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Inaugural Day Of Service: BA Embraer 170 LCY-AMS  
User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20806 times:

Dear all,



Inaugural Day Service: BA Embraer 170 LCY-AMS

A few months ago, British Airways announced the schedule for their new aircraft type from Brazil; the Embraer 170. This type is a new addition to the fleet, and operated by CityFlyer.
First day of operation was said to be 28SEP’09, and on the EDI-LCY-AMS visa versa rotation.
Since the Embraer 170 was a missing type in my log so far, and it would be nice to be on the first BA service with this type to AMS, as well (I think) the first flight leaving LCY with this aircraft type and commercial passengers on board. So I booked myself on a quick return for the Monday, and guaranteed myself the ride.

The outbound flight in the morning was scheduled by the dated RJ-100. Not really my choice of aircraft anymore. But I could not resist, since BA offered the best fare on this time of the day.

Check-in was done from 24 hours before on the website, and I decided to print my boarding passes at the airport. Although, the Embraer check-in was malfunctioning on the website. For some reason it said that I was checked in, but I was not able to change seat or print the boarding pass etc. Maybe the BA systems were not working well yet and couldn’t deal with this type of aircraft…

Anyway, my bus left at 05.26am from near my house, arrived at the airport short before 6.00 am. Departures 3 is were you will find BA’s counters and check-in, so I helped myself by printing the boarding pass from the self service machines.
Also here you go through passport control (only, no security, since the UK is not part of ‘Schengen’), and I found a crowded departure lobby full of arriving passengers from various longhaul flights.
I walked towards the D-gates from were BA is leaving. For those who are not familiar in AMS, here are some pictures:


Amsterdam Airport Schiphol, departure lounge 3



Small ‘Rijksmuseum’ (free entrance) is located in departure lounge 3 (between E/F gates)



D-gates, sometimes meaning a long walk!



G-BXAS resting the night at gate D29, before my flight to LCY


Boarding was from the most far away gate on the D-concourse; D29. I found my RJ-100 still sleeping in the nightstop, and it was one of the older examples from the fleet. And also a new registration for my logbook.
Security was easy going here, no hassle, no trouble. Time to wait a bit in the seating area. Meanwhile, a delay message came on the speaker, one crewmember was arriving late, so they set a delay of 15 minutes. This crew probably overslept her/himself? In the end it turned out that the delay was just kept at a minimum, so no big deal.

Boarding started from 07.10am.

AMS-LCY
Flight No.: BA8450 Date: 28SEP09
STD: 0720 ATD: 0727
STA: 0735 ATA: 0726
A/C: Bae Avro RJ-100 Reg No.: G-BXAS
Seat: 04F – Economy Class

Boarding went quick and with a few minutes delay we got pushback and taxiing to runway 18L for takeoff. We used E5 intersection for departure. (runway 24 is used less frequent now for departures, due to noise regulations, exceeding limits at this moment).
With a good load of 5 in business and 67 in economy class, we got airborne in no time.


The Cityjet RJ-85 will also fly to LCY not long after our departure



Airborne from runway 18L, cargo apron South is visible here


I must say, BA disappointed me a bit, since the seatpitch is really small on the RJ-100, of course the wall of the RJ-100 makes it feel even smaller. A sticky chewing gum was on my windowside (yes, it’s not only Ryanair were it happens, but is this the British public?!). Although I was happy with my seat, 04D and F were the only ones available, since it was the first row behind the business class curtain seperation. The seats were moved into eachother a bit, so ‘E’ was half sized and not used.

Not long after takeoff, the service started. A “Smoked Salmon & Soft Cheese on an oat topped square roll” was given to me, together with orange juice and coffee. The bread was a bit dry, but the cheese made it eatable for breakfast.


Breakfast for economy class on the AMS-LCY flight



Final approach for runway 29


For the rest no specials on this flight. Even the approach into City Airport was boring. Mostly grey weather outside, and we used runway 27, so, not overflying the city. After landing we used only 2 minutes for taxiing. Arrival gate was number 5, and it took about 10 minutes to clear immigration. With 5 counters open, still a long queue at this little airport.


Bye bye for G-BXAS. Next flight is on your successor!


Once in the public hall/check-in area of the airport, I proceeded to the counter of BA to get my seat changed to more in the back. This was done by friendly staff. I was able to choose the seat myself from the map. Also, flyers introducing the Embraer 170, as well a lot of balloons, were promoting this new aircraft.


