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Delights Of Doha, 773 & 77W: DOH-DXB-LHR On EK  
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Delights of Doha, Boeing 777-300 & Boeing 777-300ER:
Doha - Dubai - London on Emirates




Intro
The Economy Class product on Emirates' Boeing 777-300 (DOH-DXB) and the newer variants of the carrier's Boeing 777-300ER fleet (DXB-LHR) are in the spotlight today. In the end of the report I'll go into detail about the differences of traveling on the Airbus A380 and the Boeing 777. In addition, numerous pictures will give an impression of the city of Doha, Qatar's aspiring capital. The connecting flights on British Airways, bmi and Aer Lingus will be featured in the series' third and last part.
All those who have missed part 1 (including Emirates' A380) or want to read more about the background simply need to click here:

A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK



Delights of Doha
More than eight hours after my arrival a Qatari friend picked me up at the hotel and showed me some of the most interesting parts of Doha. Our first destination was the giant Villagio Mall located in the Aspire Zone at the west end of Doha. The Italian themed mall...



...is equipped with fake sky interiors...



...a canal and bridges...



...as well as gondolas.




The Aspire Tower is a 318 meter (1,050 ft) structure located in the Sports City complex, in walking distance from the Villagio Mall. The tower, currently the tallest building in Qatar, served as the focal point for the 15th Asian Games in December 2006. Unfortunately, the visitors' deck was closed on that day.



A modern-style mosque located next to the Aspire Tower:



The Khalifa International Stadium in the Sports City complex is a multi-use stadium with a capacity of 50,000 people:




Now it was time to have a look at the city's skyline in the West Bay business district. Numerous new skyscrapers along the Corniche Street:







The Doha Convention Center & Tower is expected to reach a height of 551 meters (1808 ft) by its completion:







Still under construction: yet another example of stunning architecture:




This is the road to the The Pearl, an artificial island spanning nearly four million square meters. After completion it will be the first land in Qatar to be available for freehold ownership by foreign nationals. The project will create over 32 kilometers of new coastline, for use as a residential estate for about 30,000 people.







Certain parts of the island are completed, including some shops and restaurants, and are accessible for promotional purpose.



What would be an artificial island without a marina?




After sunset we went to the Souq Waqif, an old souq in the center of Doha which has recently been renovated and is an attractive place for a stroll or a souvenir hunt, with pavement cafés and countless shops. The Kassem Darwish Fakhroo Centre with its spiral minaret:



More than two hours later we had a delicious dinner in a beautiful Iranian restaurant - impressive wall and ceiling design:




Almourouj Inn Hotel
The location of the Almourouj Inn close to the old part of the city and the waterfront is nice, but that's it. First of all, the communication with the hotel staff prior to the trip hadn't been easy. After mailing twice and asking about the earliest possible check-in time, I had finally received a very short reply. They told me the room would be ready at arrival in the early morning, but I didn't read a word about the free shuttle being unavailable at night. See part 1 for more details about getting to the hotel:
A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK
Once at the hotel after arrival, a young receptionist ensured that the hotel would charge only 50% for the first night (3 am to 12 pm) - but only a few hours later an older employee insisted that I would have to pay for two full nights. Apart from that, the room was only equipped with basic amenities and the breakfast buffet wasn't impressive either.
Views from the room:



Lovely, isn't it?  



The hotel charged 82 Euro per night which is quite low for Doha, but it's definitely worth it to invest a bit more for a better hotel.



Wednesday, 18 March 2009
Doha (DOH) - Dubai (DXB)
Emirates, EK842
09:45-11:45 (09:44-11:41)
Flying time: 00:45 (hrs)

Boeing 777-31H
A6-EMW (s/n 434), delivered in 03/2003
Economy Class, Seat 48A



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Quick Check-in, Crowded Facilities
At least the transfer back to the airport worked on the next morning. The hotel shuttle dropped me off after a 15-minute ride and I passed the luggage screening checkpoint to get access to the check-in area. The Emirates counters were mostly deserted and I got my boarding passes only a few minutes later. I had pre-reserved my seats online, so I didn't have to forward any requests. Passing security was a matter of a few minutes and I finally took a seat in the large departure/transit area on the second floor where you have good views of the runway. It wasn't very busy at that time and I didn't get many registrations, unfortunately.
Qatar Airways Boeing 777-300ER:



While there are many seats in the departure/transit area, the number of toilets is very limited. One facility was closed due to cleaning, so many people were heading to the next one. The size of the toilet facilities is definitely not sufficient for a transfer hub - if they are already crowded during a relatively quiet time of the day - how is it like during the peak times?

