Triple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 742 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10292 times:
I enjoyed the pics because I've been in BKK 3 times and it is a fascinating city. You mentioned you also posted some videos. I didn't see any.
I enjoyed the pics but I would have liked to hear a little more about your inflight experiences and your time in BKK...where you stayed, purpose of visit. Maybe you can add them to this report.
What did you think about the flight?
What did you think about the service?
What did you think about the plane you were in?
What did you think about the airport?
What did you think about Bangkok?
What did you do to while your time away on the long flight?
What did you think about UA's IFE?
What did you think about the catering on board UA's long haul?
What did you think about the JCL seats comparing to the competition flying the sanme routes?
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Quoting UAL747 (Reply 6): I will come back and write about the trip when I have time guys, Sorry for leaving you hanging, but enjoy the pics and vids for the moment!
Take time to write a proper trip report, it will be better appreciated.
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Guys, I'm sorry that I didn't write the report with the pictures, I understand that can be frustrating, but I've been extremely busy today and uploading these videos, photos, etc. and transferring them to the website was just taking too long and my explorer was freezing on me. So here goes.
I decided that I would take a trip to Bangkok to visit some relatives over the new year. I have always wanted to hit up that fabulous city, but unfortunately, haven't had the chance to until now. I sort of bought my ticket on whim and was able to score a Business class ticket on United for only $3500 round trip, which I thought was quite nice.
I have a few other trip reports that I will list later that have pictures of the Oklahoma City Airport, so I decided to leave the OKC-ORD flight out, since it's basically the same routing, aircraft, and spotting to be done at OKC that was in my last trip report.
I arrived at ORD around 835AM and headed over to the international business class lounge to wait for my noon departure to NRT. I noticed that gate C17 was completely full of Asian passengers waiting on their flight to Shanghai. They had a newly painted 747-400, and I found that the aircraft I would be taking to NRT was still in the old United Color scheme. I was sort of sad not to have the new colors, but the trip would still be a great deal of fun.
It wasn't until about 20 min later, I looked at the screen monitors in the lounge to see that the Shanghai flight had switched to gate C18, where the Tokyo bound aircraft was located. You could tell by comparing wingtips of both aircraft, which one had been filled with fuel already. I looked at the original Shanghai aircraft and noted that Engine #1 cowling was open, so I figured the aircraft went tech. They announced the gate change as well as a delay for the NRT 881 flight to 235 PM. My flight to BKK was to leave at 635PM NRT time, so I was concerned about my connection.
I went to the customer service counter in the Business class lounge and inquired about it. She said at this point, it was still a legal connection, but she was going to see if she could get me on the oversold HKG flight which would connect with Emirates and continue to BKK. I sort of wanted that to work out as a flight on Emirates would be pretty cool. Unfortunately, all classes were sold out and no one gave up their seats, plus my departure still gave me enough time to connect.
Around 200PM, I went to the lounge where they were already boarding and walked ahead of hundreds of economy passengers straight onto the plane, up the stairs, and sat in the window. It was my first time on the upper deck of a 747 and it really is nice and cozy. I do believe if feels a little larger than a Boeing Narrowbody, but maybe that is just me. The problem though, is the windows are positioned in a strange way so that you have to lean over to see out of them, but it was a very nice ride up there and very quiet.
Our flight path took us directly north for a while into Canadian Airspace, and westward over the Middle of Alaska. I do believe we flew right to the South of Mt. McKinley on the way. Channel 9 was on during the entire flight, but as usual, went dead off of Alaskan airspace.
I had never flown transpacific during the middle of winter, and it really does get quite dark even though it is a daytime flight. Unfortunately, as we approached Japan, the sun was already behind the horizon, so pictures and landing video conditions were not good enough for my cheap point and shoot camera. It was however interesting to hear all of the traffic as we neared the coast of Japan. Huge amounts of US bound traffic and incoming US traffic, though seemed to be very little Asian traffic other than the odd Korean Air, or Asiana. I swear to God that during the entire 12 hour flight, there was not ONE bump of turbulence, it was quite smooth.
We were served a meal about an hour after take off. Of course, when we boarded at Chicago, we were given glasses of Champagne, and the upper deck seemed to have more of a party atmosphere to it. It was really only half full up there, and nobody had a seat mate, which was great because I could watch the Airshow as well as the movies. I was hoping for the new international business class, but was disappointed on all 4 of my 747 flights. The dinner consisted of warm nuts, and I chose the Asian dinner, which was a combination of Sushi, selected meats, Miso Soup, and had Cheese and Fruit for dessert with Baileys and coffee.
