The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 22375 times:
Date : 29Sep09
Route : Dubai %u2013 Los Angeles
Distance : 8339 Miles
Flight : EK 215 Emirates
Flight Time : 16:08h
Dep. Time : 9:05
Aircraft : Boeing 777-200/LR
Registration : A6-EWG
Dep. Gate : 223
Seat : 27K
Movies : New In Town, The Proposal
This is another route that I have wanted to try since it was launched about a year ago.
I made it to Dubai and stayed in the transit area all night until I was able to check in for the flight at about 6: 00 in the morning. There were a lot of people arriving at that time and there were only two agents trying to take care of about 50-100 passengers. There were no clear lines and it was very chaotic. About twenty minutes later, the lines were shorter and more agents finally arrived. I finally got to talk to an agent who checked me in and told me that I would my boarding pass at the gate. The gate had also just changed to 223 from 120. This was important as 120 is in terminal 1 and 223 about 15 minutes away in terminal 3. At this time I discovered that the battery for my camera was almost dead. I tried to buy new batteries but was told that batteries are not sold at Dubai Airport. That's the reason I didn't take that many pictures for this trip report.
I did some more spotting before heading to the gate at about 7: 30. Boarding started a few minutes later into the gate room. When there was no line about 20 minutes later I approached the first podium for my seat assignment which I got from another agent. All the fellow passengers were still in the gate room and this was a 8:20 departure. No announcements were made and exactly at 8:20, people were allowed to board the aircraft.
I had a window seat and was one of the first 30 people to board. Emirates configures their 777s with 3-4-3 in Economy class but compensates this with more legroom. The seat was also very comfortable. Legroom was really good and I looked at the contents of the seatpocket while people were boarding. The inflight magazine was very thin; about half the size of the Duty Free catalogue. There was also the ICE booklet which was very informative.
I also discovered that the jack for the headphones was double pin jack and that my excellent iPhone headseat would not work well. I therefore had to use the ones Emirates provided. Not so great in my opinion. A nice feature is that you can play your iPhone content on ICE just by using a USB port. Very good!
The flight attendants were coming around with thick, hot towels which was very nice. They also handed out amenity kits which were very nice. It does not have any EK logo on it so it's easy to use for something after the flight. Just before we pushed back, the captain made an announcement explaing the delay. He said that the aircraft got to the gate late and that was the reason for the delay. He also apologized. The seat next to me remained open which made for a much more pleasant experience than if it had been taken.
We finally pushed at 9:05; 45 minutes late and then a quick taxi to the runway where we took off towards the desert. It was a very long take off roll as could be expected for such a long flight. Soon afterwards, we turned left and followed the coast of the UAE before crossing the Strait of Hormuz, over Bandar Abbas and Kerman northwards.
Breakfast was served which was great. I had the Breakfast Grill which included grilled chicken, turkey bacon, potato hash brown and baked beans. It also came with seasoned fruit and croissant. I had some tea with that and a Seven Up (large can).
I mostly looked at the Airshow map in the beginning and it was fascinating with the route we were taking. We continued northward over Ashgabat, Turkmenistan, over Chelyabinsk and Yekatrinburg, Russia. I watched two movies while we continued north to the Arctic Sea.
I was very tired since I didn't sleep the night before and managed to sleep for about 8 h on this 16h flight. We flew over the North Pole and made landfall close to Barrow, Alaska. We continued south past Mount McKinley and into the Gulf of Alaska by Cordova. We continued south over the Pacific ocean and made land fall again over Santa Cruz California. We continued towards Los Angeles where we arrived from the north and landed towards to west, on 24R.
Initial cruising altitude was at 31 000 ft, later going up to 37 000 ft. Most people including me, closed their window shades after a few hours. As the cabin got darker, I noticed that there was no mood lighting but there was a "starry sky"!! Yes, small lights in the ceiling that even formed constellations! Very nice! It was not possible to see these small lights in broad daylight. Very clever!
The crew was very friendly and much nicer than my previous experiences on Emirates. Most of them seemed young; under 25.
There was a mid-flight snack which was a Chicken Tikka wrap but I was asleep when it was served. There were also snacks in the galley in between the regular meal times.
A pre-lunch snack was served.
