Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1569 posts, RR: 11 Posted (3 years 12 months 2 hours ago) and read 20571 times:
Hey guys!
We’ve all been hearing stuff about the new Terminal 3 at Cairo International Airport. As an aviation enthusiast, I kept track of all the developments associated with it. A couple of weeks ago, when booking tickets for summer travel, I was delighted to know that T3 would be open by late June-perfect for me.
When booking my tickets on Expedia, I selected Egyptair for Cairo-Dubai-Cairo. Normally I would have preferred Qatar Airways, Gulf Air or Emirates, but the price on Egyptair wasn’t unreasonable so I went with that.
MS 912
CAI-DXB
Cairo International Airport, Arab Republic of Egypt-Dubai International Airport, Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Scheduled/Actual Time Departure: 1000/1011 (Takeoff 1020)
Scheduled/Actual Time Arrival: 1445/ 1432
Flying Time 3 hours 12 minutes
Aircraft: A330-200
Aircraft registration: SU-GCI
Woke up at 0500 in time for a shower and a nice cup of coffee. The plan was to move at 0630 and we did just that. By 0730 we were close to the airport and it was now a matter of following the signs. I bet everyone in Egypt is going to struggle with calling the new facility Terminal 3. Since there’s no word for Terminal in Arabic, the closest you get is ‘Passenger Building’. But since time immemorial, Terminal 1 is the ‘Old Airport’ while Terminal 2 is the ‘New Airport’. Over time, T1 got renovated to become a rather pleasant facility while T2 remained a dingy facility. Nothing ‘new’ about it. One of the many paradoxes to be found in Egypt. Perhaps T3 will end up being ‘the Very New Terminal’?
We were at Terminal 3 by 0740, and I was pleased to see that getting there wasn’t too difficult. Finally, the exterior resembled the newer Terminal 2 facilities at Paris-CDG than an outmoded terminal dating from the 1960s.
Exterior
Line up of Egyptair:
Egyptair A321:
Terminal 3 was easy to navigate for first time users, and it was easy to see that there was a lot of space. We passed through pre check-in security, and then made our way to check-in.
Terminal pre-security:
They had eliminated the ‘common check-in’, with each flight (or set of flights) getting its own space. New York had an entire island of counters, while Abu Dhabi/Dubai/Doha got their own island.
Check-in:
Self-check in:
Dubai counters:
Check-in was empty that morning, and our agent was a pleasant and affable one. We checked-in with no qualms whatsoever, and were assigned seats 29 H& K on the A330-200. The agent even put one of the smaller bags in a large tray so that it would not lose direction on the luggage belt.
New York check-in
More check-in area photos:
Departures info screen:
After check-in, we got to passport control and had to fill out the usual forms. It’s an annoying procedure, and one I would like to see eliminated.
Boarding Pass:
Immigration:
After immigration, we were finally airside. The first thing we checked out was the Duty Free. It had been expanded, enlarged and made easy to navigate. There was the usual plethora of cigarettes, fragrances, chocolates and jewellery. There were some stands bearing world-famous brands (e.g. Chopard etc.) but they were empty. Upon inquiry, we were told that ‘the Swiss were being difficult and taking their time in sending over the merchandise’.
Here are some nice Egyptair models. The small ones were for $13 and the large ones for $55 or roundabouts. Needless to say, I couldn’t help myself!
After Duty Free, we went to sit in the café area. There were several places, can’t remember them all (except I know for sure that there was a Hardees) but they weren’t the usual one croissant-one coffee eateries. If I was a traveller from, say, Guangzhou to Paris and I was stopping in Cairo, finally, I’d be tempted to eat something that isn’t McDonalds!
Here’s an example-Hippopotamus. Never heard of it before but it looked okay:
I had a nice croissant filled with cheese and ham, and some coffee. The staff taking my order was extremely inefficient, and I had to tell them several times that I didn’t want milk! It took 3 languages, and 3 coffees (yes, three!) to convince them that I wanted it black. Finally! While the food was great, and the price reasonable (LE 40 or $7 USD) service was sluggish and staff inexperienced.
While eating, I did some plane-spotting. The seating area is nice for this purpose, but the blue-tinted glass just ruined everything.
