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User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1436 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6739 times:

Happy Christmas everyone and Welcome to my First Trip Report!

Back in November I decided to book a few flights for over the Christmas holidays as I would have 2 weeks off. BA had announced that their DUB-LGW route would be dropped from the Summer 2009 timetable so I was anxious to try it out before they dropped it, as I had never flown with BA on this route. It was also a chance to fly on a 737 Classic, something I don't get to do often these days. So I logged on to ba.com and booked a seat for myself for Dec 21 on BA8085 to London for a very reasonable price, just 58 euro.

Gatwick is one of the very few destinations from Dublin with 3 carriers operating it, namely EI, FR and BA of course. When Aer Lingus resumed services to LGW in 2007, the possibility of BA dropping the route and codesharing with EI on it was always there, and it became a reality a few weeks ago. The loss of yet another full-service carrier at DUB is disappointing, but not surprising as BA's loads on the route are supposed to have been very poor recently. It's also worth mentioning that this is the last remaining BA mainline service to Ireland, however BA Cityflyer do operate a DUB-LCY service.

Anyway, back to the Trip Report!

My alarm clock woke me at 07:00, not too early for once. As I live in Ennis, about 15km from Shannon Airport, I decided to get the train to Dublin. I had considered jumping on the EI A330 from SNN to DUB, but the times didn't suit. The first departure at 07:00 was too early, the 11:40 departure would have been ok, but if it was delayed any bit it I would have missed the connection so I didn't take the risk. It was subsequently delayed 2 hours so it proved to be the right decision......

The train departed Ennis at 07:50

Commuter Train - showing it's age
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At 08:30, I arrived in Limerick, and changed train for Dublin Heuston which departed at 08:35.

Intercity Train - very comfortable

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I bought a cup of tea. At 10:55 I arrived in Dublin

Heuston Station
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I then got the Airlink bus to DUB at 11:05. These buses run every 30 mins from Heuston Station to the airport. The journey lasted 40 mins and cost 6 euro.

On arrival, I headed in the direction of Terminal 2 which is to open in 2010 to take some photos. A lot of work had been done since I last saw it in September.

Terminal 2
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Aer Lingus Head Office, isn't it a lovely building?

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Anyway I headed for Departures which was very busy. It was one of the peak travel days of the year and DUB clearly showed the signs of it.

Dublin Airport Departures - the lady in pink is one of the DAA Customer Care staff, it's hard to miss them with those dazzling jumpers!
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DUB was nicely decorated for the holiday season

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Then it was time to get down to business.



Date : 21 December 2008
Flight : BA8085
Route : DUB - LGW
Aircraft : B737-436
Reg : G-DOCF
Seat 24F
Class Euro Traveller
Scheduled Dept Time : 14:25
Actual Dept Time : 14:30
Scheduled Arrival Time : 15:45
Actual Arrival Time 15:40


G-DOCF entered service in 1991 and was delivered to BA the same year. The Polish world tail could be seen on this aircraft up to 2005.


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I headed to Area 2 to check in for BA8085 to LGW. I tried to check-in using the BA Self Service kiosks, all was going to plan until the last step when it asked me to insert the credit card used to book the flight. I hadn't it of course. This was not a feature of the EI SSK's and I hadn't used the BA ones before. I was at the airport 2.5 hours in advance, and looking at the unmanned check-in desks in front of me I wondered how long I'd have to wait. People came and went using the SSK's to check-in, no bother at all. I didn't really mind though, there was good atmosphere around!

The Aviance check-in agent eventually arrived 30 mins later and she checked me in and I got my boarding card. She was very friendly, as were the Aviance check-in agents for the BD flight to LHR. They all seemed to be very happy doing their job, and were very professional.


Boarding Pass
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I then headed upstairs for a snack. I had tea and a muffin and sat down for a while.