Landing in NRT was very smooth. I don't think you can EVER make a terribly hard landing in a 747. It was dark when we landed, so I didn't get to see much of anything as I was in a rush to get to UA890 NRT-BKK. At NRT, connecting passengers must go through a second security check where they check your passport and your ticket. The line was very short and I walked directly upstairs to gate 37 and boarded the flight to BKK which was almost already boarded. This flight was full upstairs and people were partying! Remember, it was Jan 31st now, and we would most likely be on the flight as we entered 2009. Champagne was flowing and people were laughing and talking and taking pictures. Mostly Americans, but with Asian flight attendants based at NRT.
Our flight attendants for the upper deck on the flight to BKK were an older couple, who had previously worked for Pan Am when they had a base at NRT. They've been married for 30 years and met through the airline industry. The woman, can't remember he name, was a stubby little Thai lady with a really fun and LOUD personality! She was hilarious. She greeted everyone with a big "HAPPY NEW YEAR!" as we entered the upper deck and came along with champagne saying, "Have some champagne! It's on US! REALLY CHEAP TOO!" Everyone was dying laughing.
I sat next to a guy from San Francisco who was headed to BKK for partying, which I guess is what a lot people do. We talked quite a bit about BKK and where we were staying, etc. He was a nice guy.
Flight Time: 6h35min
The Bangkok flight was longer than I expected. I don't know why I was thinking it would be shorter, but it wasn't and considering we had a 195-200MPH head wind until we hit the South China Sea, it was sort of obvious it would be taking us a while to get to BKK. The flight was very rough most of the way. It was night and day from my North Pacific Crossing. We flew over the Pacific, toward Naha, Taipei, through Vietnam, and into Thai Airspace. Channel 9 was not on, and I wasn't really in the mood to ask for it. I was TIRED!! The flight was about as long as JFK-LHR!
We landed somewhere over Thailand, on our descent into BKK, the captain came on and wished us a happy new year as it was now Jan 1st, 2009. People, clapped as they sipped champagne and we were well into the BKK area. The lights were beautiful and we kept trying to look out the window to make out the airport. We flew south, toward the ocean and turned back and landed.
As we landed, the pilot braked, and threw on the reversers. That's when I hear glass shattering and something banging it's way down the aisle like a bowling ball. The flight attendants had forgotten to stow one of the trollies properly and it flew all the way down the aisle and smashed into the cockpit door. The pilot pulled the aircraft off of the runway and stopped and one of the officers came out to check that everything was okay. The old couple flight attendants were laughing about it and were picking up all the dishes and broken glass already. (They must be really seasoned vets, and well respected because other NRT based flights attendants know them).
We taxied for a while at Suvarnabhumi. BTW, it's pronounced, "Swa-na-poom." It was sort of dead at this time of night, though I did see an Austrian 777-200ER readying itself for take off, presumably to Vienna. We parked at D4, which is a central widebody gate at BKK, next to a Thai A345. Was interesting to see that aircraft.
Suvarnabhumi is BEAUTIFUL at night. They do a great job with lighting and the architecture is just outstanding. Probably one of the most beautiful airports in the world. Even the jetways are a class act with etchings of Siamese scenes on the glass.
It was a fairly long walk to immigration where I made it through very quickly. Thai immigration takes your picture and then gives you a 30 day visa, then sends to to collect your baggage. Customs was closed, I had nothing I was bringing in anyway. I went out into the arrivals hall and met my Cousin and His Thai wife for the first time and they took me to my hotel, The Shangri-La on the Chao Phraya.
The Shangri-La hotel is a 5 star hotel right down the river from the Mandarin Oriental and across the river from the Peninsula Hotel. I believe it is more popular with Europeans than Americans as well as Australians because I think I was the only American Accent. It was elegantly decorated and wonderfully staffed with very attentive professionals who are at your beck and call for anything you need during your stay. It had a lovely HUGE terrace on the river for outdoor dining with a bar, pool, and lounge. They also have an upscale bar suit and tie only place on the lobby level. Marble and fresh flowers everywhere. The rooms were wonderful as well decorated with traditional Thai furniture and ammenities.
I spent most of my time in Bangkok going to random restaurants with my cousins, eating food that went right through my stomach, and sight seeing, as well as doing some shopping, VERY CHEAP! The Thai people are wonderful, welcoming, and very interested in foreigners.
