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Egyptian Holiday (3): Discovering ABS The MS Way  
User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10235 times:

INTRODUCTION

Hello fellow A.netters,

We have spent our first couple days in Egypt enjoying the bursting life of Cairo. Then, the time has come for us to move on to our next destination, Aswan, by an overnight train.

If you are interested in how we have experienced our outward journey, here you can find our reports of the segments of AMS-ZRH and ZRH-CAI

We have decided what we wanted to visit after our arrival in Aswan. Now that we were gone so far, it was practically a stone’s throw to Abu Simbel. The place where UNESCO has contributed in moving the gigantic ancient Egyptian statues to a higher ground level in the area due to the construction of the world biggest artificial lake, the Nasser lake.


PREPARING OUR TRIP

Since our trip was taken care of by the local representative of our Dutch agent, we inquired them the possibilities to travel to Abu Simbel. He has told us that there are basically two ways to do that. By car or by tourist bus with both departure time at 04.30 A.M. The return journey would take more than five hours and cost 80 Euro’s each person! Strange enough, he kept going on about these ones. We had been informed of the possibility to travel by airplane. But it looked like it did not even come across his mind. At one extent, we had to call his attention to this.

So the representative rang his office on our request and managed to get some details of departure time. The first would be at around 7 o’clock in the morning and the second about two hours later. We decided that 7 o’clock would be fine. Besides, all of this can be arranged at an additional price 20 Euro’s each and the flight duration would be plus minus half an hour. The arrangement was soon made. It consisted of a return flight Aswan-Abu Simbel with Egyptair and a transfer to and from the airport .

Again I was excited about this trip. I was about to lose my virginity with MS!  Silly

After settling down the bill, we requested the booking confirmation. The representative has told us not to worry since everything has been organized. We insisted on it though and demanded the confirmation be delivered by the end of the afternoon.

Upon collecting the confirmation, I soon found out that the representative has screwed up our details. Despite having our names in written at his disposal, he still managed to misspell both our names.

When we got collected on the departure day by another guy from the office, we pointed it out. He was not really happy with that. Nevertheless, he calmed us down and said that he would take care of it. I wondered…


FLIGHT INFORMATION



Our itinerary:
Route: ASW-ABS
Date: 21 September 2009
ETD/ATD: 06.55 / 07.05
ETA/ATA: 07.45 / 07.34
Flight number: MS 130
Plane: Airbus 320-232
Registration: SU-GCL
First delivered: 29 September 1992 to Shorouk Air as SU-RAA


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AT THE AIRPORT

It looks like that Aswan serves as a military airport. At the entrance of the airport, our car was stopped by a soldier. Noticing us at the back seat, he asked our office guy some questions. One of them must have probably been where we came from because of the Arabic pronunciation of Holland as an answer. We were then waived through.

Outside the terminal building, there were many soldiers around. Some of them were visibly carrying guns. I wanted to take a picture from outside, but eventually decided not to continue as the presence of the soldiers was quite intimidating for me.

Together with our guy we went through security. He proceeded to check us in.


CHECK IN


Check in desk

Our guy did return with two boarding passes. Of course with our names misspelled on it. What amazed me, is that there was absolutely no need to show any ID card of one of us.


My boarding pass

He escorted us until the entrance of the holding room. He told us that we had to collect our return boarding passes on arrival in Abu Simbel. After thanking him so far, we proceeded to the holding room.


FIDS


Seating area


Shopping arcade

Now here came trouble.

We were supposed to depart from gate 6. To go there we had to go through security again. I was getting worried as I have noticed a visible warning of liquid limitation to bring on board and we had a one liter bottle of very much needed water with us.




So we decide to wait outside, drinking water as much as possible. In the meantime, I did some spotting.




MS B735 incoming for his next assignment to Cairo

We still did not manage to finish our water. My partner said eventually, “Just let us try our luck. If we have to hand over our bottle, then so be it!”

I reluctantly followed. We got ourselves screened including the bottle water. But, what did turn out? Our bottle was not confiscated! We were released after security together with our bottle!  Big grin


Inside secured area

In the meantime, our plane was visible at the apron. Incoming from Cairo and continuing to Abu Simbel.