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Ryanair Ticket Desk

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Aer Lingus Premier Class Check-in desk
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Afterwards I proceeded to security screening. Some of the security agents were very humourous today. As I walked through the metal detector, it beeped. The officer asked how old I was. "16" I replied, and he told me to go back again. No problem the second time round, "Well your 17 now " he joked and they had a good laugh over it. Is this one of those compulsory jokes at security screening or something? I laughed too and said goodbye to them.

I had a quick look around duty free and then headed for Pier B. BA8085 would be departing from Gate B28. Pier B is the most convenient boarding pier at DUB and doesn't require a long walk like Pier A and D. It's the only pier with airbridges and is used mainly by long-haul carriers, full-service carriers and most EI flights to LHR also depart from Pier B.

There wasn't a huge variety of traffic on the ramp at this time of day

BD A320 bound for LHR
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Pier A

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It was a wet day at DUB, and as it got even wetter, it made taking pics even harder.

EI-DUO

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EI-DUB
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EI A321 preparing for departure to LHR
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Pier E over there in the process of being built
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The CO flight to EWR was delayed by over 3 hours due to the late arrival of the 757 caused by bad weather in EWR. The flight departed just before mine. Virtually on-time  Smile

My aircraft today, G-DOCF arriving on stand.
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At 14:00 boarding commenced
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Again the Aviance gate agents were very friendly. We were held up in the airbridge for over 5 mins for some reason.

One of the male members of cabin crew greeted us at the door and was very cheerful. There were 4 cabin crew onboard today, 2 male and 2 female. They were all very professional. I took seat 24A for a few mins and asked one of the female FA's standing at the rear of the aircraft if it would be ok to take some pics of the cabin. There was no problem.

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Despite the cabin showing it's age, BA have looked after it well, and it was very clean.


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A very wet day out at DUB
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Safety card


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I then moved across to 24F
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The captain welcomed us all onboard and gave a brief description of our routing and the weather in LGW. We pushed back and the crew performed the safety demonstration.

Take-off today was from RWY 28. It was slightly turbulent after take-off but nothing too serious.

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When we reaching cruising altitude, the service began without delay.

I got a cup of tea and this dolly mixture of nuts and stuff. A small snack but tasty all the same.

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I couldn't do a TR and not include this........ Wink

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There was a young rugby team onboard. They were all asleep and didn't avail of the service. I had chosen seat 24F hoping that some of the surrounding seats would be left vacant and they were. The 2 seats next to me, the one in front and behind me were all free, meaning I had plenty of room and it was very comfortable. The legroom was generous, as was the recline. In stark contrast to my flight home with FR.

Highlife magazine - December 2008


Some more inflight pics
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After a short read of the magazine and a song or two on my iPod, we began our descent into LGW
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On approach

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Landing at LGW - RWY 26L
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Cabin photo after landing
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The crew welcomed us to LGW and we taxied to the North Terminal. Most of the widebodies had already departed.

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G-DOCH
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I said goodbye to the crew and as we were parked at an international stand, we had to get the bus to UK/Ireland Arrivals.

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North Terminal arrivals was very busy and I headed up to Departures again. I had a look around at the shops for a while and then took the BA shuttle train to the South Terminal as that's the terminal Ryanair use.

Nice Christmas tree in the South Terminal
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I headed out towards the perimeter road for some spotting for half an hour. From here, you can get photos like these (took these last summer)

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Time to go back inside.



Date : 21 December 2008
Flight : FR1185
Route : LGW - SNN
Aircraft : B737-800
Reg : EI-DWL
Seat : 31F
Class : Economy
Scheduled Dept Time : 21:45
Actual Dept Time 22:05
Scheduled Arrival Time : 23:10
Actual Arrival Time : 23:10
Load Factor 99%


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I had already checked-in online. ryanair.com states that passengers between 14-17 "do not qualify for online check-in". Anyone know why? I'm just 16 and have used online check-in several times and have never had a problem.

At this stage I was getting hungry so I went to Frankie and Benny's restaurant to get something to eat. Again it was very busy and the food was ok. Shortly after that I proceeded to security screening and headed to the Servisair Lingfield lounge.