Aircraft Change
Boarding started early and a bus brought us to the aircraft. I had already spotted a relatively large Emirates tail in the distance from the terminal - and soon it was clear that the scheduled A330-200 had been replaced by a Boeing 777-300.   
The plane was A6-EMW, delivered in March 2003. Always nice to board a wide-body via stairs:



The competitor from Abu Dhabi had decided to send a “slightly” smaller plane - A6-EIK, a new A320-200 delivered only two months before.




Mostly Empty Cabin
Who knows why Emirates switched to the 773 - even the A330 would have been too big for the low passenger load. The load factor probably reached about 30 percent, maybe even less. Good to see that the cabin was already equipped with newer seats and the (basic) ice entertainment system:



I was welcomed by a very friendly flight attendant and I immediately took the chance to ask about the today's landing procedure at DXB. He said we would approach from the desert and invited me to choose whatever seat I wanted. Originally I had picked 36K on the A330 seat map, but now I switched to 48A in the very last row. The seats were comfortable, but a bit hard - just like the latest variants on the A380.



The seat on the 773 is very similar to the latest variants used on the A380 and the newer 777s. Apart from the screen and the IFE handset, one major difference is the size of the IFE box:



Seat pitch was good as usual on Emirates:




On-time Departure
After wet towels had been distributed and recollected we left the gate almost exactly on time and taxied to runway 34, passing some interesting aircraft, including one of two ex-Qatar Airways A330-200s destined for Turkish Airlines:



What's better than getting a light wide-body on an ultra-short-haul flight? Powerful take-off, just as expected:



The distinctive Museum of Islamic Arts is clearly visible here (center) - too bad it was closed on the other day.



The crescent-shaped Doha Bay...



...and the West Bay business district:



Construction work all over the place:




Breakfast
According to the captain, the flying time to Dubai would be only 39 minutes and we wouldn't climb higher than 21,000 feet. Many carriers wouldn't serve anything on such a short hop in these days, but Emirates does. Some 12 minutes after takeoff a friendly flight attendant handed over a breakfast tray with raisin pastry, chocolate muffin, fresh fruit and water - everything was very tasty.   



Hot drinks weren't available - the time wouldn't have been enough. When I finished my breakfast, the plane had already started its descent.

In-flight Entertainment
I had been watching the airshow from the very beginning - there wouldn't have been enough time for anything else. I was already familiar with the basic version of ice, so there was no need to check all the features. While ice (available on 772, 772ER, 773 and older 77Ws) offers a choice of more than 600 channels, the new ice Digital Widescreen (available on A380, 77L and newer 77Ws) offers more than 1000 different channels of entertainment and is more comfortable to operate. No matter if it's the latest version or not - it's more than enough to remain entertained on long-haul flights.

Approach
We soon overflew the UAE's coastline and I realized that I wouldn't be able to see the Burj Dubai from my seat - because I recognized Sharjah on the left. Here's Sharjah Airport:



That looks like an exclusive place:



Large plateau:



New residential area:





Large facilities, partly under construction:



We touched down on runway 30L exactly 45 minutes after takeoff, opposite to the Dubai Air Wing hangars:



Terminal 3 was mostly deserted on this side at noontide:





Dubai Airport - Transfer at Terminal 3
Disembarking was just a matter of a few minutes and the queue at the security checkpoint didn't stop me for a long time either. What would Dubai Airport be without the famous luxury car lottery?



Transferring at the shiny new Terminal 3 was a pleasure this time - no crowds, no rush.



It was also nice to find masses of free seats everywhere. I sat down close to a glass front at the southern end of the Terminal and watched the movements on the runways. It wasn't very busy during that time of the day, but I logged about 20 new registrations until boarding. However, the pattern on the windows isn't very helpful:





Wednesday, 18 March 2009
Dubai (DXB) - London (LHR)
Emirates, EK003
14:30-18:15 (14:50-18:28)
Flying time: 07:09 (hrs)

Boeing 777-31HER
A6-ECE (s/n 681), delivered in 12/2007
Economy Class, Seat 48K



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Boarding
The gate was filled well this time and it was clear EK003 would operate with a reasonable load factor, probably about 70 percent. A6-ECE (delivered in December 2007) was parked at the gate, one of the newer Boeing 777-300ERs with the latest interior.