Flight time: 5h5min
UA 890 (Continuing to LAX)
I woke up around 4AM and scheduled a hotel car to take me to the airport. It's about a 20 min drive from the hotel to Suvarnabhumi (Sorry, it's just fun to spell). I got to ride in a tricked out 745Li BMW with flat screen TV's in the rear. Was a great way to get to the airport by chauffeur. It was about 5AM when I arrived at BKK and went right up to the United Check in Counter. I requested a window seat as I didn't have a seat assignment, but all the seats were sold out for this flight, unfortunately. Immediately after passing through security, the security agent pointed me towards the Thai Royal Silk lounge which was not open until 5:55AM, so I browsed the not yet open shopping throughout the concourse. They have SO many shops at BKK! Finally I made it to the Thai Royal Silk lounge and it was like entering a swanky night club. The furnishings, food, drinks, everything was amazing with flat screen TVs and monitors EVERYWHERE! The staff were great as well. They had delicious pastries and cakes as well as espresso and fruit stocked for breakfast. It wasn't very crowded, then again, the lounge was HUGE. They have a great internet office area, as well as private areas where you can sleep, lounge, and watch TV. The bathrooms were beautiful marble and I believe had showers as well.
When I noted that my flight was ready for boarding, I headed down to gate D2. At BKK, you walk down a huge ramp and are greeted by another team of security just for that specific flight and asked questions as they search your carry-ons, again, very friendly though and service with a smile. I was the first person to board when they called Business and First Class, and was greeted with a smile and hello on the plane.
I was on the lower deck for the flight to NRT, and we had a wonderful young and attentive NRT based flight crew. I got to chat with them during the downtimes between services during the flight and one was from Guam, one from Kentucky, one from Tokyo, and one who was originally from Bangkok. I told them about the couple flight attendants on my flight into BKK and they knew their names and laughed about them being such a funny couple and told me about their history with Pan Am. The NRT flight crews must be very tight and have a great comraderie.
We were served a breakfast with fresh tropical fruit, some sort of egg omlette, and mimosas, though I wasn't really up for alcohol that early in the morning.
The flight was rather boring, but we crossed over Vietnam, into the South China Sea, Over Taipei, and into NRT. It was interesting being in the middle seat and seeing out both sides pretty clearly. You get an idea of how large the 744 is!
During our taxi, we passed quite a few Asian carriers and TONS of NW aircraft as well as UA. It looked like a US airport at NRT!
I made my way through the passport check which was really heavy in traffic. I suppose everyone was arriving from their intra-asian flights to depart to the US. After clearing that area, I went to the Business Class lounge and hung out, chatted with a few a.netters on the computers available and had a few drinks. The lounge there wasn't as nice as the BKK Thai Royal Silk lounge, but it was definitely better than sitting in the departure lounge.
I got to chat with a few people that were on my BKK flight at the Business class lounge at NRT and made some friends, exchanged email addresses, and found several people who actually live, or had lived in Oklahoma! Such a small world, especially when they know people you do!
Finally, I went to the gate as my flight was ready to board. It was a newly painted UA 747-400. I was on the upper deck this time, 2nd row from the front, window seat.
Flight Time: Approx 11hrs.
Again, it's more of a party cozy atmosphere up in the upper deck, and I prefer it over the lower deck. It seems lighter and more airy, despite being smaller. I got a chance to visit the cockpit and talk with the flight officers and got a chance to take a snapshot of the cockpit. I asked them if they knew of A.net, and one of them said, OH YES! I love that website! So if you are out there, HEY! and thanks for the shot!
To be honest, I slept most of this flight. There wasn't much to see as it was in complete darkness. We flew over the ocean most of the flight until hitting the West Coast of Canada and down into the US. We pulled up to the international Terminal at ORD and it was a mess. Boy you knew you were back in the US. Rude TSA's, Customs, etc., yelling at people who didn't even speak english. Flight 882 was coupled with a Lufthansa flight from Dusseldorf on the baggage carousel which really was annoying. So many people and flights from all over the world were arriving about that time too. I cleared customs, was welcomed back to the US, and froze my butt off (was in shorts since it was almost 90 in BKK) trying to get to my gate for my flight to OKC.
The OKC flight was your typical ExecPlus Regional Jet flight on a CRJ-700. Nothing special, but was glad to be home.
Again, sorry for not writing the report directly. I'm headed out to a job interview tomorrow at 6AM in Illinois so I've been really busy, and my browser kept crashing on me just as I'd get something uploaded.
Overall, UA business class is not anywhere NEAR up to par with other airlines, and until they get the lie-flat seats, it's not worth it, unless you get a $3500 fare like I did all the way to BKK. Food service is poor, presentation was okay. But I gotta hand it to the NRT flight crew and Asian airports and service in general. It's fantastic!
Go see AMAZING Thailand if you can! There's something there for everyone, and it's CHEAP!
UAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7431 times:
Can anyone tell me as to why the front flaps (sorry, I can't remember the specific name for them for the 747, though I know they are not slats) were retracted after take off then during the turn to the left, they were extended again? Never seen this happen before. Not sure what was going on with the trailing edge flaps, just seemed interesting to me as I didn't hear the engines increase thrust as if we were too heavy and too slow to have a clean configuration.