Balloons at the check-in area for BA, to celebrate the Embrear 170 arrival



… more balloons at self service check-in


A few hours to kill now with spotting, but the grey overcast weather in the morning did not result in good quality pictures. So after a few hours I went back to the terminal. And it was my stupid mistake, since at that time the Embraer 170 came in from EDI (the first revenue flight actually), and got a water salute by the fire brigade. I saw it from a distance, but missed it for the camera.

(For those interested, also BA’s second frame is at LCY, registered G-LCYE. It was not in service yet.)

I took a seat in front of the windows (good for spotting) and read a bit, did some internet on my PDA (LCY offers free WiFi), bought some new earl grey tea (my previous box was almost gone, and we really wanted a new box; Mark, it was a good choice by you!), and I made some pictures.

Most traffic seen at LCY were a mix of BA RJ85/100’s, CityJet RJ85’s, VLM/Cityjet F50’s, Swiss RJ100’s and also a Luxair Embraer 135.


Departure lounge at City Airport



Departure lounge at City Airport



Departure lounge at City Airport



My aircraft waiting for the flight to Amsterdam (to be 2nd commercial flight of this machine)



G-LCYD seen from inside the terminal


Finally, boarding of my flight was at 1245pm, gate 21. This is one of the newer gates at LCY, but I don’t like the seating in the gate area. A glimpse on the computer screen showed me the load on this flight: 10 in Business, 30 in Economy. Just about half full, since this new aircraft offers capacity of 76 passengers (Business Class/Economy Class is separated by a curtain which is set on demand).
I asked if I was ok in making some pictures of the new aircraft, and it was gladly accepted.
Since boarding was via the stairs, an announcement said that rows 1 to 9 board via the front entrance, rows 10 until 19 via the rear entrance. During boarding, classical music played through the cabin.


Boarding at gate 21



Strange seating at gate 21… who decided this?!


LCY-AMS
Flight No.: BA8453 Date: 28SEP09
STD: 1300 ATD: 1300
STA: 1510 ATA: 1503
A/C: Embraer EMB-170 Reg No.: G-LCYD
Seat: 18A – Economy Class


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My first time on this type of aircraft and this frame (of course).


Boarding G-LCYD… the new Embraer 170



Boarding G-LCYD… the new Embraer 170


I had 2 seats for myself now. Windows are a bit high, and strangely positioned compared to the location of the seats, but it seems that all rows have at least a window. The windows are large too.
Seats are blue leather. A tray table is in front, not adjustable. Also the headrest of the seat can not be adjusted. The armrest is available to move up/down. Additionally a hook to put your jacket on, is located on the seats in front. In the overhead, a reading LED light and a personal blower. All seating is 2-2 configuration, wide seats compared to the RJ100, and legroom is fine. Seating is numbered A-B / C-D. So, A and D are window seats. Total 19 rows in this aircraft.
One lavatory in the front, one in the back. They fly with 2 cabin crew, and 2 cockpit crew, my flight was completely served by male crewmembers. The purser had an Indian accent when he made announcements.


Pair of seats on the new Embraer jet



A place to hang the jacket is also arranged


Before startup the captain welcomed us aboard. It was a special day he said, being among the first to fly this new type of aircraft, which was better for our environment and more quiet. He pointed out that especially now, even frequent flyers had to pay good attention to the safety demo, since this aircraft was completely different from others.
After this announcement, the safety demo was given manually, the text is played from an audio tape.

Block-out was exactly on schedule, only a few minutes taxiing to the active runway 27. We took off after a Swiss RJ100 landed from GVA. The distance to get airborne was rather short, so it seems no problems at all to operate such aircraft type out of LCY.


Holding short, for arriving traffic on runway 29



Lining up runway 29; Canary Wharf and O2 Arena visible in a distance



Off we go!


During the climb a few bumps and shakers while penetrating the clouds, but once out of it, a smooth ride all the way to Amsterdam. Cruising altitude was 23,000 feet, as per info from the flightdeck. Just also a small update about the weather in Amsterdam, which was similar to that in London actually.

Service was given by 1 of the crewmembers (the other served the Business Class). 2 drinks offered (I got a coffee and cranberry juice) and a snackbite (pretzels, a cookie etc). It was just fine for this afternoon flight.