In this area there was a statue of Osiris as well.




Our flights seemed fully booked. Apparently many passengers have made a similar decision to fly to Abu Simbel. Not an unreasonable one, though!


Boarding


About ten minutes before scheduled departure time, the boarding procedure was started.





A dedicated bus was waiting outside the gate. We were then transported to our aircraft.



MS B735 taking off for Cairo

Some shots downstairs after exiting the bus:











From the staircase:






Airside view of the terminal

At the door, we were greeted by one male and one female flight attendant. SU-GCL looked well maintained despite her age.


SU-GCL has an all Y configuration

We were assigned 11J and K. These were emergency exit seats:






[i[The best legroom[/i]

The following items were placed inside the seat pocket:




Safety card


In flight magazine


My lecture Big grin

Some views from the seat:


The left side


Yikes! A piece of carpet is missing!


Window view against the light

I did not sit comfortably at 11K as I found it a bit sat through. I could feel the frame against my bottom.

The flight would take thirty minutes with Captain Ahmad in charge. One flight attendant approached passengers seating in the emergency seats, with us included to go through the emergency procedures.

Finally, the boarding was finished and we were ready for takeoff.


Leaving the apron


Backtracking


Making an U-turn

The two engines spooled up and a powerful takeoff commenced.








CABIN SERVING

About 5 minutes after airborne, the fasten seatbelt sign was switched off. The flight attendants sprung into action and started a drink service from the forward cabin.



The flight’s serving was a choice of water of fruit juice. Edible for half an hour flight.



Fifteen minutes into flight, the captain announced that we started the descending.

Some views of Nasser lake:






On approach








The landing






Vacating the runway



Abu Simbel’s terminal building in sight


SU-GCL came to a stop


ARRIVAL

It was 26 degrees of Celcius on our arrival. A dedicated bus was waiting outside the aircraft.




See you later, SU-GCL!  Smile

In the arrival terminal, we approached an MS ground stewardess for our return boarding passes. On the contrary, he told us that these would be available when we came back to the airport later on.
“Just make sure you take the shuttle bus of 09.45!” he advised us.


Arrival Hall


Outside view

So we went outside to look for a dedicated shuttle bus to Abu Simbel, operated by Egyptair. There were three busses available. Apparently, this service was included in the ticket price. All passengers were divided into the busses. Several taxi drivers have tried to pursue us to go with them, but of course there was no need for that.


Shuttle bus

ABU SIMBEL



The view of Nasser Lake

Finally the breathtaking statues:








Me posing on the front


Last look before leaving the site


RETURNING TO THE AIRPORT

At 09.35 we were back in the shuttle bus again. By that time, the bus was still empty. It remained fairly empty until ten o’clock when all passengers finally returned. The scheduled departure time could have been 09.45, but yet they would be waiting. In the mean time, we could see our aircraft on approach to the airport.


FLIGHT INFORMATION



Our itinerary:
Route: ABS-ASW
Date: 21 September 2009
ETD/ATD: 10.45 / 10.45
ETA/ATA: 11.30 / 11.13
Flight number: MS 133
Plane: Airbus 320-232
Registration: SU-GCL
First delivered: 29 September 1992 to Shorouk Air as SU-RAA


AT THE AIRPORT

After going through the security, we found ourselves in a big hall which serves as a check in area and holding room.



There was a funny thing during the check in process of our return flight. My partner just gave the check in agent his onward boarding pass, while I went on searching my bag for the flight confirmation detail. When I finally found the paper, the agent has already checked us in!  Smile


My boarding pass

There were only two gates available. One next to the check in desk and one at the other end from which we were supposed to depart.


Our gate with an interesting wall painting

We did not have a long wait to board. So we made our way to the assigned gate.

The boarding procedure was here conducted in an interesting way. First, you go through the security with your belongings. Then, the ground crew screens your boarding pass and tear off a part of it. At the end, you may proceed to a dedicated bus.


Hi again, SU-GCL


Boarding scenes












Airside view of the terminal

We were greeted by two attractive female flight attendants. They were handing out refreshing tissues.