Here are some pics:
Egyptair in Star Alliance colours:
Egyptair A330-200 (SU-GBO):
Incoming Egyptair in new livery:
My A330-200, SU-GCI:
British Airways BA 154 behind an MS A340:
Horus meets Union Jack:
BA 747:
New and old Egyptair liveries:
Tails from the left and right concourses:
Star Alliance and new Egyptair liveries:
Incoming airplane:
Finally, it was time to go to the gate. Now, Terminal 3 (International) is split into two Fingers/Concourses at opposite ends of the same concourse. We were in the G gates (G4) and it was quite a large facility. The toilets weren’t sparkling but there are more of them scattered throughout the terminal, and that in itself was a good thing. Each Gate had its own seating area, and for once, there was an oversupply of seats (it was a half empty A330 but in the old Terminal each gate had enough space for a regional jet).
The concourse where the G gates are:
An Egyptair Plus (FFP) promo stand:
Signage (I see they’ve retained the ugly yellow ones as homage):
The concourse:
Some artwork (whatever):
At the gate, our carry-ons were screened. For the first time in the history of Egyptian aviation, they took this seriously. Our water bottles were confiscated, and our bags thoroughly searched. My mom’s perfume was also confiscated, but it was returned to her during the flight (nice touch!).
The gate area was large, spacious and clean, and at around 0940 we began boarding the A330-200. It took a long time, mainly because at the door an officer checked each passenger’s immigration stamp. Now, I tried to be helpful by having it open, but he accidently closed the passport and he had too look for it all over again.
Before boarding, I took those pics:
Bridge which leads to the Departures level:
Egyptair Express (I think domestic flights still use remote stands):
The A330-200 was quite empty, and we found ourselves in 29 H/K in no time at all. We settled in, and fastened our seat belts for departure
On the ground, a male steward came around with those sticky sweets they always have on offer, and soon the safety video began.
While waiting for takeoff, I managed to snap pics of an MEA incoming from Beirut:
Bigger:
Closer, but unfortunately I was a split second too late:
After a boring 10 minutes or so, we took off and I could relish the vibrating engines on the magnificent A330-200. It soared high into the sky, basking in the glorious Egyptian sun, courtesy of Horus, the Egyptian sun god.
After takeoff:
The flight was pretty uneventful. Cabin crew were as usual pretty boring. The flight was full of those blond bimbo types the airline likes to hire, and of course those senior ladies who are an ode of the pre-jet age, but still insist on blond streaks in their hair. I find that the best cabin crew members on Egyptair are the male, middle-aged stewards. They’re pleasant, interesting and like to communicate with passengers. But cabin crew is not the airline’s forte, and in general I don’t think that Egyptian culture stresses too much on hospitality-at least in commercial terms. Most Egyptians tend to be friendly, but that doesn’t always translate into SQ-level service.
The food. Oh my God, the food. I have stopped caring, or trying, to come to terms with the food on MS. I don’t think they’ve changed the combinations since the 1990s. It’s always fish, or beef, or chicken. There’s always undercooked/burnt rice involved, accented by a topping of soggy vegetables.
Now, I once opted for the ‘seafood’ and I ended up with this:
But that was ‘seafood’. I made sure that by ‘fish’ they meant a fish fillet. Now, airlines don’t do fish very well, but I thought I’d give it a try:
Dirty cover:
The food:
I have never, and I repeat, ever, had fish that fatty. I was not aware fish could be layered with so much fat. It was revolting because I wasn’t expecting it.
My seat mate the beef:
Suspect dessert:
Terrible, just terrible. Egyptair has a lot to do to improve its catering. It should start by
a) offering menus to passengers that describe each entrée in detail, instead of the vague fish/chicken/meat offerings.
b) Being more creative. Yes. The world does not revolve around the usual one meat-two veggie routine (or however it goes). There are so many ingredients, and so many combinations to choose from, to reflect the diversity of Egyptair’s network.
After the meal, I returned to my book and finally, it was time for our descent into Dubai. The A330-200 came into Dubai quite high up, and had to circle to land at DXB:
I couldn’t take many photos-it was too hazy to spot anything:
Even at 2 pm, Emirates has a large departure bank at its hub. It was nevertheless exciting.
Goodbye Egyptair!
So what did I think of T3?
Well, it was a well-designed building. The pink exterior repulsed me at first, but as a passenger I’m not going to care very much what’s on the outside. The interior had high ceilings, and looked as polished as Suvanabhmi, or Changi. There was plenty of seating, and despite checking-in during the busiest time of the day, I didn’t feel the pressure because it didn’t feel crowded. Check-in counters were grouped instead of having common counters. While this posed no problems today, it could be an inefficient system at certain times, if say the counters devoted to the Benghazi flight are relatively empty while the queue for the Rome flight is full the brim.
