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The Ancient AirTransat A310-300 To Toronto  
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Posted (5 years 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 20891 times:

The ancient AirTransat A310-300 to Toronto


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09004.jpg


Hi, dear readers,

and welcome to some more transatlantic travel.

Three days only after my arrival back home from the UK

1000 Kids And Me To Pleasure Beach: BLK-DUB-FRA (by FLIEGER67 Sep 18 2009 in Trip Reports)

I was ready and prepared to go again.

A trip to Canada was on schedule since a longer time, but no acceptable time/fare/plane compilation found till now.
Finally TS offered a good fare for a short trip without the usual sunday rule and these together with the scheduled A310-300 forced me to book that thing.



Thursday, 06.08.2009
FRA (Frankfurt-Rhein-Main) Sunny, Temperature 29 degrees
YYZ (Toronto-Lester-B.-Pearson-International) Sunny, Temperature 24 degrees
Duration: 8 hours, 15 minutes announced
8 hours, 40 minutes actual

Service TS 181 operated by Air Transat
Scheduled: 14.50 // 17.30 (six hours time difference)
Actual: 14.50 // 17.30
Gate: E 13 Seat: 30A
Load factor: 100%


Well, my first impression about TS was not that really good.
It´s always my interest to collect as much as possible travel around my trips. Also here I´ve secured a run on ViaRail Canada
from Toronto Union station to Kingston, Ontario and back on AirCanada operated by AirGeorgian on the Beech 1900D for Thursday afternoon.
Arrival on TS was scheduled for around noon.
TS changed the departure time from 07.25 am early morning to 2.50 pm in the afternoon. TS run´s also from HAM at that particular day with
a good departure time to reach from STR and also fitting to my later schedule.
The fare was similar to FRA. I´ve tried it three times to change that outbound flight by phone. The answer was always the same, yes, it seems possible, they will check it
and send me a confirmation per mail.
Well, no mail, no change at all!.
Seat pre-selection is pretty expensive at TS and while I want to see open seats the system responds that my booking was not ready for online seat selection.
OK, reasons enough to go pretty early to the airport this time. Parked the car at Tourcare and shuttled to the airport.
I was in FRA Terminal 2 at around 11.00 am and soon thereafter the counter´s opened. I was one of the first pax to check in and secured the window second last row,
important, while the TS A310 has 3-4-3 seating and only the very last rows in 2-3-2 configuration. These seats are sold as extra seats at pre selection.
It was pretty hot outside, no interest for the viewing deck today. Time to go trough security, no problems, and looking for a place to spot the apron and runways from the E gates.
Let me say, not that easy. My gate was the last one at the end of the Terminal 2 building, no views at all, that means walking down the D gates nearly till the end to catch a perfect sunny seat with good views. *bucks, a bread roll and my book helped me to spend the time till boarding.

My place:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09006.jpg

Any time machine´s here?:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09007.jpg

Something familiar:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09001.jpg

Also interesting:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09008.jpg

And once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09010.jpg

UA departure:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09011.jpg

CX heavy:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09014.jpg

Ops showed me C-GTSX, the scheduled A310-300 which I saw later arriving from YYZ.

Ops:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09009.jpg

My machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09002.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09003.jpg

Nice comparison:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09004.jpg

One more taxi pic:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09005.jpg

That was really something special for me, with the last leg on an A310-300 done on Delta JFK-AMS back in 1994.
Leg no. 9 for me on type and the first on that machine.
The plane was delivered at 19.01.1990 to LH, leased out to MEA from Lebanon at 25.04.1993, back to LH at 09.07.1993, leased again to AirMadrid at 15.07.2005 and in service with TS since 27.01.2007.
I´am impressed, TS operates a 14 examples strong A310-300 fleet. .

Ready to board:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09012.jpg

Once again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09013.jpg

Ground handling:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09015.jpg

Boarding by a finger gate started pretty early, I´ve counted four female and three male FA´s on that machine, superb friendly staff there at TS, especially a young male serving my area, real nice and always joking around when he passed my seat.
The cabin seems not changed since LH times, fitted with wide and comfortable, oldfashioned dark blue leather seats, good legroom and clean.

