BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8264 posts, RR: 56 Posted (4 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 21720 times:
It was about 4 years ago I had my last spotting jolly to asia, another was over due. Thankfully Mrs BA319-131 was as supportive as ever of my hobby
After looking at various options, a QF/BA combo looked best for the to/from Asia + allowed me to get on the QF A380. The intra asia flights were with Star Alliance carriers and the domestics in Japan would be split between ANA & JAL.
Mrs BA319-131 dropped me off at Heathrow’s Terminal4:-
I’ve not flown out of T4 for about a year, quite a bit of construction going on at the moment
You have to enter via the arrivals area at the moment
Check-in was smooth and efficient, though the agent was either slightly deaf of her English needed a bit of an upgrade! I had wanted a window in the front section of the Business cabin, had been wanted to get some nice engine shots in flight, however all the seats were taken.
More upgrade works
Through the Fast Track entrance to security, nice cheery chap checking the BP’s, makes a change!
The queue at Fast Track’s single x-ray machine was as long if not longer that for the regular line, I always seem to find that when travelling through this terminal.
Airside!
Departures board
Did the usual, changed money, bought a memory stick then went to see if I couple get a picture of OQB, here she is, my ride to SIN.
Note the Business & Premium Economy entrance.
QF32 departs from gate 6 today, handy as it is opposite the BA Gate 1 lounge, which was my next destination.
Lounge was ok, nothing special, the food quantities seemed to be quite reduced since the majority of BA’s flights moved to T5.
As usual all the decent window seats were taken.
I grabbed a few papers and a cup of coffee, had to wait for more bacon butties though as they had all gone.
Time passed ok, boarding was announced at 10:32, so headed down to the gate, hoped to get on quite early to get some decent cabin shots, no such luck, quite a queue had formed at 6b for Business & Premium Economy passengers.
Despite the pretty decent signage, people still managed to get into the wrong queue’s, read the signs!
Greeted at the door by a smiling FA who checked my boarding pass and said ‘ down on the left Mr BA319-131’
I settled in and one of the FA’s appeared, he welcomed me aboard the Qantas A380 and introduced himself as Pun.
Pun advised he and Linda would be looking after our cabin section today, OJ, Water & Champagne was offered along with directions to the toilets.
I took champagne, not sure of the brand but seemed pretty decent.
The cabin is quite dark compared to the EK cabin, but QF have fitted this out with dark carpets and grey/black seat shells, so it’s to be expected.
I had hoped the seat next to me would remain empty however no such luck. Later I walked the plane, Business and Premium Economy were full, regular economy had just a few empty seats, where is the credit crunch?
After I finished my champagne, Pun appeared and took the glass, I asked for another to which he replied no problem, it never arrived...............
Amenity packs and pajamas were offered out and breakfast menus were completed.
Not really sure what I was expecting, but given the presentation , I though it would be something special, wrong, pretty dull compared to the EK ones but on a par with BA’s offerings.
The front office advised we would be delayed pushing back today as the IFE system had developed a fault and needed re-booting, in addition, they would de-ice the aircraft after that before pushing back.
Due to the long wait, it would have been nice if the offered some water or something as the cabin became quite hot, alas not the case.
Push finally occurred at 12:11 and OQB headed over for a 09R departure, having to hold for some minutes for departing traffic.
Air Canada holding whilst we cross:-
Our turn finally came, lined up to t/o after a BA 319.
T5 construction works:-
After a 51 t/o roll, wheels came up at 12:47 local time, just over and hour and a half behind schedule, will be interesting to see what time we will arrive...............
The seat belt sign was extinguished 5 minutes after t/o, not long after that hot towels came around.
Seat tray:-
View from the window:-
Hot towels collected and soon Pun appeared to take drinks orders, since I’d not had one since my last visit to Australia, it has to be a good old glass of VB!
The drinks were served via a tray rather than from the trolly, nice but it takes longer to get served, my drink arrived around 12:35.
Let's relax a little:-
The meal cards came out at 13:45 ish, the 1st offering being the chicken salad starter, was ok, nothing special, the chicken was pretty tasteless to be honest.
The knives were plastic, mine was dirty,had to clean it on my napkin, I guess they re- use these:-
Drinks were topped up and orders taken for the main. Despite not liking horseradish sauce I took the beef, which was pretty good, nice dish. It was served individually by tray not via a cart.
My tray table did not lie flat so I had to place a newspaper under the table cloth to try and help keep the tray flat.
Desert was served via the trolly, I took the tart which was quite nice, though I’m sure the cream was single rather than double.
