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DL 777-200LR BusinessElite, Atlanta To Dubai  
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3212 posts, RR: 13
Posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hey all,

Just got back from an amazing trip to DXB, and my first flights on the 777-200LR's. While 747-400 remains my favorite ever widebody, the 772LR is one hell of an amazing plane. Talk about incomprehensibly huge engines when you see them up close!! While I finally, actually, took a trip to spend some time in the destination, I accomplished a side-goal of setting a new personal record for distance and duration, with the DXB-ATL flight going slightly north of 7900 miles and a 15:15 blocktime. Final itinerary:

DEN-BWI: UA 752
BWI-ATL: DL M80
ATL-DXB: DL 77L
DXB-ATL: DL 77L
ATL-PIT: DL M80
PIT-DTW: NW CR9
DTW-DEN: NW 320




05 September 2009
DL8, ATL-DXB
Block Time: 14 hours, 10 minutes
777-232/LR, N702DN, ship# 7102
Seat: 11D, BusinessElite

Load Factor-
Business: 70%
Coach: 85%

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Photo © Agustin Anaya






My plans for a trip over Labor Day weekend began with the idea of just doing a quickturn trip on JFK-DKR, DKR-JFK to get an Africa route on my FlightMemory map Big grin

However, given rapid bookings on the route, my plans eventually changed over to do DXB. Having perviously done two trips to KWI, I wanted to go back to the Middle East, so DXB was the easy choice, especially since it is now served with the brand new 772LR's of DL.



Ship 7103 (N703DN) going to LAX and continuing onward to SYD


When I landed in ATL, arriving from BWI, I noticed three 772LR's sitting together in front of one of the maintenance hangar. I then realized.... all four 772LR routes depart all within a few hours of eachother. DXB, SYD, JNB, and BOM, all depart in the late evening hours. Interesting aircraft utilization, I thought.



Ship 7102 (N702DN) for my flight to DXB



BusinessElite check-in line for the customer service center on concourse E


I got to ATL with quite a few hours to kill, so I ended up justing finding an unused & quiet gate area with power plugs and watching a few DVD episodes of my new favorite show until boarding time.



Departures board, showing DL8 with nonstop service to DXB


Given the relatively light load in J-class and the short nonrev list, I only used an S3 (for those of you familiar with the DL nonrev system. Never hurts to have 26 years seniority too though, haha. God how I'll miss that when it's gone!!



Ship 7106 (N706DN) just prior to departure for JNB. Can't wait to fly there!!


About 1.5 hours prior to departure, the gate agents called my name for seat assignment. I asked for a rather specific seat assignment if it was available... a window seat in the aft J-cabin, behind doors 2LR. After regarding me for a long time, wondering why quite such a specific request, the agent gave me 11D, window in the aft cabin.



Gate podium for DL8 to DXB


As for the "why" I wanted a window in the aft cabin - simple. The ATL-DXB is the only flight that has daylight, the westbound flies in the pitch dark the entire flight. So, I needed pictures out the window on the eastbound. Secondly, I love pictures over the wing and engine, so I wanted to make sure I had a good view of them, thus aft of doors 2LR, haha.



Aft BusinessElite cabin. I was *very* impressed



View from my seat, looking forward and left toward door 2L



Looking forward from the starboard aisle, toward the fwd J-cabin


After boarding and getting settled, it became rather clear that almost everyone around me were the other nonrevs listed for the flight. It seems the aft J-cabin is more unpopular with the Biz Class pax, for some reason, as the fwd J-cabin went totally full - all seats occupied. Lucky for me though, as I prefer the aft cabin anyway.



View of the cockpit - sorry for the poor lighting and blur


I went up to the cockpit for awhile and talked to the crew, all of whom were very nice. Upon hearing I was both a nonrev and a pilot myself (working on Commercial ASEL) we all had a great time talking. They all had tons of great ideas for things to do while in DXB as well, so time well spent up in the flight deck!!



Another view of the cockpit


Shortly after going back to my seat, the gate agents closed the doors and we were off to DXB, for the next 14 hours and 10 minutes.