Cabin:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09025.jpg

My seat:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09032.jpg

Window picture:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09016.jpg

Taxi:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09017.jpg

Also oldfashioned center cabin monitors and the lavs with the ancient blue water stuff.
Cockpit crew was from Canada, I saw the guys later at YYZ, a pretty young crew.
The captain with a friendly welcome during boarding. Departure from the 4000 meters runway 07L in direction CGN-DUS-AMS-Scotland-Northern Ireland-the southern tip of Greenland-west of Labrador city.

And departed:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09018.jpg

Once again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09019.jpg

Leaving the Netherlands:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09020.jpg

Once again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09021.jpg

Above Scotland:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09022.jpg

And again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09023.jpg

Reaching Greenland:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09026.jpg

Never been so close here:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09027.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09028.jpg

Looks not that cold:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09029.jpg

Hey, that´s not allowed:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09030.jpg

Taking over:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09031.jpg

Canada:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09034.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09035.jpg

Flightlevel 34000 feet. The map system only on the screens for a short time after departure and for several short times during the flight between movies and advertissements. I prefer it anytime in comparison to that other stuff.
Service was free drinks followed by a hot meal and a pizza snack prior to arrivals.
Water and beverages, coffee, tea, two times more during the flight.
Pretzels, peanuts and more drinks always available in the galley.

Main meal:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09024.jpg

Pre-arrival snack:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09033.jpg

The captain was once more on the speakers prior to approach.

Approach:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09036.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09037.jpg

Once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09038.jpg

Downtown in the back:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09039.jpg

Touchdown on the 3389 meters runway 23 well ontime and taxi to a finger gate at Terminal 3.

Taxi:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09040.jpg

Again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09041.jpg

Company machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09042.jpg

Surprise, AY B757:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09043.jpg

Docked:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09044.jpg

Deboarding and down the stairs to immigration, not more than 2 or three minutes to wait till a female officer accepted my form and stamped my passport.
Some minutes more for the bag and out in the public, yeah, welcome to my first time in Canada.
According to the hotels website there is a free shuttle service on offer, so I´ve joined the waiting people and saw shuttles from several hotels coming and going, not mine yet.
After 30 minutes I´ve done a call but as usual in such situations the number has changed and when I´ve secured the new number the shuttle runs around the corner.
The friendly girl at the hotel desk told me later that the shuttle operates not scheduled, I need to call for it.
Ok, arrived at the hotel, the Sandman Signature Toronto Airport, no time to wait during check in. The superb friendly girl offered me immediatelly after my request a room
at the top floor, storey 15, with a perfect nice view to runway 24 approaches. And much to my surprise, she offered me also two free breakfast vouchers.
Guys, sitting on the chair in bright sunshine and following the planes coming in, one after the other, well, that´s my place.

The hotel:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09050.jpg

My room:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CDN0901/YYZ09049.jpg

Ok, so far for the first day in Canada, a new airline and a new airport together with a rare plane type.
Absolutely nice.
TS, not expected that much, but a good experience here.

The next day coming up with four more flights on three different airlines and also plane types, online in a couple of days.

Comments welcome,
Markus (FLIEGER67)


Next: London City connections!.
30 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineHAM From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 287 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 20731 times:

nice TR! 3-4-3 on an A310 sounds cramped to me. Isn't 2-4-2 normal on today's A330s and 340s?
By the way, scrolling down that hotel picture gives an awkward optical effect  Wink


User currently offlineReifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 20559 times:

Thanks for your nice report. My mom flew from LYS to YUL on a TS 310 just a few days ago and I'm sure she does not realize the luck she had to fly it.

I was lucky once in 2003 or something. I was to fly from Stuttgart to a AIDA cruise with a Aero Lloyd charter. However they were bankrupt just a few days prior to our flight and AIDA needed to secure new airlines to bring their pax to Dubrovnik.

We ended on a Hapag Fly all white A310 from STR to DBV and I really enjoyed it. Since we should have been on a smaller Airbus with Aero Lloyd the A310 was only half full. I don't remember it having a 3-3-3 configuration though. Is that the regular config for this plane?


User currently offlineSafeFlyer From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 627 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 20311 times:

Nice report, glad to see TS switched back to a tray hot meal service. The President's choice stuff they were serving last summer on transatlantic runs was just awful.

Some things however caught my attention in your report though:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
TS changed the departure time from 07.25 am early morning to 2.50 pm in the afternoon. TS run´s also from HAM at that particular day with

So frequent with them, which is why I stopped using them on transatlantic runs... but when you want a cheap price, you have to deal with those little things I suppose.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The fare was similar to FRA. I´ve tried it three times to change that outbound flight by phone. The answer was always the same, yes, it seems possible, they will check it
and send me a confirmation per mail.
Well, no mail, no change at all!.

