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OpenSkies From British Airways: A New Era's End?  
User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:




I N T R O D U C T I O N
On Monday April 30th 2007, an important day in aviation history was marked as a deregulatory agreement was signed between the EU and the USA, opening the bilateral gates of transatlantic flying to European and American carriers. This agreement allows air carriers from these two countries to freely fly any route between any city in Europe and any city in America and completely does away with the circa-90’s bilateral treaties that dominated our yesteryears.

A lot can be debated over the effectiveness of this liberation in a manner similar to what reality has proven to us post-1978 Deregulation. London Heathrow is no longer the cash-cow palace of the monopolistic BA/VS/AA/UA royalty, and the same can be said for every other European airline’s respective hub. Simply put, it’s all you-can-eat for just about anyone.

However, some industry players still view this as the opportunity to capitalize on, in an attempt to produce a sustainable product that captures a healthy market share despite all the surrounding competition. Many have failed however, and the rest have yet to succeed; but some continue moving forward, albeit indefinitely.

To this very effect, a new airline was formed. Previously known as Project Lauren, this airline was created around the effectiveness of this new agreement, and was to take full advantage of it. The inaugural flight was to take place in June of the same year, and was planned for either Brussels or Paris from New York using Boeing 757 aircraft.

On Wednesday January 9th 2008, the “moniker for the new agreement” was born. As they say, “This is not a plane, this is OpenSkies from British Airways”



WELCOME TO MY 18th TRIP REPORT
This TR will cover my flights from Amsterdam to New York and back on OpenSkies in Biz Bed.



B A C K G R O U N D
This is the second and last of two reports on my trip to the USA. Going back to my previous Royal Brunei trip report, I had arrived at London Heathrow from Dubai. As mentioned in that TR, LHR was just a quick transit stop, and I had to quickly transfer from Terminal 3 to 5 to catch my BA flight to Amsterdam. As it was a regional flight, I decided not to document it and instead, use it for ‘resting’ time.

Please be advised that all pictures in the trip report were taken using a fisheye lens. Whilst I have recently received several suggestions to reduce the quantity of ‘fisheye-effects’, I had already taken all pictures in this TR prior. However, these suggestions have been, and will continue to be taken into consideration in all reports following this. My apologies.



O U T B O U N D
I had arrived Amsterdam on British Airways flight BA430 (A319 with reg. G-EUPW) at 10:40am, ten minutes ahead of schedule. I proceeded through immigration and to the baggage claim area to collect my suitcase, as I had to manually re-check it to New York. Upon collection, I proceeded through customs and arrived at the landside arrivals area. I had a little time to kill so I went outside to smoke a cigarette and make a few phone calls.

Part of the beauty of Amsterdam Schiphol lies within its integrated arrivals hall. Once you exit to the landside area, the arrivals hall is connected to a train/bus station with a small shopping complex built all around it, featuring all types of retail concepts ranging from designer clothing, luggage, books, model airplanes, f&b, groceries, and medicine. Furthermore, a small walkway tunnel connects this station and subsequently the airport to the Sheraton Amsterdam Airport Hotel. This airport is truly my favorite European airport, and one where I had traveled through during most of my university days.


Shops at The Arrivals Hall at Schiphol




At 11:30am I headed towards Departures Area 3, which is located one level above the arrivals hall. Nothing much has changed in the building itself however, compared with at least five or six years ago, it felt much more congested. There were passengers everywhere, and what made it worse was the mechanism used for placing the barricades dedicated for each airline’s check-in counters. They were literally everywhere and were set up in a maze-like manner that reached all the way out to the side of the counters. Furthermore, this ‘system’ had a dynamic element to it whereby the barricades were extended (or reduced) to wherever possible according to the passenger numbers joining the queues. Nevertheless, I shouldn’t complain any more, at least authorities were trying to rectify the congestion issue.


Vertrek 2: On My Way to 3



Vertrek 3




Arriving at Departures 3, I checked the FIDS to find that the OpenSkies counters were located at Desks 22, and were obviously handled by British Airways (Menzies). There were two counters dedicated for this flight, one for Biz Bed and the other for Biz Seat, and there was a small queue of passengers waiting for their turns to check-in.


Check-In Congestion



OpenSkies Check-In








The queue was moving very slowly, and the group of passengers checking-in in front of me seemed to be a little frustrated. Also, the staff at the counters seemed preoccupied and frazzled trying to resolve what seemed to be like a problem. At 11:50am it was finally my turn at the counters, but just my luck, the agent disappeared from her desk and hopped over to her colleague’s computer for several long moments.


Still In Queue for Check-In



Empty Check-In Desk




When the agent returned to her seat, she was very apologetic for the slow service as there was a problem with her system. She had to print the boarding passes and luggage tags from her colleagues printer. Nevertheless, she finally managed to issue my boarding pass, hand me the lounge card, and tag my suitcase to New York. By 12 noon I was checked in and ready to go.


Boarding Pass



Lounge Card – Front Side



Lounge Card – Back Side



Curbside




After my customary final landside cigarette outside, I headed towards immigration. The staff was exceptionally friendly, and my passport was stamped with no hassle, and with a smile as an added bonus. By 12:15pm I was airside.

Again, nothing much has changed in the airside area at Schiphol either. Over the past years I have come to know every odd and end at this terminal building. From the sushi/seafood bars, Mercure Hotel, the casino, and the reasonable retail offering, I’ve done it all, time and time again. However one thing was missing for sure and that was the insane presence of Northwest planes on the tarmac alongside the KLM beauties. Delta now takes over, and unfortunately Amsterdam will no longer be the same!


Airside at AMS










At 12:20pm I began my trek towards the British Airways lounge, which is located one level above, past the Mercure Hotel and the KLM lounge.


On My Way To The Lounge



KLM Crown Lounge



Arriving At The British Airways Lounge




Before I entered the lounge, the attendant caught me taking a picture of the entrance with one quick glimpse and she stormed outside and gave me a scolding that made me feel like I was in boarding school.

“Do NOT take pictures of ANYTHING British Airways ok?”

I was not committing a crime and so I did not appreciate her tone of voice, or her attitude. I responded back with the exact same tone and attitude as hers, but with a little white lie that denied her suspicions. She instantly calmed down and became super nice like a schizophrenic. I proceeded inside the lounge and continued to take pictures.


Inside The British Airways Lounge






The lounge was quite ordinary for medium/long-haul flights, however since it is a British Airways lounge and not solely for the OpenSkies operation, it served the purpose for intra-European flights. The lounge was absolutely deserted and offered nothing of interest to me in terms of food or beverage, so I left after a few minutes, and headed towards Gate D10.


