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Aer Lingus Weekend Trip DUB - MUC - DUB  
User currently offlineMcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 319 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 7 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4932 times:

Aer Lingus #572 26/10/01
SKD DEP: Dublin Ireland 0730
SKD ARR: Munich Germany 1055
ACT DEP: 0757
ACT ARR: 1101
Boeing 737-500 EI-CDH (St. Ronan del 27/4/92)

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Due to the downturn in the aviation industry there really are some bargains to be had out there with regards to airfares. I hadn’t planned any more weekends away since I had already been to Paris only 3 weeks before and have a trip to Manchester coming in November. But for the money I just couldn’t resist a trip to Germany. The fare was $110.00 roundtrip. The bad part about it was that I would have to travel during the morning rush at Dublin airport. This time wasn’t as bad as the last time I went out to Paris (reported already). Check in was already open for Europe with separate lines for Germany, Italy, Paris, and Brussels. Germany had a very long line since there was my flight to Munich, and the others to Frankfurt and Dusseldorf. But I was anticipating that come 600am that another 1 or 2 desks would open. Sure enough this did and I ran on up to the front of the line probably saving myself about 40 minutes of a wait. I was a bit surprised when I looked at the boarding pass to see that my flight was going out of the A gates at Dublin. For anyone who is familiar with Dublin the A gates are the ones that you walk out to the plane and use either the built in airstairs or the truck to board. It’s very old fashioned and in this day and age a very big security risk. Simply put this should not be allowed.

Fortunately I was seated in the first row of economy at 4D. The EI 737 fleet is starting to show their age when compared with newer airbus’ and the new 777 style interior featured on many of the new Boeings. Nonetheless I still enjoy flying the 737 more than the 320 or 321 that EI operate. I find the seat pitch to be more generous (well hey us Americans did build those Boeings!) than the European Airbus. The downside of this flight was that there was no inflight entertainment. I didn’t anticipate any but for a flight scheduled at 2 hours 35 minutes you need to be prepared by bringing something on with you or be prepared for utter boredom.

Very shortly after takeoff our breakfast was served. I call this the standard Europe flight breakfast. I received the exact same thing 3 weeks ago on a flight to CDG. I actually like this breakfast and the entire tray was finished….which for economy food is pretty unusual for me. So, it consisted of a cup of OJ, a scone, a roll, a cup of tea/coffee, and then for the main meal two sausages, a slice of bacon, and black pudding. And yes, I did eat the black pudding…..I’ve had better but it wasn’t bad. What I really prefer is the white pudding! You’re all probably thinking I’m insane!

So, after the breakfast the cabin crew disappeared for the remainder of the flight until just before the approach to Munich when they came around with the inflight shopping. Nothing but crap if you ask me. But for some reason people did buy some of it!

Arrival at Munich was very efficient. Our gate was literally 2 minutes away from the baggage claim and baggage was delivered expeditiously. The airport in, my opinion is the best I have ever been in, but I will comment more on that in my return flight report. I followed the signs for the S-Bahn to take me to the Hauptbahnof (Central station). I boarded the train and exactly 40 minutes later I was in the center of Munich. The train was absolutely amazing for a suburban service and puts our Metro North RailRoad in New York to shame. It was 16,00 DEM one way for the journey. I didn’t think that was a lot of money considering the length of the journey.

Now, normally I just do flight reports but this time I am going to babble on a bit more on my 2 days in Germany. So, anyone who doesn’t want to read this can now just skip on down the return report.

People always ask why I don’t stay in Hostels when I travel in Europe. For most of you who recognize my reports and have read them you probably know I am a student over here doing my law degree. I hate hostels, period. I probably would stay in them when I travel with friends but on my own absolutely no way. Especially now, with all the US haters out there now. So, I found a rate of $109 per night on Travelocity for the Four Points Arabella Sheration Central Hotel Munchen. It was one of those rates you had to prepay so this actually suited me just fine. The hotel was quite a walk from the Hauptbahnof and on the way to it there was a load of seedy hotels. The area was good it was just some of the other hotels that bothered me. It seemed to me that any of the good hotels that are in Munich are all located a good bit away from the city center. While the city center is loaded with hostels, pensiones and budget hotels. I thought the hotel was great. I got a free breakfast included with it in the morning which is something I never get when I travel to the UK.