Again, I have experienced the same and am not surprised at all. Their Customer service is pretty awful.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
important, while the TS A310 has 3-4-3 seating and only the very last rows in 2-3-2 configuration. These seats are sold as extra seats at pre selection.

3-3-3 config. You couldn't fit 3-4-3 in an A310 even if you wanted to.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The cabin seems not changed since LH times, fitted with wide and comfortable, oldfashioned dark blue leather seats, good legroom and clean.

They have had a major clean-up since their LH times. LH had grey letter seats. TS re-configures all of their plane prior to putting them in service. The TV monitors, as you might have noticed, are also LCD monitors which certainly wasn't there in the LH times.

'Safe


User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 20256 times:

Very nice report! I always thought TS was the lowest of the low and the seating would be very uncomfortable but now that is changed! How did you like Air Georgian? I work for the company (operations dept). The main course with the rice looks exactly like a frozen microwave meal I've had before.


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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6672 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 19787 times:

Very nice report! Glad to hear that TS wasn't too bad considering they seat 3-4-3 in economy.

Looking forward to hear more about the rest of your trip.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 19735 times:



Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 3):
3-3-3 config. You couldn't fit 3-4-3 in an A310 even if you wanted to.

It is 3-4-3, the worst flight I have ever taken - I only did it to get on an A310 too... certainly great crew on TS however.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
the hotel, the Sandman Signature

Nice choice!! Never stayed in the YYZ one, do they have a Chop restaurant attached?? Awesome food...



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User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 19687 times:



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 6):
Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 3):
3-3-3 config. You couldn't fit 3-4-3 in an A310 even if you wanted to.

It is 3-4-3, the worst flight I have ever taken - I only did it to get on an A310 too... certainly great crew on TS however.

It's definitely 3-3-3 config in economy, see the seat map via this link:

http://www.airtransat.at/de/A_310_300.asp

I flew once on an Air Transat A-310 and that was in Club Class, definitely good value in my opinion.


User currently offlineAlexEU From Nauru, joined Oct 2007, 1824 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 19665 times:

Hi, nice report!!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Ops showed me C-GTSX, the scheduled A310-300 which I saw later arriving from YYZ.

Where did you get that? Is it at the airport or particular website for showing aircraft regs and ops?


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 19481 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 8):
Where did you get that? Is it at the airport or particular website for showing aircraft regs and ops?

FRA has these small information terminals scattered all around the place - they can be used to check departure and arrival gates etc. They also have an "OPS" button that takes you into that kind of display that was pictured that lists all the incoming and outgoing flights, gate/apron positions, registration, estimated time of arrival/departure etc. etc. Great stuff for the aviation geeks. I wish more airports would have something like this.

I think the ZRH airport website lists registrations as well, another great innovation.


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 19455 times:

Hallo Markus,

That's a much more interesting report than the last one - a great route and a very nice special not to mention rare aircraft.

That TS customer service just sounds very bad, sorry that you missed the side trip to Kingston. Hopefully you had some travel insurance that could cover the cost of the missed flight.

Definitely looks like a hot day in Frankfurt with all that heat haze in your pictures.

Toronto is one of my favorite cities in the world. Flew there in 2005 from FRA as well, but on a much more boring LH 744.

How much was the fare on TS?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Surprise, AY B757:

Yeah, AY has been running their "leisure flights" (sort of a mix between a charter and scheduled flight I guess a bit like what Condor etc. do) to BOS and YYZ during the summer season for a number of years now. That must be one of the most uncomfortable ways to cross the Atlantic - these 757s are packed with 227 seats in a one-class, sardine can configuration.


User currently offlineBuck3y3nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 881 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 18915 times:

Hey Markus,
Great report on a new airline for me. Really enjoyed the report and looking forward to your next installment. Kingston, ON is a great place. you'll enjoy it. If weather permits, take a small cruise that will take you around "1000 islands". I believe it lasts a couple of hours. Could be wrong as I did it I think 3-4 years ago. But it's a nice place nonetheless...
Enjoy Toronto, it's a great city  Smile


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27308 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 18831 times:

Hey Markus great to see a Air Transat report. I have a good impression of them since I flew with them on an L10-11 some years ago YYZ-PUJ. Crews were great. Glad to hear they still are.