FIDS



On My Way to the Gate






Arriving at the gate, I found two security officers screening passengers before entering the holding area. The typical questions were asked that involved my origins, destination, purpose of travel, and several questions revolving around the what, where, when, why, and how I packed my suitcase. After passing my screening, I was allowed to proceed through the security check, and by 1:05pm I was inside the holding area.


Lauren Preparing For New York



Inside the Holding Area




The OpenSkies boarding process is quite laid-back. Boarding commences about 45 minutes before the scheduled departure time, allowing passengers to board the aircraft at their own leisure, and never in a rush. You may stick around the airport a little longer, or you may hop on board for a drink or two; it’s your call. This mechanism for a total of a mere 80 passengers is quite unique. In my case, boarding was called slightly later at 1:10pm. With nothing more to do at the airport, I gathered my things and proceeded towards the aerobridge. My boarding card was scanned by the ground staff, and I was wished a pleasant flight to New York.


Through the Aerobridge




Arriving at Door 1L, I was greeted by Shauna from England, who was the purser on today’s flight.

“Hi there, welcome on board sir”

By 1:15pm I was on board OpenSkies.


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A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
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User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Flight Information

Airline: OpenSkies
Flight No.: EC21
Routing: Amsterdam – New York (JFK)
Scheduled Departure Time: 01:45 PM
Actual Departure Time 01:55 PM (Pushback)
Scheduled Arrival Time: 04:00 PM
Actual Arrival Time: 03:40 PM (Touchdown)
Equipment: Boeing 757-236
Registration: G-BPEK (Lauren)



The Biz Bed





I was hesitant to fly a narrowbody on a transatlantic flight, however the OpenSkies cabin was beautiful and the moment I got a feel for it, I did not think twice. I quickly settled into my seat, and I found it to be one of the most comfortable business class seats I have ever experienced. The seat in its upright position is slightly reclined when compared to your typical offering elsewhere. This allowed me to relax at ease very quickly.



My Biz Bed To New York



Leg Space



Blankets Placed on Every Seat



Socks & Eyeshades Placed on Every Seat





The moment I settled in, a striking French lady that goes by the name of Leslie, dressed in the Purple-Black L’avion uniform approached me with a tray of welcome drinks.

“Good afternoon monsieur, welcome on board, my name is Leslie”
“Thank you, nice to meet you”
“May I offer you something to drink before takeoff?”
“Champagne please”

While she only had champagne and water on her tray, there was a full open bar on offer, as other passengers were requesting random drinks.



Leslie Offering Welcome Drinks



My Champagne



The Cabin









What made the experience even more interesting was, as shown above, some crew were from the original OpenSkies when it was first kicked-off, and others were from L’Avion; yet both maintained their original uniforms. The OpenSkies cabin crew mainly consisted of American and British nationalities, while the L’Avion crew were predominantly French.

Water bottles were then distributed, and at 1:25pm the seatbelt sign was switched on.



My Bottle of Water





While there are many positives about the experience so far, there naturally has to be some negatives as well. The seat, with all the superb comfort that it offers, lacks areas for personal storage. Apart from the small seat pockets and the overhead bins, you really have nothing. Other than that, there were no in-flight magazines, Duty Free catalogues (Duty Free was not even offered on board), or IFE guides. Not that the existence of these things matter to me for their very purpose, but I was trying to find anything that had the OpenSkies logo that I could ‘legally’ take home with me, but found nothing. Finally, the lack of solid amenity kits was another negative as well. Socks and eyeshades were available, yet the lack of any company logo on them only tells me that they could be a less expensive standard option they selected from the supplier.



Still Parked at the Gate





At 1:40pm our French captain made an announcement to welcome us on board this OpenSkies flight to New York. He proceeded to inform us of our routing to JFK, and that our flight time for today was 7 hours and 20 minutes.

By then, Leslie returned to my seat to take my lunch order.

“Monsieur, what can I offer you for the starter? I have beef salad or sushi”
“Do you have a menu?”
“I am sorry sir, but we do not have menus”
“Alright then, I will have the beef salad please”
“For main course I have white fish, chicken breast, or pasta. What would you like to have?”
“Chicken please”
“Would you care for any cheese after your meal?”
“Yes please”
“And for dessert I have passion fruit cake or fruit”
“I will take the fruit”
“What about your drink? What would you like?”
“A Bloody Mary please, and spicy”



All Ground Staff Please Exit, This Aircraft is Bound for New York





The doors were eventually closed, and pushback occurred at 1:55pm. As I was seating in the ‘opposite’ direction, it felt a little strange to ‘push-front’ during pushback.

As there was no form of IFE on board, the safety demonstration was done manually, and had to be performed twice due to the positioning of the Biz Beds. All announcements were made in English, and French.



Pushback





We began our taxi and twenty minutes later, this tiny bird of an airplane began its roaring sounds across the runway. Soon enough at 2:20pm, Lauren was up and away to New York.

As we reached cruising altitude, the seatbelt sign was switched off and the crew were released to prepare for the service.

My Bloody Mary was eventually brought to me along with a plate containing a bowl of nuts and another contained a salmon canapé.



Bloody Mary, Nuts & Salmon





Separately, Leslie passed around the cabin with a tray of amenities that consisted of toothbrushes, lip balm, and ear plugs. This was followed by a hot towel service, which consisted of standard disposable hot towels similar to the ones used in Economy Class.



Amenities





My empty glass was cleared away, and my meal tray was placed on my table shortly afterwards. Leslie then returned to the galley to fetch the bread basket.

“Would you like some wine with your meal?”
“Actually, may I have another Bloody Mary please?”



Meal Tray with Tasty Beef Salad Starter





The plates were not labeled, however the linens had BA First labels, while the silverware was from L’Avion.



L’Avion Logo





Followed by Main Course: Chicken with Fried Rice & Asparagus





The chicken was also quite tasty, and overall the meal was on the healthy side, which I like. I was offered seconds on the bread, and thirds on the drinks, and the service was very prompt, efficient, and with a touch of flare.



Cheese & Crackers



Nicely Presented Fruit Plate





The service was concluded with the offering of coffee or tea, in which I declined in favor of some sleep. My tray was cleared away, and I decided to pay my routine duties at the lavatory before catching some snoozes.



Oldskool B757 Lavatory





About one and half hours before landing, Leslie woke me up to ask if I wanted something to eat.



“Monsieur, would you like some snack before landing?”
“Yes please”
“Can I get you some coffee or tea? Or something else to drink?”
“Coffee please”



A Snack Box!