It cost me £18. This lounge is not impressive. It was basic, outdated and looked very worn. The walls were in desperate need of some paint. The floor was dirty and the selection of drinks was very limited. I wasn't expecting much but it's not very attractive. On saying that though, the lounge staff were friendly and there was good views of the ramp. There was also free wireless internet access available which kept me entertained. Anything was better than being stuck outside in the busy departure lounge for almost 3 hours!

At 21:05, it was time to leave and head to the gate for the flight back to SNN. Boarding tonight was at Gate 10, about a 5-10 mins walk from the departure lounge. When I reached the gate, it was clear that the flight was packed out, the place was flooded with people.

I'm not a big fan of Ryanair, but I'm not one to criticise them either. I use them because it's the most convenient way back to SNN. Almost all my flights on FR have been cheap, on time, and they get the job done.

Boarding was called at 21:15 and the usually rush of people towards the gate agents began. It's a pity FR don't assign seating, it would help keep boarding more civilised....

Boarding
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There were 4 cabin crew onboard as usual, 2 male and 2 female. We were greeted at the door by one of the crew. Boarding took slightly longer than usual because the stairs at the rear was not used.

The dazzling yellow in the cabin
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Two passengers failed to turn up so their luggage had to be offloaded. This led to us being delayed by 15 mins. The captain welcomed us onboard and gave us a detailed description of our routing.

One thing I noticed was the huge amount of luggage being carried onboard. Towards the end of boarding, the crew were trying to force the luggage into the overhead lockers, the crew were struggling to close them because they were so full. One lady came back and asked one of the crew to find a place for her bag, since there was no room. He ended placing it under one of the seats in the last row. It just didn't appear very safe to me to be stuffing the overhead lockers to such an extent.

The crew performed the safety demonstration. One of the crew burst out laughing during one of the safety announcements for some reason. Plenty of heads turned as you can imagine! Not very professional at all. We pushed back at 22:05.

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The flight was uneventful, I didn't bother purchasing anything from the BOB menu.

We landed on time back in SNN - RWY24. There was 4 other FR aircraft on the ground. I said goodbye to the crew and headed into the baggage hall. The airport was busy with many coming home for Christmas. I took a couple more photos and then headed home.

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Overall I enjoyed the day out, particularly the BA flight. It's almost 4 years since I last flew BA and from this short experience, it appears BA are still a very professional airline and provide a great service. It will be a pity to see their DUB-LGW route being dropped in 2009.

Thanks for reading, I hope it was ok. Any comments and feedback would be appreciated!

I'll be going to LHR next weekend so I'll upload a TR for these flights:

EI132 : SNN-DUB
EI156 : DUB-LHR
BA1398: LHR-MAN
FR149: MAN-SNN


Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!

EI320  santahat 

16 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6692 times:

Very enjoyable read and great photos you included. Thanks.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6656 times:

Hey there great TR and pics. I sure will miss BA on the DUB-LGW route. They offer a good service. A way to get around that credit card issue at the SSK's is to check in online 24hrs before and print your own BP out.

Anyway glad you had a good time and looking forward to your next reports. Welcome to the TR club LOL....


OA260


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5138 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6636 times:

Hi, Colm,

real interesting and detailed story.
Good to follow that BA/FR comparison.

My choice, BA, no question.
That BA classic bobby looks really nice, I like especially that nose con with the black stripe.

Looking forward to your next story.

Thanx for posting and Merry Christmas,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4627 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6632 times:

Great report, Colm!

I like how many pics there were - they really showed most of the trip. The only thing missing was a pic of the lounge - but you described it well enough.

Quoting EI320 (Thread starter):
As I live in Ennis

I've been there! It's not a bad place to live really!

Quoting EI320 (Thread starter):
Intercity Train - very comfortable

Wow, the new trains look good... I've only had the old trains when I've been off to Limerick for work... (tells you how often I go!)

Quoting EI320 (Thread starter):
Aer Lingus Head Office, isn't it a lovely building?

Awful relic of the 1960s! You should see inside... I went for an interview as a Flight Attendant there and it's dire dire dire...