I have actually had a conversation with a few of them whilst at the airport once. I was sitting next to them, they were also a friendly and chatty bunch.

I would not hestitate to fly with them but I would pay a bit more for the Club service.

Thanks for the great report.

Philip


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6939 posts, RR: 77
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 18668 times:

Servus Markus,

good to see the TS report, I was looking forward to that. The customer service seems to be very bad and, to be honest, I'm not too keen on flying on an A310 with 3-3-3 seating. I'm glad I took the chance to fly on OK's A310 on the transatlantic route.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The ancient AirTransat A310-300 to Toronto

Ancient? The plane is not even 20 years old, still quite young.  Wink

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´am impressed, TS operates a 14 examples strong A310-300 fleet. .

TS is now the largest operator of pax A310s, followed by PIA (12)

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The cabin seems not changed since LH times, fitted with wide and comfortable, oldfashioned dark blue leather seats, good legroom and clean.

The seats don't look oldfashioned - and they are not ex-LH. Good legrom in such a high-density configuration?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Hey, that´s not allowed:

Try to tell that to an MD-11 captain...  Wink

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Service was free drinks followed by a hot meal and a pizza snack prior to arrivals.
Water and beverages, coffee, tea, two times more during the flight.
Pretzels, peanuts and more drinks always available in the galley.

The meals don't look very attractive, but at least meals and drinks are available free of charge.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineGlobetraveller From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 379 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 18400 times:

A very interesting trip report with some amazing pictures of Greenland Markus!

These A310-300s sure are rare aircraft these days, so I envy you for being able to take this trip!

Thank you for all your efforts!

Globetraveller


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 18234 times:

Hello, good to follow such a number of comments.

@HAM:

Quoting HAM" class=quote target=_blank>HAM (Reply 1):
nice TR! 3-4-3 on an A310 sounds cramped to me. Isn't 2-4-2 normal on today's A330s and 340s?

Thank you. 2/4/2 sounds definitely better.

@Reifel:

Quoting Reifel (Reply 2):
Thanks for your nice report. My mom flew from LYS to YUL on a TS 310 just a few days ago and I'm sure she does not realize the luck she had to fly it.

Thank you and also most of the travellers on my flight dont noticed it!.

Quoting Reifel (Reply 2):
We ended on a Hapag Fly all white A310 from STR to DBV and I really enjoyed it. Since we should have been on a smaller Airbus with Aero Lloyd the A310 was only half full. I don't remember it having a 3-3-3 configuration though. Is that the regular config for this plane?

Done the Hapag A312 also three times but dont remember if its 3 or 4 middle seats.

@SafeFlyer:

Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 3):
Nice report, glad to see TS witched back to a tray hot meal service.

Thank you.

Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 3):
So frequent with them, which is why I stopped using them on transatlantic runs... but when you want a cheap price, you have to deal with those little things I suppose.

So it seems, fare was more than 300.-- Euros lower than the next best offer on AC or else.

Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 3):
Again, I have experienced the same and am not surprised at all. Their Customer service is pretty awful.

One time they told me that they working the schedule changes day by day and there are a lot of days closer to mine!

Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 3):
3-3-3 config. You couldn't fit 3-4-3 in an A310 even if you wanted to.

Not sure here, also with the later comments if there was 3/3/3 or anything else.

Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 3):
They have had a major clean-up since their LH times. LH had grey letter seats. TS re-configures all of their plane prior to putting them in service. The TV monitors, as you might have noticed, are also LCD monitors which certainly wasn't there in the LH times.

Good to know.

@JAGflyer:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 4):
Very nice report!



Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 4):
How did you like Air Georgian?

Thank you. I saw the B1900´s several times and love to do that birds, but with the change and the next flights fixed it was no chance to fit Georgian in again, finally cancelled.



@Lars:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Very nice report! Glad to hear that TS wasn't too bad considering they seat 3-4-3 in economy.

Looking forward to hear more about the rest of your trip.

Thank you, more coming up soon.

@Vernon:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 6):
It is 3-4-3, the worst flight I have ever taken - I only did it to get on an A310 too... certainly great crew on TS however.

Interesting to know and the crew was really nice.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 6):
Nice choice!! Never stayed in the YYZ one, do they have a Chop restaurant attached?? Awesome food...

They have, looks nice and was nice!.