To be honest, I was not expecting an LCC-type of snack box to be included in a Business Class product (albeit lower-cost). However, I must admit that the contents of the box, which included a sandwich, a cookie, a pastry, and a cake, were of very high quality and the type you would normally find at a gourmet patisserie. Similarly, everything tasted quite nice too.

At 3pm New York time, the captain made an announcement to inform us that we had began our initial descent towards John F. Kennedy International Airport. The seatbelt sign was switched on, and the cabin crew made final preparations before landing, which included the collection of portable IFE players and headsets.



Outside View During Descent









Touchdown at 3:40pm



Parked at the Gate





As we docked at the gate and the seatbelt sign was switched off, everyone got up to gether their belongings in preparation to disembark. Similarly, I got up and grabbed my things and proceeded towards Door 1L, where I thanked Shauna for her team’s great effort and proceeded out of the aircraft and into JFK.

Immigration and customs were no hassle, and nothing to complain about. When I arrived at the baggage claim, my suitcase was already on the belt, and soon enough I was on my way to the AirTrain to catch my Delta flight to Chicago O’Hare.



Lauren from the AirTrain Station





The next part of this TR will cover the return flight to Amsterdam.



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A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I N B O U N D
My trip started back in Chicago O'Hare, where I was to catch Delta flight DL6798 to JFK. While my itinerary of un-interlined agreements posed no problems for me on the outbound sectors, it was unfortunate that something had to happen eventually, and that too was on the inbound sectors. As such, it started at ORD where my DL flight was cancelled due to in inoperable aircraft door.

I was starting to worry because all my connection timings at New York (EC), Amsterdam (BA), and London (BI) were extremely tight, and I had to be at work the very next day. But eventually I was booked on an American Airlines flight to La Guardia airport and just hoped and prayed that I could cab it through to JFK in time.

The AA flight arrived LGA at 6:15pm, some 15 minutes late. I rushed out, grabbed my suitcase, and headed outside to catch a taxi to JFK. By 7:15pm I had arrived at JFK Terminal 7, the British Airways Terminal.



Cabbing it to JFK



Arriving at The British Airways Terminal at JFK





After my customary pre-check-in smoke, I proceeded inside Terminal 7. At JFK, the British Airways terminal offers a typical setting expected out of the usual American Airport. Designated as the Oneworld Terminal and used by most of the alliance’s members such as British, Cathay, Finnair, and Iberia, some unfortunate recent members seem to still be considered as outliers (RJ). It was back in 2006 prior to my inaugural-experience flight on Cathay Pacific when I used this terminal, and seemingly very little has changed since then. Nevertheless, as a British Airways spawn, OpenSkies also operates from this terminal, and their check-in counters are located by the British Airways First check-in desks.



Main Check-in Hall At JFK Terminal 7



FIDS





While everyone had to stand in long queues for a typical check-in, all OpenSkies passengers are given the ultimate exclusivity of turning left once entering the terminal and proceeding to a separate wing with counters dedicated solely for Biz Bed and Biz Seat passengers. While this is a welcomed feature, this BA-proper premium check-in area offered nothing more than an LCC-type of experience; a big negative point for British Airways!



OpenSkies Check-in at JFK







Arriving at the counters at 7:20pm, I handed my documents to Barbara, a very friendly BA ground staff, who routinely processed my way through the system. She informed me that my seat selection has changed due to a last minute equipment change that resulted in the deployment of another aircraft with a different configuration. By 7:25pm I was handed back my documents, and I received my boarding pass for the flight.

“You may proceed to the Terraces Lounge where you can have dinner and relax, and we will call for your flight”



My Boarding Pass





Back Outside for a Glimpse of the Aircraft





While outside, I noticed a camera crew standing by the curbside all prepared to film something that seemed like it was close to happening. Sure enough, a blue limousine arrives at the curbside leading to the BA First check-in. No one got out for many minutes, and instead, a British Airways agent walks out of the terminal and towards the car. The door eventually opened and out came a female who looked awfully familiar. As she was escorted inside the terminal, the cameras started rolling and flashing from all directions. I didn’t care much to know who it was, until I learned from the TSA security agent later on, that this person was in fact, RIHANNA! Unfortunately, by then it was too late to take any pictures, as she had vanished!

Later on, I proceeded back inside the terminal and towards security. The usual stripping of clothes, and lap-top extractions occurred as the latex-gloved security staff processed my way through the machine. By 7:45pm I was airside and right in front of Gate 1.



Holding Area at Gate 1





At the same time, a general boarding call was made for all OpenSkies passengers on EC22 to Amsterdam. With no time to visit the lounge, or even sit by the gate area, I immediately proceeded towards the gate. Handing my boarding pass to the agent, she scanned it on the boarding card reader and wished me a pleasant flight.



Tarmac View By the Gate



Walking Through the Aerobridge





Arriving at Door 1L of the aircraft, I was once again greeted by Shauna who was leading the set of crew on my outbound flight.

“Hi there, I’ve seen you before!”
“Yes you have, 5 days ago on the flight from Amsterdam”
“Yes that’s right, welcome back!”


By 7:50pm I was on board.

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A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Flight Information

Airline: OpenSkies
Flight No.: EC22
Routing: New York (JFK) - Amsterdam
Scheduled Departure Time: 08:20 PM
Actual Departure Time 08:12 PM (Pushback)
Scheduled Arrival Time: 09:55 PM
Actual Arrival Time: 09:30 AM (Touchdown)
Equipment: Boeing 757-236
Registration: G-BPEJ


The Cabin



My Seat





As I settled into my comfortable seat, Shauna dropped by for a quick chat.

“Was it your first time to fly with us last week?”
“Yes it was”
“How do you find it so far?”
“Excellent thank you”
“If you tell me like I’m stupid I might take a picture of you later on”
“Will do for sure”
“By the way, you may want to keep your camera because Air Force One is here”



Leg Space



Blanket, Socks, and Eyeshades





The crew operating the flight back to Amsterdam was mostly American, and there appeared to be no L’Avion branded crew today. An American male crew appeared by my seat offering a welcome drink selection between champagne and orange juice.



My Champagne



Pre-Takeoff Lounging



Safety Kit & IFE Guide



Passengers Boarding







At 8:10pm our Irish captain made an announcement to welcome everyone on board. As always, he advised us of our routing to Amsterdam and that our flight time for tonight was 6 hours and 35 minutes. The seatbelt sign was switched on, and the doors were closed immediately afterwards. Shauna then collected the empty glasses in preparation for what seemed like an early departure.

“Obama is coming in a helicopter which is why we want to leave before he arrives”

Another crew appeared at my seat to take dinner/breakfast orders; she was American and her name was Shena.