About an hour before arrival, lunch was served. I didn't feel that well at that time but chose the Lamb curry. I just took a bit and it was a bit spicy so I decided that it was probably a good idea for me not to finish it. The lunch also came with Salad Nicoise and a desert; Green Apple and Almond Dream. I had a piece of bread and asked for a Pepsi and was given a small can......I also had a small piece of chocolate that came with the meal.
About 30 minutes before arrival, they showed a very detailed video of how to fill out the US immigration forms and the customs form. Very good with such detailed video!
Passengers on the flight were in four different catagories; families connecting from India and Pakistan, people connecting from Iran, people connecting from Ethiopia and very few American-born passengers.
Many of the kids were roaming around the cabin freely and it's worth noting that two out of six lavatories were closed down in economy class. I thought that only happened on Air India or PIA (which actually did not happen on my flights on AI or PK.)
All in all a great flight with a fascinating routing and my longest flight to date.
Thanks for reading!
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
Aluminumcity From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 49 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 22271 times:
Awesome TR! I really like EK 's IFE system. It looks really nice. Does it respond quickly? I know with Air Canada's new Thales system it takes forever to respond.
"Well, if I were flying on an MD-80, I'd be taking those anti-depressants too."
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6191 posts, RR: 79 Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 22017 times:
Hi Lars,
what a great report, I was waiting for that one. I'm glad you had a very positive EK experience this time.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): I made it to Dubai and stayed in the transit area all night until I was able to check in for the flight at about 6: 00 in the morning.
I wouldn't want to do that...
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): I tried to buy new batteries but was told that batteries are not sold at Dubai Airport.
That's ridiculous. You can buy all kinds of weird designer stuff, but no batteries.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): A nice feature is that you can play your iPhone content on ICE just by using a USB port. Very good!
Indeed, it's a nice feature. You can also upload pictures from your camera.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): We continued northward over Ashgabat, Turkmenistan, over Chelyabinsk and Yekatrinburg, Russia. I watched two movies while we continued north to the Arctic Sea.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): We flew over the North Pole and made landfall close to Barrow, Alaska. We continued south past Mount McKinley and into the Gulf of Alaska by Cordova. We continued south over the Pacific ocean and made land fall again over Santa Cruz California.
Wow, interesting routing.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): As the cabin got darker, I noticed that there was no mood lighting but there was a "starry sky"!!
That's odd. They have both mood lights and the starry sky on the A380.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): I didn't feel that well at that time but chose the Lamb curry.
Lucky man. I failed twice to get the lamb on my last EK trip.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): Many of the kids were roaming around the cabin freely and it's worth noting that two out of six lavatories were closed down in economy class.
Sounds bad.
Quoting Aluminumcity (Reply 1): I know with Air Canada's new Thales system it takes forever to respond.
Sq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1585 posts, RR: 21 Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 21728 times:
Great report, glad you enjoyed your flight with us!
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2): That's odd. They have both mood lights and the starry sky on the A380.
The 77L has mood lighting as well, the crew must have elected not to utilize it on this particular flight.
Too bad you didn't try the tikka wrap, passengers seem to love it, though frequent fliers will notice it served very often on longhauls as the mid flight snack.
Caliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 21648 times:
this is the exact round trip i did a couple of months back..flew economy DXB-LAX..coming back i got bumped up to Business for the LAX-DXB leg . Glad to see someone finally did a TR. I was going to..but i was so tired on the damn flight that i just kinda sat there and watched movies and tried to sleep. Coming back i was so damn excited about business class i kinda forgot..hehehe . As far as the starry sky and mood lighting..very cool and it was utilized on my flight to great effect . The chicken tikka was my choice for the mid flight snack and it was quite tasty to boot. I didnt much care for the fish coming back on business though ...maybe i should have went with the chicken. The ICE system is fantabulous and one will NEVER go bored with it. One downer i do have to report is that the senior crew chief was a bit grumpy...older gentleman. Other than that, the crew were wonderful and they were absolutely amazing in Business class! I honestly think im gonna stick to EK for my travels back to the US from India from now on
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 20997 times:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2): I made it to Dubai and stayed in the transit area all night until I was able to check in for the flight at about 6: 00 in the morning.
I wouldn't want to do that...
