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La Premiere Air France CDG-HKG OCT09  
User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 19697 times:

continuation from IAH-CDG http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/159475/

OCT09
CDG - HKG
AF184
772 - F-GSPV
Departure gate E35
Scheduled departure / actual departure : 13h40 / 13h46
Wheels up : 14h00
Scheduled arrival / actual arrival : 07h20 / 07h01 +1

This segment will actually be shorter. Sorry for the lack of photos this time but with the cabin being dark I didn’t want to stand out using the flash !

Our lounge agent, one of the same ones who met us on the arrival from IAH, advised us she would accompany us to the gate by foot because the aircraft was on a jetbridge stand right at terminal 2E. It’s kind of hard to describe where the Premiere lounge is. If you have ever traveled through 2E, the elevator which leads up to the mezzanine level where the lounge is situated is to the right after passing through security.

Mme the lounge agent was very friendly and comfortably conversational. She asked if we were able to freshen up and have lunch. I said I was even able to have breakfast too, having saved room to eat two meals in the lounge hehe. We were discreetfully brisked through the crowd at the gate and through the boarding card readers. It was as if there was no one else on the flight. Everything going on around you is a blur.

Both jetbridges were utilized (for once) although it seems that passengers from all classes came through door 1L.

We were presented to the cabin crew by Mme the lounge agent, who wished gave us the ever-so-typical Air France bon voyage and we were directed to our seats 1A and 1E. Two Chinese men were already settled in seats 1F and 1L so P would be full. I opened the overhead I found a used duvet / pillow. I didn’t really know what to do because I am not one to make a fuss, although I really was hoping that was not going to be the duvet and pillow for my seat !

I mustered up the courage to advise the f/a at the door, who would end up working in P. She was floored to discover that the dirty duvet and pillow were still there, saying they had called prior to boarding for them to be removed ! Just as she finished her apologies, someone from the cleaning team showed up and was gone within a matter of seconds. Phew.

A glass of champagne was proposed but since we do not drink alcohol we declined and a glass of orange juice was proposed in its place. The pyjamas and amenities kit followed … more for the collection !

Push back was only 6 minutes late, very good for CDG standards ! Flights for JFK, DXB and PEK were around us but we managed to push before them. We took off on the southern runways …


Terminal 2G :


Once the crew was released we informed our flight attendant of our wish to eat later, since we were full from eating in the lounge ! I wonder if some of them expect that … This was great because our flight attendant proposed to set up our beds even before starting service for the two Chinese men. In any event the Chinese translator on board had to come help them translate for their choices.

I actually fell asleep watching a movie … and woke up with the cabin lights already shut off … how long had I been sleeping ?? 4 hours already !!! Perfect timing for dinner in fact ! I went to the galley to ask our flight attendant if I could eat … to which the answer was “of course !” … she did advise me that one of her colleagues would be looking after me. Without her saying it I knew she was going off to her rest.

Her fellow flight attendant came to greet me and was interested in my all of my choices for lunch (dinner!) and tastefully set my table shortly afterwards.

Lunch à la carte

Mise en bouche (not served)
Cracker topped with orange and goat cheese, langoustine sushi, foie gras with mango and ginger

Choice of hors d’oeuvre
Duck foie gras with glazed chestnuts accompanied by apple chesnut purée


Sautéed scallops flavored with powdered spices and seaweed, fingerling potatoes with vinaigrette

Mushrooms in Melfor vinaigrette, cantal cheese

Fresh seasonal salad

Choice of main course

Felet of beef served with truffle jus complemented by a fennel flan and fennel compote

Sole and scallops with a pisa-style sole sauce accompanied by a rice cake


Lasange with eggplant caviar, tomato and fresh goat cheese
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Plat du jour : curried shrimp sautéed with crushed tomatoes, chilip pepper, onion, garlic and ginger, served with vegetable rice and artichokes flavored with fenugreek

Our special selection of cheese
Camembert, Roquefort, pérail, langres, beaufort

Fresh bakery selection

Dessert cart
Miniature pastries
Chocolate fruitcake, pear cake, apple tartlet
Sherbet served with cookies (green apple sherbet was my choice)
Assortment of fresh fruit

Buffet
Please help yourself at your convenience. If you prefer you may also ask your flight attendant to serve you at your seat.
Asian noodles
Sandwiches
Miniature pastries
Basket of fruit
Haagen-Dazs ice cream

The menu from CDG actually was not too appetizing for me. But this is personal choice ! I noticed a lot of seafood on the menu. I don’t care for scallops (both were on appetizer and main course), shrimp (plat du jour), and fennel … other than that believe me I am not a picky eater ! So unfortunately I did not even have an appetizer 

My friend, who ate even later than I did (and I had fallen back asleep !) said the foie gras was very good. The filets of sole were excellent and the scallops apparently very tender.