Again, waiting in line

Our assigned seats were 12A and B.




MS is definitely proud of her Star Alliance membership


Another superb legroom

We were among the firsts to board. So, boarding was still in progress.





This flight was not as full as the onward one. We noticed two empty seats at the emergency exit row.



Finally, boarding was completed on time. Everyone was ready for takeoff. On the contrary to the onward flight, no one came to go over the emergency procedures.



Some scenes before and after takeoff:




Leaving the apron


Backtracking


Making an U-turn

And a powerful takeoff instantly followed.











After 5 minutes into the flight, the attendants started drink service.



They served only water this time. One passenger asked for fruit juice, but got turned down .



Ten minutes later, the descent was started.






The landing





Welcome to the hazy Aswan.








ARRIVAL

The temperature in Aswan has reached 35 degrees.

Disembarking





We were bussed to the domestic arrival terminal.


The airside entrance


Baggage claim hall

Our representative has already been waiting for us outside. From inside the car, I did manage take outside picture of the terminal building of Aswan.




VERDICT

Egyptair was not disappointing at all. In fact, they were very efficient both on the ground and on board. Everything went smoothly. The serving was just perfect. In that kind of heat, what else do you need more than a glass of nice mineral water?

I hope you enjoy reading the third part of my trip report. Please feel free to leave some comments and suggestions.

Cheers,
Suryo


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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10092 times:

Hi Akhmad, a few questions:

- Is 2 hours enough to explore the whole Abu Simbel temple?

- Flight MS 130 coming in from CAI. Do the passengers from CAI have to disembark the aircraft if they are only on transit in Aswan enroute to Abu Simbel?

- Is flight MS 133 continuing-on to CAI? How about the transit procedure for this leg for passengers bound for CAI and just transiting in Aswan?

- Is there a direct CAI-Abu Simbel flight by MS which have this free shuttle bus service to the temple complex, the same as you took? Can it be purchased online from MS' website?

- Is there a bottled water being sold in Abu Simbel airport or the surrounding area? If no, how would passengers from CAI survive, considering the security check over there might be a little stricter than Aswan - their bottled water may get confiscated.

Thank you for the trip report series. I enjoyed both, the version here and the Bahasa Indonesia version at Indoflyer.Net.


User currently offlineAluminumcity From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9930 times:

Very nice Trip report! I was reading along and was thinking "Jeez, MS must be ridiculously proud of it's Star Alliance membership"... then I read it. Big grin


"Well, if I were flying on an MD-80, I'd be taking those anti-depressants too."
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6816 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9846 times:

Hi Suryo,

another great report, this time about a carrier which doesn't show up here very often. Too bad you got the same aircraft twice.

Quoting Akhmad (Thread starter):
By car or by tourist bus with both departure time at 04.30 A.M. The return journey would take more than five hours and cost 80 Euro’s each person!

No thanks!

Quoting Akhmad (Thread starter):
I wanted to take a picture from outside, but eventually decided not to continue as the presence of the soldiers was quite intimidating for me.

I guess that was a good decision.

Quoting Akhmad (Thread starter):
Some views from the seat:

Nice seat design.

Quoting Akhmad (Thread starter):
Yikes! A piece of carpet is missing!

Looks awful...


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 9615 times:

Now that's a route that doesn't get covered every day here. Or every decade, for that matter  Smile. Very interesting with nice pictures - thanks for posting this.

Was the crew the same on the flight back?


User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 9578 times:

Hi all,

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 1):
- Is 2 hours enough to explore the whole Abu Simbel temple?

It depends on what kind of tour you wish to take. We just spent less than an hour to stroll around on our own. If you book a guided tour, it can take up to two hours.

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 1):
- Flight MS 130 coming in from CAI. Do the passengers from CAI have to disembark the aircraft if they are only on transit in Aswan enroute to Abu Simbel?

I think so. Our Airbus was about empty during our boarding.

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 1):
- Is flight MS 133 continuing-on to CAI? How about the transit procedure for this leg for passengers bound for CAI and just transiting in Aswan?

