BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8263 posts, RR: 56 Posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13946 times:
Hello fellow A.NETTERS, here is part 2 of my 6 part trip.
I planned to cash in BMI mileage and fly on the SQ A380, however SQ blocked out F & J for mileage redemption, at least to BMI, so it had to be ANA & another 767 flight.
05.02.09 NH902 SIN-NRT
767-381 ER JA605A – Business Class, Seat 11A
1st Flight on this aircraft & 29th 767 Flight
SCH DEP 23:25 SCH ARR 07:05
ACT DEP 23:15 ACT ARR 06:37
After a hard says spotting it got dark, no longer able to read of aircraft reg numbers I decided to head over to Terminal 2, though early it would give me a chance to have a look around, I’ve not been in T2 before.
Here is an idea of the views from Terminal 3, not great but better than nothing:-
Took the skytram and a few minutes later I was in T2.
Here are some views of T2:-
Terminal 2 has a viewing area too, not used this one before, will check it out next time
The difference between this and Terminal 3 is amazing, T3 is so light, bright and airy, T2 is not, certainly looking it's age.
Tonight’s flight would be checking in using area 3 so I dropped over to check what time check-in would open – 20:30.
With that in mind, I headed off to have a look around before finishing the last half hour in Starbucks checking home & work e-mails with a much needed coffee.
A few minutes before check-in time I headed over, the area was deserted so I checked in first.
Check-in was smooth, got my BP along with a lounge invitation card to the Singapore Airlines Silver Kris lounge and a map to help me find it.
Immigration was easy, a quick stamp and I was through.
Before heading to the lounge, I headed to the outdoor garden, see if I could catch a final few new planes, sadly it was not to be,it was hot and full of smokers – lounge time instead.
Shopping area
Got to the lounge
they greet you before you step foot in the reception area, is that to stop those not eligible before they get too far?
The lounge is nothing special at all, lacks any outside views, in fact, it’s pretty poor compared to the airlines reputation, drink & food/snack selections were poor – the only beer was on tap and that gave you half a glass of froth!
There is a bar tender but he works 15:30 to 21:00, so not much use to later passengers, thankfully I managed a beer from him before he left for the night.
Being pretty hungry I tried some chicken in a sauce with black pepper, it was pretty tough, guess it had been cooking for a while!
After that I headed to the showers, really felt like a freshen & wake up, spotting had been slow and thus quite tiring, made about 36 new inc SQ's 1st A330-300, 9V-STA.
I think the showers are the best thing about the lounge!
Did a bit more work after the shower:-
As I was packing my bit’s an bob’s up, the screen showed boarding against my flight, bit early I thought but still decided to get down there, just in case!
Fish!
The terminal is very relaxing
Security was quick, no queue and I was soon in the departure gate area, not that many people by the looks of it.
The gate area slowly filled up and boarding for Business Class, Star Gold etc was called at 23:59.
Our plane tonight:-
I was about the third person aboard, welcomed at the door and the direction of the seat pointed out. By the time the doors were closed, Business was about 80% full, the seat next to me was occupied too.
Business is in a 2-1-2 layout
legroom is fine providing you don’t plan to leave your seat, forget trying to get out of your window seat if the person next to you is in full recline!
Also the seats are rock hard, really not comfortable at all, at least not for me.
Menu’s and order cards for breakfast were distributed, breakfast would be served prior to arrival in NRT.
The safety demo was attempted on the monitors twice before the FA’s gave up and went to manual, quite amusing really.
Push occurred at 23:15, some 10 minutes early, pretty impressive, I had expected the lights to be dimmed during taxi but this was not the case.
Camera view:-
Our turn came to depart, quite a bumpy takeoff run, wheels up at 23:28 – I might add, the cabin lights we still fully on, never seen this before when taking off at night, was quite an odd feeling.
Shortly after departure, a light snack was offered with drinks, I took a G&T, my snack choice being a western option, 2 tiny sandwiches and a few batons of carrots & cucumber, quite nice but wish I’d eaten more in the lounge really.