Door 2L closed



Pushback from ATL - sorry for the blur, ughhhhh


This was my first time on a GE-powered 777, much less on the LR with the absolutely gigantic GE90-110B's. The sound of them starting up was really unique, far more so than the PW or RR motors.. I'm not sure if it's a whine unique to the higher-powered GE90-110B's, or if it's common across all GE90 types. In any case, very cool sound on start-up!!



Slats still down, just after takeoff from ATL


Just after takeoff, I brought out the PTV system. For the most part, I really like the Delta AVOD, save for their moving map feature which I REALLY don't like compared to other airlines. I much prefer the version offered by NW, especially it's "free roam" feature.



Just taking off out of ATL, only 7000 miles plus change to go  bigthumbsup 



Interesting feature on the moving map for the DL flights to DXB and KWI (route now terminated)


After taking my requisite pictures of the moving map, and giving my dinner order, I began going through the movie selections to find something to watch over the dinner service. While not sure, I think the AVOD selection on the 772LR is much more comprehensive and larger than the AVOD databases on the other fleet types. In any case, I about died on the spot when I saw that "TOP GUN" was one of the movie selections available. I started that up right away!!



Finest movie created by all mankind. Obviously some divine influence in its making, as if the F-14 wasn't God-like enough anyway  devil 



Zone 5 afterburner. The guy sitting across from me seemed a bit perplexed as to why I was taking pictures of a movie  Silly



Coolest Navy fighter ever?? Definitely. "Tomcats by choice, Hornets by mandate"


Alright, enough of my TOP GUN cheerleading, haha. For dinner, I ordered the chicken option as I usually do. I forgot to get a picture of it, but with the starter of the warm nuts, I got my favorite - and requisite - CranApple juice.



Soup, salad, bread, and appetizer. All very good, I'm becoming a quick fan of the DL international service.



Chicken entree. The vegetables were incredibly spicy, began to make me sweat a bit. Then again, my tolerance for spicy foods is about a 2 on a scale from 1 to 10.


After dinner, still being exhausted from getting up so early that day, I fell asleep really easily. Now, as a comment regarding the DL new BusinessElite vs the UA new UnitedBusiness, the DL product beats it far and away. Both in terms of food service and in terms of the seats themselves. Flat beds, direct aisle access, and privacy dividers. DL's seats were also a lot wider, allowing me to lay flat even with my somewhat broad shoulders. In the UA seats, I had to lay on my side a bit to be comfortable. So again, DL's J-class is *definitely* better than UA's new J-class.



Terrible sun glare, somewhere over Eastern Europe



Flying over Iraq, soon to fly almost directly over Baghdad



Zoomed in map view



Looking down over the desert of Iraq, just north of Baghdad


Just after clearing Iraqi airspace, the FA's began the arrival meal service. One of the options being a vegetarian pizza, I just couldn't pass that up!!



Arrival meal, served approx 1.5 hours to go until landing



Moving map flight stats page, on descent toward DXB



Rapidly flying into the sunset, on descent into DXB


After the trays were collected from the final meal service, I just watched out the window for near the rest of the flight. I'll back up a bit though, in regard to my opinion of the new products at UA and DL. While the DL ones are considerably nicer, they are a MAJOR pain in the ass to look out the window, having to crane your neck around so you're near looking behind you, given the angle of the seats.



Only about 20-30 minutes of daylight remaining on the horizon



Final sunset over DXB, not yet even on final approach... approx 700pm local time


Customs in DXB was remarkably easy, especially since I was one of the first off the plane. As I was waiting in line for passport control, I was talking to one of the other nonrevs. I was surprised to hear that he was doing a quickturn, just going for the passport stamp then turning around and heading back to ATL right away. I didn't give him any hell for it though, I've done that way too many times myself!!

The next day in DXB, I went around to as many of the iconic attractions and tourist spots as I could, with my rather limited time in the city. Time well spent though, I really enjoyed Dubai.



One of the most expensive hotels in the world - the Burj al Arab. Note the helipad near the spire.



Given how it was Ramadan when I visited, almost no one was around anywhere. Total ghost-town. Kinda nice for taking pictures, actually.