Quoting EI320 (Thread starter):
I couldn't do a TR and not include this........

I always include that pic too - shows the legroom  Smile

Quoting EI320 (Thread starter):
I had already checked-in online. ryanair.com states that passengers between 14-17 "do not qualify for online check-in". Anyone know why? I'm just 16 and have used online check-in several times and have never had a problem.

Not sure... what is worse is that people like me (I'm Australian, so don't have an EU passport) have to pay for airport check-in solely because of the fact that we're not EU. As it's discriminatory, you then have to send a letter to FR who refund your credit card the amount charged. It's a pain in the neck and it's the main reason I avoid flying FR. EI are often cheaper, and even when not it still works out as less hassle for me... oh and I have Gold Circle Lounge access, so that is a factor too haha!

Great report, thanks a million for that! Keep doing them!!



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6450 times:

Nice TR. What were the loads like on BA? I heard they weren't great...
 santahat 



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User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6334 times:

Hi Colm
Great trip report, looking forward to your next one, any report involving either EI, DUB or LHR always appeal to me. Thanks for posting.


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8506 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6191 times:
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Hi Colm,

Nice report and pictures, looks like a good fun day, thanks for sharing - look forward to the next TR.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6151 times:



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 1):
Very enjoyable read and great photos you included

Thanks for the reply, I tried to take as many photos as possible!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Hey there great TR and pics. I sure will miss BA on the DUB-LGW route. They offer a good service. A way to get around that credit card issue at the SSK's is to check in online 24hrs before and print your own BP out.

Hi Phil, it will be a shame to see BA drop the route. DUB-LGW will become yet another route with just EI and FR fighting it out for passengers. I had considered using online check-in, but I was curious to see what the BA SSK's were like! Turns out my plan backfired on me this time lol.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Welcome to the TR club LOL....

Do I get a card? Big grin . To be honest, there's a lot more work involved in them than I thought. I've learned a lot from your ones though, keep them coming!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
real interesting and detailed story.
Good to follow that BA/FR comparison.

Hi Markus, thanks for the reply! I agree, BA beat FR here on all counts. It's always worth paying that little bit extra for a more pleasant flight.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
hat BA classic bobby looks really nice, I like especially that nose con with the black stripe.

That will always be the best BA livery IMO. Very classy.

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 4):
Great report, Colm!

I like how many pics there were - they really showed most of the trip. The only thing missing was a pic of the lounge - but you described it well enough.

Hi Trent, thanks for the reply! I wanted to get some lounge pics, but it was pretty busy so I left it. Your not missing much to be honest! To put it in context, it made the GC lounges look attractive  Wow!

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 4):
I've been there! It's not a bad place to live really!

Ennis is a great town, plenty to see and do! The fact that SNN is just down the road also helps....  airplane 

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 4):
Wow, the new trains look good.

It was my first time in the new Intercity trains, I was very impressed. The journey to Dublin went very fast, all for just 15 euro one-way.

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 4):
I went for an interview as a Flight Attendant there and it's dire dire dire...

The building is really showing it's age, I wouldn't mind seeing the inside of it though..........

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 4):
Not sure... what is worse is that people like me (I'm Australian, so don't have an EU passport) have to pay for airport check-in solely because of the fact that we're not EU. As it's discriminatory, you then have to send a letter to FR who refund your credit card the amount charged.

That sounds like a pain alright!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 5):
Nice TR. What were the loads like on BA? I heard they weren't great...
  

Hi Kevin, the load was ok, about 70% in Y and about 7 people in J. The average loads are supposed to be very poor though.

Quoting EICVD (Reply 6):
Great trip report, looking forward to your next one, any report involving either EI, DUB or LHR always appeal to me. Thanks for posting.

Hi Mark, the EI DUB - LHR report should be the one for you so!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 7):
Nice report and pictures, looks like a good fun day, thanks for sharing - look forward to the next TR.

Hi Mark, thanks for the reply. It was fun, I like to just book random flights like those now and then!