For my choice I was pleasantly surprised by the lasagna with eggplant and goat cheese … it came out piping hot the sauce has splattered in the dish as you can see) and was full of flavor.

Dessert followed :
My friend’s choice : chocolate fruitcake … tea service …


Green apple sorbet and apple tartlet … I was afraid that the apple tartlet was going to be some average round tartlet but I was proved wrong. The tart dough was awesome and the apple filling was awesome.
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I was apprehensive about not eating when everyone else did … apprehensive that the quality of service was not going to be the same, that I was going to get the “you’re bothering us” attitude.

On the contrary ! I loved being able to eat when I wanted to (as you always can in Premiere) and I loved how the flight attendant went through the service so naturally … the timing was once again perfect … yes it’s easy and she should not have to ask but I thought it was great how dessert followed without her even having to ask again … the French have a knack for this I think, at least in my experience !

And naturally after dinner I fell back to sleep … the cabin was awake with about 2h30 left …

Breakfast

Orange and kiwi salad with mint
Cereal yogurt
Butter, preserves, and honey
Breakfast pastries
Choice of main course : scrambled eggs with cream, simmered bell peppers, bayonne ham
Caramelized apple tartlet servd with crème fraiche

I went with the savory option … the eggs were kind of strange, but not gross … the mini pain au chocolat were as always yummy … and of course the perfect double Illy espresso in the coffee cup … mmmmm.
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The apple tartlet was like dessert !


The only gripe I have with the second service on AirFrance in Premiere : the tray !

Early arrival in Hong Kong on 07R … view after turning into the gate :
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We were naturally the first ones off the aircraft … immigration was pretty smooth inspite of a few minutes wait … and in Chinese fashion bags were already on the belt by the time we got there. What better could you ask for ?

High-speed train station to Kowloon / Hong Kong :
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All in all a very smooth trip all the way from IAH to HKG. If I had to say, the IAH flight was probably better, if only for the food choices. But again that is personal taste. There is nothing to be said for the Premiere lounge, only accolades. And the Air France inflight service is still up there for me. Both flights were on time. People complain the Premiere seats are not as “private” but I am not complaining, the bed and the duvet are awesome. One word for the new IFE : flawless. I love the abundant choice of films, even on ultra long haul flights you can’t watch more than three films between sleeping and eating.

It’s the “French touch”. I really look forward to the updated Premiere product, it’s about time AirFrance step up to the plate.


Bonjour Chef!
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User currently offlinePadster From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 19313 times:

Great Trip report !

I enjoyed very much reading part 1 and 2 of it !

It was nice to hear that P class was not for once full of non revs !  Smile


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 17979 times:



Quoting Padster (Reply 1):
It was nice to hear that P class was not for once full of non revs !

Hi padster,

I know certain contributors to certain forums have made it a point to publicize these "upgrades" ... anyone could do that with any airline, it just so happens it is AirFrance.

Since the CDG-HKG was a 772 and it was full it would have been hard to put anyone up front ! There must have been a jumpseat because someone was hanging out by the door, but you never would have known unless you went to the lav.

And on the IAH-CDG it was 4 pax out of 8 seats ... no one else was moved though I don't know if there any non-revs at all.

Thank you for reading !



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6715 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 17854 times:

Hi Christopher,

another nice report with great food pictures!

Quoting Flpuck6 (Thread starter):
Lunch à la carte

What kind of Schweppes did you drink? Never seen that before.

Quoting Flpuck6 (Thread starter):
Felet of beef served with truffle jus complemented by a fennel flan and fennel compote

Sole and scallops with a pisa-style sole sauce accompanied by a rice cake

All that looks very tasty!

Quoting Flpuck6 (Thread starter):
Lasange with eggplant caviar, tomato and fresh goat cheese

Interesting stuff, sounds very good.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 17328 times:



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
What kind of Schweppes did you drink? Never seen that before.

PH,

It's called " Schweppes Agrum' " ... play on words with the French word "agrume" which is any citrus fruit ... so it's a citrus-type soda, along the Orangina type, without pulp ... it is gooooood. I don't know if they make that elsewhere ... they must at least in France and the Netherlands because sometimes the can is in Dutch too ...

In the US if there is none left from the flight from CDG the product is replaced with fake orange soda, gross.