Starting to get dark as we head east:-
I had planned to change into the PJ top, however the light turbulence got a bit rougher, service was suspended and everybody was asked to be seated.
Typical, as soon as everyone was seated, the turbulence stopped however the seatbelt sign remained illuminated for a good 5 minutes to ensure we had passed the rough air.
Seat belt sign got extinguished and I went to get changed, upon my return tea and coffee was wing served, bottles of water were also dished out at this time.
Toilets are nothing special,
not even a window:-
Existing empty glassware was removed & I asked Pun for a glass of champagne, the red was good but too heavy to continue with whilst I did A.NET work, with a bit of reading to follow.
Have I enough windows?
Night came, window blind were closed and most settled in for the night, I did to, perhaps got 2 hours or so but not too much on this flight, not sure why, normally sleep really well on planes, just ask Mrs BA319-131!
A few glasses of champagne, a trip to the lounge, chat with the crew and a jolly downstairs brought me back to my seat and a spot of music.
The Business Class lounge:-
Qantas logo at the top of the stairs, these lead down to First class
Crew office area:-
Economy at night:-
Business @ night:-
Business Class 'snack' area:-
Economy:-
What's on the IFE?
Love this show!
And this one, a real classic!
Wow, Human League, they are brill!
There is plenty of decent films and various other shows to keep you occupied for hours, as usual, I didn't use it, just perused to see what it was like.
Where are we now?
With just over 2 hours to arrival,breakfast was served, you could smell it before it arrived, funny how hungry you can get sitting around doing very little!
After breakfast I had a freshen up and got changed back into normal clothes, funny to see so may people around in Qantas pj’s!
Daylight breaks:-
Seat controls in the dark:-
The remainder of the flight was uneventful, just listened to music, looked out the window and got another coffee.
Descent:-
Approach into SIN brought us over the harbour area, still find it amazing to see all the ships anchored in the harbour.
OQB touched down at 08:57, 57 minutes behind schedule, quite a few passengers were transferring to the Perth flight, Qantas was holding the plane for these passengers.
Windows steamed up, pretty humid outside today - that's the Perth flight.
Once at the gate, the usual scrum as everyone tries to get all their stuff out of the lockers whilst those from the rear of the plane are trying to barge past to get off first.
Once off I headed to immigration, got in the very small queue only to remember I needed to fill out an immigration form, I wish Qantas had reminded passengers they needed to do this or passed out forms on the plane – by the time I filled one out and got back in the queue, it had grown much larger!
Overall QF were pretty good, nothing special but there is nothing to complain about, quite happily use them again, may very well use them again if we visit Australia at the end of the year.
Hope you enjoyed the trip & pictures,sorry some were a little shaky, feel free to drop comments or ask any questions.
Hope to have the next installment up in a day or two.
Shamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6100 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 21573 times:
Hi Mark,
Great report, really enjoyed it! I saw your aircraft as it climbed over west London that lunch time, I pointed it out to my friends but they weren't exactly as enthusiastic as I was about seeing a QF A380!
Sounds like Qantas got the job done but sometimes you'd want just a little bit more from them than that, something to "wow" you, especially when flying in business on their flagship aircraft.
PHLstudent From United States of America, joined May 2006, 498 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 21564 times:
You've finally been on every operater of the 380, sounds like emirates was the best to date?
Was the seat comfrotable? Is that perhaps why you could not sleep?
Great report, looking forward for the NH installments.
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8264 posts, RR: 56 Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 21496 times:
Thanks for the reads and comments,
Quoting Directorguy (Reply 1): Smashing report, great to see anything involving Business Class, Heathrow and the A380. Qantas seems to offer a decent enough service in J.
- Glad you liked, Qantas are just fine, they give you a solid service.
Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 2): Sounds like Qantas got the job done but sometimes you'd want just a little bit more from them than that, something to "wow" you, especially when flying in business on their flagship aircraft.
- Exactly, they do the job just fine, but you feel something is missing, shame.
Quoting PHLstudent (Reply 3): You've finally been on every operater of the 380, sounds like emirates was the best to date?
- Yep, got there & yes, EK are are the best to date from my experience.
Quoting PHLstudent (Reply 3): Was the seat comfrotable? Is that perhaps why you could not sleep?
- Seat was just fine, I was perhaps too excited about the whole trip, by contrast I slept really well on the return flight on BA.
Quoting PHLstudent (Reply 3): Great report, looking forward for the NH installments.
Rogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1135 posts, RR: 19 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 21421 times:
Hola Mark!
Thanks for this super TR of the many to come on the Asia connection.
I think you have been the first a.nettter to actually fly/publish TR on the 3 companies operating A380s; congratulations on that!