“Sir, what would you like to have for dinner after takeoff? I have fish or chicken”
“Is there a menu?”
“I am sorry sir, we have not introduced menus yet”
“That’s alright, I will take the chicken”
“It’s a chicken soufflé dish with shellfish sauce, is that alright?”
“Yes that’s ok”
“And what would you like to drink with that?”
“A Bloody Mary please”
“May I wake you up for breakfast before we land?”
“Yes please”

Pushback occurred at 8:12pm as the usual two-round manual safety demonstration was performed. We waited for about 35 minutes until we began our taxi to the runway; something so typical at JFK.



Cabin Lights Dimmed During Taxi



Taxiing to the Runway





We took off to the skies and G-BPEJ began her premium journey to Amsterdam Schiphol.



Passing Around a Storm During the Climb





As we reached cruising altitude, the seatbelt sign was switched off and the crew got up to prepare for the service. This commenced with the distribution of the portable video players.



Shauna Setting Up Portable Video Players



My IFE







Dinner service was conducted quickly and efficiently, but lacked any form of warmth on this flight, which was quite opposite to the experience on the outbound sector.



Meal Tray with Starter Plate & My Signature Bloody Mary



Veggie Starter Made of Yellow & Red Pepper, Lentils, and Boiled Egg



Followed By Bland Tasting Chicken Soufflé & A Second Bloody Mary



Tea & Dessert Followed





The dinner was good overall, but a little on the bland side. While the vegetable starter was great, the main course lacked any taste, and the chicken looked and tasted like processed canned chicken. I skipped on the cheese plate, but had the custard tart for dessert with a cup of tea, both of which were nothing to complain about.

After dinner, I powered on the IFE for a quick exploration before going to sleep. There was a decent selection of movies, TV shows, music, and games, however at that time nothing major enticed me.



IFE Interface





Cabin Lights Dimmed



In Bed!





With only a few hours left to landing, I woke up and found that it was daytime already. By 8:10am local time at Amsterdam, Shena reappeared by my seat.

“Would you like any coffee or tea with breakfast?”
“Coffee with milk please”

My meal tray was eventually brought to me. Breakfast seemed like a one-tray one-time service which consisted of fruit, a sandwich, orange juice, butter, and preserves. A bread basket was also passed around, and I selected a croissant.



Breakfast Service







After the simple yet energizing breakfast, my tray was collected, and my table cleared. Shauna then passed around and collected everyone’s portable IFE’s.

At 8:50am our captain made an announcement to inform us that we were to begin initial descent towards Amsterdam Schiphol within the next 10 minutes. By 9am the seatbelt sign was switched on as we descended towards the Dutch lands.

The cabin crew made their final preparations before landing, which included the collection of blankets, and return the coats and jackets back to the passengers. At 9:30am we finally touched down at Amsterdam, bringing this flight to an end. After a quick taxi this time around, we finally docked at the gate next to an Air Astana B767.



Touchdown at Amsterdam Schiphol



Pulling in at the Gate







C O N C L U S I O N
OpenSkies was a pleasant experience overall. I believe that their product is completely underrated and I think British Airways is to blame for not giving them a chance after launching them almost immediately after the EU-US Open Skies Agreement. I believe that they offer a unique product unlike your typical premium service found on other airlines. More importantly, with a small operation, frequent travelers and the crew will become more acquainted with each other, providing more of a private club type of feel when flying OpenSkies. However, their best asset was their comfortable Biz Bed seat, which as I mentioned earlier is perhaps one of the most comfortable Business Class seats I have ever experienced; it is highly recommended.

There are however some negative points that could be worked on and this includes improving on the quality of the food, introducing amenity kits, menus, and built-in IFE. Furthermore, there seems to be some inconsistency in the services offered on both of my Amsterdam sectors, and also from what I have read in previous OpenSkies Trip Reports here. Cabin crew were friendlier on my outbound flight, and a tad unbothered on the inbound, while a previous EC TR showed that menus were in fact handed out to the passengers in Biz Bed, which seemed non existent in the Amsterdam operation.

No one knows what this airline’s fate is at the moment. Hopes were so high for them at first however, they seemed to have been launched at the wrong time right before the crunch. Only one week after my flights, OpenSkies had announced the suspension of their Amsterdam services with a focus only on their Orly operation for the time being. Everyone claims they will follow the likes of Silverjet and EOS, however you have to give them more credit as they are still flying at least. Currently they are seeking alternative investors, so who knows whether they will keep their BA branded tails or not. However, if you get a chance, do give them a try as they truly are a hidden gem that only needs a little attention!



This concludes my Trip Report. I have hope you have enjoyed it and I your comments are always welcome and greatly appreciated.

My previous Trip Reports can be found here:

Revealing An Underdog: Royal Brunei Business Class (by Ronerone Sep 3 2009 in Trip Reports)
The Singapore Airlines Cliché (by Ronerone Jul 27 2009 in Trip Reports)
A380: Qantas Proper To SIN City (by Ronerone Jul 6 2009 in Trip Reports)
Welcome To Terminal 3: Etihad Airways AUH-SYD (by Ronerone Jul 6 2009 in Trip Reports)
5th Freedom Of The Air: Kenya Airways HKG-BKK-HKG (by Ronerone Mar 31 2009 in Trip Reports)
Cathay Pacific: First Class On The Legacy Milk-Run (by Ronerone Jan 26 2009 in Trip Reports)
Inspirations On A Narrowbody: Etihad To Amman (by Ronerone Nov 28 2008 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Boleh!: On The Malaysian Airline System (by Ronerone Oct 28 2008 in Trip Reports)
Pearls & Diamonds: Inspired By Etihad Airways (by Ronerone Sep 12 2008 in Trip Reports)
The Future Has Arrived: EK A380 Inaugural Flights (by Ronerone Aug 4 2008 in Trip Reports)
Syrian Special Performance, Featuring Sam Chui (by Ronerone May 23 2008 in Trip Reports)
This Is Royal Jordanian! (by Ronerone Apr 12 2008 in Trip Reports)
Ultra-Competitive, Ultra-Long Haul: EY Vs EK (by Ronerone Mar 21 2008 in Trip Reports)
Suvarnabhumi, The Etihad Way! (by Ronerone Jan 18 2008 in Trip Reports)
Cathay Delight: A Trip To Asia's World City (by Ronerone Oct 5 2007 in Trip Reports)
Etihad: Pearl 2 AMM, Coral Right Back Pt 2 PixVidz (by Ronerone Jul 5 2007 in Trip Reports)
Etihad: Pearl 2 AMM, Coral Right Back Pt 1 PixVids (by Ronerone Jul 4 2007 in Trip Reports)
CX: JFK-HKG-DXB In Y A346/772 (Lots Of Pics/Vids) (by Ronerone Aug 28 2006 in Trip Reports)


You may also view these pictures, and others, on my flickr account:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jy-rwh79/sets/72157622461943809/




Regards,
Roni



A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1482 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I'm curious to know how the FA's serve the pax seated in the window seats? It looks like they would have to lean over the aisle-side pax to get to them and it could be awkward?


ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineCaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Another interesting, well-written, and thoroughly enjoyable TR. I look forward to your next installment. Thanks Roni.

User currently offlinePlunaCRJ From Uruguay, joined Nov 2007, 574 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

A fantastic Trip Report, and, as usual with you, packed with great pictures.

Openskies does sound like a nice airline to try and a very interesting concept.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 3):
“Was it your first time to fly with us last week?”
“Yes it was”
“How do you find it so far?”
“Excellent thank you”
“If you tell me like I’m stupid I might take a picture of you later on”
“Will do for sure”

I have read this over and over again and still don´t get it. How did the word "stupid" managed to get in the conversation?

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Please be advised that all pictures in the trip report were taken using a fisheye lens. Whilst I have recently received several suggestions to reduce the quantity of ‘fisheye-effects’, I had already taken all pictures in this TR prior. However, these suggestions have been, and will continue to be taken into consideration in all reports following this. My apologies.

I think your fish-eye pictures are fantastic; they make your TR ubique. Keep'em comming!


User currently offlineAntonovA330 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2007, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Roni,
thanks for this wonderful TR. It's always a truly enjoyable read you provide, especially your attention to detail.

I knew BA offers back- and forward seating in J, but it's the actually the first time I really realise that. Must be a quite strange feeling at take off, don't you slip off your seat??

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 6):
I have read this over and over again and still don´t get it. How did the word "stupid" managed to get in the conversation?

Due to my limited English skills, I'll second that question.  wink 



Good day to you sir! Please turn left, your seat is in the first row.
User currently offlineHawaiian452 From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great TR! Love the fish-eye shots.

Keep them coming!


User currently offlineRichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

“If you tell me like I’m stupid I might take a picture of you later on"

It means " if you ask me bluntly I will take a picture of you later on". In other words just ask and I will do it!

By the way great trip report. I don't think I will get the chance to fly Open Skies but I like the idea of their product.

Alex


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6902 posts, RR: 77
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi Roni,

many thanks for posting another marvelous trip report - well-written and accompanied by fantastic pictures! I had been wondering for a while how Open Skeis would be like.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Please be advised that all pictures in the trip report were taken using a fisheye lens. Whilst I have recently received several suggestions to reduce the quantity of ‘fisheye-effects’, I had already taken all pictures in this TR prior. However, these suggestions have been, and will continue to be taken into consideration in all reports following this. My apologies.

The fisheye pictures are fine, I cannot complain.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Before I entered the lounge, the attendant caught me taking a picture of the entrance with one quick glimpse and she stormed outside and gave me a scolding that made me feel like I was in boarding school.

“Do NOT take pictures of ANYTHING British Airways ok?”

Ridiculous!

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
I was hesitant to fly a narrowbody on a transatlantic flight, however the OpenSkies cabin was beautiful and the moment I got a feel for it, I did not think twice.

I wouldn't have a problem with a narrowbody on a longer flight if I I get enough legroom.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
I quickly settled into my seat, and I found it to be one of the most comfortable business class seats I have ever experienced.

The design is very nice, too. But I don't like the arrangement with rear-facing window seats.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Not that the existence of these things matter to me for their very purpose, but I was trying to find anything that had the OpenSkies logo that I could ‘legally’ take home with me, but found nothing. Finally, the lack of solid amenity kits was another negative as well. Socks and eyeshades were available, yet the lack of any company logo on them only tells me that they could be a less expensive standard option they selected from the supplier.

That's odd. But the brand itself is quite weak, anyway.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Meal Tray with Tasty Beef Salad Starter

Looks delicious, like most other stuff!

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
To be honest, I was not expecting an LCC-type of snack box to be included in a Business Class product (albeit lower-cost). However, I must admit that the contents of the box, which included a sandwich, a cookie, a pastry, and a cake, were of very high quality and the type you would normally find at a gourmet patisserie. Similarly, everything tasted quite nice too.

Looks similar to the box I got in Virgin America's First Class. Good to hear the food quality was great, though.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
I didn’t care much to know who it was

I wouldn't have cared either. I don't like all the fuss about so-called stars or celebrities.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
After dinner, I powered on the IFE for a quick exploration before going to sleep. There was a decent selection of movies, TV shows, music, and games, however at that time nothing major enticed me.

I guess an airshow wasn't available?


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineWouwout From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Excellent report and I like the fish eye lense pictures. Regarding you snack box: it's made by Huize van Wely (I can see their logo in the picture), probably the best / most expensive exclusive bakery/fine foods producer in the Netherlands. A fancy however not very large cake would set you back about €25 in their shops. If only they would have put the items on a plate...

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6645 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Very nice report but the fish-eye pictures are a bit annoying, I prefer pics with a regular lens.

The seats seem very simliar to UA's new C class seats.

The meal going to JFK looks a lot better than the meal on the return.

The777Man



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6451 posts, RR: 38
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Roni! Good to see another of your trip reports popping up!

Great read as usual accompanied by fantastic pictures.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Please be advised that all pictures in the trip report were taken using a fisheye lens. Whilst I have recently received several suggestions to reduce the quantity of ‘fisheye-effects’, I had already taken all pictures in this TR prior. However, these suggestions have been, and will continue to be taken into consideration in all reports following this. My apologies.

I follow up on PH's comment and say the photos were fine. Again, superb shots of the terminals with the fisheye. Too bad it's outside my budget!

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
“Do NOT take pictures of ANYTHING British Airways ok?”

Never heard anything like this before! It looked like there wasn't anything branding BA inside the lounge either.. After all, it's a sign!

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
The OpenSkies boarding process is quite laid-back. Boarding commences about 45 minutes before the scheduled departure time, allowing passengers to board the aircraft at their own leisure, and never in a rush. You may stick around the airport a little longer, or you may hop on board for a drink or two; it’s your call. This mechanism for a total of a mere 80 passengers is quite unique

That's rather interesting. Quite nice to board when you want!

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
The doors were eventually closed, and pushback occurred at 1:55pm. As I was seating in the ‘opposite’ direction, it felt a little strange to ‘push-front’ during pushback.

Ah yes! How were the flights in general, sitting backwards? Did you find it weird or anything?

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 2):
She informed me that my seat selection has changed due to a last minute equipment change that resulted in the deployment of another aircraft with a different configuration

Hmm.. I was unaware that they had different configs..

