Dazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51 Posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2676 times:
Got to the gate, and was suprised by how many people were there at 6am. A guy I know told me it was booked to 135 (just 2 days ago it was around 90). We departed at 6:45am, just in time for me to see the sunrise, which was awsome. Flight attendants went around and got the drink orders and passed out snacks. They don't have the regular blue chips now, they are blue tortilla chips, still good though. We cruised at FL350, and the captain came on and said we would be about 10 mins early. Well....as we decend into JFK the fog was horrible. I guess visibility was down to 1/4 mile, so we were in a holding pattern at 2,000ft just outside the airport for 25 minutes. Finally he just went full throttle and started to climb again, the capt came on the speakers and said we were going to SYR. The crew went around and handed out more headphones because they already collected them. About 40 mins later we landed, and they let about 5 people off who's final destination was SYR anyways. They refueled us, and pushed us back from the gate so another JB a/c could arrive. We sat for a good 45 mins, before we got the OK to head back to JFK (at this point we were there for 90 mins). The crew handled it well, passed out more drinks, and let some of the pax use their cell phones to call famliy. So we depart again, they served drinks one more time before we landed in JFK. Since I missed my 10:40 flight to MCO, I just made it in time to catch the 1:15 departure.
N510JB? ("out of the blue")
After being rebooked, I got seat 17F, and boarded the plane. We pushed back on time, and climbed up to FL350. I ate my bagel chip mix and tried taking a nap. If I were president, I would not let little kids (under 2) fly, that's all there is to it. I've NEVER heard such a high pitched scream for such a long amount of time in my life. It was like the parents didn't care. But I did sleep for a bit, and woke up as we began our decend near JAX. Smooth landing, another great "day in the air" for me.
Djb77 From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2398 times:
Is it really such a henous crime for a child to cry? Every parent can only do so much to stop their children crying. No sane parent WANTS their child to cry yet no parent has a magic wand that they can wave to stop their child crying, even if it does inconvenience a selfish passenger. As someone that works "as a photographer at a theme park", I would have expected you to have some threshold level of tolerance as regards children. Let's face it - you chose to fly the budget carrier, families are budget-conscious, therefore they will be more likely to choose an airline offering reasonably-priced fares - maybe the next time you decide to spend your day flying around, it may be worth to pay the price and have the seclusion and above all child-free peace of first class. Then again, it was probably the price that attracted you, in the same way as the family on your flight when they chose to fly JetBlue. Or is there something lacking in my logic?
Get a life!
Jason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2370 times:
True, but parents can ATTEMPT to make their children be quiet.
Two weeks ago flying OMA-STL-JAX.... second leg I saw dramatic difference in parenting styles. The couple next to me had a lap child, and they gave it constant attention. It was extremely well behaved. When it did cry, they continued to give it attention. The row behind me had a mother in the middle seat with a child on either side of her. They screamed, kicked seats, and shouted things like "We're gonna crash!" the whole flight. The flight attendant even asked them to calm down. The only thing the mother said to her children was to "Leave me alone, I'm trying to read my book." I spent the entire flight leaning forward in my seat as the heathen behind me launched a full attack on the back of my seat. I asked him to stop twice before relenting (otherwise I would have probably grabbed the brat's foot and squeezed). The mother spoke a second time during the flight... to tell the nice lady sitting on the window next to me to mind her own business when she asked the woman's other little angel to stop kicking her seat. The least the lady behind us could have done was to tell her children it isn't polite to shout "We're gonna crash and all die! That would be really cool!" repeatedly throughout the flight.
Fanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1612 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2315 times:
Funny report, I got the joke. What were you doing in NYC? Don't you have some special connection with jetblue? You told me once, but I can't remember.
Anyway, nice report.
I'll have to agree with jason, I was on a WN flight one time where I about turned around to do some "parenting" with the back side of my hand. Same story... The mom didn't care about the kid and she was SCREAMING in Spanish DA ME LO, DA ME LO! and kicking my seat. I don't think that's the time to keep whatever the kid wanted from them if it would make them be quiet
Mls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2315 times:
Although I was lucky enough to be free from screaming, some little brat played frickin hopscotch on the back of my seat between Heathrow and O'Hare while the father was living it up in Upper Class. The only counter measure I took was reclining the seat forward and back every so often, requiring the little bitch to re-adjust the PTV angle every time I did so. I would have said something, but her slightly older brother was seated next to her and looked genuinely embarassed at her behavior, or in their case, behaviour. I noticed that the brat in question didn't have her seatbelt fastened and I was hoping and praying for some clear air turbulence to toss her right up into the roof. I guess it wasn't that bad, I must be a very patient person.
CactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2300 times:
I'm amazed at how some people to here take such offense to the sometimes sarcastic musings posted here.