I had chosen the second last row which belongs to boarding zone F, following immediately after the premium classes. When I stepped my foot onto the aircraft, a friendly flight attendant welcomed me and addressed me by name again - just like on EK002.

Cabin Comfort
The seats on the newer 777s are mostly identical to those on the A380 - comfortable, but a bit hard cushioned.



Advanced seatback:



There was about one inch less legroom compared to the A380, but it was still enough. The seat is also 0,5 inch narrower than on the A380, but I didn't notice the difference.



Two other passengers sitting behind each other on 47J and 48J (next to me) soon moved to the empty last row, so I could stretch out, just like on EK002. As usual, wet towels were distributed and recollected.

Slightly Late Departure
Many freight pallets were loaded into the 77W's huge belly...



...and the plane was finally pushed back some 20 minutes late.



Instead of taking the short way to runway 30R, we started taxiing in northern direction, passing both sides of the whole terminal. I can't complain - it helped me to log some more registrations.  



20 minutes later we turned onto runway 30R and the two giant GE90 engines kicked the 77W into the sky. Interesting planes on the ground: Iran Aseman Fokker 100 and an ex-AirTran 737-700 without titles - most likely one of two frames recently delivered to Iraqi Airways.



Sharjah's skyline in the background...





...and the usual land reclamation work:






In-flight Entertainment
As mentioned earlier, the A380 and the newer 777s are equipped with the ice Digital Widescreen system which offers a choice of more than 1000 channels of entertainment. All those interested can read more about its features in part 1:
A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK

These are the highlights:

  • - More than 200 movies, available in many different languages
  • - Hundreds of TV features (comedy, sports, drama, kids' programs, etc.)
  • - Nearly 10,000 music tracks on hundreds of albums (playlist builder)
  • - Hundreds of radio channels (podcasts, operas, etc.)
  • - More than 100 video games (including new games and all the classic ones)
  • - Advanced airshow (moving map with 3D aircraft model, external camera views)
  • - Regularly updated news
  • - Duty Free shopping
  • - Information about Emirates, Skywards, Dubai etc.
  • - SMS & Email
  • - Option to plug in a digital camera for viewing images


ice Digital Widescreen was easy to operate again - however, unlike on the A380, I noticed several bugs. The games weren't available during the whole flight and the flight duration display remained at "0:00" all the time. Btw - a feature exclusively available on the A380 is the tail camera view.


Snack
It took about 50 minutes until the first round of service (drinks and savoury biscuits) was started. I ordered ginger ale and got a regular size can this time - in contrast to the tiny one on EK002.




SMS to Germany
While cruising over Iran's beautiful mountainous landscape...





...I decided to try the option to send an SMS to Germany. The "Communications Central" main page:



You need to swipe a credit card first to identify yourself - then you can go ahead and start writing messages, either by using the handset's keyboard or a virtual touch screen keyboard:



Using the virtual keyboard was quite convenient, I really liked that feature. After the message is finished you can save or send it. Additionally, you can also receive messages on the screen. Sending and receiving a message costs USD1, and in order to prevent unintentional actions you need to confirm each transaction separately. Later I found out that it had worked. Great stuff!   
Later in the flight I wanted to ask whether all the personal data would be deleted after the flight - but the flight attendants didn't react after I had pressed the call button. Some ten minutes later I went to the galley and asked. Not the way it should be!

Lunch
The flight attendants started to serve "lunch" more 1,5 hours after take-off - again quite late in the afternoon. Menu cards had already been distributed shortly after take-off:



Appetizer
Salmon and vegetable terrine served with a crunchy bean sprout and mushroom salad, sautéed prawn and fresh lemon wedge
Main Course
- Parsley and mustard roast chicken: tender chicken breast marinated with parsley and mustard and slow roasted, topped with a light smoked cheese sauce, mixed spaetzle and vegetable casserole
- Lamb korma served with vegetable flavoured rice, garnished with roasted cashew nuts and fried onions
- Porcini mushroom tortellini tossed in a creamy sauce and garnished with a tangy tomato and basil coulis
Dessert
Elderberry brownie: rich chocolate brownie base covered with a creamy elderberry flavoured mousse


After not getting the favoured lamb on EK002 I tried again this time - and believe it or not, it wasn't available for a second time in a row.    Then I ordered the chicken - and I was positively surprised: the meat, the sauce and the spaetzle in particular tasted excellent.