The Atlantis Dubai. On the immediate left of the picture is the train track that runs out to the hotel



The legendary Ski Dubai. I would have gone but... $100 bucks for 3 hours was a bit steep for me  Wink



And, of course, the tallest building in the world: Burj Dubai. Being deathly afraid of heights, I was relived in a way that you can't yet go up in the tower... otherwise I would have had to go to the observation deck and take a few pictures, haha






07 September 2009
DL7, DXB-ATL
Block Time: 15 hours, 15 minutes
777-232/LR, N707DN, ship# 7107
Seat: 11D, BusinessElitie

Load Factor-
Business: 60%
Coach: 75%

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After a great, but very quick stay in DXB, it was time to head back to the states. I was really looking forward to the flight home, given how it would set personal records for me, both longest distance and duration.



Very nice and spacious observation area adjacent to the food court


At check-in, I was surprised to immediately be given a seat assignment. I knew the load was light, but I didn't expect the agents to clear me into business class nearly 3.5 hours before departure time. That's sure a stress-reliever!!



Gate 113 for DL7 to ATL



The incredibly fancy DXB terminal building



Duty Free mall area



Duty Free mall taken from the floor above


After killing quite a bit of time in the airport on the free wifi (God love airports with free wifi) I made my way to the gate just prior to the start of the boarding process. Interestingly, the UA flight to IAD was departing from the gate right next to us, 1 hour and 40 minutes scheduled after the DL7 departure time.



Best picture I could get of our plane back to ATL, ship 7107 (N707DN)


In a bizarre moment of luck, as I made no specific seat request at check-in, I was given seat 11D again. Given how the entire flight would be in the pitch dark of night, I didn't care if I had a window or not. But, it was nice to be in 11D again, I liked the location of it as well as the view of the GE90-110B right outside.



UA 777-200/ER, N797UA, bound for IAD in approx 1 hour and 40 minutes. It's quite rare to see UA 777's with N7xxUA registrations doing flights north of 12 hours.



Looking toward the rear of the cabin, most pax still getting settled in.



Direct view forward from 11D



View from 11D looking aft toward the coach cabin



The other nonrevs very impressed with the BusinessElite seats, taking group photos Big grin


After pushback, taxi out to the runway was very fast, the pilots intentionally making a PA to inform the FA's of this, telling them to take their seats within 2 or 3 minutes. I love short taxis!! Once airborne, the purser came around taking meal orders. I ordered the chicken, as usual, disappointed to hear that they didn't have any left. Oh well, such is the life of the nonrev. So, I just got the beef option instead. Turned out to be really good as well though, I'm really not all that picky.



Soup, salad, bread, and appetizer



Beef entree. Delicious red wine, as well.


Being totally exhausted from a full day out exploring the ungodly hot & humid city, after dessert I reclined my seat and fell asleep for about 8 hours straight. That was the first solid sleep I had got in about 3 days - much needed!!



Moving map, us passing between Iceland and Greenland


Falling asleep again after my picture of the map, I probably would have slept all the way until final approach but the FA's were kind enough to wake up to see if I wanted breakfast before arrival. When given the option between an omelette and pancakes, I quickly went with the pancakes - haven't had those in forever, much less on a plane!



Breakfast service, about 1.5 hours prior to arrival back in ATL



On descent into ATL, from a very northerly track over the Atlantic



Moving map, just prior to final approach. We'd go on to surpass 7900 miles, getting very close to the full 8000. I'm not sure if we ever hit 8000 or not, but I know we got close. That's into the wind also... I was very impressed with the 772LR!!


We were extremely lucky to be the first early morning arrival into customs in ATL, beating out the flights from EZE, SCL, GRU, and others. As such, customs went VERY fast for me, as I only had carry-on baggage. I can see, though, how ATL is probably a nightmare in customs during peak arrivals hour from Europe and such.



Ship 7107 unloaded and being cleaned, after the *long* flight from DXB


Final impressions... DL has a fantastic plane in their brand new 777-200LR's. Great interiors, excellent AVOD selections, and just an overall kickass plane. Like my signature line says... 4 engines 4 long haul is obsolete. 777-200LR: 2 engines 4 longer haul  thumbsup 


Thanks in advance for all responses!!




