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To The End Of The World On A Fokker F-28  
User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1162 posts, RR: 25
Posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12190 times:

To the End of the World on a Fokker 28 – LADE AEP-MDQ-CRD-USH

Behind the trip – I write trip report for I have never seen one covering one of Argentina’s best-hidden secrets, namely LADE – Líneas Aéreas del Estado (State-owned Airlines).

Established in the 1940s, the airline calls itself “the world’s first and only promotion airline”. Its network links Buenos Aires with some of Patagonia’s lost towns. Its aim is not making profits, but rather keep the country united, reaching places no other airline would even dare to fly. LADE (IATA ID: 5U) is owned and operated by the Argentine Air Force, and its fleet consists of a bunch of Fokker aircraft (F-27 and F-28), some Twin Otters and, since this year, some brand new Saab 340, received as a replacement for the F-28s.

Two friends, including fellow a.netter LV-ZXV, and yours truly wished to fly to Ushuaia, the southernmost city in the world, in order to spend some days discovering the mysterious and fascinating island of Tierra del Fuego. Even though most people going there wouldn’t even consider an option other than AR, we decided it would be most interesting to try 5U on the way there, even if price was the same and it meant two stops. Besides, you do not get the chance to fly a Fokker 28 very often these days.

Booking and buying – This trip took place on December 2008, and LADE’s website (www.lade.com.ar) was not working at the time. This meant going to the airline’s office at Perú Street, in San Telmo district. I bought the ticket there using my debit card, and in no time I was going back to work with my e-ticket receipt and a huge paper stating flights were sometimes cancelled due to the eruption of Chaitén volcano, on the Argentina-Chile Patagonian border. The only thing I could was to pray our flight wouldn’t be cancelled!

Check-in – It was finally December 26th, 2008. I got to AEP around noon, some two hours before departure, and met there my two friends. We checked ourselves in at LADE’s counters, located at “B” area, that is, the smaller hall where all airlines but AR and 4M have their counters. I don’t really remember our flight information, for I have since then apparently lost my boarding pass, which I kept as a souvenir. The boarding pass itself was a blue piece of paperboard with the words “LADE – Tarjeta de Embarque” written on it, the airline’s logotype (a falcon with its wings wide open and the word “LADE” under it) and an empty space where the agent would write the seat number. This flight, however, was a free-seating one, so the empty space remained, excuse the pun, empty.

Boarding – We went through security and got into a small waiting area from where most 5U and 8R flights board, for both airlines’ planes are the only ones at AEP not able to connect themselves with the jetway. After waiting for a while whilst 8R passengers to MDQ boarded, our flight was called, and we were bussed to the aircraft. Our Fokker F-28-1000C, flying under the military registration TC-53, was around 35 years old at the time, but just came from a D-Check at Lockheed Martin Argentina’s facilities in Córdoba, where it was refurbished. Overall, even if the aircraft looked aged, you’d never guess it was that old. I settled myself at the rear of the aircraft, right next to the engine. That, I would regret for the next five hours, for the noise was killing me.

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Getting onboard the F-28

First leg
From: Aeroparque Jorge Newbery (AEP), Buenos Aires
To: Aeropuerto Internacional Astor Piazzola (MDQ), Mar del Plata


After boarding, security announcements were done by one of the two flight attendants, a male and a female, in Spanish only. We took off with a minor delay from runway 13 headed south towards our first stop, Mar del Plata. There is no service on this leg. After some 45 minutes, we started our descent and got some very nice views of the beaches, full of people on a hot summer day. The same 8R Saab which took off to MDQ right before us was already parked at the terminal. Passengers continuing their journey to Comodoro Rivadavia and Ushuaia were not allowed to leave the plane. Load on the AEP-MDQ leg was around 60%, and quite a few passengers left at Mar del Plata. However, the plane was packed in the MDQ-CRD sector. Once everyone was onboard, we took off, once again heading south – next stop: Comodoro Rivadavia, where they wanted to discover drinkable water and all they found was petrol.