I asked for another drink to knock me out and I got 2, bless her!
It was finally time for the cabin lights to be dimmed, thank goodness! – You really feel it at night, it’s just wrong.
I managed a few hours sleep before being woken up by the cabin lights going back on, it was around about 5am and the breakfast service was starting.
Not bad really, made a real change for the usual breakfast meals served, at least for me anyway.
I finished the whole lot, was pretty hungry, trays were collected and we still have an hour to go, we really did not need to get woken up this early – is this usual on ANA?
Descent started, it had been announced we would be arriving early, here are a few pictures:-
Almost there
Touched down at 06:37 local time
almost 30 minutes early, that said, we had a long taxi back to our gate, so it was pretty much 7am by the time we docked at Terminal 1.
Pulling onto stand
Here is our plane at the gate:-
Next gate:-
Overall ANA were fine, the legroom on these regional services is not that good, but I imagine it is on a par with the other carriers in the area. The service timings could be improved to allow more rest or perhaps it was just this crew? Crew were very helpful, English was ok, not much more to say.
Sorry there are not too many pictures, I was wary of using the camera on the plane, I understand Japanease carriers are not in favour of in flight pictures.
That aside, hope you enjoyed, please feel free to drop any comments or questions.
QFFlyer From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 337 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13854 times:
Hi Mark,
Another great report, makes me feel restles and want to head away again!
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): I planned to cash in BMI mileage and fly on the SQ A380, however SQ blocked out F & J for mileage redemption, at least to BMI, so it had to be ANA & another 767 flight.
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8263 posts, RR: 56 Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13598 times:
Quoting QFFlyer (Reply 1): Another great report, makes me feel restles and want to head away again!
- Me too! - Want to go away again already!
Quoting QFFlyer (Reply 1): Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I planned to cash in BMI mileage and fly on the SQ A380, however SQ blocked out F & J for mileage redemption, at least to BMI, so it had to be ANA & another 767 flight.
Bugger
- Yes, really wanted another A380 ride, could have done economy but I felt lounge access and showers etc were more important, especially after a night flight teh day before.
Quoting Airthanet (Reply 2): Another great trip report. I enjoyed your photos of Singapore T2 and of course the ANA 767.
Looking forward to your next installment.....
- Thanks, glad you liked, next one due up in the next day or so.
Airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4015 posts, RR: 52 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13592 times:
Hi Mark, thanks for the review on NH's international service.
I think NH does well, but it seems they also miss something. I don't like the cabin light dimming soon after airborne. The same happens on JL all the time on flights ex Europe. It's airborne/dinner time/sleeping time. No time to relax a bit.
I once flew MH (NRT-BKI-KUL, B772) and think the servicelevel was slightly higher.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): , we had a long taxi back to our gate, so it was pretty much 7am by the time we docked at Terminal 1.
Yeah, you're a victim of the B-runway at NRT, or 34R in your case. Since NH is on T1 now, you have to taxi quite some time. The runway planning for use is done aforehand and carriers are flights are not allowed to switch to the other runway. This is all created by the noise abatement procedures around NRT.
I have the feeling that NH did not perform their best on your flight.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): Sorry there are not too many pictures, I was wary of using the camera on the plane, I understand Japanease carriers are not in favour of in flight pictures.
Never got any problems on JL, but once on NH upon boarding/seating only. Don't worry too much about that.
Cheers,
Eric
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
Globetraveller From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 377 posts, RR: 21 Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13460 times:
Hi Mark!
That was nice and quick. I did not think the next part would be up so soon. Another great addition to this TR series.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): however SQ blocked out F & J for mileage redemption, at least to BMI
SQ seems to block out most mileage redemptions in F & J most of the time. They are one of the worst airlines to upgrade on, especially on the A380 and 777-300ERs.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): The lounge is nothing special at all, lacks any outside views, in fact, it's pretty poor compared to the airlines reputation, drink & food/snack selections were poor -- the only beer was on tap and that gave you half a glass of froth!