The salmon and vegetable terrine was not to my taste, but the dessert was quite good. Btw - I found a small sticker on the side of my tray, saying "vegetarian Asian meal" - probably fallen down from another tray. Then I noticed that the dressing was missing on my tray. I called a flight attendant who promised to get me one. It took a while, but she finally came back with a small glass - probably taken from Business Class?
Now all I still needed was something to drink - but the two flight attendants with the drinks cart were still numerous rows away. The desired white wine finally arrived more than 15 minutes after the food, definitely too late. I had also observed that on my Emirates flights to and from Australia in 2006.

Cabin Tour
You can often look up into a starry sky when flying on certain Emirates types - the 77W is one of them.



The lavatory interior doesn’t look as modern as on the A380, but the nice wood paneling is the same.






777 Contrail
I kept watching the advanced airshow most of the time...



...and when we were cruising near Berlin...



...one could clearly see the 777’s contrail in the evening sun:




Afternoon Tea
About 75 minutes prior to arrival it was time for a light snack. Description in the menu card: ”Your selection of afternoon tea includes assorted reception sandwiches, mixed dried fruit cake and scone with clotted cream and strawberry jam."



Well, what to say? No matter if salmon and cheese sandwiches, cake or scone - every item tasted excellent. And even the drinks arrived earlier this time.

Approach to 9L
The approach to LHR wasn't as enjoyable as usual because runways 9L and 9R were in use. Of course, I switched to the front camera view:





We touched down on runway 9L after a flying time of 7 hours and 9 minutes and arrived at the gate slightly late. About one hour later I arrived at the Jurys Inn again and started preparing for the next day's trip to DUB and MUC...story to be continued.



Conclusion
Flying Emirates was a true pleasure again - despite some minor negative issues (preferred choice of meal not available, late drink service, unanswered call). The seats could be a bit more comfortable, but the legroom is generous on both the 773 and the 77W. ice Digital Widescreen is probably the best entertainment system available today - but even the basic version is better than most other carriers’ systems. Catering can be rated as superb both in terms of quality and quantity, even on short hops. And the presentation of the food is excellent, too. Again, the staff on the ground and in the air were friendly and motivated. With the opening of Terminal 3 even transferring at DXB has become convenient again. I can only recommend to fly Emirates.

Let me also add some words about the difference between the Airbus A380 and the Boeing 777. As I already explained in part 1, the noise level on the A380 is indeed very low, significantly lower than on the 777. Numerous people prefer a quiet cabin, but personally I don't mind about a higher noise level. Dozens of people sitting in close vicinity produce a variety of sounds, by talking, laughing or snoring (just to name a few) - and the lower the noise level of the plane is, the more you get to hear.
If you compare seat width and seat pitch on certain websites you'll notice that the A380s currently in service aren't really outstanding. Emirates' 77Ws are equipped with slightly narrower seats - but I didn't feel much more cramped. The 3-4-3 seating on the 777 is not as bad in reality as many people think - a preconceived opinion and a biased perception may play a role here.
The technical gimmicks such as advanced IFE and mood lighting are available on both the A380 and the 777 (or other aircraft). In Emirates' case you get the same IFE and the same type of seats on both the A380 and the newer 777s. To sum it up: Many of those who expect a revolutionarily different Economy Class product on the A380 will be disappointed.


Next report: MUC-LHR, LHR-DUB and DUB-MUC on British Airways, bmi and Aer Lingus.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter

[Edited 2009-04-23 11:15:45]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2919 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Thanks for the pictures of Villagio mall, really like that place.

Good TR and nice pictures taken. Substitutions on intra GCC flights are very common very unpredictable I would say.

I'm glad the seat width does not bother you much. For me it is more specifically the elbow room because of that nothing else.