@Levent:

Quoting Levent (Reply 7):
I flew once on an Air Transat A-310 and that was in Club Class, definitely good value in my opinion.

Thanks for the link. Walking by the club class seats, looking also oldfashioned, but comfortable.

@Alex:

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 8):
Hi, nice report!!



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 8):
Where did you get that? Is it at the airport or particular website for showing aircraft regs and ops?



Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
FRA has these small information terminals scattered all around the place - they can be used to check departure and arrival gates etc. They also have an "OPS" button that takes you into that kind of display that was pictured that lists all the incoming and outgoing flights, gate/apron positions, registration, estimated time of arrival/departure etc. etc. Great stuff for the aviation geeks. I wish more airports would have something like this.

I think the ZRH airport website lists registrations as well, another great innovation.

Thanx Alex and also P. for the informations.
The OPS button is in the lower left corner of the screen, not good to notice, but really good when you know it.

@P.:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
That's a much more interesting report than the last one - a great route and a very nice special not to mention rare aircraft.

Thank you.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
That TS customer service just sounds very bad, sorry that you missed the side trip to Kingston. Hopefully you had some travel insurance that could cover the cost of the missed flight.

Sure, it looks like travel insurance is well covered here. But only for the big issues.
Fully repayed by ViaRail and with that low fare for the Georgian flight, under the
insurance level.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
Definitely looks like a hot day in Frankfurt with all that heat haze in your pictures.

So it was, typical german hot and humid.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
How much was the fare on TS?

Not more than 500.-- Euros, real good in comparison to the other offers during peak season.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
Yeah, AY has been running their "leisure flights" (sort of a mix between a charter and scheduled flight I guess a bit like what Condor etc. do) to BOS and YYZ during the summer season for a number of years now. That must be one of the most uncomfortable ways to cross the Atlantic - these 757s are packed with 227 seats in a one-class, sardine can configuration.

I remember you´re statement about that AY 757.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 18183 times:

So, ready for the next comments.

@Buck3y3nut:

Quoting Buck3y3nut (Reply 11):
Great report on a new airline for me. Really enjoyed the report and looking forward to your next installment.



Quoting Buck3y3nut (Reply 11):
Enjoy Toronto, it's a great city

Thank you. More coming up soon.
Toronto is indeed a great city and thanx for the idea around Kingston.

@Phil:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
Hey Markus great to see a Air Transat report. I have a good impression of them since I flew with them on an L10-11 some years ago YYZ-PUJ. Crews were great. Glad to hear they still are.



Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
Thanks for the great report.

Thank you and really miss those days with the TriStar.
Same here with the crew, had also a nice chat during the way back, real friendly.

@PH:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):
good to see the TS report, I was looking forward to that. The customer service seems to be very bad and, to be honest, I'm not too keen on flying on an A310 with 3-3-3 seating. I'm glad I took the chance to fly on OK's A310 on the transatlantic route.

Thank you and I remember you´re OK story.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):
Ancient? The plane is not even 20 years old, still quite young.

Well, for me, 15 years since the last ride!.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):
TS is now the largest operator of pax A310s, followed by PIA (12)

Good to know.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):
Good legrom in such a high-density configuration?

At least in the last three 2 seater rows.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):
The meals don't look very attractive, but at least meals and drinks are available free of charge.

Remember me, always special in terms of eating in planes.
Finally I´ve done the muffins, bread roll and the pretzel´s  Wink

@GT:

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 14):
A very interesting trip report with some amazing pictures of Greenland Markus!

These A310-300s sure are rare aircraft these days, so I envy you for being able to take this trip!

Thank you for all your efforts!

Thanx also for you´re nice feedback.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 17764 times:

Markus,
very nice report on the A310. Good to hear that at least you were able to get a good fare on such route. From AMS, TS operates quite a lot this summer on A330s and A310s. Sometimes 3 flights a day. But fares were usually high!
They are now the only cheaper Canada carrier, since both Canada3000 (gone now) and AC are not flying to AMS anymore. There was more competition in the past.
Food looks good for Y class on a Atlantic flight. Similar to what you get on BA or AA.

Regards,
Eric



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User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 17323 times:

Hola Markus!

Hey man YYZ is not in Europe!!! I was quite surprised to see you flying accross the Atlantic. Loved to read the report on TS, I was quite interested what they were like. Last year they started flying to BCN from YYZ, this year they have introduced YUL and YVR. No wonder next year AC will be starting to fly from YYZ and YUL to BCN as there are no other carriers covering this market.