The first day in Munich I decided that the shopping would have to come later than sooner because I had the weekend planned out with things I wanted to do. So the Friday I went off to the BMW Museum and the Olympic Park. Since I arrived at my hotel at 1pm these two events took me right up into the evening. Both sights are well worth a visit if in Munich. After that then I decided that since the shops are open until 8 I would go down to the Marienplatz to check out if there were any toy shops. Yeah even at 20 I am still a kid at heart. I found a Steiff Galerie on the Neuhauserstrasse where I got a really nice Snowman for my sister for Xmas. Then up at the other end of the shopping thoroughfare at the Karlsplatz I found an FAO like toy store. It’s coming up on Xmas so the Marklin trains will be coming out and it’s the only time of the year I take an interest in them so it was convenient to be in Germany now. I was like a kid in a candy store here. Unfortunately, I was on a little bit of a budget but I did manage to pick up a few carriages. The prices were very reasonable…..much much cheaper than US retail. And everywhere I went people spoke perfect English.

The next day I had planned to go to Fuessen to see Ludwig’s castles. I had checked out the DB website to see how much this excursion was going to cost me so I had planned on about 72,00 DEM. I planned on taking the 8:51am train which got me into Fuessen at 10:57am. But the ticket agent said that if I got a weekend ticket it was only 40,00 DEM and that I could go anywhere in Germany provided I didn’t use the InterCityExpress or EuroCity trains. So, that was great. And the trains in Germany run on time and I arrived in Fuessen at exactly 10:57am. I grabbed the bus and that took me to the castles which were 5km away. All I can say is that visiting these castles was the most unbelievable experience in my life and it is well worth the journey to get there. It’s a tourist trap but at least it is enjoyable. It was very busy the day I was there and I could only imagine what it must be like in the summer.

I saw Hohenshwangou first and then Neuschwanstein second. Once I climbed up to Neuschwanstein I was starved and grabbed a bockwurst and sprite for lunch. Absolutely delicious. I grabbed another after I took the tour! By the time I finished all the walks and tours it was nearly 5pm and I still had a 2 – 21/2 hour journey back to Munich so I figured I had better get a move on. So, I grabbed the 6.05pm train back. It was loaded with people…mostly Japanese tourists. We arrived back at the Hauptbahnof on time at 8.16pm. By the time I grabbed some snacks for the hotel it was 9.00pm and I still had the ½ hour walk back.

Thank god it was the night for the clocks to go back so I could get some sleep!!!!

The next day, my last day, I spend walking around Munich until 5pm because all the shops were closed. I went to the English Garden for a walk. This is the park that allows nude sunbathing….none of that the day I was there….what a shame….but I did get to visit the Beer Garden up by the Chinese Tower. My god…..I drank a whole liter of Lowenbrau! Fortunately, I got another bockwurst and a pretzel to absorb all that alcohol! You have to pay a deposit for the glass but I stole that as a souvenir. I went back to the hotel to collect my luggage and it was back off to the Munich Airport.

Aer Lingus #579 28/10/01
SKD DEP: Munich Germany 1940
SKD ARR: Dublin Ireland 2115
ACT DEP: 2006
ACT ARR: 2125
Boeing 737-400 EI-BXB (St. Gall del. 27/10/89)

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So I was on the S-Bahn back to Munich at 4.52 pm which would arrive at 5:35 into the Munich Airport. I knew I was going early but at least the shops in Munich Airport would be open! I found my way to the D check in where BA was the handling agent for the flight. Despite BA handling flights to LHR and Manchester as well there was no line whatsoever. The nicest lady checked me in. She even turned the computer screen towards me so I could pick my seat. So I took 4D again. I wanted to buy more trains and figured there would be a toy shop at the airport and sure enough I found it. The airport is quite remarkable. It reminded me of a shopping mall with check-in desks every so many feet. Just like the mall they even had maps of where the shops were. So, the toy shop was disappointing because they only sold engines and not carriages. Engines would do me no good due to the difference in voltage. Pity though, because they were much cheaper than the US. Figured I would have one last beer so I went to the airbrau…the airport beer garden. What an amazing place. I also was able to get another souvenir!