Well done once again.  cheerful 



A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep
User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PH,

Fantastic report with lots of interesting details and great pictures - thanks a lot for taking the time to write down your story and to present the pics. I also liked your comparison between the A380 and the B777. Although I have never been on an A380, I had also expected that the A380 might be a bit "over-hyped", especially in Economy Class. After all, nearly no airline will invest too much money in expensive specials in a class that is sold mostly over the price.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
the flying time to Dubai would be only 39 minutes and we wouldn't climb higher than 21,000 feet. Many carriers wouldn't serve anything on such a short hop in these days, but Emirates does. Some 12 minutes after takeoff a friendly flight attendant handed over a breakfast tray with raisin pastry, chocolate muffin, fresh fruit and water - everything was very tasty.

Once again a really impressive service for such a short flight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Sending and receiving a message costs USD1

The price is all right from my point of view - I would have expected it to be more expensive.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After not getting the favoured lamb on EK002 I tried again this time - and believe it or not, it wasn't available for a second time in a row.

That's the price when you are sitting in the second last row - your favourite meal is often not available any more. I know the problem as I also prefer sitting in the back. But luckily I like nearly all dishes, so I don't care too much.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Interesting to see the clotted cream there! My friend's Dad is a dairy farmer for Rodda's, so it'd be novel if her Dad's (cow!) milk were in that exact pot of clotted cream.

Great report anyway- helps one to appreciate the wider world of airlines & their bettering services over local Western carriers.. its like another world!


User currently offlineWouwout From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Ojas (Reply 1):
If you compare seat width and seat pitch on certain websites you'll notice that the A380s currently in service aren't really outstanding. Emirates' 77Ws are equipped with slightly narrower seats - but I didn't feel much more cramped. The 3-4-3 seating on the 777 is not as bad in reality as many people think - a preconceived opinion and a biased perception may play a role here.

Well I can tell that after a 8 hour flight, 98% full, my shoulders were hurting because of the narrow seats in EK's 77W - trying to avoid getting too cosy with my neighbour. I might consider you biased because you've had several seats to yourself. I will try to avoid EK's 77Ws wherever possible.

PS: pushing the flight attendant button on an EK 77W has almost never led to a response.

PPS: excellent report, I love the attention to detail

[Edited 2009-04-23 12:40:08]

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 5, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Ojas (Reply 1):
Good TR and nice pictures taken. Substitutions on intra GCC flights are very common very unpredictable I would say.

Thanks, Ojas! I guess many of these routes should be avoided if you really want to get a certain type.

Quoting Ojas (Reply 1):
Thanks for the pictures of Villagio mall, really like that place.

Yes, great place - one could spend a lot of time there.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 2):
Fantastic report with lots of interesting details and great pictures - thanks a lot for taking the time to write down your story and to present the pics.

Thanks a lot, Christoph! Yes, you have to invest lots of time for these kinds of reports, but it's still fun.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 2):
The price is all right from my point of view - I would have expected it to be more expensive.

Yes, that's what I thought, too, when I heard about the price.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 2):
But luckily I like nearly all dishes, so I don't care too much.

I'm not picky either - and in Emirates' case there are good chances to get a proper alternative.

Quoting NQYGuy (Reply 3):
Great report anyway- helps one to appreciate the wider world of airlines & their bettering services over local Western carriers.. its like another world!

Thanks, Christian! You are right - flying Emirates or other carriers from the Gulf is very different in many respects. Let's hope they keep their level of service.

Quoting NQYGuy (Reply 3):
Interesting to see the clotted cream there! My friend's Dad is a dairy farmer for Rodda's, so it'd be novel if her Dad's (cow!) milk were in that exact pot of clotted cream.

Yes, who knows? Interesting issue.

Quoting Wouwout (Reply 4):
PPS: excellent report, I love the attention to detail

Thanks, Wouwout!

Quoting Wouwout (Reply 4):
PS: pushing the flight attendant button on an EK 77W has almost never led to a response.

That doesn't sound encouraging...

Quoting Wouwout (Reply 4):
Well I can tell that after a 8 hour flight, 98% full, my shoulders were hurting because of the narrow seats in EK's 77W - trying to avoid getting too cosy with my neighbour. I might consider you biased because you've had several seats to yourself.

Of course I can't rule out that I was biased. Some years ago I flew SIN-DXB on a packed 773, load factor probably close to 100 percent. I felt a bit cramped - but it wasn't so much worse than on packed flights on A330s or 747s. There are numerous factors which can influence the individual perception in certain situations.


PH



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User currently offlineCaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 350 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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This is the Emirates of TRs! There has been a real dry spell of TRs lately, so I was thrilled when I read yours. Job well done.