65 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1106 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Wow! I believe this is the first TR covering the 77L Business Elite. Overall, the product looks very nice but I think EK is still superior to DL in J. Thanks for sharing and yes the 77L is awesome!

User currently offlineGlobetraveller From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 379 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi there Transpac787,

An excellent trip report! Some interesting pictures and great detail as well. I was recently on a similar flight with a 77L and I agree with you: that is one amazing aircraft!

Thank you for all your efforts. Great report!

Globetraveller


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
DEN-BWI: UA 752

Funny how I always get bombed for WN loads request and you have yet to take one..ok one or few but still  Wink

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
. In any case, I about died on the spot when I saw that "TOP GUN" was one of the movie selections available. I started that up right away!!

Oh dear sweet jesus, the poor folks on the plane who probably heard you watching the movie, or maybe caught your lips moving in motion, quoting the move from start to finish...

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
The guy sitting across from me seemed a bit perplexed as to why I was taking pictures of a movie

You need help boy, serious, help Big grin

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Alright, enough of my TOP GUN cheerleading, haha.

As deaf as I may be, I'll never stop hearing that from you!!!

Good report! Sorry I couldn't go, as last minute as you pulled that trip on me!

Looks like a good time was had, you always make it complicated to fly around the country to get to your destination to try your intl segments, good grief.

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Never hurts to have 26 years seniority too though, haha. God how I'll miss that when it's gone!!

Yeah I bet it's cool to have more seniority than you have years on the earth..lol Is it still 23 when dependant benefits end? Anyway you sure get around..lol



NWA THE TRUE EVIL EMPIRE
User currently offlineXAAPB From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 439 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Amazing TR!! DL BusinessElitie product looks superb!!
thanks for sharing



Jorge Meneses
User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Think of it...ATL to DXB. 10 years ago I would have never imagined this flight! Maybe 5 years ago even.

Did you get a big Dubai passport stamp?

Was the 16 hour flight in darkness the whole time depressing or strange?

The pics are great. Glad to see you got out and explored and took good pics. Well wait a second, most of the pics are good. The Top Gun pics? I'm inclined to agree with Alex and the guy across the aisle here! (Plz don't point out that I put movie pics in some of my TRs!--pot/kettle)

Sounds like a really fun trip. Glad you got to do it and thanks for sharing it here!

Matt


User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1608 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great Report! I hope to try the seats on the way to SYD some day... Just not sure I want to cash in that many miles...lol


"FLY DELTA JETS"
User currently offlineCOalways From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Nice trip Report but i would be REALLY be PEEVED if i purchased a full fare for DL BE product the meals service looks well tiny the meal portions are VERY small compared to CO BussinessFirst product. CO has bigger meal portions on EWR-ATL then DL has on ATL-DXB.

CO salad portions are bigger then DL main coarse just look at this trip report....
Euro Trip On CO And LH(Pics)! (by EwRkId Aug 10 2009 in Trip Reports)

DL is really loseing there touch the new seat look OK but those screens are WAY to small.


User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1608 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting COalways (Reply 8):
CO salad portions are bigger then DL main coarse just look at this trip report....
Euro Trip On CO And LH(Pics)! (by EwRkId Aug 10 2009 in Trip Reports)

DL is really loseing there touch the new seat look OK but those screens are WAY to small.

Just so you know, DL is using newer more trendy plates, that are much larger than the meal presented. I'm guessing the portions are about the same, but CO's plates are much smaller. Trust me. I've flown about 10 different trips in Business Elite and there is PLENTY of food, by the time you have your appetizer, salad/soup, main course, cheese and fruit plate, and ice cream sundae, you're stuffed. CO isn't any better in this regard, and I think you'd find many people would testify that DL's food is of superior quality.



"FLY DELTA JETS"
User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Thanks for sharing....great TR-and the new BizElite seats are fantastic!