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 3):
Pre-Takeoff Lounging

The photo following this heading - is there enough privacy between you and the person sitting next to you?

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Taxiing to the Runway

Makes me wonder what that C-17's about to take..

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 3):
In Bed!

Quite a lot of light towards the background in that shot - did it remain that bright for the entire flight?


Nice food as well. It'd be nice to get a comparison between Open Skies and BA001/002 from LCY sometime (Mark..?  Wink)!


Hope all is well!

Regards,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi Roni!
Thanks for this interesting report. A shame to know that this airline has gone from AMS already a while. Flights have always been operated by either BPEJ or BPEK. You scored both with this trip!
I like the food much more on the outbound flight. It's a big difference compared on your homebound leg. How did you feel flying backwards? I think that I wouldn't like it (but never tried myself yet).
btw, I like the pictures, and don't complain about the fisheye effect. Especially for inside the cabin, it 's a great lens to cover most of it!

Regards,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineLYchemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1237 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I don't like sitting backwards.

Beautiful pictures. What camera do you use?


User currently offlineA1ring23 From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi Roni, another great TR!

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Please be advised that all pictures in the trip report were taken using a fisheye lens. Whilst I have recently received several suggestions to reduce the quantity of ‘fisheye-effects’, I had already taken all pictures in this TR prior. However, these suggestions have been, and will continue to be taken into consideration in all reports following this. My apologies.

Nooooo!! Keep using the fish-eye, i love it!

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
I quickly settled into my seat, and I found it to be one of the most comfortable business class seats I have ever experienced.

What does the width of the seat compare to other J seats? Only reason I ask is that the aisle looks VERY wide.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Meal Tray with Tasty Beef Salad Starter

All the meals look very well presented.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Passing Around a Storm During the Climb

Great shot!

From what it looks like, on the return leg, you were on a forward-facing seat? Did you discern any noticeable difference whilst on the rear-facing seat?

Regards,
Pete



Where's the accelerometer on this thing?
User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2487 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi Roni,

I was pleasantly surprised with this TR! Really enjoyable with an array of beautiful pictures. I do not mind the 'fish-eye effects' either.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
“Do NOT take pictures of ANYTHING British Airways ok?”

What an attitude! Was she having a bad day? Actually I did not have any problem with the lounge attendant about taking picture of the lounge from outside when I was traveling earlier with BA.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
“Do you have a menu?”
“I am sorry sir, but we do not have menus”



Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
“Is there a menu?”
“I am sorry sir, we have not introduced menus yet”

Unfortunately, it never materialized from the flights from AMS.  Sad

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
A Snack Box!

A bit odd, but I would not mind after revealing the contents.  Smile

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Hi there, I’ve seen you before!”
“Yes you have, 5 days ago on the flight from Amsterdam”
“Yes that’s right, welcome back!”

How charming! I reckon that you have had similar experiences with other airlines many times before, haven't you?  Wink

Thank you for sharing, Roni!

Cheers,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8578 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Hi Roni,

Excellent TR, they are on my to fly list,not quite sure when I can though.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Before I entered the lounge, the attendant caught me taking a picture of the entrance with one quick glimpse and she stormed outside and gave me a scolding that made me feel like I was in boarding school.

“Do NOT take pictures of ANYTHING British Airways ok?”

- Utter rubbish!

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
The lounge was quite ordinary for medium/long-haul flights, however since it is a British Airways lounge and not solely for the OpenSkies operation, it served the purpose for intra-European flights. The lounge was absolutely deserted and offered nothing of interest to me in terms of food or beverage, so I left after a few minutes

- The AMS lounge is a bit crap I must admit, given the frequency of fights to LHR/LGW/LCY it could be better.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
he OpenSkies boarding process is quite laid-back. Boarding commences about 45 minutes before the scheduled departure time, allowing passengers to board the aircraft at their own leisure, and never in a rush. You may stick around the airport a little longer, or you may hop on board for a drink or two; it’s your call.

- Like that idea, couple of drinks in your seat getting comfy Smile

Cheers Roni.

Best Wishes

Mark



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User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Dear All,

Thank you for your comments!

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 4):
I'm curious to know how the FA's serve the pax seated in the window seats? It looks like they would have to lean over the aisle-side pax to get to them and it could be awkward?

Hi WNCrew,

It did seem awkward, but more importantly, it was a little more difficult for the crew, as they had to stretch a little further, over the aisle-seated pax. This could be tricky when trying to serve a heavily loaded meal tray.

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 6):
I have read this over and over again and still don´t get it. How did the word "stupid" managed to get in the conversation?



Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 7):
Due to my limited English skills, I'll second that question.



Quoting Richcandy (Reply 9):
“If you tell me like I’m stupid I might take a picture of you later on"

It means " if you ask me bluntly I will take a picture of you later on". In other words just ask and I will do it!

 checkmark  Richcandy you are correct!  Smile

In this case i believe she wanted to know my honest opinion of OpenSkies.

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 6):
I think your fish-eye pictures are fantastic; they make your TR ubique. Keep'em comming!



Quoting Hawaiian452 (Reply 8):
Great TR! Love the fish-eye shots.



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
The fisheye pictures are fine, I cannot complain.



Quoting Wouwout (Reply 11):
I like the fish eye lense pictures



Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
Very nice report but the fish-eye pictures are a bit annoying, I prefer pics with a regular lens.



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
I follow up on PH's comment and say the photos were fine. Again, superb shots of the terminals with the fisheye.



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 14):
I like the pictures, and don't complain about the fisheye effect. Especially for inside the cabin, it 's a great lens to cover most of it!



Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 16):
Nooooo!! Keep using the fish-eye, i love it!



Quoting Akhmad (Reply 17):
I do not mind the 'fish-eye effects' either.

Haha, thanks for all those comments!

I have mixed and matched pictures for my next TR. Let's see how that goes.

Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 7):
I knew BA offers back- and forward seating in J, but it's the actually the first time I really realise that. Must be a quite strange feeling at take off, don't you slip off your seat??



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
But I don't like the arrangement with rear-facing window seats.



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
How were the flights in general, sitting backwards? Did you find it weird or anything?



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 14):
How did you feel flying backwards? I think that I wouldn't like it (but never tried myself yet).



Quoting LYchemsa (Reply 15):
I don't like sitting backwards.



Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 16):
From what it looks like, on the return leg, you were on a forward-facing seat? Did you discern any noticeable difference whilst on the rear-facing seat?

Sorry, i should have commented on this significant point. The initial plan was to try both types of seats, but due to the last minute change of aircraft i ended up having to sit in rear-facing seats on both legs.