MS 133 does indeed ABS-ASW-CAI. Upon arrival, every passenger of our flight was requested to disembark.

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 1):
- Is there a direct CAI-Abu Simbel flight by MS which have this free shuttle bus service to the temple complex, the same as you took? Can it be purchased online from MS' website?

MS does not have any nonstop flight to ABS. All of them are transiting in ASW. And yes, the tickets can be purchased online.

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 1):
- Is there a bottled water being sold in Abu Simbel airport or the surrounding area?

I did not notice any shop in arrival hall, just in the departure hall after security. If you are incoming from CAI, I am afraid you will have to buy a bottled water on the site.

Quoting Aluminumcity (Reply 2):
Very nice Trip report! I

Thank you for reading.  Smile

Quoting Aluminumcity (Reply 2):
was thinking "Jeez, MS must be ridiculously proud of it's Star Alliance membership"... then I read it.

What a coincidence! Big grin

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
another great report,

Hi PH, thanks.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Too bad you got the same aircraft twice.

Yeah, it would have been nicer to experience another aircraft.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
thanks for posting this.

My pleasure.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
Was the crew the same on the flight back?

I forgot to mention it. We got another set of cabin crews on our return flight.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27027 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (4 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9458 times:

Hi Great report as usual. I like the design on the MS seats. Nice to see something different.
The missing carpet is a bit bad though. Also like your traditional clothes. Nice and cool in hot weather.

Thanks for the report.

OA260


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4270 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (4 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9445 times:

Hi, Suryo!

Nice pics from Abu Simbel! And, nice dressing style for this hot place!

MS,... of course the good decision instead of a bus, but it seems they have a long way to go. Missing carpet, no juice on the return etc. Just a bit of all, but nothing seems well arranged to me. I think they need a long way to become on level with their other Star Alliance members.

Regards
Eric



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User currently onlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (4 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9380 times:

Hey, Suryo,

great stuff and superb pictures.
Now I know how to fly in Egypt.
No question, that I´ve preffered flying also in you´re situation.
Nice pics from Abu Simbel, like it.

You know, more please!.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: Capital travel on schedule!.
User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (4 years 12 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9255 times:

Hey Suryo
Wow. Just wow. Your TR brought back some well-hidden memories. The last (and only) time I did Aswan and Abu Simbel was in 1998-and I was 5. I was in awe of the magnificence of Egyptian culture even then.
I know we took a bus from Aswan to Abu Simbel, dunno if there were many flights anyway. Glad that the weather was on your side (26C isn't bad at all by Southern Egyptian standards).
Thanks for sharing!


User currently offlineEgyptair269 From Egypt, joined Mar 2007, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8984 times:

I have to say, fantastic!!!  Smile Im just like directorguy:

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 9):
Hey Suryo
Wow. Just wow. Your TR brought back some well-hidden memories. The last (and only) time I did Aswan and Abu Simbel was in 1998-and I was 5. I was in awe of the magnificence of Egyptian culture even then.
I know we took a bus from Aswan to Abu Simbel, dunno if there were many flights anyway. Glad that the weather was on your side (26C isn't bad at all by Southern Egyptian standards).
Thanks for sharing!

Me too, the only time I went ot Aswan was back in 1998, and i was 5!!!

I was really excited for this installment, MS seemed to do good, I would think that being served drinks only for a flight in which descent begins 15 mins after take off is pretty reasonable. The seat desing was pretty good too, only peeve is the missing peice of carpet!

PS. Do you have anymore installemnts coming? If so which Airlines?

Great Job Again  Smile

Salam,
EgyptAir269


User currently offlineTOLOSY From Luxembourg, joined Oct 2003, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8846 times:

Thanks for this trip report!

I flew this route back in January 1992!

I flew from CAI, I got off of the plane at Aswan, took back the bag and gave it to our guides who kept it aside while we were touring Abu Simbel and we jumped on the plane, same plane and crew of course. On board the aircraft there was just a drink service (who needs more for such a small route).