User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Qatar, joined Feb 2000, 780 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great TR.
Thank you for posting.
It was nice to see pictures from Doha.
Sorry about your hotel, it is one of the worst ones in Doha.



Let´s fly away
User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Fantastic report PH.

I really enjoyed the pictures you took in Doha.

Thanks
CO7e7


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PH!

Excellent report as always! VERY nice pictures! The Villagio mall seems to be amazing!

DOH should be a much better airport when the new terminal opens late this year or early 2010.

I feel cramped on EK's 777 but fortunatly, I have only flown on shorter sector on their flights. The real test is to fly DXB-LAX for 17h on a full flight......

The food looks great and I also have large portions on my EK flights. Service is not great on EK and the attitude's of flight attendents isn't great. At least the inflight entertainement gives you a lot ot options.

Too bad you didn't get the lamb; that would have been my first choice as well.

The777Man



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...as well as gondolas.

The great thing is the " Gondoliers" from the Philippines.  Smile

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Still under construction: yet another example of stunning architecture:

The famous Zick-Zack towers. Big grin

Great report! Even though I was in Qatar early this year I can again see the speed on finishing those buildings. Some of them in your pics were under heavy construction back then.

Great report!  Smile


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4738 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Thank you for the insight. I will, for the first time, step on board at EK 773 in a month's time so I am looking forward to the much-maligned 3-4-3 set up on the 777.


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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8430 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Hi PH,

Great report & picures, really enjoyed, you showed me more of Doha than I have ever seen.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Instead of taking the short way to runway 30R, we started taxiing in northern direction, passing both sides of the whole terminal. I can't complain - it helped me to log some more registrations

- Always a nice result.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now all I still needed was something to drink - but the two flight attendants with the drinks cart were still numerous rows away. The desired white wine finally arrived more than 15 minutes after the food, definitely too late. I had also observed that on my Emirates flights to and from Australia in 2006.

- Always a gripe with me too, I like to have the drink with my meal, often I find myself waiting for the drink to arrive before starting my meal.

Look forward to the next segment.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5012 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi, PH,

I know from your upcoming story due to your reply to my latest EK experience.

Well done, real informative and superb, really superb pics from Quatar.
I like your style, definitely.
Good to read about your hotel. Not a place to select if I will go anytime to Quatar.

Also my impression about EK, a recommendable airline to fly on.

So, hopefully there will be not that long wait for your third part, sounds also like
an interesting selection of airlines.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: Is there something new for the new countries?.
User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PlaneHunter
Brilliant trip report, loved every minute spent reading. Looking forward to the final report of your trip.



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User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1628 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Thanks so much for taking the time to write up the second part of your trip, great report as always, supplements the first you did well! Glad you enjoyed your flights as well  Smile

Quoting Wouwout (Reply 4):
PS: pushing the flight attendant button on an EK 77W has almost never led to a response

hmm...I always respond when I see or hear a call go off, occasionally we do miss them, but if we don't answer calls we get in trouble, so most likely it's a one off.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):
Service is not great on EK and the attitude's of flight attendents isn't great

Sorry you feel that way, things are changing though, and consistency is slowly returning. We've changed services a bit with the introduction of the A380, so hopefully you'll have the ability to give us at EK a chance again some time soon. Personally I feel my attitude is pretty good  Wink I always put on a smile even if I'm dead tired, little things like that can go a long way, especially when I see all those tired faces boarding at DXB, invariably transferring from somewhere to somewhere else. Most times the smiles and greetings aren't returned, but when the favor is returned it makes for a really pleasant flight for both the passengers and the crew. Make someone's day, the EK way  Smile

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):

Too bad you didn't get the lamb; that would have been my first choice as well.

The lamb is really popular, quite rightly so, it's quite good, especially for an eco meal!

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 11):
Thank you for the insight. I will, for the first time, step on board at EK 773 in a month's time so I am looking forward to the much-maligned 3-4-3 set up on the 777.

Ryan, I have been reading your trip reports for years now and have always loved them, particularly because we seem to have similar things we look out for when we fly so I'm really excited for you to try us out! Definitely write up a report about it please, would LOVE to hear what you think!! What flight are you taking and on what date? I'll look and see if any friends of mine are operating the flight (hell, I might be working it!) and if so we'll make sure to keep a look out for you on the plane!