From our pictures I can see that QF looks the cheapest, if is this word is allowed on J class. The interior looks dark, using plastic knives and the fact of the misangled table, although not major issues in themselves, are not what one may expect from the flagship carrier of a major airline.
Looking forward to reading the next ones.
Salut!
Roger
"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
Thanks for this super TR of the many to come on the Asia connection.
- Hi Roger, thanks for reading, glad you enjoyed
Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 7): I think you have been the first a.nettter to actually fly/publish TR on the 3 companies operating A380s; congratulations on that!
- I think you may well be right, thanks
Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 7): From our pictures I can see that QF looks the cheapest, if is this word is allowed on J class. The interior looks dark, using plastic knives and the fact of the misangled table, although not major issues in themselves, are not what one may expect from the flagship carrier of a major airline
- Certainly true, nothing special at all, nice but could be any plane, will be interesting how AF kit out their 380's.
Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 7): Looking forward to reading the next ones.
- New few days my friend.
Quoting N104UA (Reply 8): Interesting how the safety card is already on issue two only after less then 5 months in service
- Well noted, had not picked up on that!
Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 9): Very nice trip report.Excellent pictures
- Thanks
Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 9): Hope you enjoy the rest of your trip in Asia.
- It was excellet, if tiring, tried to do too much in a short space of time.
NZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 5672 posts, RR: 40 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 20550 times:
Hi Mark,
Another fantastic report, as usual! Great pics. It's amazing to see how different the view is from the upper deck compared with the lower deck. You can cover the wing much better from above but the bottom deck gives you that "close" feeling and it'd be hard to see the wingtip with the wings fully laden with fuel and waiting at the gate.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): Check-in was smooth and efficient, though the agent was either slightly deaf of her English needed a bit of an upgrade! I had wanted a window in the front section of the Business cabin, had been wanted to get some nice engine shots in flight, however all the seats were taken.
Did BA not allow you to check in online on your QF flight?
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): since I’d not had one since my last visit to Australia, it has to be a good old glass of VB!
Wise decision.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): My tray table did not lie flat so I had to place a newspaper under the table cloth to try and help keep the tray flat.
Sankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1298 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 20419 times:
I think Qantas has missed a trick with the A380 business class. They really should have moved to a next-gen seat rather than a go with a tweaked version of the crowded and clumsy, plastic-clad 744 J class seats!
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3687 posts, RR: 31 Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 20371 times:
Another great report Mark!
I noticed the coffee cups are the same design as Qantas use in the F SYD lounge, I like the contemporary design a lot
Also at T4 the gate has a Business & Premium Economy sign, do F have their own jetbridge and the same for Y too?
The T4 changes over the last 18 months have been pretty remarkable. I don't even recognise the location Fast Track security photo!
Looking forward to seeing the rest of your reports!
Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 7): The interior looks dark, using plastic knives and the fact of the misangled table
The reason Qantas use the plastic knives an Australian regulation. I had the same in QF First from SYD-LAX and on BA's SIN-SYD flight in F. I'll have to dig out a menu but it might have even mentioned in one of them about the regulation only permitting plastic cutlery.
"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
Globetraveller From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 377 posts, RR: 21 Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 20349 times:
Hi there Mark.
This is a great start to what looks to be an excellent trip report series! Six parts!!! I cannot wait for more!
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): though the agent was either slightly deaf of her English needed a bit of an upgrade!
From past experience, I am tempted to say the latter. I guess this is what airlines get when they keep cutting costs.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): quite a queue had formed at 6b for Business & Premium Economy passengers.
Hmmmm... This sort of eliminates the point of the Premium Class priority boarding. I am not sure Premium Economy passengers should be boarding together with the Business Class passengers, because there is still a vast difference between the two products. I think Y and Y+ are still more similar. I guess only First Class passengers will enjoy not having to queue up if this system stays in place.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): The cabin is quite dark compared to the EK cabin, but QF have fitted this out with dark carpets and grey/black seat shells, so it’s to be expected.
I really like the pictures of the cabin, because they show how horribly imposing the Business Class seats really are.
Quoting Sankaps (Reply 14): They really should have moved to a next-gen seat rather than a go with a tweaked version of the crowded and clumsy, plastic-clad 744 J class seats!
I completely agree with this. The cabin ambience is far worse than on the SQ or EK A380s. So much dull plastic!
Ouch... And you did not even get some additional drinks? Very poor.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): The knives were plastic, mine was dirty,had to clean it on my napkin,
This is disgusting and inexcusable. I think the least a passenger can ask for is clean cutlery.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): With just over 2 hours to arrival,breakfast was served, you could smell it before it arrived, funny how hungry you can get sitting around doing very little!