90% of the shops were pre-security so I held out as long as I could before going to the gate. The line for security ended up being 25 minutes. There were 3 stations open with 4 people working each. One person put your stuff on the belt. Another monitored the metal detector….and gave the wand to every passenger regardless if you set the detector off. Another person was controlling the xray machine. And there were 2 screens to view the xray. One was for the technician and the other was for the lady at the end of the belt who was looking for computers and electronics. Security was tight but of course I didn’t mind. It just annoys me though to see that some people haven’t gotten the message that nail clippers and scissors are not allowed on board.

I went over to the gate and boarding already had begun and I noticed a 737-400 parked at the gate. I thought maybe I had read my itinerary wrong because I was sure that a 500 was scheduled. I’ve never been on the 400 so I was delighted. There wasn’t really any difference between the two only that the 400 had 26 rows while the 500 has 20. Fortunately, no one was sitting next to me so it was a very enjoyable flight. The flight was about 2/3 full but I think it would have been full if the 500 operated the flight.

The meal was the standard evening meal. You got a tray with a choice of sandwich….I get the chicken and bacon. Also a cup of water, cup of tea/coffee, and a cookie. After that complimentary bar service. Flight was late leaving Munich due to ATC restrictions but it wasn’t too long.

We touched down in Dublin at 925 pm and parked at a remote stand. We had to wait 25 minutes for a bus to come get us. Now, I have to say I had a great weekend but coming back to Dublin Airport spoiled it all. Aer Rianta need to give Ryanair another terminal. There isn’t enough room for all the planes coming and going at Dublin anymore. The management are incompetent nepotists and the airport is poorly managed at that.

Baggage was going round by the time we arrived and I went out to catch the aircoach into the city center where I live. I arrived in my place at 1045pm.

It was a great weekend and I would love to go back to Germany….it’s well worth a visit.

18 replies: All unread, jump to last
User currently offlineJsmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 4781 times:

Thanks so much for your trip report. I have not flown with EI before, but have heard generally positive comments.

I was interested to read that you are studying law in Dublin?

I was studying for my Master of Laws at the University of London in 1998-99 before returning to Australia. I am now qualified and work for Ansett Worldwide in Sydney. It is a dream job for an aviation enthusiast - despite the chaos that is going on in the industry.

I had a fantastic time in the UK and like you, managed to do some short trips which were amazingly cheap. I will have to do a trip report on them at some point.

Do you plan/want to get into the aviation industry after you have graduated?

All the best and good luck with your studies.


User currently offlineTeahan From Ireland, joined Nov 1999, 5446 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (14 years 7 months 20 hours ago) and read 4768 times:


Brilliant trip report, definitely one of the best in ages. I live in Ireland (Co. Kerry)

Where in Dublin are you studying? Trinity? UCD? I am considering going to Trinity next year to study Business & French or Business & German.

If you think EIDW is bad now, you should seriously have seen it a few years back.


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (14 years 7 months 14 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

Hi there,
wow! what a superb trip report!

Did you really walk all the way from the central station to the Four points? I guess that was quite a workout  Smile (there is a subway station right next to the hotel  Smile )

And, you mentioned that the hotels around the central station are quite shabby. Well, you're right, the better hotels are either around the Marienplatz or outside downtown

Glad you liked your trip


User currently offlineMcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (14 years 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 4740 times:


Yeah, I really did walk all that way. Several times too! It wasn't really that long. I realised the second day that there was a U-Bahn stop right there. To be honest now I did find the ticketing for the U-Bahn to be very confusing and it ended up being easier to walk! I would stay at the Four Points though again.

All the best


User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (14 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 4735 times:

Haha  Smile you're not the only one who finds in confusing! I, sometimes, have trouble with the system too, especially when going to rather remote destinations or within groups. But that is not too surprising, since I only live here for twenty years now.