We then had two hours in Abu Simbel and it was pretty hectic... but did work. On e of the things I remember (i was 10 back then), was that at the end of the visit we saw the plane that was supposed to bring us back landing... I said suppose because the return was a bit more complicated than the way in.

When we turned in at the airport, it was a complete mess and even though we had a booking it was on a first come, first served basis so we had to wait for the next flight which a few minutes later so it was OK, then flight back to Aswan where we took our luggage before driving to our cruise boat.

Flights for way in: Boeing 737-500
Way back 737-200


User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8798 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 6):
Hi Great report as usual.

Thanks for reading, Phil.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 6):
Also like your traditional clothes. Nice and cool in hot weather.

Thank you. It was just perfect for the Egyptian climate. One of the very few things I bought in Egypt.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
Nice pics from Abu Simbel! And, nice dressing style for this hot place!

Thank you, Eric. Some people even thought I was an Egyptian and started speaking Arabic to me. Big grin

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
Missing carpet, no juice on the return etc. Just a bit of all, but nothing seems well arranged to me. I think they need a long way to become on level with their other Star Alliance members.

Pity of the missing carpet. But I am not so sure what other Star Alliance members would perform on that short flight. At that moment, I have got all I needed.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):
great stuff and superb pictures.



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):
Nice pics from Abu Simbel, like it.

Hi Markus, thank you for reading.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):
No question, that I´ve preffered flying also in you´re situation.

You bet.  wink 

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 9):
Wow. Just wow.

Hi Omar, Sjukran.

Quoting Egyptair269 (Reply 10):
I have to say, fantastic!!! Im just like directorguy:

Thank you, Egyptair269.

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 9):
The last (and only) time I did Aswan and Abu Simbel was in 1998-and I was 5. I



Quoting Egyptair269 (Reply 10):
Me too, the only time I went ot Aswan was back in 1998, and i was 5!!!

Really? How nice! Getting together on airliners.net!  Silly

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 9):
Thanks for sharing!

You are welcome.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):
You know, more please!.



Quoting Egyptair269 (Reply 10):
PS. Do you have anymore installemnts coming? If so which Airlines?

I have still got one MS domestic flight and the return journey to AMS with LX.

Quoting TOLOSY (Reply 11):
I flew this route back in January 1992!

Wow! It must have been such an experience. Can you notice any difference on the site in comparison with 1992?

Quoting TOLOSY (Reply 11):
Flights for way in: Boeing 737-500
Way back 737-200

Interesting planes to fly with! I am still missing Boeing 737-500 in my log.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8447 times:

Dear fellow A.netters,

Allow me to share you some impressions of Aswan.




Taken from the night train before arrival in Aswan


We took a felucca trip as well. We have got this lovely scenery:
















Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8549 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8429 times:
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Hi Suryo,

Looks like a decent domestic trip with MS, what is with the seat fabric though? - nasty!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8325 times:



Quoting Egyptair269 (Reply 10):
Me too, the only time I went ot Aswan was back in 1998, and i was 5!!!

LOL, I remember going in Easter that year.

Thanks for the additional pics Suryo, up in Cairo the Nile isn't that beautiful.


User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8305 times:



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 14):
Hi Suryo,

Looks like a decent domestic trip with MS,

I liked their domestic service. I have basically got everything I needed on that short flight.

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 15):
Thanks for the additional pics Suryo,

Aafwan, Omar.  Smile

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 15):
up in Cairo the Nile isn't that beautiful.

The Nile looks definitely better in Upper Egypt.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1663 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8281 times:

Excellent TR Suryo!

I cannot wait for the opportunity for me to fly MS, whenever that would be  Smile .. But after reading this TR, i am more curious to fly with them!

So what did you think of the dishdasheh? The traditional clothes you wore? I think in that heat, it can have a cooling effect haha!


Thanks a lot for sharing! You are getting better and better at trip reporting!


Regards,
Roni



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User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8281 times:



Quoting Ronerone (Reply 17):
Excellent TR Suryo!



Quoting Ronerone (Reply 17):
Thanks a lot for sharing! You are getting better and better at trip reporting!

Hi Roni, I am doing my best. Thanks for reading my report.  Smile

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 17):
I cannot wait for the opportunity for me to fly MS, whenever that would be .. But after reading this TR, i am more curious to fly with them!