This was actually to my advantage, as i loved the rear-facing seats. It did not feel weird during the climb, and that is because the seats are quite reclined when in their fully upright position.

Furthermore, from the location i was seated in, i did not have to twist and turn to get a view of the engine and the wing, it was all right accross from me  Smile

The really weird configuration is the herringbone design however. Tilting sideways-frontwards during climb was annoying. This will be featured in the next TR  Smile

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
many thanks for posting another marvelous trip report - well-written and accompanied by fantastic pictures! I had been wondering for a while how Open Skeis would be like.

Thanks for reading PH!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
But the brand itself is quite weak, anyway.

Very true. They claim that is because they only promote their brand in the markets that they serve.

It does make sense in a way, as they are a point-to-point airline.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
I guess an airshow wasn't available?

Nope! It was a mystery-route all the way to JFK!

Quoting Wouwout (Reply 11):
Regarding you snack box: it's made by Huize van Wely (I can see their logo in the picture), probably the best / most expensive exclusive bakery/fine foods producer in the Netherlands.

Thanks for this information Wouwout. Is it a type of cafe where i can go and have sit-down and order? I'd definitely like to try it out the next time im in AMS!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
Roni! Good to see another of your trip reports popping up!

Great read as usual accompanied by fantastic pictures.

Heya Nicholas! .. When are you going to post another TR!  Smile

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
Never heard anything like this before! It looked like there wasn't anything branding BA inside the lounge either.. After all, it's a sign!

Haha. I've gotten used to being the alien with the big black camera  Smile

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
Hmm.. I was unaware that they had different configs..

I think that started after the L'Avion merger. The seats are all alike, but i think the numbers differ. I presume that we were to get a L'Avion plane and a last minute switch brought back the EC one.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
The photo following this heading - is there enough privacy between you and the person sitting next to you?

With the privacy divider up, you will not even notice there could be a passenger seated next to you. However, the friendly Irish passenger next to me had a little too much to drink, and kept popping his head into my space for a chat  Smile

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
Quite a lot of light towards the background in that shot - did it remain that bright for the entire flight?

I was using the personal reading light. With that, and with the one located on the top of the seat, you can have your own personal in-flight studio  Smile

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
It'd be nice to get a comparison between Open Skies and BA001/002 from LCY sometime (Mark..? )!

Are we talking about Mr. BA319-131?

The perfect candidate for a TR on this new service!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 14):
A shame to know that this airline has gone from AMS already a while. Flights have always been operated by either BPEJ or BPEK. You scored both with this trip!

Hi Airbuseric  Smile

I am quite glad i got my EC experience done right before they took it offline.

It was indeed a very welcome addition for AMS at one point, but i never thought it would have sustained. Amsterdam is normally not a premium market and it is already difficult as it is to find a niche with a Low-Cost Premium product.

I think Brussels may have been a little better for them due to the lack of a solid home carrier.

Quoting LYchemsa (Reply 15):
What camera do you use?

Hi LYchemsa,

I was using a canon 50D

Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 16):
What does the width of the seat compare to other J seats?

Hi A1ring23  Smile

The width of the seat was quite comparable with other new generation seats. It was definitely wider than Etihad's seat, and maybe also Cathay's new herringbone (but i am not really sure).

I was also surprised that the aisle was so wide, and that made the long-haul narrowbody experience even better.

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 17):
I was pleasantly surprised with this TR! Really enjoyable with an array of beautiful pictures

Mr. Suryo! Thanks for stopping by  Smile

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 17):
Unfortunately, it never materialized from the flights from AMS.

That is a total bummer! I am an avid menu collector!

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 17):
A bit odd, but I would not mind after revealing the contents.

Yes indeed, it was my favorite OpenSkies meal actually.

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 17):
I reckon that you have had similar experiences with other airlines many times before, haven't you?

Haha. Yes  Smile

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 18):
Excellent TR, they are on my to fly list,not quite sure when I can though.

Mr. Mark! Good to hear from you.

I think you out of all people must try them!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 18):
Like that idea, couple of drinks in your seat getting comfy

Yes, i know you like your chamagne before takeoff LOL

Greetings to Miss BA319!


Regards,
R



A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6451 posts, RR: 38
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Ronerone (Reply 19):
When are you going to post another TR!

When I go flying again! I'm less fortunate than you - I can't just skip uni and go half way around the world, especially in Business! So once finals are over, I take to the skies over NZ and Australia for a 6 airline (more if you call Pacific Blue different to Virgin Blue and Jetstar different from Jetstar International) marathon which hopefully will be fun both flying these flights and also writing the TRs! Come back in December and hopefully I'll have the time to post them all by Christmas!

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 19):
Haha. I've gotten used to being the alien with the big black camera

I guess I haven't travelled anywhere that exotic to be told not to take pictures with my DSLR  Wink

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 19):
With the privacy divider up, you will not even notice there could be a passenger seated next to you. However, the friendly Irish passenger next to me had a little too much to drink, and kept popping his head into my space for a chat

At least it can be effective I guess.. lol

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 19):
I was using the personal reading light. With that, and with the one located on the top of the seat, you can have your own personal in-flight studio

Whoops sorry, I meant the orange background light - any idea what it is?

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 19):
Are we talking about Mr. BA319-131?

The perfect candidate for a TR on this new service!

Yep, but there's nothing stopping you from trying out BA001/002 as well!  Smile

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 19):
This was actually to my advantage, as i loved the rear-facing seats. It did not feel weird during the climb, and that is because the seats are quite reclined when in their fully upright position.

Was the recline noticable both from when you looked at the seat to when you first sat down in it? I don't like sitting backwards in the bus but a plane isn't as jerky - maybe I'll get to try it out sometime!



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 20):
When I go flying again! I'm less fortunate than you

Hehe .. well all my flying is earned my friend. I work hard, and then play harder!  Smile

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 20):
Come back in December and hopefully I'll have the time to post them all by Christmas!

Looking forward to that!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 20):
Whoops sorry, I meant the orange background light - any idea what it is?

The orange lighting wasn't as strong in reality. Actually, all the pictures that had the strong orange light, were taken in pure darkness. Must be the camera.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 20):
Yep, but there's nothing stopping you from trying out BA001/002 as well!

Definitely not  Smile .. It's already brewing in my mind!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 20):
Was the recline noticable both from when you looked at the seat to when you first sat down in it?

Yes definitely. I actually thought the seat was not fully upright, and tried to adjust it. But that reclining position is how the seat is in its fully upright position.

Regards,
R



A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1037 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

What a precious trip report! Amazing pictures and excellent read. I personally love the fisheye effects.