Yes, it was very tiring; probably won't do that again. It's not so good to start such long flight being very tired.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2): That's ridiculous. You can buy all kinds of weird designer stuff, but no batteries
Yes, that's what I thought as well. I'm glad I could still get a few pictures.
Retrolivery From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 202 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 20901 times:
I had the EXACT same Lamb Curry meal to the letter on my recent DXB-BKK flight...it was flight 372 which is supposed to be operated by the A380 (why I booked it) but at the last minute it was switched to 773 non-ER 3-Class. UGH.
Shame you had to spend an entire night in the transit area
A3, AA, AC, AI, AK, AM, AP, AZ, B6, BA, CO, DL, EK, FL, FR, KL, KM, LH, MA, MH, MS, OA, OK, OS, SR, TA, U2, UA, US, XG
FLIEGER67 From Turkey, joined Sep 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 57 Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 20396 times:
Hi, Lars,
what a interesting flight, routing and report story.
The longest around my log is SIN-FRA with 12 hours.
Far away from that 16 hours here.
DXB and the QR 773 is also upcoming, you know.
Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1569 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 20024 times:
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): At this time I discovered that the battery for my camera was almost dead. I tried to buy new batteries but was told that batteries are not sold at Dubai Airport. That's the reason I didn't take that many pictures for this trip report.
Yup. I discovered that a few months back-and I was extremely bummed out. Especially since I usually double and triple my battery supplies. On my last trip out, I discovered that the rule also extends to watch batteries. Was pretty annoyed on both occassions. I know airports take security seriously, but c'mon...
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): I was very tired since I didn't sleep the night before and managed to sleep for about 8 h on this 16h flight
Awesome. Truly glad you were able to, esp. in Y. Usually I can't manage more than 10 minutes.
Great TR, thanks for sharing. And don't worry about the batteries-there's always next time!
Caleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 321 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 19678 times:
How was the passenger load on this flight? Fairly full or empty?
Caliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19492 times:
Quoting Directorguy (Reply 9):
Awesome. Truly glad you were able to, esp. in Y. Usually I can't manage more than 10 minutes.
the Y seats are excellent on the LR. If you dont manage to sleep, the ICE system will keep you awake
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8267 posts, RR: 56 Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 19305 times:
Hi Lars,
Another good read, thanks for sharing.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): I tried to buy new batteries but was told that batteries are not sold at Dubai Airport
- Really, how odd, they sell pretty much everything there!
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): The flight attendants were coming around with thick, hot towels which was very nice. They also handed out amenity kits which were very nice. It does not have any EK logo on it so it's easy to use for something after the flight
- Good to het a hot towel in Y & an amenity kit, would have expected EK to put their logo on it though.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): Breakfast was served which was great. I had the Breakfast Grill which included grilled chicken, turkey bacon, potato hash brown and baked beans. It also came with seasoned fruit and croissant
- Looks a decent meal.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): chose the Lamb curry. I just took a bit and it was a bit spicy so I decided that it was probably a good idea for me not to finish it. The lunch also came with Salad Nicoise and a desert; Green Apple and Almond Dream
- Again, looks pretty decent, shame you were not feeling great.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 19267 times:
Quoting Retrolivery (Reply 7): Shame you had to spend an entire night in the transit area
Yes, that was pretty crazy.....I will not do that again.
Quoting Retrolivery (Reply 7):
I had the EXACT same Lamb Curry meal to the letter on my recent DXB-BKK flight
It seems to be standard fare from DXB on EK.
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8): Far away from that 16 hours here.
DXB and the QR 773 is also upcoming, you know.
16h IS a very long time to be on an airplane. Especially difficult since I wasn;t feeling well.
Looking forward to hear about your trip on QR; I prefer QR over EK.
Quoting Directorguy (Reply 9): Truly glad you were able to, esp. in Y. Usually I can't manage more than 10 minutes
I didn't sleep for 8h straight, perhaps en hour or two at a time. I usually don;t sleep much on airplanes but I had had a lack of sleep for two days so I managed to sleep more than I usually do.
Quoting Caleb1 (Reply 10):
How was the passenger load on this flight? Fairly full or empty
Fairly full; I think one of the ground staff for EK said it was about 80 % full which seems about right
Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 12): amenity kit, would have expected EK to put their logo on it though
Yes, but a lot carriers realize that people like to use them after a trip. It's probably also cheapr without a logo.
Caliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 19051 times:
Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Yes, but a lot carriers realize that people like to use them after a trip. It's probably also cheapr without a logo.
my business class amenity kit has Emirates' logo on it...
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7791 posts, RR: 23 Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 18671 times:
Very good trip report, i clicked on your report curious to read what a ultra long haul 16 hour flight would be like. Luckily you managed to get some sleep, i don't know what i would have done staying awake for so long. The flight routing is interesting and unique, never seen a route trail like yours!
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 18557 times:
Quoting Caliatenza (Reply 14): That's weird.... never had that and never heard about that? Why was that?
I'm flying standby as an employee of another airline.
Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 16): The flight routing is interesting and unique, never seen a route trail like yours
Yes, very unique routing! Looks very funny in the pictures going around the North Pole.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
Akhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2334 posts, RR: 53 Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 18140 times:
Hi Lars,
Thanks for this lovely TR! I was wondering what it would be like to fly EK on the ultra long haul DXB-LAX. Nice to hear that they have decent Y offerings.
Too bad about your batteries! I would have felt the same.
Caliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 18077 times:
Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
Yes, very unique routing! Looks very funny in the pictures going around the North Pole.
indeed...i woke up to find out that we were over ice. I believe almost the entire flight was during the day...or at least most of it. I know flying over canada and the north pole was amazing....just a sheet of crystal ice glinting in the sun!
QatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1602 posts, RR: 7 Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 17731 times:
Very interesting Trip Report! Well done! You were lucky to sleep for 8 hours! I only wish to fall asleep for even a minute in any flight. The lamb curry looks tasty :P
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 17284 times:
MHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1050 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 16987 times:
Just got a chance to comment on this. Awesome TR, I've been wanting to read about this route for a while! I know you mentioned that the seat was comfortable, but did you feel cramped at all? I'm trying to figure out if a 3-4-3 configuration is really as bad as people say.
The food actually looks very good... Too bad you weren't really feeling that well to have the second meal.
Did you fly LAX-DXB-LAX with just a short stay DXB airport? If so, that is very impressive !
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks ago) and read 16941 times:
Thanks for your nice comments!
Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 22): but did you feel cramped at all? I'm trying to figure out if a 3-4-3 configuration is really as bad as people say
I did not feel cramped. Legroom was very good, the IFE box is small and, most importantly, the middle seat was empty. Having the middles seat empty is very important because it gives you more elbow room. I'm certain my flight would have been very miserable if that middle seat had been occupied. So 3-4-3 is not as bad as people say when the flight is not full. If the flight is full, different story which I don't want to experience myself.
Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 22): Did you fly LAX-DXB-LAX with just a short stay DXB airport?
No, flew in on UA the night before so I had about 14h in DXB since the UA flight was about 1h early.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
Caliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 16535 times:
Quoting The777Man (Reply 23): I did not feel cramped. Legroom was very good, the IFE box is small and, most importantly, the middle seat was empty. Having the middles seat empty is very important because it gives you more elbow room. I'm certain my flight would have been very miserable if that middle seat had been occupied. So 3-4-3 is not as bad as people say when the flight is not full. If the flight is full, different story which I don't want to experience myself.
actually, i think the window seat may be a bit cramped...it looked like that to me when i was siting on the asile seat.
25 The777Man: I don't think so; I was in the window seat The777Man
26 PlaneHunter: It's not as bad as many people say. I have had some less comfortable flights in "regular" configurations. Just have a look at Seatguru or other websi
27 Caliatenza: really? well thats good news then..maybe i'll pick the window next time
28 Chepos: Thank you for sharing your experience on EK (DXB-LAX). I am planning on flying this route early Nov. either out of SFO or LAX, whatever I can get on.
29 The777Man: Hi Chepos! I called EK reservations about a week before departure to check the load. Also I checked the GDS and they were still selling seats so I wa
30 Caliatenza: and the summer..this is why i got bumped up to J coming back to DXB this time.
31 LazialeMKD: is that routing normal for DXB - LAX route? Really interesting routing...
32 The777Man: I think it's a normal routing for DXB-LAX since it pretty much follows the Great Circle Route. Yes, the routing is very interesting! The777Man