Glad you enjoyed Dubai-yes it's a ghost town during the day, but it's oddly serene and provided you carry a bottle of water with you, you won't get deheydrated.
If you think September's bad-you should have been here in Jun/Jul/Aug. It's actually somewhat breezy these days.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
The legendary Ski Dubai. I would have gone but... $100 bucks for 3 hours was a bit steep for me

Ah, but also fun! But at the same time, kinda boring doing it solo...this would work best as a group thing.

Glad you enjoyed it-and btw, I see the DL 777 almost every night. Kinda cool that unknown to both of us, two a.nutters were appreciating the beauty of the 777 are the same time.
Thanks for sharing Big grin
Regards,
DG


User currently offlinePrinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

The plates might be "trendy" but the overall presentation is rather poor. I have served better meals on domestic F-Class during my flying days.


PRINAIR : Puerto Rico International Airlines
User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6577 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Nice report! WIsh I had got to try Business Elite on my recent flight to SYD, see trip report....

I did have nice flight in Y and I agree that the DL 777-200/LR is an awesome aircraft!!

I'll probably go to DXB in a few weeks but will try to nonstop DXB-LAX on EK on the way back.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineTk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 341 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great report! The seat and cabin looks fantastic. Presentation of the main course looks really appealing but aside from that the meal doesn't look that appetising especially on the DXB-ATL leg of the trip.

777-200LR is fantastic to fly on but I also prefer the B747 Big grin

TK747


User currently offlineTriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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With the way the seats are angled in Business Elite I was wondering how can u look out the windows? It seems very difficult, if not impossible. I'm not sure why they have seating plans like that because there are some (like me) who still like a window to look out of.
Thx for ur TR.



Have you kissed a 777 today?
User currently offlineN707PA From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:



Boy, this pic is gonna drive Flyertalkers nuts.....


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2123 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

Hello Transpac787,

Nice report, as usual ... lots of pictures.

I would be interested if you could elaborate more on the service in Business Elite ?

How were the f/a's ? You were able to sleep a lot, so they clearly didn't make so much noise as some crews like to do ?

What about between meal services, are they present, do they pick up service items, water runs ?

What about food between services, is there a "bar" set up in the galley ?

Although I have never experienced it the Delta meal service seems to be appropriate for a business class product ... I like how everything is plated in the galley, especially the main course ... unlike one of Delta's main SkyTeam partners  Embarrassment

makes me realise for the main service did you take dessert ?? I always have to have dessert ! hahaha.

The only drawback I see of the seats on the 77L is that everyone is facing each other ... nevermind the sight of feet everywhere LOL.

Last question : how were the ground staff in DXB ?

Looking forward to more of your trips !



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3212 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 2):
I was recently on a similar flight with a 77L and I agree with you: that is one amazing aircraft!

Definitely!! Where'd you take yours??

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 3):
Funny how I always get bombed for WN loads request and you have yet to take one..ok one or few but still

Let me remind you, Mr Trude, that WN was delayed like 1.5 hours  Wink

Further, I tried like hell to get that earlier 735, I love the stubby guppy!!

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 3):
Oh dear sweet jesus, the poor folks on the plane who probably heard you watching the movie, or maybe caught your lips moving in motion, quoting the move from start to finish...

Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full  Wink

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 3):
You need help boy, serious, help

WHY SO SERIOUS???  devil 

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 3):
Looks like a good time was had, you always make it complicated to fly around the country to get to your destination to try your intl segments, good grief.

Oh the things we do for Frequent Flier milage, haha.

Quoting Stratosphere (Reply 4):
lol Is it still 23 when dependant benefits end?

Sadly, yes. Counting down the days...

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 6):
Did you get a big Dubai passport stamp?

Yea, three of em actually. 2 on entry, 1 on exit. I prefer the stamps from KWI but still cool to have another from the Middle East!!

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 6):
Was the 16 hour flight in darkness the whole time depressing or strange?

Not really. I did it once before on SFO-SYD, 14.5 hours in the pitch dark over the Pacific.