Hmmm... It seems SQ is beginning to neglect its Silver Kris lounge in Terminal 2. Maybe it is time to move all of their operations to Terminal 3?
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): Our turn came to depart, quite a bumpy takeoff run, wheels up at 23:28 -- I might add, the cabin lights we still fully on, never seen this before when taking off at night, was quite an odd feeling.
I though this was against emergency evacuation regulations. I guess the crew just forgot.
Thank you the quick post. I look forward to the next part.
Eric From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13104 times:
Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 5): Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
however SQ blocked out F & J for mileage redemption, at least to BMI
SQ seems to block out most mileage redemptions in F & J most of the time. They are one of the worst airlines to upgrade on, especially on the A380 and 777-300ERs.
SQ blocks (for now) any redemption on the re-config 777 and 380, as well as the 345 for all other *A partners. Members of Krisflyer, in order to redeem, needs to shell out twice the normal milage. The only way you will get a seat on the reconfig is if you book a flight operated by, e.g. 747 from LHR to SIN and it gets sub'd.
Nicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13013 times:
Great second instalment. The SKL in T2 is really disappointing when compared to the T3 one.
ANA Club Asia is a pretty decent J product but it's not SQ. The seats were horribly uncomfortable when I flew them last year on the exact same flight. It was pretty hard to nod off due to the contours of the seat. 80% is not bad, it was 5 J passengers on mine.
Triple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 679 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12976 times:
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): Our turn came to depart, quite a bumpy takeoff run, wheels up at 23:28 – I might add, the cabin lights we still fully on, never seen this before when taking off at night, was quite an odd feeling.
I flew NH BKK-NRT on an overnight flight and it was same thing with cabin lights fully on. They weren't dimmed until after drink service some 30 minutes later. About 2 hours before takeoff when it was still dark outside they were abruptly turned on full blast. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/115221/
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): Sorry there are not too many pictures, I was wary of using the camera on the plane, I understand Japanease carriers are not in favour of in flight pictures.
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8263 posts, RR: 56 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12878 times:
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4): Hi Mark, thanks for the review on NH's international service
- No problem Eric, thanks for reading.
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4): you're a victim of the B-runway at NRT, or 34R in your case. Since NH is on T1 now, you have to taxi quite some time. The runway planning for use is done aforehand and carriers are flights are not allowed to switch to the other runway. This is all created by the noise abatement procedures around NRT.
- I found the whole runway thing quite a mess, JL planes tended to taxi to the runway nearest T1 and NH to the runway nearest T2, lot's of excessive taxi & thus fuel burn.
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4): I have the feeling that NH did not perform their best on your flight.
- Agreed, they were better on a TR to come.
Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 5): That was nice and quick. I did not think the next part would be up so soon. Another great addition to this TR series.
- Thanks GT, woek up at 5 this morning so decied to finish it off.
Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 5): Hmmm... It seems SQ is beginning to neglect its Silver Kris lounge in Terminal 2. Maybe it is time to move all of their operations to Terminal 3?
- Not seen the T3 one, but i'm sure it is a vast improvement over this one.
Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 5): though this was against emergency evacuation regulations. I guess the crew just forgot.
- I thought that to, then it happened on another NH flight.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 7): Hi Mark , excellent 2nd part.
Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 8): ANA Club Asia is a pretty decent J product but it's not SQ. The seats were horribly uncomfortable when I flew them last year on the exact same flight. It was pretty hard to nod off due to the contours of the seat
- Yes, the seat was pretty hard, just was not comfortable to sleep in at all.
Quoting Triple7man (Reply 9): I flew NH BKK-NRT on an overnight flight and it was same thing with cabin lights fully on. They weren't dimmed until after drink service some 30 minutes later. About 2 hours before takeoff when it was still dark outside they were abruptly turned on full blast.