In the seat pocket you’ll find …



… and when you look up you’ll find your reading light and blower



Cabin View (inflight)



The aft lavatory



Mealservice (snack) on LCY-AMS


They were able to finish the service just in time, since we already approached closer to Amsterdam. Everything was cleaned up carefully and the cabin checked again. Meanwhile I noticed that our landing runway would be 18R, so meaning about 20 minutes taxi time.


Descending into Amsterdam Schiphol Airport (for runway 18R)



and further on approach… overflying ‘Noordzee-kanaal’



Final approach…


The actual landing was a bumpy one, I guess we touched the ground twice.
We vacated the runway via V3, taxied via taxiway V, W5 and C , A , Q , B taxiways to our stand, D2, in front of the observation deck.
To my surprise no water salute, no real specials. I said goodbye to the crew, they offered me to take a picture in the cockpit, which I accepted of course.


On taxiway B, turning in towards our gate



The flightdeck on G-LCYD. Thanks to the crew!


Meanwhile, the cabin was full of BA/Amsterdam and Servisair groundstaff, taking a look in the new aircraft. It seemed that they were more important then the passengers today (at least, for the groundstaff in AMS).
I greeted the crew and went home… a mission completed successfully. Arriving home without a goodie-bag (it’s not EK or SQ, when introducing something new), but with a good feeling about my flights.

On my next visit to London, I take this aircraft again. Service is a bit better then on Cityjet (incl VLM/KLM) and this aircraft type is much more comfortable. All the way BA!

Thanks for reading and your comments. I always appreciate it!

Regards,
Eric

[Edited 2009-09-28 09:58:02]


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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20784 times:
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Nice pictures and report. Did you by any chance take pictures of C class?


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User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2438 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20763 times:

Hi Eric,

What a lucky guy you were. I can not help saying it to my fellow A.netters who have been on Embraer jets.

Nice pictures you have got here. I especially like your pics of Lounge 3 in AMS and the waiting room in LCY. The couches are just appealing!

Thanks for sharing it with us.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20769 times:

Hi Sobhi51 and thanks for reading!

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 1):
Did you by any chance take pictures of C class?

No, since C-class is exactly identical to Y-class (seat and pitch are the same). Just the service (meal) is different plus some privileges. But it's just a curtain that seperates the 2 'cabins'.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26844 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20750 times:

Hey Eric ,
So the day finally came !! Love the photos and it looks really smart. I hope to get on one sometime in future. The bathroom looks really big for a small jet.

I had been looking forward to this report.

Thanks again

Philip


User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20593 times:

Hey, great report and pics. Thanks for posting this so quickly! I expect there was lots of interest from the Dutch spotters when it arrived in AMS for the first time?

Great to know where our aircraft went after I flew on it this morning from LCY - EDI on its first maiden passenger carrying flight.

We were all given champagne and orange juice at the gate, along with a croissant and when we boarded, BA had left a little envelope with an Embraer Tie Pin and a BA branded/EM170 plastic luggage name card. Nice touch.

Our flight time this morning on BA8700 was just over an hour and 10 mins.

Love the new EM170s and we were parked right next to G-LCYE when we left LCY this morning.

I took lots of pics and will also do a trip report.

Thanks again
PJet



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User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1197 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20586 times:

Hola Eric!

Thanks for this première.

It looks really neat, I look forward to flying one of these E-jets with UX who have recently introduced them into service as well. I still have to figure out which routes they fly, MAD-LIS for sure but I need them out of BCN.... so let's wait.

Those Embraers have a very cosy feeling, and I think the seats used just fit perfectly on BA

Salut!

Roger



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5131 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20531 times:

Hoi, Eric,

good to follow you´re expected real interesting story.
A first is always something special!.

Also nice pics with that dull weather, well done.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1012 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20511 times:

Always great to see a trip report containing an inaugural flight. Well done, you got some amazing pictures there.


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User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1594 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20503 times:

Great report, that is called being on the ball and getting the story ahead of the rest!

Have you flown on the F70/100, as a Dutch man perhaps thats a silly question but how do they compare?


User currently offlineReifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20449 times:

Very nice report for this inaugural flight! I love this little jet since I had the opportunity to fly it a few years ago with LOT from Warsaw to Gdansk. Thanks for sharing.

User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20438 times:

Hi guys, thanks for the comments!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
The bathroom looks really big for a small jet.