The Duty Free area was pleasant, and hopefully more buyers will go there once the issues with the Swiss suppliers are sorted out.
The seating area wasn’t packed, but there’s plenty of seating to be found. The blue-tinted windows were pointless. Obviously I’d love it if a separate viewing lounge was opened, but I don’t think that’s going to happen in the future.
There was plenty of signage, and I didn’t feel lost at all. There was a separate channel for Transit pax. Finally, at long last, transiting through Cairo will be an easy experience and passengers will no longer need to be herded through that weird pen they have at Terminal 1.
There were plenty of toilets around. They could be cleaner, but you no longer have to trek a few hundred metres to find one.
It remains to be seen what passport control, and baggage reclaim on arrival are like. I can only hope that they are as efficient on arrival as they were on departure.
To get an idea of the Terminal design, it’s almost U shaped, with the bottom line being the main building with check-in, duty free etc. The two lines jutting out are the Concourses. The left line has the H International gates, and the left line houses the G international gates. The domestic flights (all leaving from F gates) are probably remote gates, on another level.
There’s a design blueprint in the airline magazine, which I’ll take and scan on my return flight.
So far, well done Cairo!
Thank you for reading my TR! Hope you enjoyed it, and I hope I haven’t rambled on for too long. Any feedback would be appreciated!
Semsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (3 years 12 months ago) and read 20249 times:
The airport looks beautiful and so does the hippopotomus restaurant. To me the desert looks nice at least in the pictures. Blondes? LOL. When I lived in Egypt I did not see many blondes. Maybe they dye their hair.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 25122 posts, RR: 60 Reply 3, posted (3 years 12 months ago) and read 20197 times:
Very nice report and pictures. I have to say I prefer the old MS livery and not the new one. The T3 looks nice. Shame you didnt like the food, it didnt look so bad in your pics but then I guess a pic can make something nice look bad and something bad look nice lol...
Nice to see an MS report. Hope to see more.
OA260
OLYMPIC AIR - ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΗ "Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΨΗΛΑ" "GREECE FLYING HIGH"
They are not really that pointless! They improve ultraviolet & infrared absorption through the use of a soda-lime-silica mixture of sorts and that's what gives it the blue tint.
Quoting Directorguy (Thread starter): The toilets weren’t sparkling but there are more of them scattered throughout the terminal, and that in itself was a good thing.
That's good to know! Last time I was in CAI the toilets in T2 left much to be desired (if one could ever desire toilet facilities?)
Ever think the subway or some type of light rail system will make it out to CAI to connect to the rest of the city?
Thanks for the GREAT TR! It was a good read! Was so nice to see pictures from Egypt. Having only been there twice it has still left a great impression on me.
TUNisia
Someday the sun will shine down on me in some faraway place - Mahalia Jackson
Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1569 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19978 times:
Quoting OffshoreAir (Reply 1): Nice trip report - the airports in that area of the country fascinate me. Good pictures too
Thanks
Quoting OffshoreAir (Reply 1): I can't help but think of the NFL team the Baltimore Ravens when I see the logo on the tail of the Egypt Air jets in the new paint.
You have a point there, LOL
Quoting Semsem (Reply 2): The airport looks beautiful and so does the hippopotomus restaurant. To me the desert looks nice at least in the pictures. Blondes? LOL. When I lived in Egypt I did not see many blondes. Maybe they dye their hair
Yes, FAs do dye their hair. And sometimes it doesn't match their skin tone, or age. In every case, the dye job is badly done and makes them all look like 'wannabes'. The FAs apply too much makeup, and it's definately not the clean professional look an EK FA would sport. The airline should invest in new uniforms and presentation/cosmetic courses for staff.
Egyptians need to realise that having blond streaks and orange hair in your 50s isn't very attractive.
Where did you live in Egypt? Of course, people from certain parts (e.g. the South) are less likely to have blond hair.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 3): Very nice report and pictures. I have to say I prefer the old MS livery and not the new one. The T3 looks nice. Shame you didnt like the food, it didnt look so bad in your pics but then I guess a pic can make something nice look bad and something bad look nice lol...
Thanks
Although I didn't like the old livery (1998-2008), the new one isn't that better. I suspect it will look dated and in retrospect, very 2000-ish.