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Approach at MDQ

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Mar del Plata

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Astor Piazzola Airport with a Sol Líneas Aéreas Saab 340 just landed from AEP

Second leg
From: Aeropuerto Internacional Astor Piazzola (MDQ), Mar del Plata
To: Aeropuerto General Enrique Mosconi (CRD), Comodoro Rivadavia


By this time I was starting to feel hungry, and I was relieved when I saw the trolleys getting filled in order to start the service. Even though the amount of food was indeed quite meager, both the cold cuts and the strawberry mousse were tasty. I was extremely surprised by the fact 5U offered alcoholic drinks onboard, including wine and champagne, something neither AR nor 4M do on domestic routes. Thumbs up for the Air Force! My friend LV-ZXV is a very fancy man who grew up in trendy London, which explains why he had some champagne at the expense of Argentine taxpayers. I am more of a Latin American guy, and whilst I find champagne to be alright, I strongly believe nothing beats a good, humble glass of red wine.

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Lunch

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Cabin view

Flight time between MDQ and CRD is around 2 hours. There were some great views of the Patagonian coastline, including Valdés Peninsula, but alas I was seated on the wrong side of the plane. On the seat pocket, one could find a brochure with a map of 5U’s routes and a copy of “Periódico del Sur”, a newspaper with information regarding tourism in Patagonia. I found it interesting that, according to the newspaper, “Periódico del Sur can be found for free onboard Líneas Aéreas del Estado and on the Presidential Fleet (Tango Airplanes)”. Approach to CRD was very bumpy, reminding us why Comodoro Rivadavia is Argentina’s very own “windy city”.

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Comodoro Rivadavia, Patagonia’s largest city

After a half-an-hour stop at CRD, it was once again time to take off, now towards our final destination – the world’s southernmost city, Ushuaia.

Third leg
From: Aeropuerto General Enrique Mosconi (CRD), Comodoro Rivadavia
To: Aeropuerto Internacional Malvinas Argentinas (USH), Ushuaia


After a bumpy take off and some views of Comodoro, we flew for another two hours across the dry and dull Patagonian coastline. The flight attendants came by after some time, offering some croissants and drinks. I settled with a coffee and an orange juice this time.

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Croissants

It is actually amazing how, once you cross the Strait of Magellan, the dry Patagonian steppe becomes a patch of green land full of peaks covered with snow. Then you know you are in the island of Tierra del Fuego. We started descent right over the Strait and managed to see Lake Fagnano (or Lake Kami, as the local tribes would call it, way before the Argentine and Chilean settlers got there), a huge lake that splits the island in two. Right after that, the city of Ushuaia, the Beagle Channel and the peaks of the Dientes de Navarino mountain range, on Chile’s Navarino Island, could be perfectly spotted.

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Strait of Magellan and the northern tip of Tierra del Fuego island

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Fagnano Lake (Lake Kami)

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Beagle Channel and the Dientes de Navarino


Landing at USH

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Malvinas Argentinas (Argentine Malvinas) International Airport

We left the plane and had to walk a bit, under freezing conditions, until we reached the terminal, where our luggage was waiting for us.

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The Old Lady resting after its 5-hour flight from Buenos Aires

Thank you very much for reading, and, as usual, comments and suggestions are always most welcome  Smile

Saludos,
Marambio


Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo
13 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineTk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 341 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12124 times:

Interesting report, and great choice of reading material Big grin

Gracias.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6670 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11886 times:

Great report with an unusual airline and destination!

Too bad LADE doesn't fly the 707 anymore.... Sad

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11870 times:

Wow, that is what I call interesting! And taking in mind it's the old Fellowship from Holland, a 5 hour flight in a row with some stops in between, is a tough job for that frame! Is it doing such runs frequently?
Good to see her still in action in Argentinia. Would love to catch a ride on that one... but I guess it will remain on my 'to do' list for a long time...

Regards,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11820 times:

Good reading material on the tray table. AR looks better than LAME>

User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1162 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11571 times:



Quoting Tk747 (Reply 1):
Interesting report, and great choice of reading material Big grin



Quoting Semsem (Reply 4):
Good reading material on the tray table. AR looks better than LAME>

I knew somebody would notice the book. Very interesting read indeed.  Smile

Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):
Great report with an unusual airline and destination!