MS delivers a decent service on their domestic flights. I have never been on their international flights. But compared to my earlier perception of MS upon reading the experiences of other fellow A.netters who were flying them internationally, my opinion has changed in a better way.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 17):
So what did you think of the dishdasheh? The traditional clothes you wore? I think in that heat, it can have a cooling effect haha!

I will certainly wear it whenever I am visiting countries like Egypt. The cooling effect is smashing. Big grin

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineEgyptair269 From Egypt, joined Mar 2007, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8155 times:



Quoting Ronerone (Reply 17):
cannot wait for the opportunity for me to fly MS, whenever that would be .. But after reading this TR, i am more curious to fly with them!

Hi Roni,

I strongly suggest you have your first MS experience when the new Y and Premium products arrive on the 77Ws (which will be delivered Jan 2010), and the new A330-300s (which will be delivered summer 2010). Also, the current A330-200s will have their interiors reconfigured starting Jan 2010. For all these aircraft there will be PTVs in Y, and a new lie flat business class seat in Business (MS operates these aircraft on a 2-class basis). I see from most of your TRs that you travel long distance, and that would be a perfect opportunity to test them. Might I add, I love your TRs Big grin

Salam,
EgyptAir269


User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1663 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8071 times:



Quoting Egyptair269 (Reply 19):
Hi Roni,

I strongly suggest you have your first MS experience when the new Y and Premium products arrive on the 77Ws (which will be delivered Jan 2010), and the new A330-300s (which will be delivered summer 2010). Also, the current A330-200s will have their interiors reconfigured starting Jan 2010. For all these aircraft there will be PTVs in Y, and a new lie flat business class seat in Business (MS operates these aircraft on a 2-class basis). I see from most of your TRs that you travel long distance, and that would be a perfect opportunity to test them. Might I add, I love your TRs

Salam,
EgyptAir269

Thank you for the tip EgyptAir. JFK is just about the destination that i will most likely consider MS in the future  Smile

Now back to Mr. Suryo's great TR!

Salam,
R



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User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8046 times:



Quoting Ronerone (Reply 20):
JFK is just about the destination that i will most likely consider MS in the future

I definitely look forward to your TR!  Smile

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineEgyptair269 From Egypt, joined Mar 2007, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8011 times:



Quoting Ronerone (Reply 20):
Thank you for the tip EgyptAir. JFK is just about the destination that i will most likely consider MS in the future

Now back to Mr. Suryo's great TR!

Salam,
R

Yeah you could connect to JFK via CAI. MS currently operate their horrible and revolting 77-200 to JFK, make sure you avoid that aircraft at all costs! Regarding the new 77Ws and A330-300s, they havent announced all the destinations they will be used in (they only announced Tokyo so far), but I presume JFK would be one of the destinations with the new a/c. My prediction is that they'll use the old 777-200s on the gulf routes, and the new aircraft for the long haul routes.

Salam,
EgyptAir269


User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7862 times:

Hi Suryo,

great report and fantastic pictures, reminded me of my visit to Abu Simbel some years ago.

Quoting Akhmad (Thread starter):
Since our trip was taken care of by the local representative of our Dutch agent, we inquired them the possibilities to travel to Abu Simbel. He has told us that there are basically two ways to do that. By car or by tourist bus with both departure time at 04.30 A.M. The return journey would take more than five hours and cost 80 Euro's each person!

That's what I did on my visit and I must say that driving through the desert in the early morning and experiencing the sunrise was great as well. But of course the flight is much faster and it offers some views from the air.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7843 times:

Hi Christoph,

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 23):
reminded me of my visit to Abu Simbel some years ago.

You don't say? It looks like we were telepathically connected when we were booking this trip.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 23):
That's what I did on my visit and I must say that driving through the desert in the early morning and experiencing the sunrise was great as well.

Wow, I admire you on that! The idea of traveling for five hours in the car had instantly put me and my partner off. Hence our inquiry for the flight.

Thanks again for reading.

Cheers,
Suryo



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