I know some people don't like flying in the dark like that but I don't much mind it. Being a disciple to Boeing I have the faith of God in the 744 and 777, I'd take them on just about anything. ETOPS-330?? Bring it on  Wink

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 6):
(Plz don't point out that I put movie pics in some of my TRs!--pot/kettle)

Haha!! Yea I always feel weird taking pics of the screen since I usually get weird looks from the neighbor pax but I get over it pretty quick and do it anyway lol

Quoting COalways (Reply 8):
DL is really loseing there touch the new seat look OK but those screens are WAY to small.

They weren't *that* small, especially for how close they were to you. It's not like one has difficulty seeing it that close.

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 10):
but it's oddly serene

It really was, I definitely enjoyed feeling like I was the only person around.

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 10):
Ah, but also fun! But at the same time, kinda boring doing it solo...this would work best as a group thing.

Quite true. I'd love to go back and try it, despite only living a few hours from EGE and ASE, haha.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
I'll probably go to DXB in a few weeks but will try to nonstop DXB-LAX on EK on the way back.

Wow!! Definitely TR on that!! To be honest, DXB-ATL is not really that far for a plane as impressive as the 772LR. DXB-LAX, however, is definitely a route more suited to the LR!!

Quoting Tk747 (Reply 13):
but I also prefer the B747 

Good man  Wink

None faster, none finer, the 747-400

Quoting Triple7man (Reply 14):
I was wondering how can u look out the windows? It seems very difficult, if not impossible.

It was indeed very difficult, as one one more major complaint about the new configuration. Where I sat, 11D, there are no windows in front of that seat, so I had to turn around in my seat to see (and take pictures) out the window.

Quoting N707PA (Reply 15):
Boy, this pic is gonna drive Flyertalkers nuts.....

Oh?? How's that??

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 16):
How were the f/a's ?

Most were very good. Being a long international flight, the crew was mostly quite senior but the majority of them still provided excellent service, especially the purser.

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 16):
You were able to sleep a lot, so they clearly didn't make so much noise as some crews like to do ?

Here's the thing about that.

The couple of a.nut's that I've flown with will tell you that I have an uncanny ability to sleep on planes... typically falling asleep before takeoff on domestic flights, haha. So on international, I usually don't have any problem sleeping for 8 or 9 hours straight without interruption.

So even if there was a bunch of galley noise or commotion in the aisles, I sleep through it anyway. So unfortunately I can't much comment about the FA's in that regard, haha.

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 16):
water runs ?

All the time. Every time I woke up, I'd have two new water bottles at my seat.

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 16):
What about food between services, is there a "bar" set up in the galley ?

Yes, quite a good one. Fresh fruit, cheese, crackers, yogurt, water bottles, chips, etc.

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 16):
Last question : how were the ground staff in DXB ?

Most excellent. Very professional and spoke remarkably good english.


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Dude, you fly too much  Silly Speaking of...up for a SYD trip at the end of the month? LAX-SYD (DL 77L) SYD-SIN (QF A388) SIN-NRT-somewhere in the US (NW 333/744)

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
I can see, though, how ATL is probably a nightmare in customs during peak arrivals hour from Europe and such.

Yes it is  Smile



911, where is your emergency?
User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 16):
Quoting N707PA (Reply 15):
Boy, this pic is gonna drive Flyertalkers nuts.....

Oh?? How's that??

Because in their minds, nonrevs don't have any business in upper classes. They are paranoid that their upgrade seats are being given to nonrevs.



Bring back Bethune!
User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2363 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hey Matt:

Long time no talk! This is my favorite TR from you, did your wallet have an echo after leaving DXB?  

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
After pushback, taxi out to the runway was very fast,

Is there a specific reason for this? Always a fan of planes taxiing fast!  

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Pushback from ATL - sorry for the blur, ughhhhh

Did you hurt your neck looking out the window?


Overall great TR! Matt! Keep em comin!

EDIT: Is that a widget salt shaker I see in one of your pics? I wish I had one of those!

[Edited 2009-09-10 11:16:08]


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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8551 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Great report and write up on Delta's ULH service.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
in regard to my opinion of the new products at UA and DL. While the DL ones are considerably nicer, they are a MAJOR pain in the ass to look out the window, having to crane your neck around so you're near looking behind you, given the angle of the seats.