- Sounds very similar to my flight
Quoting Triple7man (Reply 9): I was on a JL CTS-HND flight and I took a picture just before pushback. The f/a told me I couldn't take pictures on the ground, after takeoff it was OK.
Shamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6100 posts, RR: 15 Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12866 times:
Hi Mark,
Sounds like NH have a decent product for these flights, the breakfast looks very nice but the sandwiches you had earlier in the flight are a bit on the small side!
Phlstudent From United States of America, joined May 2006, 498 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12806 times:
I like the forward camera view, that is always a treat to have even on shorter flights.
The breakfast brisket looks delicious. Its also interesting that the menu shows the options for 3 months.
How was the entertainment, was it AVOD or just a loop?
It is indeed. But for some reasons I enjoy coming back there when I am around.
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): There is a bar tender but he works 15:30 to 21:00, so not much use to later passengers, thankfully I managed a beer from him before he left for the night.
Strange. Are the guests allowed to tap the beer on their own when the bartender is off duty?
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter): legroom is fine providing you don't plan to leave your seat, forget trying to get out of your window seat if the person next to you is in full recline!
I can imagine that. Is this an old interior? Or the regional business class of NH?
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8263 posts, RR: 56 Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12465 times:
Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 11): Sounds like NH have a decent product for these flights, the breakfast looks very nice but the sandwiches you had earlier in the flight are a bit on the small side!
- Hi Kevin, NH were ok on this segment, though the J seating could have more legroom to be honest. Breakfast was indeed good but the sandwiche snacks were too small.
Sankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1297 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12043 times:
Did NH offer and beverages prior to take-off? On some recent JAL business class flights, I was offered nothing until after take off. Wonder if that is the norm for Japanese carriers?
Nicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11924 times:
Quoting Sankaps (Reply 18): Did NH offer and beverages prior to take-off? On some recent JAL business class flights, I was offered nothing until after take off. Wonder if that is the norm for Japanese carriers?
NH does offer drinks and wet towels prior to take off in J.
25 LXfan: Thanks again for this TR !! The SIN lounge look very nice !
26 BA319-131: You think? - It was pretty poor to be honest. Regards Mark
27 NZ107: Hi Mark, This series is quite interesting! I think I'll have to get myself to the rest of Asia sometime.. What a shame. It would have been nice to see
28 Sankaps: I completely agree. I had this once on an Aeromexico 767, and it felt like I was sitting in the middle of a pedestrian corridor! I actually moved to
29 BA319-131: Hi Nicholas, Thanks for the comments, - So much to see, I need more time there! - I know, wanted 2 A380's back to back. - Good question. - Yes, that's
30 NZ107: Don't we all! I wonder why airlines don't go for the 1-2-2. The only reason I can think of would be because of the misalignment of the aisles.
31 PlaneHunter: Hi Mark, another great report with many nice pictures. ANA's Business Class product doesn't look very spectacular. Sounds good! Where did you hang aro
32 B747forever: Great trip report Mark. Like the pics. That is impressing. How many aircrafts in total do you have? Thank you for sharing B747forever
33 BA319-131: - Thanks, made 455 new in total, not bad really. - Hi PH, no it's not that great, but it gets better on a later daytime flight. - I spend all day in
34 B747forever: That is great! 455 new regs is a lot!
35 BA319-131: Yes, I was quite pleased, especially as I've been to all these places, bar KIX & ITM before.
36 Contact Air: Hi Mark, Interesting to read part two of your Asia journey as well. Yes, the airport looks great with all the plants in the terminal. Indeed, very unu
37 BA319-131: - Hi Christoph, glad you enjoyed part 2, trip so far was pretty good Regards Mark
38 DALCE: HI Mark, Part 2 was also very interesting, perhaps not as the first one, but that is mainly because the 763ER is so common compared to the 380! No tim
39 BA319-131: - Thanks Joost, glad you found it interesting, for me an interesting one as ANA is not that reported here, though the 767 is! Regards Mark
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