This is my favourite:
Regarding the food, even if it was great quality, it gets boring very quickly. If you've been flying 3-4 roundtrips on MS for 15 years, well, you know what I mean
Quoting TUNisia (Reply 4): That's good to know! Last time I was in CAI the toilets in T2 left much to be desired (if one could ever desire toilet facilities?)
Yes, the T2 toilets were awful. I can't believe they had so few. T2 is an awful place to travel from. It's getting a much-needed upgrade btw.
Quoting TUNisia (Reply 4): The frames they chose look out of place... definitely. Odd.
As I said...whatever. Many public institutions/hospitals have those experimental art pieces for show. They are probably there as an afterthough. The right thing to do was to stick to a theme....aviation related, of course.
Quoting TUNisia (Reply 4): Can you scan their route map in from the mag?
Of course, but the magazine isn't too accurate. The MS map shows routes that no longer exist (e.g. CAI-SHJ-BOM, it's now CAI-BOM-KUL and SHJ is a terminator), and is missing routes that were added recently (e.g. ALY-DOH)
Quoting TUNisia (Reply 4): Ever think the subway or some type of light rail system will make it out to CAI to connect to the rest of the city?
Ah....long story! Yes, I would love Cairo's suburbs to have better connections. The part I live in (6th October City) will eventually have a million residents or so, with nearly everyone commuting to Cairo through just one route. That's terrible planning. When the city was being built in the 1990s, it would have been easy to include a metro AND and light rail system. Now it's not impossible, but it's more difficult these days. It would take a lot of bureaucracy and initiative to convince the government of such an endeavor, and I feel no one's up to the task. Same for CAI. There were 'plans' to connect it to the Metro, but that hasn't happened yet, and I don't see any construction. As a result, it can take 3 hours to from where I live to CAI. And for the record, there is no reliable bus system that connects CAI with other parts of the city.
I can only hope that CAI is one day connected by subway or rail, but unfortunately there is a big chance that this will never happen.
Quoting TUNisia (Reply 4): Thanks for the GREAT TR! It was a good read! Was so nice to see pictures from Egypt. Having only been there twice it has still left a great impression on me.
Hehe, thanks. Glad you liked it and hope you visit again
Phatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1323 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 19021 times:
Quoting OffshoreAir (Reply 1):
I can't help but think of the NFL team the Baltimore Ravens when I see the logo on the tail of the Egypt Air jets in the new paint. laughing
I was thinking more of the Carolina Panthers from the outlining blue surrounding the Horus.
And how did DirectorGuy manage to get photos at CAI? I have read on the forums of incidences where people were taking pictures one minute and the next an uzi is in their face by CAI military.
Twolz2rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 429 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 18928 times:
Great pictures! I'm glad to finally see some good pictures of the new terminal! Its gotta be a nice change from T1 and T2!
Quoting Directorguy (Reply 5): There were 'plans' to connect it to the Metro, but that hasn't happened yet, and I don't see any construction. As a result, it can take 3 hours to from where I live to CAI. And for the record, there is no reliable bus system that connects CAI with other parts of the city.
I can only hope that CAI is one day connected by subway or rail, but unfortunately there is a big chance that this will never happen.
They actually have started construction of the third metro line that would eventually link Mohandiseen to the airport. I've seen construction at Attaba and Abbasiyah so insha'allah it'll get done!
There is also a a bus that runs from downtown to the airport and back but I don't know what number it is...I always just take taxis.
Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1569 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 18866 times:
Quoting Jambo (Reply 6): do you have Mc D in terminal 3?
Not sure, I didn't see one. But I can confirm that there is a Burger King (not Hardees, sorry). In T1 there is a McDo though.
Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 7):
And how did DirectorGuy manage to get photos at CAI? I have read on the forums of incidences where people were taking pictures one minute and the next an uzi is in their face by CAI military.
I was cautious, discreet and careful. Before each snap I'd sweep the area and make sure there wasn't an officer to be seen. It was a gamble I'd paid off, but to be honest, they should have better things to do than discipline random kids taking pics
Which is a shame, because taking photos is a way of showing off how nice the new T3 is. If it was dready old T2, I'd understand perfectly if they don't want the shame to get out
Abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 4919 posts, RR: 55 Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18797 times:
First of all, thanks for a great trip report. I am flying through Cairo tomorrow and am looking forward to the experience ... though, I don't know about 10+ hours in Y class to JFK.
Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 7):
And how did DirectorGuy manage to get photos at CAI? I have read on the forums of incidences where people were taking pictures one minute and the next an uzi is in their face by CAI military.