Keep Discovering
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 16, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Caleb1 (Reply 6):
This is the Emirates of TRs! There has been a real dry spell of TRs lately, so I was thrilled when I read yours. Job well done.

Thanks a lot, Caleb1, nice to hear!

Quoting Flyboy_se (Reply 7):
Great TR.
Thank you for posting.
It was nice to see pictures from Doha.



Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 8):
Fantastic report PH.

I really enjoyed the pictures you took in Doha.

Thanks, good to see both of you liked the Doha pics!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):
Excellent report as always! VERY nice pictures! The Villagio mall seems to be amazing!

Hi Lars, thank you very much for your feedback! I have been to many malls, but the Villagio belongs to the most impressive ones.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):
DOH should be a much better airport when the new terminal opens late this year or early 2010.

Yes, I'm quite sure it will be an amazing airport. Maybe I'll try both QR and the new airport next year.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):
The real test is to fly DXB-LAX for 17h on a full flight......

Are you planning to take that flight?

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):
Service is not great on EK and the attitude's of flight attendents isn't great.

My impression is that service has become better and more personal since 2006

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 10):
Great report! Even though I was in Qatar early this year I can again see the speed on finishing those buildings. Some of them in your pics were under heavy construction back then.

Thanks! Yes, the city is growing fast - and it will continue. I was told Qatar hasn't been affected much by the current crisis.

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 11):
I will, for the first time, step on board at EK 773 in a month's time so I am looking forward to the much-maligned 3-4-3 set up on the 777.

Hi Ryan, I'm looking forward to see your rating.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 12):
Great report & picures, really enjoyed, you showed me more of Doha than I have ever seen.

Hi Mark, thanks a lot for your feedback! Good to hear you liked the pics.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 12):
- Always a gripe with me too, I like to have the drink with my meal, often I find myself waiting for the drink to arrive before starting my meal.

Yes, exactly what I usually do, too.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 13):
Well done, real informative and superb, really superb pics from Quatar.
I like your style, definitely.

Servus Markus, thanks a lot! I'm glad you liked the report.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 13):
Good to read about your hotel. Not a place to select if I will go anytime to Quatar.

Yes, it should be avoided. Too bad I didn't find many ratings prior to the trip. You have to invest at least 100 Euro per night for a good hotel, but it's worth it.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 13):
So, hopefully there will be not that long wait for your third part, sounds also like an interesting selection of airlines.

I hope to get it ready within the next ten days.

Quoting EICVD (Reply 14):
Brilliant trip report, loved every minute spent reading. Looking forward to the final report of your trip.

Many thanks, Mark!

Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 15):
Thanks so much for taking the time to write up the second part of your trip, great report as always, supplements the first you did well!

Thank you, nice to hear you liked reading about your airline.

Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 15):
Glad you enjoyed your flights as well

Yes, indeed - your colleagues did a good job. Most of the time.  Wink

Btw - isn't it very stressful to work on a full 773 between DXB and DOH? I find it amazing to get a meal on a 40 minutes hop, but I can imagine it must be a hard task for the crew to serve all passengers on a packed wide-body.

Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 15):
The lamb is really popular, quite rightly so, it's quite good, especially for an eco meal!

I guess I need to choose the front Economy section next time just to get the lamb...  Wink


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Fantastic report PH, as always!

The pics were very nice, and it looked pretty cool to me that the contrail was visible from the back rows,
The food on EK looked great as well, but they should might consider loading more of that lamb dish, haha... Big grin

Thanks for posting!

//Jonas



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great read, this and part 1 as usual PH!

I had 4 pretty much flawless flights on EK in Feb-Mar in Y, really couldn't fault them at all. Always responded to calls as well, apart from when service was performed (expected, but the wife insisted...).

Just booked LGW-DXB-CGK-DXB-LHR for 386 GBP all in, amazing fare.

PH - any advice where the IFE boxes are - I booked D seats on the 77W but changed to bulkheads now as I see most of them have boxes under D and G seats.

81A on the A380 - any comments?


Regards,

Lari



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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17004 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great TR

Really like the pics

It is amazing that EK uses aircrafts like the 773 and A330 on 45minutes flights!

EK seems like a great carrier.


Thank you for sharing

B747forever



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 20, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PH,

Another great TR. Thanks for keeping me entertained!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
(preferred choice of meal not available, late drink service, unanswered call)

A bit of a let down.. But it should encourage you to try the front of the cabin so you can get the lamb!