I see that seat, food, entertainment are quite similar to a legacy carrier... so I may give them a try on my yearly visit to YYC.

Salut!

Roger



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8589 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 17304 times:
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Hey Markus,

Great report and pictures as usual!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
the scheduled A310-300 forced me to book

- Love that!

You know I've been toying with the idea of flying TS from LHR just to get another A310 flight or 2 in the log, might have to re-visit this idea next year.

Best Wishes

Mark



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User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 17201 times:

Very nice TR. The pictures over Greenland are great!

I've flown TS many times and have flown the A-310 quite a few times and i wish they would switch to a 330 for my trip next month YYZ-FRA. I'm getting a wee be tired of the 310. As for the service, i 've never had a problem with them and the dep and arr times were acceptable if changed. For the price (my flight $199+$329 tax) for a return trans Atlantic flight, i'll be more than happy to pay $20/seat for the seat selection option. I've nothing critical to say about TS. Lets hope it stays that way after my trip next month.  Wink



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 16508 times:

Hey, back from BUD and time to follow you´re comments now.

@Eric:

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 17):
very nice report on the A310. Good to hear that at least you were able to get a good fare on such route.

Thank you and for sure the best offer during my search, together with that special aircraft.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 17):
Food looks good for Y class on a Atlantic flight. Similar to what you get on BA or AA.

Or US!.

@Roger:

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 18):
Hey man YYZ is not in Europe!!! I was quite surprised to see you flying accross the Atlantic. Loved to read the report on TS, I was quite interested what they were like.

Sometimes I need to go for the view around Europe.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 18):
see that seat, food, entertainment are quite similar to a legacy carrier... so I may give them a try on my yearly visit to YYC.

Love to follow a report about that!.

@Mark:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 19):
Great report and pictures as usual!

Thank you.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 19):
- Love that!

You know I've been toying with the idea of flying TS from LHR just to get another A310 flight or 2 in the log, might have to re-visit this idea next year.

You know, always that overwhelming arguments!.

Andreas:

Quoting YooYoo (Reply 20):
Very nice TR. The pictures over Greenland are great!

Thank you.

Quoting YooYoo (Reply 20):
For the price (my flight $199+$329 tax) for a return trans Atlantic flight, i'll be more than happy to pay $20/seat for the seat selection option. I've nothing critical to say about TS. Lets hope it stays that way after my trip next month.

Hey, good deal, wish you a nice trip.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2500 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 15939 times:

Hi Markus,

Great report with TS. I am eyeing this airline to fly to Canada and I think I will give them a try.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 15824 times:

Hey, Suryo

and thanx again for that comment.

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 22):
Great report with TS. I am eyeing this airline to fly to Canada and I think I will give them a try.

Good to know.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineInfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1466 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 15035 times:

Hi Markus,

I'm gradually catching up on your reports! Great reading as always.

The A310 looks pretty smart inside for an older aircraft, love the dark leather seats. It seems a very acceptable option when choosing to fly to Canada. And your shots of Greenland are just breathtaking. There's another place not covered in your log  Wink

As for Toronto, it was nice to see your shots coming into land. It might be 15 years since I was there, but I remember the approach as clearly as anything. What fascinated me as a teenager was how many houses had their own swimming pool, it seems to be very much the norm.

Pity about the schedule change, this kind of thing seems to be more and more common these days.

Happy flying
Infodesk



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25 FLIEGER67 : Hello, Hannah, Thank you. Well, sounds like a good idea. Good to know that you´ve been there also. True words. Best wishes, Markus (FLIEGER67)
26 BZNPilot : Hi Markus, Another great report, thanks for posting it. Nice to see a quality report about the A310; such a rare type these days. The Greenland pics w
27 YooYoo : Thank you....7 more days!! Your welcome When did they switch to leather seats? Last time i flew on a TS 310 was 2.5 years ago. Did they switch the en
28 FLIEGER67 : Hey, good to follow more comments. @John: Let me say, thank you for reading and comment. I´am looking also for more from you´re point of view. @Andr
29 Contact Air : Hi Markus, nice to read another Trans-Atlantic-report from your side. I liked your pictures as well, especially the ones of Greenland and of the appro
30 FLIEGER67 : Hi, Christoph, Thanx again. Every time at FRA my first step. Absolutely. Regards, Markus (FLIEGER67)
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