Twolz2rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 429 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 18567 times:
Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 7): And how did DirectorGuy manage to get photos at CAI? I have read on the forums of incidences where people were taking pictures one minute and the next an uzi is in their face by CAI military
I agree with Abrelosojos...no one really cares. I've never had a problem
Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 10): I don't know about 10+ hours in Y class to JFK.
So you're taking MS?? Will a TR follow?? I'd love to see how MS compares to DL on the CAI-JFK route.
Abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 4919 posts, RR: 55 Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 18387 times:
Quoting Twolz2rn (Reply 11): So you're taking MS?? Will a TR follow?? I'd love to see how MS compares to DL on the CAI-JFK route.
= Yes. Taking the 777 service ... and unfortunately no trip report as it is a work trip ... and I don't do TR's on work trips ... come on MS people reading this board, please upgrade me . My client is super stingy and won't pay J ... and no miles upgrades on MS.
Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1569 posts, RR: 11 Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 18341 times:
Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 10): First of all, thanks for a great trip report.
You're welcome
Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 10): though, I don't know about 10+ hours in Y class to JFK.
Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 13): = Yes. Taking the 777 service ... and unfortunately no trip report as it is a work trip ... and I don't do TR's on work trips ... come on MS people reading this board, please upgrade me . My client is super stingy and won't pay J ... and no miles upgrades on MS.
Good luck with that one! I would totally dread that flight...I've never flown anything that long and I don't wanna, especially with no entertainment. I recommend you take a few long books to occupy your time.
Akhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2336 posts, RR: 53 Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 18261 times:
Wow,
What a great TR! Especially the Terminal 3 one! I will be travelling through it myself in September. I can hardly wait.
Quoting Directorguy (Reply 9): I was cautious, discreet and careful. Before each snap I'd sweep the area and make sure there wasn't an officer to be seen.
Quoting Twolz2rn (Reply 11): I agree with Abrelosojos...no one really cares. I've never had a problem
Thanks for the tips.
Quoting Directorguy (Reply 9): It was a gamble I'd paid off, but to be honest, they should have better things to do than discipline random kids taking pics
I agree with you. I would understand if they enforce this prohibition to a military airport.
Semsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 18238 times:
>>and orange hair in your 50s isn't very attractive. >>
LOL I was watching an Egyptian movie from the 60s last night and the actress had red hair. And my aunt said it does not look right.
>>Where did you live in Egypt?>.
I lived in the art deco Immobilia Building when it was the tallest building in Cairo on Cherif Pasha Street. From the 11th floor we could see the whole city / Citadel and even the pyramids in the distance. But now I am sure that is impossible.
Semsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 18234 times:
Just a history of the airport. It was built by the Americans in WW2 and was called Huckstep. Then the name was changed to King Farouk Airport until the revolution in 1952.
Caleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 322 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 17999 times:
On US carriers, I WISH we had hot meals even approaching the quality of the ones that you photographed on Egyptair. Not only that, but you were given CHOICES of main course. As a matter of fact, I wish that we could be served FREE meals. I'll take it on step further and say that I wish we could be served served meals period. I can understand that in other parts of the world, these meals may not be appetizing, but here in the States, we can only dream of such luxuries when traveling on a US based commercial airline, especially in economy.
Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1569 posts, RR: 11 Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 17768 times:
Quoting Semsem (Reply 16): LOL I was watching an Egyptian movie from the 60s last night and the actress had red hair. And my aunt said it does not look right.
That was probably Hind Rostom....the Marilyn Munroe of the East. Some Egyptian actresses could pull of the blond look (e.g. Nadia Lotfy, Nadia el Gindy, Mariam Fakhr el Din). Many were of Syrian/Lebanese/Circassian/European descent.
Quoting Semsem (Reply 16): I lived in the art deco Immobilia Building when it was the tallest building in Cairo on Cherif Pasha Street. From the 11th floor we could see the whole city / Citadel and even the pyramids in the distance. But now I am sure that is impossible.
Downtown Cairo (West el balad) was an amazing place during its heydey. The buildings, the people, the culture there was so sophisticated. It was not merely a rip-off of Paris, but a true gem in its own right. Nowadays, Downtown Cairo has deteriorated beyond recognition.
Wow...the Immobilia building is quite famous. Although I can't exactly pinpoint it, I've definately heard the name before, and I have read of it.
Quoting Semsem (Reply 17): Just a history of the airport. It was built by the Americans in WW2 and was called Huckstep. Then the name was changed to King Farouk Airport until the revolution in 1952.