How did the breakfast taste? It actually looks quite appetising, but as we all know, looks can be very deceiving.
Thank you for all your efforts Mark. I look forward to the next part of this series with great enthusiasm.
Airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4015 posts, RR: 52 Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 20347 times:
Hi Mark,
wow, didn't realize that you already left for Asia! You scored now another A380, well done! AF would be next for you??
About your flight; let's say for C on QF, I am not fully impressed to be honest. Seats look good to me, although that table should be of better quality, at least on such a brandnew aircraft. Service wise I don't like the non-delivery of your second glass of champagne pre departure. That's actually pretty bad, but it happened to me also several times (on other carriers of course).
For the rest I think they offer a good product. How was the noise level in the cabin? Since you were seated overwing, I wonder about this...
Have a good time and flights in Asia, will follow your journey the upcoming weeks. As well I hope finally to bring another report online myself (but spare time is hard to find lately)
Cheers,
Eric
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
Sankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1298 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 19990 times:
Quoting QFFlyer (Reply 18): Very similar to First. I understand that Airbus gave no choices for toilet fitout, and QF weren't all that happy about it.
Cheers
Highly unlikely. Galleys, lavs, cabins etc are buyer-specified. Hard to imagine QF had no choices, when EK is installing showers in their A380s!
This is a great start to what looks to be an excellent trip report series! Six parts!!! I cannot wait for more!
- Thanks GT
Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 16): I really like the pictures of the cabin, because they show how horribly imposing the Business Class seats really are
- Yes, came as a bit of a shock once aboard, very somber in the cabin, quite a contrast to the bright and airy SQ & EK cabins.
Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 16): Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
just over and hour and a half behind schedule
Ouch... And you did not even get some additional drinks? Very poor.
- It was really, especailly as the cabin was pretty warm.
Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 16): Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The knives were plastic, mine was dirty,had to clean it on my napkin,
This is disgusting and inexcusable. I think the least a passenger can ask for is clean cutlery.
- Yes, something went wrong in the cleaning dept!
Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 16): How did the breakfast taste? It actually looks quite appetising, but as we all know, looks can be very deceiving.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24898 posts, RR: 60 Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 19312 times:
Mark !!! In as nice a way as possible ......I hate you lol !! You lucky guy. I am soooo envious. I really want to do that trip. Looks great. Fantastic pics and read.
The pic of Mrs A319-131 made me laugh. Can just imagine '' Honey can you please pose for a pic before I jet off in J class on the A380'' lol...
Also your pic with the Kangaroo QF T shirt is funny.
Great read
Philip
OLYMPIC AIR - ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΗ "Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΨΗΛΑ" "GREECE FLYING HIGH"
Nicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 18891 times:
Great trip report! 3 different A380 experiences! You are one lucky guy!
You should send the pictures of the dirty cutlery to QF and demand an explanation. Imagine the cutlery had been cleaned like days ago and the food bits stuck were left to fester in some storage room. Yucks. All the bacteria.
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8264 posts, RR: 56 Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18818 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 22): Mark !!! In as nice a way as possible ......I hate you lol !! You lucky guy. I am soooo envious. I really want to do that trip. Looks great. Fantastic pics and read.
- Ha, thanks Philip, that's really funny!
Quoting OA260 (Reply 22): The pic of Mrs A319-131 made me laugh. Can just imagine '' Honey can you please pose for a pic before I jet off in J class on the A380'' lol...
- Too right!
Quoting OA260 (Reply 22): Also your pic with the Kangaroo QF T shirt is funny.
- Thanks, half the cabin wore them was pretty funny watching everybody queue up to change.
Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 23): 3 different A380 experiences! You are one lucky guy!
- I guess so, not really thought about it until now.
Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 23): You should send the pictures of the dirty cutlery to QF and demand an explanation
- I should have taken a picture before I cleaned it off.
Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 23): Imagine the cutlery had been cleaned like days ago and the food bits stuck were left to fester in some storage room. Yucks. All the bacteria
25 Ojas: Hi Mark, Brilliant TR as usual! I never knew QF started deploying the A380 on the SYD-SIN-LHR routes. good to see LHR getting 3 A380s. The inflight pr
26 BA319-131: - Thanks Ojas. - Yes, started on Jan 17th (I think) and arrives into LHR on Wed, Sat & Sun. Regards Mark
27 Ronerone: Mr. Mark! .. Excellent report as always! You got on another A380!!! haha. The past several QF TR's, including yours show that QF is quite a consistent
28 BA319-131: Hi Roni, Thanks for reading, good to hear from you - still awaiting that KQ(?) TR. - Thank you Sir - I know, and I'm very happy about it too - I would
29 Ronerone: haha yes. Im still working on it. Been so hectic at work so ive had to just write it up in very small bits and pieces whenever i get the chance. In f
31 EK425: Hi Mark, Wow, I am so jealous of you. You have been on A380s from all 3 airlines. I wish I could say that, though I dont think A380s will come to PER
32 BA319-131: Hi EK425, Thanks for reading and dropping a line - Don't be jealous, your time will come - Tell me about it! - Cool, thanks Regards Mark
33 LXfan: Hi Mark ! Thank you for this very complet trip report ! I also must try the A380 !!! It's look great !!
34 BA319-131: - Thanks for reading & yes, the A380 is a great plane to fly on, very quiet and smooth. Regards Mark
35 SQ772: Great report and excellent pictures to go with it. I guess you are probably getting yourself ready to fly AF when their A380s start operations! I've n
36 Smi0006: No it's simply the uniform for First and Buisness class FAs the serving jackets are worn after takeoff and taken off before landing, the girls don't
37 Ba319-131: - Thanks & thanks for dropping a line - It might be on the cards............. Regards Mark
38 Sketty222: What a great read. Some really good pics in there also. I know you normally travel BA so how did you find the Skybed compared to BA's product?, althou
39 Pumaknight: Very cool TR - I am doinng this flight in reverse in November this year...cannot wait. Current;ly I am boked into seat 12a in the upper deck....althou
40 BA319-131: - Thanks Lee - Difficult to say, I slept better in the way back on a BA CW seat, but this might be because I was knackered from this trip. The BA CW
41 PlaneHunter: Hi Mark, excellent report with many great pictures, I had been waiting for this one. However, I'm a bit disappointed by QF's product and their layout.
42 BA319-131: Hi PH, - Thanks for reading - and yes, the QF J product is not special at all, bit of a shame really. - Yes, it's pretty poor, not sure why they bothe
43 B747forever: Great TR Mark. The pics are really good That is really poor. Shouldnt be like that. Stunning! Thank you for sharing B747forever
44 BA319-131: - Thanks, glad you enjoyed the story so far - I know, these little things are quite annoying! - Thanks, I though so too Regards Mark
45 Andrewtang: G'day Mark, That's an awesome report! =) In case you aren't aware, someone actually caught your plane on rotation out of Heathrow. View Large View Med
46 BA319-131: - Glad you liked & thanks for the note about the picture, pretty cool Regards Mark
47 CXtra: Great report Mark, though I agree with you that QF is good, but nothing special. Yes, this stood out to me as well. Love the coffee cups.. now, where'
48 BA319-131: - Thanks for reading & yes, QF are good but as we see, nothing to shout about. - Very true, whilst I would use QF again for another 380 flight, the w
49 Babybus: That steak looked absolutely gorgeous and worth the J class fare just for that. That's the trouble with the A380. It's so excting to travel in such a
50 BA319-131: - Not sure about that, but was one of the best steaks I've had on a plane. - I think that's tru, I really enjoy savouring the moments aboard the quie
51 Contact Air: Hi Mark, Nice to read another A380-report from your side. It was interesting to read about the cabin interior of the Qantas A380 as well, accompanied
52 BA319-131: - Ha, thanks Christoph - Glad if was of interest, especially as tnere are quite a few reviews of the SQ & EK machines not so many for QF's. Regards M
53 Elevate: Fantastic report and great pictures, Mark. You're definitely becoming an A380 frequent flyer!
54 BA319-131: - Glad you enjoyed and yes, one is trying - all being well will add the 1st AF machine later this year and perhaps another QF 380 in December Regards
55 Elevate: Alright for some! It'll be 2010 before I get my first A388 flight... At least it'll be EK J though - something to keep me going, eh?
56 BA319-131: - It's only next year, and J is certainly worth waiting for! - looking forward to the TR already Regards Mark
57 DALCE: Hi mark, Already your 3th ride on the Big Bird , that's quite impressive I would say. I haven't actually seen one in real life, let alone fly on one!
58 DunaA320: Fawlty Towers on QF IFE... brilliant!!! I didnt realise T4 was having so much work done! Great report on the A380, Im looking forward to flying on one
59 BA319-131: - Thanks Joost - You need a day trip to Heathrow then, some days we have 4 per day - I'm sure the day will come. - Great, thanks - I know, some thing
60 DunaA320: Definatly! I know, will be plenty more around im sure espically when BA get theirs, I see them every morning departing from my window at work, makes