- The main reason I'm not keen on this kind of cabin layout.

I've gotta say DL look pretty darn good here, food inc presentation looks good too, usually one of the major problems with US carriers, not here!

I've a DL Biz El flight in Nov, only JFK-LHR but I'm now looking forward to it.

Thanks

Mark



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User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 915 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great TR as always and it is good to see that you stayed in a city for a day or two verses you usual 36 hours of non-stop flying.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
I saw that "TOP GUN" was one of the movie selections available.

Great Movie, I love it when you can watch classic movies on the AVOD.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Flying over Iraq, soon to fly almost directly over Baghdad

Did you guys fly over Iran?? It kind looks like you are going to or did you go over Kuwait

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Given how it was Ramadan when I visited, almost no one was around anywhere. Total ghost-town. Kinda nice for taking pictures, actually.

Good to keep in mind when I eventually head out there

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
The other nonrevs very impressed with the BusinessElite seats, taking group photos Big grin

I always find it funny that Non-Rev's are the only people who take pix on airplanes, even though they are on them all the time

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
I can see, though, how ATL is probably a nightmare in customs during peak arrivals hour from Europe and such.

I can not speak for ATL but for other places I know how much of a relief that can be when you are the first arrival in during the blocks

Quoting Fiveholer (Reply 19):
Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 16):
Quoting N707PA (Reply 15):
Boy, this pic is gonna drive Flyertalkers nuts.....

Oh?? How's that??

Because in their minds, nonrevs don't have any business in upper classes. They are paranoid that their upgrade seats are being given to nonrevs.

That makes no sense why they get mad non-revs get the seats AFTER all of the upgrades are done, and from my experience non-revs are always better behaved in upper classes then a lot of paying customers



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User currently offline9V-SPJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Nice report! The LR is a beautiful aircraft. I flew it on ATL-BOM-ATL, it was great! The economy seats are really comfy, even after 18 hrs. I and my friend were walking around TechOps back in March and happened to stumble upon a brand new 7103! It smelled like a new car, and yes the GE's are MASSIVE. I especially like the sound and feeling during startup!

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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 17):
Let me remind you, Mr Trude, that WN was delayed like 1.5 hours

But in typical WN fashion, we grabbed another aircraft, swapped it and that DEN-BWI left on time! it was YOU who didn't want the 737-300  Wink

However, you got F on UA right? So I won't complain too much...