Cool...I never actually knew CAI was built by the Americans (I knew they had some military installations there though). But I think during that period the civilian airport in use was Al Maza.
Quoting Akhmad (Reply 15): What a great TR! Especially the Terminal 3 one! I will be travelling through it myself in September. I can hardly wait.
Thanks, and enjoy your trip in September. Hopefully the Duty Free will be fully open by then!
Quoting Akhmad (Reply 15): I agree with you. I would understand if they enforce this prohibition to a military airport.
Correct. At CAI, there are no signs preventing people from taking pictures. But at one of the Alexandria airports, which is a former military base, there are signs and officers give people stern warnings when they take pictures.
Quoting Caleb1 (Reply 18): On US carriers, I WISH we had hot meals even approaching the quality of the ones that you photographed on Egyptair. Not only that, but you were given CHOICES of main course. As a matter of fact, I wish that we could be served FREE meals. I'll take it on step further and say that I wish we could be served served meals period. I can understand that in other parts of the world, these meals may not be appetizing, but here in the States, we can only dream of such luxuries when traveling on a US based commercial airline, especially in economy.
LOL-I really pity American passengers then! I always find it shocking that they dont' serve food. Egyptair serves a light meal on its domestic sectors, and a full lunch on the short international hops to Istanbul, Jeddah, Tripoli etc.
But the bad side is-the quality isn't that great. It's all fatty food that we can all do without. In reality, I only eat on Egyptair just to ridicule them later, and to pass the time, of course. I would rather spend $10 to buy a healthy, good quality sandwich then get a mass-produced piece of meat and undercooked rice. Only difference is, with Egyptair's fares, it would be ridiculous not to include the price of a meal in the ticket.
Semsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 17597 times:
Here is a picture of the Immobilia taken in 1939 when it was built. It had 200 apartments, about 80 offices and 40 shops. 23 Sherif Street. Of course the Pasha was removed after 1952.
Thanks for the link, pictures of Cairo's golden age are rare, and are always appreciated! Pasha was understandably removed from Cherif Pasha St., and another example is Suleiman Pasha street was renamed Talaat Harb-although many Cairenes still refer to that street as Suleiman Pasha.
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4664 posts, RR: 27 Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 17249 times:
Thank you for the interesting TR,
Quoting Directorguy (Thread starter): Nothing ‘new’ about it. One of the many paradoxes to be found in Egypt. Perhaps T3 will end up being ‘the Very New Terminal’?
What about just calling it Passenger Building 1, 2 and 3?
Quoting Directorguy (Thread starter): My mom’s perfume was also confiscated, but it was returned to her during the flight (nice touch!).
Sigh... Mothers. My mum had her knitting kit confiscated when we embarked on a domestic flight in Vietnam sometime back. The airline was nice enough to wait for us at the boarding gate at the destination to have it returned to my mum in a sealed envelope. Sometimes customer service does come through at the wierdest places where you least expect.
Quoting Directorguy (Thread starter): Most Egyptians tend to be friendly, but that doesn’t always translate into SQ-level service.
Not unless the airline implements military, precision styled training for customer service. This is SQ and their training method is really not for everyone to adopt.
Quoting Directorguy (Thread starter): I have never, and I repeat, ever, had fish that fatty. I was not aware fish could be layered with so much fat. It was revolting because I wasn’t expecting it.
Fish fat is healthy, no?
Would be nice if you had some interior shots of the cabin.
Cheers
Ryan
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SInGAPORE_AIR From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 17212 times:
Thanks for the report DirectorGuy !
Cairo Airport T3 looks very nice
Shame EgyptAir has got some way to go though....
Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
25 Directorguy: I have no idea-and I always try to combat this weird business of 'Old/New Airport' by using '1, 2 &3' but to little avail. I agree, it's a bit of a c
26 Ojas: An excellent TR! I Trips in and out of Egypt do fascinate me. Thanks for sharing.
27 Imiakhtar: Thanks for the great report and nice pics Directorguy. I've only ever flown into Cairo through the eyesore that is T2, and I have to say T3 looks much
28 Directorguy: Indeed, T2 is an eyesore. Glad you enjoyed the TR ! 2004 was a long time ago, and let's just say that the population had doubled, and tripled a few t
29 Abrelosojos: = I really wish I did this trip report ... but my own rule prevented me from doing so. CAI-JFK absolutely sucked and I would strongly recommend anyon