'He resembled a pilot, which to a seaman is trustworthiness personified.' Joseph Conrad
User currently offlineAirpearl From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 955 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hey Roni, great to see another (or, strictly speaking, it's a continuation) of your trip reports. Excellent as always of course - and I don't think anybody else I know could have made a more eclectic mix of carriers between DXB and ORD if they tried!  Wink I must admit the fisheye works absolute wonders for some of the cabin pics, but not so well on a few of the terminal shots - which of course, means that you'd probably be travelling with 2 (or is it 3?) cameras on your next flights... hehehe

Anyway, I agree it's such a shame about Open Skies, and glad that you managed to catch them before the end of the AMS-JFK run. From the lack of menus, mixed crews and absence of branded amenities, this outfit does look a little testing-the-waters experimental - certainly quite different from the way BA used to do things. Still, I'm glad we are treated to this delightful piece. Thanks again.



Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
Before I entered the lounge, the attendant caught me taking a picture of the entrance with one quick glimpse and she stormed outside and gave me a scolding that made me feel like I was in boarding school.

“Do NOT take pictures of ANYTHING British Airways ok?”

I was not committing a crime and so I did not appreciate her tone of voice, or her attitude.

Wow, that wasn't very nice, was it? I've not met anyone quite like her on my travels, but I am always thinking she's just lurking around the corner, waiting to pounce on me on my next flight... hehehe

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
The OpenSkies boarding process is quite laid-back. Boarding commences about 45 minutes before the scheduled departure time, allowing passengers to board the aircraft at their own leisure, and never in a rush. You may stick around the airport a little longer, or you may hop on board for a drink or two; it’s your call.

How very civilized and what a luxury these days! Have never flown on Concorde but I would imagine this must come close.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
I was hesitant to fly a narrowbody on a transatlantic flight, however the OpenSkies cabin was beautiful and the moment I got a feel for it, I did not think twice.

I never thought of wanting to try Open Skies before but I am now tempted after seeing your pics. The cabin looks really nice. With the staggered seating, it certainly looks more private jet than narrow-body 757.

Quoting Ronerone (Thread starter):
I was trying to find anything that had the OpenSkies logo that I could ‘legally’ take home with me, but found nothing.

Yeah I would have been disappointed too. I would always want some momento from the flight - usually in the premium classes, the menu would be a definite keeper.


User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 32767 times:



Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 22):
What a precious trip report! Amazing pictures and excellent read. I personally love the fisheye effects.

Thanks Luftfahrer! Glad you enjoyed  Smile

Quoting Airpearl (Reply 23):
Hey Roni, great to see another (or, strictly speaking, it's a continuation) of your trip reports. Excellent as always of course - and I don't think anybody else I know could have made a more eclectic mix of carriers between DXB and ORD if they tried!

Hey Mr. Airpearl!

Thanks for reading. .. I think that the mix of carriers i chose was way to eclectic actually LOL. The delays on the return sector rippled all the way to the end where i missed my BI flight (as you already know).

Quoting Airpearl (Reply 23):
I must admit the fisheye works absolute wonders for some of the cabin pics, but not so well on a few of the terminal shots - which of course, means that you'd probably be travelling with 2 (or is it 3?) cameras on your next flights... hehehe

Yea, after trying it differently past two trips, i kind of agree. I used two different lenses, on the same camera, which meant more madness to the eyes of everyone looking at me LOL.

Quoting Airpearl (Reply 23):
but I am always thinking she's just lurking around the corner, waiting to pounce on me on my next flight... hehehe

Watch out, she will definitely bite when she spots the alien with the big black camera!

Quoting Airpearl (Reply 23):
Yeah I would have been disappointed too. I would always want some momento from the flight - usually in the premium classes, the menu would be a definite keeper.

Haha, no worries, i found a way  Smile

If you look through the pics, i basically snatched everything that had an OpenSkies logo on it, minus the safety card and the IFE guide.


Regards,
R



A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
25 LH4116 : Hi there Roni, it's been a while since last! Great report by the way, well written as usual and the pics were astonishingly beautiful as well! Openski
26 EC001 : Hi there Roni, What another great TR!!! I have to admit I was anxiously awaiting for you to posting this trip report! “Do NOT take pictures of ANYTH
27 Ojas : Hi Roni, Another fabulous TR from your desk!!! Good Job. Too bad most flights are no-smoking today I just hope your reply started with a F**k Off! Tot
28 JFKMan : Hmm...looks nice and all....I hope they have things like menus now? I'm also very sad they stopped AMS - JFK service.
29 Ronerone : Mr. Casablancas! Long time indeed! And thanks for dropping by! I don't think so. But don't quote me on this. Soon my friend! Soon! Hi Orian! .. Thank
30 Ryanair!!! : Whatever it is, a snack box it still a snack box. For such a premium product, I would have expected these items to be plated properly. I am very inte
31 SR 103 : As usual, a fantastic trip report. You proved yet again as to why you are one of the best trip reporters on this site. I can only echo those comments.
32 USAirALB : Exact same IFE as US in Envoy on the 757
33 LACA773 : Hi Roni, Thankyou for another wonderful trip report. I like the photos you took as always. The "fisheye" lens on your camera reminds me a bit of a mag
34 Ronerone : Greetings Mr. Ryanair!!! I have to agree with you on this! But still, the quality of the food inside the box was insanely good! There was a dump of s
35 Aaron747 : Roni, I've enjoyed this TR more than virtually any other you've posted. Exuberantly informative and interesting at once. The food is just leaping out
36 SQ772 : Hi Roni, Thanks for another wonderful TR and showing me that there are actually carriers out there that I never knew existed! Time to brush up on my a
37 Ronerone : ' Thanks Aaron747! Glad you enjoyed Heya SQ772! Tsk tsk tsk. An a.netter who doesn't know of OpenSkies? Haven't flown SQ since July, but who knows wh
38 Directorguy : It's your trademark I guess. I like it both ways :p I thought I'd written a reply to this TR but I guess it didn't post. I don't like posting to TRs
39 BA174 : I wonder why the cabin crew are still flying in seperate uniforms too as they have been one airline since March/April now and its not as if they have
40 Flightsimboy : My very first comment on Airliners.net and it goes to you Roni! I've admired your reports for the longest time and am happy to finally comment on one!
41 A340600 : Very nice report, really interesting to read! From someone who's done it, it is indeed very awkward, mind you it's easier than the BA New Club World w
42 Ronerone : Thanks everyone for the comments, and for reviving this TR Welcome to airliners.net Flightsimboy! Thank you for your kind words and for your support!
43 Tonystan : We have been dealing with this seats for years on mainline BA flights. We just whip back the screen between the seats and plop the tray on the table,
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