Haven't tried it myself today, but it's standard size I think, compared to A320/B737 aircraft or similar.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 5):
I expect there was lots of interest from the Dutch spotters when it arrived in AMS for the first time?

I didn't see too much spotters near the arrival runway. I think not many pictured it today. Anyway, it will fly daily now, so enough chances will come...

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 5):
Great to know where our aircraft went after I flew on it this morning from LCY - EDI on its first maiden passenger carrying flight.

That's interesting. I thought the maiden flight was EDI-LCY (originating from EDI). Maybe they changed the plan a bit. Good to hear you've taken that flight.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 5):
We were all given champagne and orange juice at the gate, along with a croissant and when we boarded, BA had left a little envelope with an Embraer Tie Pin and a BA branded/EM170 plastic luggage name card. Nice touch.

I was wondering if we would get something, but this flight was operated as a normal flight. Only groundstaff/cabin crew was a bit excited about it.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 5):
Love the new EM170s and we were parked right next to G-LCYE when we left LCY this morning.

Has LCYE been delivered yesterday then? It was towed from the gate area to the general aviation corner during the early morning (around 9.00am or so). Actually I was surprised to see it already... and eventually thought it would operate on my flight  Silly

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 5):
I took lots of pics and will also do a trip report.

OK, I'll stay tuned. Would be a great report me thinks!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 6):
I look forward to flying one of these E-jets with UX who have recently introduced them into service as well. I still have to figure out which routes they fly, MAD-LIS for sure but I need them out of BCN.... so let's wait.

I saw 2 UX Emb195's last Saturday. On Friday I didn't see any. How about ORY-BCN? ORY shows also pictures of these E-jets.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
A first is always something special!.

Also nice pics with that dull weather, well done.

Hi Markus, thanks. The weather was not really nice indeed. The expected sun didn't come. But it was only for a couple of hours, so I didn't bother too much.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 8):
Always great to see a trip report containing an inaugural flight.

Thanks for the comments. Actually not the inaugural flight, but inaugural day of operation. But a first visit of this type for AMS, and a first time to cross the Northsea for this BA Embraer  Wink

Quoting Shamrock321 (Reply 9):
Have you flown on the F70/100, as a Dutch man perhaps thats a silly question but how do they compare?

I must say, both are great aircraft. Between F70 and F100, I would choose the F100, seatpitch is generally very good, and better then the Emb170. Also, noise is less in the forward rows on the Fokkers, compared to row 18 on this Embraer. But this is the replacement for the ageing RJ85/100 fleet, and BA made a good choice!

Regards,
Eric



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User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2844 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 20329 times:

Wow! LCY sure looks like a very nice little airport.


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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 20029 times:

Hi Eric!

A very nice and interesting report, skipping the homeworks for this was quite worth it  Wink

The service provided on the first leg looked rather generous, though salmon and cream cheese doesn't seem like the best breakfast combination, though in Scandinavia it is, not sure about how the rest of the worls thinks...

The service provided on the return flight didn't look nice at all, IMHO CityJet seem to offer a higher level of service.

The new E170 sure looked nice. Seats looked nice and comfy, and the lav looked surprisingly big for being on an RJ. Was as big as it looked?  Smile

The pics were great, in fact better than usual, did you use your new camera for this report?

Thanks for sharing!

//Jonas



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User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1776 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 19901 times:

Great trip report with some fantastic pics. I cant wait to get on one of these beauties.

On a sidenote, who needs concorde when you can arrive before you depart on an RJ100  Silly

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
AMS-LCY
Flight No.: BA8450 Date: 28SEP09
STD: 0720 ATD: 0727
STA: 0735 ATA: 0726
A/C: Bae Avro RJ-100 Reg No.: G-BXAS
Seat: 04F – Economy Class




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User currently offlineSebjacques92 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 19872 times:

Brilliant Trip Report and wow you managed to get it online quickly!!

I need to get myself down to LCY considering the new arrivals of the E170 and A318. The cabin on the E170 looks very nice and modern. I was also wondering about the performance of the aircraft considering the short runway at LCY but it would appear it had no problem getting off the ground with plently of runway to spare. I can only imagine how exciting the landing must be!!