Doha looks amazing. That mall reminds me of Las Vegas but this time with an Arab touch. Rather nice! Sure looks empty.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The Doha Convention Center & Tower is expected to reach a height of 551 meters (1808 ft) by its completion:

Any date specified?  Silly

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
While there are many seats in the departure/transit area, the number of toilets is very limited. One facility was closed due to cleaning, so many people were heading to the next one. The size of the toilet facilities is definitely not sufficient for a transfer hub - if they are already crowded during a relatively quiet time of the day - how is it like during the peak times?

Guess I'll go with DXB if I get a chance to fly to Europe or something

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
a breakfast tray with raisin pastry, chocolate muffin, fresh fruit and water - everything was very tasty.

That's amazing that they have time for a meal on such a short flight. Good thing that it tasted good too! I guess it's comparable to NZ when they had food on a lot of domestic flights.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
That looks like an exclusive place:

Woah.. Looks just as good as on Google Maps!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I ordered ginger ale and got a regular size can this time - in contrast to the tiny one on EK002.

Interesting.. I thought that those small cans were an Emirates specialty.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I decided to try the option to send an SMS

I'm going to try it next time! Such a novelty.


Good to see this consistency carrying on. The welcome by name is a really nice touch. I guess I'll pass my boarding pass to the FA on my next flight!


Thanks again for a great read!

Regards,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):
Are you planning to take that flight?

Yes, will try again in a few months. It should be easier soon when the flight goes every day.

Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 15):
Sorry you feel that way, things are changing though, and consistency is slowly returning

Sounds like you try to make a difference! It's not just about smiling (not smiling is okay) but just the general attitude that's been lacking.

Very different story on QR.....Their personal service is very good. Food and entertainement is good as well although not as good as EK.

The777Man



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26506 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Nice report and photos . Short but sweet.

OA260



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1732 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Absolutely stunning TR! It makes me home-sick! Very nice that you visited Villagio, Souq Wakif, and other places. You are definetly welcome to Doha anytime! Great you enjoyed the flight. I found the seats on the 77W very narrow--that I try to avoid EK's 777s at all costs.

Once again, great TR and I love all your posts in general not just your TR!



لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله
User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (4 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great TR you have done a wonderful job, with lots of added extra detail. Pleased to know that the transit at DXB was an easy experience.

25 SR183 : Congrats for this great report! I liked the details, especially from the airports and inside the cabin..
26 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Tack själv, Jonas! Always nice to see the contrail, especially in the evening or morning light. Definitely, yes! Hi Lari, thanks for your comments.
27 SKY1 : Agree with that! While individual perception is 100% subjective we have a fact, a true and objective fact: 3-4-3 is narrower than any 2-5-2 or 3-3-3
28 PlaneHunter : Thanks! No, it's not as simply as it seems to be. I recommend to have a look at Seat Guru. In many cases the seat width difference is as little as 0,
29 SKY1 : Aisle must be really tiny, then. I'd like to fly a B-777 in a 3-4-3 configuration in order to check it by myself, but for sure when you put 1 more se
30 Pumaknight : excellent trip report...look forward to the next bit.
31 Post contains links PlaneHunter : Thanks, Michael! The final part is now online: "Mission A380": Disappointing Legs On BA/BD/EI PH
32 Abrelosojos : PH, As usual, another flawless trip report. Can you write my reports for me? You are quite the master! You are generous though - unanswered calls woul
33 PlaneHunter : Thanks a lot, A.! Hearing that from you makes me feel honored. As for the writing - the problem is that I can't even find enough time for creating my
34 Post contains images tbloemink : Next to the A380 the EK 777-200ER, 777-300ER and 777-20LR are equipped with ice digital widescreen Although some are still not equipped. EK A330's are
35 akhmad : Hi PH, Sorry for the late reply. Somehow I missed out this amazing report of yours. I like your insight review of Doha very much. It looks a nice coun
36 PlaneHunter : Yes, these planes really need to be refurbished. Hi Suryo, that's what I call a nice surprise. Great to hear you liked it. I definitely want to visit
37 LY777 : Nice TR! Did they use the mood lights during the 77W flight?
38 PlaneHunter : Thanks! No mood lighting, unfortunately. PH
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