Too bad LADE doesn't fly the 707 anymore.... Sad

Indeed it's a pitty. I almost flew the 707 and now I really regret not having taken advantage of the opportunity when it came!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 3):
Wow, that is what I call interesting! And taking in mind it's the old Fellowship from Holland, a 5 hour flight in a row with some stops in between, is a tough job for that frame! Is it doing such runs frequently?

LADE's schedules are quite aleatory, and change on a month-to-month basis, so it really depends. This said, the F-28s have been doing flights like this one quite often for the last 35 years. Imagine that until last year this same flight started at PRA (Paraná), some 400 km north of Buenos Aires, so it was a 6-hour, 3-stop flight.  Smile

Saludos,
Marambio



Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo
User currently offlineAlexEU From Nauru, joined Oct 2007, 1824 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11337 times:

Hi, Nice trip report!

Great chance to fly a F-28. I flew it in 1998...long time ago.

I didn´t know that Buenos Aires and Mar Del Plata are that far away, that it requires a plane. On maps it looks different.
Very funny to hear that Ushauia airport is called Malvinas Argentinas.

Alex


User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 10997 times:

Always used to enjoy my flights in Air UK's Fokker 100's back in the 90's out of STN and very much enjoyed your experience in the F28. Makes my log book look very ordinary

The noise issue is interesting, although being old enough to have flown in many 1-11's, early DC-9's and 727's, I guess its just that we've become used to how relatively quiet todays modern jets are, including T-tailers like the Canadair RJ and EMB series

Regards, Shankly



L1011 - P F M
User currently offlineDCAJet From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 445 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10865 times:

Excellent report. LADE seems to have frozen in time (and not so much because of the equipment - it is the Air Force after all and air forces are not in the business of providing the latest and greatest from Toulousse and Seattle to their customers) but for the service on board: at a time when all airlines are trying to bring home as much ancillary revenue as possible, LADE still offers half way decent catering and free booze.

Of course, LADE's own raison d'etre is not profits but communications in an area with little in the way of transportation.

Good job with this report!



"Unattended children will be given espresso and a free kitten"
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5120 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 10273 times:



Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
Saab 340, received as a replacement for the F-28s.

WOW! That is a major difference in aircraft when compared. Nothing in my book can replace a good old F-28. Yeah, the 340 is a nice bird, but seriously, that F-28 you flew on looks great! I sure miss seeing Horizon flying them in SEA. I still think they are one sexy looking airplane!

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
I settled myself at the rear of the aircraft, right next to the engine. That, I would regret for the next five hours, for the noise was killing me.

Suck it up! LOL! I would give anything to feel that pain again! You are a lucky guy, and I am sure many others would agree with me. Savor the moment, because the F-28 is becoming a very rare airplane to see anymore.

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
Behind the trip – I write trip report for I have never seen one covering one of Argentina’s best-hidden secrets, namely LADE – Líneas Aéreas del Estado (State-owned Airlines).

I have never heard of them until I read this report. Very interesting looking airline. I really enjoyed your TR! It looks like the Argentine Air Force takes pretty good care of their birds. Did you get a picture of the cockpit by chance?



I Am A Different Animal!!
User currently offlineAirbear From Australia, joined May 2001, 648 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months ago) and read 10187 times:



Quoting Marambio (Reply 5):
I knew somebody would notice the book.

Oh come on now! Noone publishes not 1, but 2 pics of a meal tray with their book strategically & obviously placed, without INTENDING from the get-go to parade their choice of reading material, show off their intellectual rigour & presumably their own political beliefs for the world to see!

Which is a pity, because the TR as such, was a very interesting for the locations and the choice of carrier, and a nice change from the typical run of TRs from flights between more well-travelled parts of the world.

Airbear


User currently offlineTaichen From Spain, joined Jul 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9530 times:

WOW ! I hace always wondered how would it be flying with LADE , if there would be any service,etc. Your report was a fascinating and interesting read !

User currently offlineComeflywithme From Argentina, joined Sep 2006, 265 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9351 times:

Excellent and informative read Marambio.  thumbsup 

Must try and get down there myself - always wanted to visit Tierra del Fuego.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6937 posts, RR: 77
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8850 times:

Great stuff, that's what I call an exotic trip report. There aren't too many F28s left in these days. It was great to get an impresson of LADE, you don't hear much about it. The catering seemed to be fine - the strawberry mousse in particular looked very appetizing.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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