I've also had problems with kids on a couple of my flights. I once had to get verbal with some kids flying alone on a SJU-MDW flight, and another time I had a kid almost hit me with his carry-on after he had climbed all over the seats to get it only because he couldn't wait for the FA to open the door and for me to move aside. You'd have thought the damn plane was on fire.
Jason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2306 times:
On another STL-JAX flight (oh, I have such luck with this flight leg, don't I?) in the past two months, there was a 16 year old girl sitting next to me with another one of her friends. I was trying to get some work done, but they talked loudly the entire flight. I heard more than I wanted to about her sex life with her boyfriend (right down to what kind of ribbing she likes on his condoms). If she didn't have such an obnoxious voice, she would have been kind of cute. The high point of the flight was when she wanted to get up and use the lavatory and didn't ask me if she wanted out. She just reached over and raised my tray table without saying anything (thus knocking my Instrument Pilot Gleim onto the floor). Not an excuse me or anything. Oh well, I guess I'm just a vengeful person.... at the baggage claim she was sitting on the edge of the carousel in the way of people trying to collect their luggage, all the while talking very loudly about how if they lose her bags this time she'll just cry. I took pleasure in yanking my suitcase off so fast and so close to her that she put her hands up to shield herself while I told her that I hope her bags are run over by the truck. But, I guess I'm just mean. I'm the type of person on an airplane who pops out a book as soon as I sit down and doesn't socialize with my seat opponents.
Dash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2293 times:
I had a little brat rip some of my airliner magazine from YFB-YOW. He wanted my magazine but I resisted the mom said he just wants to look. so I was embarrassed as people were looking at me becuase I did not want to give this kid my magazine. The kid ripped a 2 pages. Although I do have to thank the mom for being so strict to say thats not good! I was looking for a little more then that.
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2289 times:
On another STL-JAX flight (oh, I have such luck with this flight leg, don't I?) in the past two months, there was a 16 year old girl sitting next to me with another one of her friends. I was trying to get some work done, but they talked loudly the entire flight. I heard more than I wanted to about her sex life with her boyfriend (right down to what kind of ribbing she likes on his condoms).
Well don't keep us in suspense ... what kind?
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
Travatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2174 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2228 times:
Jason, you are my new hero.
As someone who has spent his entire adult life dealing with the traveling public, I must vehemently state:
Those obnoxious, "everybody look at me, everybody watch me, everybody listen to me" types must be taught lessons. And embarassing them in a crowd is the quickest way to do so.....they finally get the attention they have so desperately craved, but not in a completely opposite manner to which they had desired.
CcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2202 times:
Good trip report. I remember when I was on this Southwest HOU-MDW flight when this kid had kept pushing the call attendant button several times in front of me. It was kinda annoying but sometimes kids get kinda excited on a plane.
"He was right, it is a screaming metal deathtrap!"-Cosmo (from the Fairly Oddparents)
America West From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2188 times:
..."everybody look at me, everybody watch me, everybody listen to me" types must be taught lessons.
Types?? That is the way all little children are.
Babies are babies and naturally they will cry and try to attract attention. But I agree that, sitting there and doing nothing while your child is tearing pages out of the Sky Mall magazine while busting everyones ear drumbs is certainly not the answer.
My 4 year old brother has flown with us 6 times since he was born. Besides talking loud, we have never had a problem with him. I usually play with him and keep him entertained. I think that my love for aviation has rubbed off on him so he's always busy noticing things outside the window. Everytime he sees a plane, he gets excited and screams "Dave! There goes a Delta plane!!!!!!" or "Dave! What airline is that?!?!"
Diciplining your child is difficult these days. You can't give your child a firm hand across the behind without a complete stranger getting all up in your business and screaming "child abuse!"
Zoomer From Netherlands, joined Dec 2000, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2185 times:
My kids did a lot of flying at a young age and were always well behaved. My wife and I took turns to keep them occupied. We also taught them to be considerate to others. Unfortunately, not many adults know the meaning of consideration these days so there's even less hope for their kids. Check in early and ask for the last row - at least there will be nobody behind you! Alternatively, if your flight isn't quite full, board last and check who's occupying the seats around yours. If you don't like what you see, move on to another empty seat somewhere else.
JetBlue320 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 2161 times:
Justin, What are you talking about, I like sarcasm, but I have had old ladies (No offense) bug me to the point just as children have. This 70 year old lady annoyed me to the point on one of my 717 flights where I moved to the back, and the three 7,9,and 10 year old girls were more behaved than she was.
Jason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 2171 times:
I had an old lady on a Phoenix to Puerto Vallarta flight next to me try to feed me fruit repeatedly. She had a lot of fresh fruit in a bag with her and the flight attendant told her she couldn't take it into Mexico with her, so she spent the flight eating it and trying to get me to eat it with her.
Worse yet she was staying at the same hotel and we ran into her twice.... both times she reminded me how good grapefruit is and that I should have had some on the plane!