User currently offlineMcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 4731 times:


Yes, studying law at Trinity here in Dublin. Now in 3rd year so time here is coming to a close very quickly! It's been very nice being over here. Fares are very reasonable and it certainly has bumped up my EI and AA mileage.

As for getting into Aviation when I leave college...from what I understand there are positions out there for lawyers. I have seen Aviation Safety Law as a major topic. It's something that interests me at the moment but I will be going back to the US to do postgrad work so it is a ways down the line yet.


User currently offlineMcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 4728 times:

Jeremiah -

I do law at TCD. It's a great experience and I have no regrets. I've been going in and out of Dublin since 1995...more frequently over the past 2 years. I found it better in 1995 than today. Granted it was December and February when I made those trips. I still was on a few of those early morning flights and did not find it that bad. Now....don't even get me started with that airport. I know JFK in New York is a mess but I will take that any day over DUB.



User currently offlineJsmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4715 times:


All the best with your further studies - hope you manage to combine your interest in aviation with law in some way. There are positions out there - it is just a matter of trying to convince people that you have a long standing obsession with aviation that is the hard bit! Here at Ansett Worldwide, I am the only lawyer in our group who has a genuine interest in aviation but that is fine. Others come from aviation backgrounds but mostly by accident or because the opportunity came up. One of our lawyers was previously with El Al.

I actually enjoy coming into work each day and that is something many people would like to be able to say.

Enjoy the rest of your time in Europe.

User currently offlineShamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (14 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4702 times:

we should rename the forum Trinity coz i do Russian & Business there too.

great trip report- nexy time your in Munich check out the Marriott, it's pretty new and cheap at the weekend.

totally agree with you about Aer Rianta, i reckon Nairobi airports a hell of a lot better managed, and thats saying something.


User currently offlineTeahan From Ireland, joined Nov 1999, 5446 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (14 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4697 times:


Mcmahonsmr, thanks for your reply.

Shamrock104, I have been looking for someone doing a Language & Business course in Trinity for quite a while. How are you finding it? Would you recommend it?


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineShamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (14 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4687 times:


yeah, go for it, it's pretty good - Russian sure is a lot of work though, have had to cut down my travelling, then so is German/French. There are a lot of people doing these business subjects though, especially french/german. beats UCD any day though. would definately recommend it.


User currently offlineGreenjet From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 1025 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (14 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4681 times:

Ah now, less of the UCD bashing please

User currently offlineShamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (14 years 6 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4661 times:

in fairness though, UCD is a joke.

User currently offlineTeahan From Ireland, joined Nov 1999, 5446 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4661 times:


Thanks Shamrock104. BTW, why is UCD a joke, just in case I consider going there..


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineGreenjet From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 1025 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4653 times:

UCD's business courses have developed a better reputation than Trinity's which is more of an arty farty type place with American tourists wandering around. UCD though is a bit of a dump. Anyway this is an aviation forum. I think.

User currently offlineShamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4640 times:

Greenjet, yeah I agree about the American Tourists, and to relate this to Aviation, what percentage of Trinity as opposed to UCD students fly Aer Lingus as opposed to CO/DL anyway?

User currently offlineGreenjet From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 1025 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

Ah that can be the subject of me next thesis...

User currently offlineMcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (14 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4630 times:

To one and all -

It's nice to see that I am not the only nutter in TCD who has an obsession with flying and aviation. I thought I was in a very serious minority....obviously the law faculty just doesn't have it together. With regards to the airlines I fly.....I usually fly Aer Lingus exclusively. There TAB programme has been very good to me. However, being American I do have a preference on US airlines. I love American Airlines, they really are my favourite. Before you all start to crack up try flying their 777-200 from JFK to LHR and their 737-800s. I also have a thing about their A300-600s for some reason too. I also loving seeing those AA tails moving about the airports here in Europe. And the AAdvantage program is also extremely good. Oneworld has been a big help. And GO BA/AA!!!!!!


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