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineEwRkId From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 17304 times:

You flew between the 2 cities that I really want to go to!! Esp HKG, how was/is it there? Air France looks like they have a good F product, although the meal looks small, but I guess that is there norm...Good TR, Hope to see the return!!

User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 17244 times:



Quoting EwRkId (Reply 5):
Esp HKG, how was/is it there? Air France looks like they have a good F product, although the meal looks small,

Hi EwRkId,

HKG is awesome. It's a super-city ... crazy ... but awesome ... and clean !!!

I definitely recommend HKG ... it is a mix of Asia and the western world ... you definitely feel like you're in China but it's not that strange because you can get around speaking English.

As for the portions, maybe it's the camera but believe me the portions are not small ... even in J. You're eating an "amuse bouche", appetizer, main course, cheese and dessert ... believe me you're stuffed at the end. For cheese and dessert you can pretty much get as much as you want.

Return trip was in J ... I will be posting that in the near future ...



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2362 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 16446 times:

I love seafood, so this would not be a problem for me. Actually I am a pescetarian, I do not eat meat, so this is very very welcome as opposed to just a vegetarian meal.

I noticed you did not drink, but I was wondering if you remember any of the wines. Pellegrine wonders if they are acceptable for Première.



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineKL642 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 350 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 16373 times:

I read both of your reports and enjoyed them and also looking at your great photos.
Alex


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 15504 times:



Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 7):
but I was wondering if you remember any of the wines. Pellegrine wonders if they are acceptable for Première.

Sorry for the wait, here you go !

Champagne : Louis Roederer Brut Millésimé 2003

Pacherench du Vic-Blih "Vendemiaire" 2003 Alain Brumont - southwestern sweet white wine

Condrieu Invitare 2006 M. Chapoutier - White Rhone Valley

Mercurey 1er crue en Szenay 2005 Antonin Rodet - Red Burgundy

Saint-Emilion Grand Crut Chateau Canon 2004 1er Grand Cru classé - Red Bordeaux



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineHOOB747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14837 times:



Quoting EwRkId (Reply 5):
You flew between the 2 cities that I really want to go to!! Esp HKG, how was/is it there? Air France looks like they have a good F product, although the meal looks small, but I guess that is there norm...Good TR, Hope to see the return!!



Hong Kong is indeed amazing, and a must visit if you love traveling and experiencing new cultures and people. Flpuck6 is correct, the city is a perfect mix of East and West, and a perfect place to dip your toe into the diverse culture that is Asia. Book your trip, and you will have the time of your life!



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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2362 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14164 times:



Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 9):
Sorry for the wait, here you go !

Thank you for the reply, I try to never be rushed so no problem with these things.

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 9):
Condrieu Invitare 2006 M. Chapoutier - White Rhone Valley

 alert   alert   alert   alert  I love anything from Condrieu AOC! (Although if I see Château-Grillet...I will wet myself in glee...)

Most of these wines seem to be in the $60 level...I guess that's decent...but I'd expect more $100 or so really considering the price of F tickets (even discounted ones). What's $500 considering at least 2 people in F (that would mean 5 $100 bottles and having at least one of each opened during the flight)? But on the other hand, the wines do not bother me in the least bit........$20 bottles really would...

I do wonder if they would serve you your own bottle...BYOB style...? I may desire a Krug Clos du Mesnil or say Cristal or Cristal Rosé............if I can find such a thing in duty-free...and I want to pay an inflated airport price.

Quoting HOOB747 (Reply 10):
Hong Kong is indeed amazing, and a must visit if you love traveling and experiencing new cultures and people.

I love HK just as I do Tokyo...oh my gaud I love East Asia...I need to go back and get a break from this monotonous, bland western culture.



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineJetBlue777 From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 1451 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14132 times:

nice TR, the food looks so Delicious! XD


It's a cultural thing.
User currently offlineCarlisle From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 271 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days ago) and read 13971 times:



Quoting Flpuck6 (Thread starter):
Her fellow flight attendant came to greet me and was interested in my all of my choices for lunch (dinner!) and tastefully set my table shortly afterwards.
chocolate fruitcake … tea service …
Green apple sorbet and apple tartlet …

I have one word for the above: DROOL  drool 

A great TR - Thanks for sharing!

Cheers,
Jeremy



"CLEAN PLANES AND DIRTY MARTINIS" (Delta)
User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3191 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13622 times:

Great TR, those pictures really make me hungry, now if only I could prepare a meal like that.  Big grin


you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
User currently offlineJFKMan From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 596 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13395 times:

Great TR! The food looks simply amazing. The service sounds very nice too. The only way to travel?

Thanks!

Tommy

(aka JFKMAN)



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