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8484 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 19811 times:
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Hi Eric,

Congrats for getting on it as planned, would have joined but a no go as disucssed  Sad

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
For those interested, also BA’s second frame is at LCY, registered G-LCYE

- I saw LCYD & the 1st 318, EUNA, when I flew into LCY last week on LCYB, my 1st RJ85 flight!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
bought some new earl grey tea (my previous box was almost gone, and we really wanted a new box; Mark, it was a good choice by you!),

- Glad you enjoyed, will bring more next time in AMS.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
gate 21. This is one of the newer gates at LCY, but I don’t like the seating in the gate area.

- Yes, who chose those seats, really bad.

Despite the poor weather, the pictures came out really well.

Thanks Eric.

Best Wishes

Mark



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User currently offlineElevate From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 19795 times:

Hi Eric,

A well written report - well done!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
G-BXAS resting the night at gate D29, before my flight to LCY

Great photo!

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):

(runway 24 is used less frequent now for departures, due to noise regulations, exceeding limits at this moment).

Is that just in the morning, or all day?

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
My aircraft waiting for the flight to Amsterdam (to be 2nd commercial flight of this machine)

This picture and all of the ERJ images are stunning!


Sam


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 19791 times:

Hi again, thanks for the additional comments so far! Appreciate it a lot!

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 12):
Wow! LCY sure looks like a very nice little airport.

For London standards, this is the best airport you can use. I had nobody waiting for in line at security, only passport control took some minutes. Staff is also more relaxed, and very attentive.

Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 14):
On a sidenote, who needs concorde when you can arrive before you depart on an RJ100

Only planes with 4 engines can fly that fast  Wink

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 13):
skipping the homeworks for this was quite worth it

Jonas, you know, I also skipped homework rather often when at school, and still I have an interesting job at the airport... When the result is good in the end, that counts  Wink

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 13):
The service provided on the return flight didn't look nice at all, IMHO CityJet seem to offer a higher level of service.

The flight was early afternoon on this BA leg. So only 'snack time'. Maybe you compare with my previous Cityjet report, that was a early evening flight, so the meal was a sandwich.
BA also serves a sandwich in the morning and around late afternoon/evening, it's changing throughout the time of the day.
What is good from BA, that they offer 2 complimentary drinks at once (LH style). This was something I missed on my last Cityjet flight.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 13):
The pics were great, in fact better than usual, did you use your new camera for this report?

Thanks. Actually the AMS-LCY is done by my small Canon Ixus, the City airport and EMB170 flight is done by the Nikon D300. My first time try-out with it actually  Wink

Quoting Sebjacques92 (Reply 15):
I was also wondering about the performance of the aircraft considering the short runway at LCY but it would appear it had no problem getting off the ground with plently of runway to spare. I can only imagine how exciting the landing must be!!

I saw the EDI-LCY flight arriving (the same aircraft), and it used the complete runway to stop, but, this might be done due to the fire brigade... they were waiting for the aircraft almost at the runway end, so maybe just on purpose.
I think this aircraft is fully capable to handle these situations. (otherwise it was not certified for it).
More interesting to watch might be that A318... but the LCY-JFK flight is not at full load, since it refuels at SNN. So, maybe not spectacular at all.

Regards,
Eric



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 19732 times:

Hi Mark & Sam, thanks for your reading!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 16):
Congrats for getting on it as planned,

You know, I was worried a bit after this aircraft went back to the factory after it suffered the birdstrike on her delivery flight. Finally it all went ok  Smile

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 16):
I saw LCYD & the 1st 318, EUNA, when I flew into LCY last week on LCYB, my 1st RJ85 flight!

Nice! Good catch, that RJ85. So, that A318 was not in today, for sure. I guess you'll be on it anytime soon on your future NYC visits?

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 16):
Yes, who chose those seats, really bad.

Despite the poor weather, the pictures came out really well.

Glad you liked the pictures. And those seats, it's just unbelievable. A classy airport like City cannot stand with such bad seating facility. How about older people? You can't ask them to sit on these stupid things?! And will this gate also be used for the future JFK flights?

Quoting Elevate (Reply 17):
Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):

(runway 24 is used less frequent now for departures, due to noise regulations, exceeding limits at this moment).

Is that just in the morning, or all day?

Sam, the total amount of noise is set in advance for areas around AMS. I think this usually goes per quarter. Now the counters for noise pollution on the departure tracks from runway 24 are close to the limits (it's one of the preferential runways in AMS). Therefore since last week, runway 24 is not in use, and instead 18L is used for departure.
In case of prevailing wind or strange weather, runway 24 might be opened, despite the regulations.

