surprise actually.

I always thought they did ATH-DXB with the 767. Does that route even exist?

Excellent report! ... The Business Class product looks quite nice, and the food yummy!

The seats are identical to Cathay's older 'new business class' which are very comfortable.


Thanks a lot for sharing this report!

Regards,
Roni



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User currently onlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1680 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi Philip,

What a great way to fly intra-european!
A great discovery I would say. Although others might not like the cabins of the aircraft, I think it looks a tad better than the JL C-class featured in AirbusEric.
A very interesting read I must say, really something different than our shared hobby of posting LX-reports  Wink

Cheers,
Joost (D-ALCE)



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User currently offlineManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1224 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Thanks for sharing - another great trip report.

How did I not know about this route?! I just looked on the *A website and notice it only flies on Friday which is a shame as I was thinking of taking it one weekend (without taking time off work!) Seems strange that they route the flight PEK-CDG-ATH-CDG-PEK rather than stopping on ATH on the way to CDG....

Did you use bmi miles for this?



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi Joost  Wink

Quoting DALCE (Reply 19):
I think it looks a tad better than the JL C-class featured in AirbusEric.

Hmm... all personal of course, but I have the feeling that JL's C-class coloursetting provides a bit extra 'warm' feeling since colours are a bit darker. But I can't comment on comfort of the seats and IFE of course, because for sure IFE needs a huge improvement on JAL.



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User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26923 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 14):
This is really interesting to see a Chinese carrier on a inter-Europe strech.

Hi Eric, Yes thats why I decided to do it. Was really a nice route.

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 15):
You just reminded me of my nightmarish transfer at CDG some years ago. I have never wanted to go through something like that EVER again.

LOL.... I wont be going back anytime soon.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 16):
I never realized either this flight exists

No neither did I until I found it by accident .

Quoting Shamrock104 (Reply 17):
An architechtural gem

LOL.... You know those drugs your own. Send some my way LOL....

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 18):
ATH-DXB with the 767. Does that route even exist?

Hi Roni, Yes they still operate that route. Id love to do it sometime also. There are certainly some interesting routes out of ATH , I hope they never change them otherwise it would be boring. Athens was always a link between Europe and the East/Middle East and thats what I love about it.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 19):
than our shared hobby of posting LX-reports  

Yes although I feel a Swiss trip coming along soon.

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 20):
Did you use bmi miles for this?

Yes I used miles which was a great way to burn them IMHO.

Quoting EIRules (Reply 22):
So what's the next novel way to get home??

Hi Andrew,
Well who knows , something wacky might be in order ..


User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4167 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 10):
would have pushed my status in the argument.

You could be the director of a multi million company and they still do not care. No point even trying. Shame that they operate that way.

In fact, pushing status would infuriate them even more. Liberte , egalite and all that!  Wink



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User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great TR... Thank you!

..

..



I miss ACES, I am proud of AVIANCA & I am loyal to AMERICAN
25 OA260 : Thanks for the thumbs up. Well its not an isolated incident looking at comments on other websites. There was a passenger revolt over the lounge staff
26 Post contains images akhmad : Hi Philip, Nice report. Pity that CA has dropped this route. Judging on your experience, it must have been the best way to travel from CDG to ATH. You
27 QatarA340 : Excellent Trip Report! I never knew Air China flew from CDG to ATH! The J offering looks dated though and the screens look smaller compared to similar
28 oa260 : Yes certainly was . They dont anymore sadly. Maybe one day it will return, it was a great chance to experience such a product.
29 QatarA340 : You know what! I never realized this Trip Report was one year old! I assumed its recent. Yet, its still fantastic and helpful.
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