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5939 times:

Nice report Colm, enjoyed reading it.

It's a shame that British Airways dropped LGW-DUB, it was always tough up against Ryanair and then Aer Lingus but at least the BA code remains on the route when they leave.

Quoting EI320 (Thread starter):
Aer Lingus Head Office, isn't it a lovely building?

It looks my local hospital, Northwick Park!

Thanks for the report and great photos!

Kevin


User currently offlineN272WA From Ireland, joined Jun 2007, 410 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5667 times:

Hi Colm,

Great TR thank you !! Yes indeed, it is surely sad to see BA leave DUB,

I was gutted when they dropped the LDY back in July....

Merry Xmas & happy New Year,
Mike



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User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5328 times:



Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 9):
It's a shame that British Airways dropped LGW-DUB, it was always tough up against Ryanair and then Aer Lingus but at least the BA code remains on the route when they leave.

It sure is a shame. It won't be the last airline to withdraw services from Ireland this year IMO.

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 9):
It looks my local hospital, Northwick Park!

Probably won't be around for much longer if EI decide to develop it!

Quoting N272WA (Reply 10):
I was gutted when they dropped the LDY back in July....

Hi Mike, I forgot about the LDY route. It was a route I never flew, but again it was a shame to see it go.


User currently offlineAirthanet From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5153 times:

A great trip report with fantastic photos! I want to visit Ireland one day, hopefully in the next few years....


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User currently offlineEIDAA From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 828 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5022 times:
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Hi Colm,

Well done on uploading your first TR! That was a great read and you had plenty of detail and photos... keep them coming!

Nice to see another report on the BA DUB-LGW service before it ends later this year.

Quoting EI320 (Thread starter):

EI-DUO

http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq326/EI320/100_3555DesktopResolution.jpg

EI-DUO operated the EIN137 to BOS that afternoon and I was actually on board in seat 28A  Smile I will see if I can get around to writing my TR in the coming weeks.

Thanks again
Andrew



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User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4884 times:



Quoting Airthanet (Reply 12):
A great trip report with fantastic photos! I want to visit Ireland one day, hopefully in the next few years.

Thanks. You should try and visit Ireland sometime if you get a chance. Plenty to see and do, particularly during the summer. If your looking for good weather, giant theme parks, great transport services, or leprechauns, you might be disappointed...  Smile

Quoting EIDAA (Reply 13):
EI-DUO operated the EIN137 to BOS that afternoon and I was actually on board in seat 28A   I will see if I can get around to writing my TR in the coming weeks.

Hi Andrew, if I had known, I could have waved! You were just round the corner.....Lucky that you got DUO, a huge improvement over the older -200's. Would be great if you could upload a TR, I'm always interested in long-haul EI reports!

EI320


User currently offlineEIDAA From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 828 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4840 times:
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Quoting EI320 (Reply 14):
Hi Andrew, if I had known, I could have waved! You were just round the corner.....Lucky that you got DUO, a huge improvement over the older -200's. Would be great if you could upload a TR, I'm always interested in long-haul EI reports!

Whatever about waving, we should have met up for a coffee!

EI-DUO certainly is an improvement over the older aircraft. I was lucky enough to get it on the outbound EIN137 on the 21st and again on the return EIN132 on the night of the 30th. When I saw it was EI-DUO on ACARS that evening, I opted for the $600 upgrade at check-in in BOS to try out the new J class product... very nice!



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User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4836 times:



Quoting EIDAA (Reply 15):
Whatever about waving, we should have met up for a coffee!

Definately, it would be great if some of us could meet up sometime
in DUB for a day. Would be able to put some faces to the names then!

Quoting EIDAA (Reply 15):
When I saw it was EI-DUO on ACARS that evening, I opted for the $600 upgrade at check-in in BOS to try out the new J class product... very nice!

That was great, well worth the extra I'd imagine! $600 to upgrade isn't bad, considering what you'd be for a full J ticket online! I got to see the J cabin of -DUZ last year, very nice...... How would you rate the service?

Looking forward to seeing your report!


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