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
25 HOOB747 : Thanks for the effort in the report, and your photos were wonderful. I hope to fly the route in the future, and was curious if the Burj will have an o
26 Transpac787 : Yea I'd love to try something like that if I can get work off again!! How much does an SQ ZED cost?? What a ridiculous thought on their part. Guess t
27 Fiveholer : Yep, I love the bare feet on the bulkhead. Classy. Danny
28 Fiveholer : Oh, yes. Go read the OnePass forum over there on Flyertalk. Some good ones.
29 KaiGywer : We don't get ZED on SQ, but we do on QF.
30 Transpac787 : Oh, duhh.... I can't believe I mis-read that. Old age is a terrible thing
31 GayStudPilot : A lot of cute young pups on the outbound! Was that in the early 80s? I agree. I hate that dirty cart in the aisle. It's tacky and screams LAZY, especi
32 Burj : Actually with Delta they have somewhat of a point. If you are a Plat with Delta they give you these PMU certificates that in THEORY you can use if yo
33 Global97 : Great TR!!!!!!! -Global
34 Egyptair269 : Great TR! DL's premium product looks superb, the AVOD, and especially the meals are wow! I just have a question how would you compare the herringbone
35 HOOB747 : Heck, I've done it on a 600 mile trip Columbus to Philadelphia, just for the miles, to achieve Premier Executive status with United. Nothing like a d
36 LAXintl : Sounds like you made good use of your quick visit. Yes it being Ramadan definitely changes the character of the city a bit. This I am surprised about.
37 Egyptair269 : But wouldnt it be just cheaper to buy miles? (only on the FFP programs that offer that ofcourse)
38 HOOB747 : Haha, no, I thought of that too. $200 ticket and I had to fly (Elite Qualifying Miles) for the status, couldn't by the miles to achieve Premier Execu
39 Transpac787 : It's nice to have a private "suite" and direct aisle access from even the window seat, but looking out the window is a pain in the neck - literally.
40 BigBadBoo : Good report, would have liked to see the lounges though! United has a nifty public site that lets you keep track of their progress in converting their
41 Panamair : Great TR as usual! Yes, the 77L's Panasonic system has more than 150 movies to choose from, compared to about 30 on the other fleet types. I know you
42 Transpac787 : Yea, I didn't even think to go up to the one in DXB!! AFAIK, they don't have any similar site, however there are quite a few privately-run sites like
43 DLSLC : What is the reasoning for this and the specific registration? Great report, thanks. DLSLC
44 Transpac787 : N782UA through N799UA, plus N204UA and N206UA, are all 29xx ship numbers, meaning their cabin configuration are 12F/49C/197Y and do not have any crew
45 KaiTakFan : I find it very interesting that you happend to sit right infront of my old room mate and his boyfriend on Delta 8, with photos to prove it as well!!!
46 Chris78cpr : Actually it's more to the point that Delta seem to ignore it when there are pax on the plane booked in Y due to whatever reason that are Diamond/Plat
47 Transpac787 : No offer?? Of course not. A free upgrade like that would absolutely trash your international yields. Those diamond/platinum members probably have TON
48 XJRamper : Just flew in those seats a few days ago to SYD. Best sleep I got on any flight in BE. My only complaint was the lack of storage space. great report ma
49 Elevate : A fantastic, well written, great photographed report!
50 Fun2fly : Heading to Australia. Doing some research on carriers. Considering SQ A345 (EWR) vs. DL 77L (LAX) vs. UA 744 (LAX). Carrier service aside, I need the
51 Aluminumcity : Wow, those businessElite seats look IDENTICAL except for the fabric to the Air Canada Executive First XM seats on their 767, 777s and A330s. Wow. Are
52 HOOB747 : Buying the miles wouldn't have done me any good, as I needed 700 more elite qualifying miles for my Exec. status, and the only way to earn EQM's is t
53 Mayor : Exactly. It gripes me when people complain about non-revs riding in F or C when they KNOW that the non-revs are the last ones to get seats.
54 N104UA : I guess you just have to be a Non-Rev to understand it, and also the premier would probably rather have that seat next to him empty rather then it oc
55 Mayor : Then your credibility when it comes to nonrevs on DL is sort of suspect, isn't it? I'm sorry, but I don't feel sorry for those Diamond/Platinum membe
56 RJpieces : Great trip report! Currently, just the 777-200 LRs and the 767-400s have the new lie-flat seats (but different ones), correct?
57 Carlisle : They have EVV - EVANSVILLE, INDIANA my hometown !!! Excellent TR and yes, the 77L is an amazing piece of heavy metal. Thank you for sharing the photo
58 OptionsCLE : I think the rationale there is that a business class seat, on it's own, is $5-20K round trip. If you incentivize your high frequency customers NOT to
59 Transpac787 : I would suggest UA in that case, as their J-cabin configuration is 2-4-2 and you could get 4 seats together in the middle section. No, it's a new typ
60 Aces727 : Nice trip report... Love the Dubai pictures. Glad to see that Delta is no longer sending the 763 to DXB.
61 Panamair : Delta has never sent a 763ER to DXB. The first time Delta entered the DXB market was in 2001 from JFK via CAI and it was operated with an MD11. That
62 Aces727 : I've seen Delta's 767-300 in Dubai myself. November of 2008.
63 JHCRJ700 : Great Report I have a question. How do you like the angled seats?
64 Aviationbuff08 : Glad to hear you had a good time in DXB, I went there this past spring. It was great and better than I ever expected. Although I was a bit nervous sin
65 FRAspotter : Great trip report with nice pics of both DXB and the 77L. I've been to Dubai only once before (April 2004) and this report made me want to go back! An
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