Regards,
Eric



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User currently offlineDL752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 174 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 19632 times:

What a beautiful bird!

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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1313 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 19594 times:

Hi Eric!

Great report, as usual  cool 



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User currently offlineA318 From Bahamas, joined Jan 2008, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 19445 times:

Great trip report!

Are the RJ100 and EMB170 actually operated by British Airways crew members?



Welcome aboard!
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 19150 times:

Hi Eric.

Thanks for this report - there's nothing quite like the smell of a brand new aircraft (even beats the brand new car smell!). I've done a handful of inaugural flights myself (at least AB HEL-DUS, BT TMP-RIX, maybe some others I don't remember) and we did get something extra on all occasions, but no real announcements why.

The E-jets are pretty cool planes - a definitive improvement over any other RJ, including CRJ-900s. The ERJ-90 is even better - funnily it feels much more roomier and larger than the -70 even though it's just supposed to be a stretched version.

Quoting Airbuseric (Thread starter):
Meanwhile I noticed that our landing runway would be 18R, so meaning about 20 minutes taxi time.

Nothing like good old Polderbaan - you land in Haarlem and take the highway back to Schiphol  Smile

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 18):
More interesting to watch might be that A318... but the LCY-JFK flight is not at full load, since it refuels at SNN. So, maybe not spectacular at all.

Does anybody know whether the pax actually go through the US immigration facilities at SNN? That would potentially save lots of time at JFK and give the passengers something to do while they refuel the plane,.

Once more thanks for posting it so quickly.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18902 times:

Hi guys, thanks for the further comments!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Does anybody know whether the pax actually go through the US immigration facilities at SNN? That would potentially save lots of time at JFK

I think you are a winner! I heard it's for time saving at JFK, which might be crowded at some times.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Nothing like good old Polderbaan - you land in Haarlem and take the highway back to Schiphol

Then our captain was driving too slow for that highway. Probably he was taking care for his new bird.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
The E-jets are pretty cool planes - a definitive improvement over any other RJ, including CRJ-900s. The ERJ-90 is even better - funnily it feels much more roomier and larger than the -70 even though it's just supposed to be a stretched version.

I still find the CRJ700/900 comfortable and nice to fly on, but I want to be seated more in the forward rows to avoid the noise in the back of the cabin.

Quoting A318 (Reply 22):

Are the RJ100 and EMB170 actually operated by British Airways crew members?

CityFlyer crew on board, including the flightdeck.

Regards,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
25 Palmjet : Eric - yes - LCY - EDI was the first flight with the new aircraft, leaving LCY yesterday at 700am. The first person to check in for the flight was act
26 Golf1411 : You mean ckeck in or first at the gate? I was also on the inaugural flight and I have check-in sequence number 001 on my boarding pass? Or do you mea
27 PlaneHunter : Hi Eric, excellent report with great pictures! Very interesting to get an impression of CityFlyer's new E-Jet. Did they have some signs, too? I guess
28 Airbuseric : Hi guys, thanks once again for your comments; Nope, no real signage. But the leaflets were all around the check-in area, also at the self-service kios
29 Contact Air : Hi Eric, thanks a lot for this really interesting report about a very special flying event. It's always amazing to fly on such a new aircraft. You wer
30 FRACO7X : Very nice report Eric. I will try to fly the new BA Embraer on the 11Nov from City to Frankfurt. Hopefully I will get on the flight and no aircraft ch
31 Airbuseric : Hi again, thanks for your recent replies & reading! Indeed nice to make the advertisement by flyers, although I wonder if these business men care abou
32 FRACO7X : Yes I will be on standby. Good to know that they have a fixed schedule for the Embraer. Will have to see! I´m flying two days before with our LH fli
33 Airbuseric : Sounds good indeed! But, I think I can already say that BA's Embraer will win this match against LH, especially when it comes to cabin/passengers inf
34 Hardiwv : Thanks for the fantastic report! I agree. LCY is the best aiport in London and in fact one of my favourite airports in Europe. If you fly AMS-LCY you
35 Airbuseric : Hi. Hardi! Thanks for your message! Appreciate your comment, It's in 2 class config. You can see the cabin seperation curtain in one of the cabin pict
36 Hardiwv : Thanks I noted the curtain now. Agree and in the case of KL AMS-LCY RJ-85 you dont even have separation curtain between the two classes. Rgs,
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