Dsidious From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 17 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 10877 times:
Hello my Airliner-friends!
I just found an little bunch of old photos from one of my many trips between AMS OSL with SAS, it is actually such a long time ago this pictures was taken that I dont remember witch year, but it think around 2007, and i think it was the 737-400.
This route was originally operated by Braathens, but I think SAS mostly kept the crew and machines on the route, so they had braathens-interior at that time (Recently, I haven't seen any plane have this interior, with 2+3 on that route on business) The seats are ok, great legroom, and my favorite is the side with 2 seats, as you can see, there is a small separator between the seats. On the other side, the middle seat is left "for your comfort" as it says at the headrest-protectors
SAS Shourthall Business
SAS Shourthall Business seperator
The lounge for SAS in AMS is star alliance, its ok, but cold and a bit boring, compared to the fantastic crownlounge to KLM-AirFrance at the same airport, actually, the osl-lounge at osl is better (OSL-lounge is for the non-star alliance- company's) than the sas lounge at osl if you ask me (Though I haven't been in the gold-lounge sas, but the business is quite a disappointment if you ask me)
Star Alliance lounge AMS
Star Alliance lounge AMS 2
Star Alliance lounge AMS 3
This flight, it was only me on business, sometimes it can be quite full, so i was happy- and of course got great service by very nice crew on-board. I was not unattended a second, almost a bit to much The food on this short-haul route is actually excellent, my favorite is the fish, but this one was also good!
SAS Shourthall Business main course
SAS Shourthall Business dessert
SAS Shourthall Business dessert avéc
SAS Shourthall Business dessert avéc avéc
The captain had a funny announcement on the trip through the speakers; "It is funny how calm it is up here in the sky, when it is so terrible weather under us here" Sorry the bad translation. But it was a big storm in Copenhagen, I am happy I didn't go from kastrup that day!
SAS Shourthall Business window
If you have questions, please ask, or comments, go ahead! I am sorry that it is so short this report, and my terrible English, but its mostly for the (Also quite bad) pictures from the trip! Take Care!
Ps76 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10608 times:
Just to say merci for the report/pics etc. Was quite a different airline/route to hear about and the food looks excellent (have yet to fly in business class myself). My flying instructor (I've taken about 4 flights so am a long way from being a pilot myself!) wants to fly for SAS and I can kinda see why, they look like a pretty classy airline. She's half Swedish and speaks Swedish so that probably helps too.
No need to apologise for your English. Came across just fine at least as far as I'm concerned.
Airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4387 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10434 times:
Those were the times! I remember these seats on SK's aircraft. SAS was a great airline back then. And that's history now... sadly.They were among the best carriers in Europe. Today, they are among the worst.
Quoting Ps76 (Reply 1): , they look like a pretty classy airline.
Although it is indeed good in this report, which is very outdated compared to what SK offers today. I think the 'classy' shouldn't be used anymore
btw, I think you will still find the 2-3 layout on their MD80's.
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
Djb77 From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10120 times:
Ah, brings back memories of excellent flights I took on Braathens between AMS and Bergen back in 2001. The food you got in Business looks like what we got in Economy. Excellent, older crew, comfy seats with great legroom!
Dsidious From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9843 times:
Yes, it is maybe true that SAS is not the same as in 2007, but it is the same with mostly other European airlines in these days.. I had a trip on AirFrance and KLM to Tokyo not far ago (Check my trip-reports) And the short-haul service is still better on sas compared to them, expect the lounge What I miss the most on every airline is dedicated business seats, not just more legroom and better food/service.. Bring the big ones back please! Don't you agree?
PS76, the pilots on SAS is very very good and experienced, if you ask me- I have landed in almost impossible conditions, storms, snow and seen the wingtips almost touched the landing-strip from heavy crosswinds and so on, but it seems like the pilots in SAS think it is just another normal day at work, it is quite interesting weather in Norway, especially along the coast.. One of the scariest airports in the world is actually in Norway I saw in the newspapers not long time ago But the pilots are flying very comfortable and stable, and landings are almost perfect most of the time I hope for you and your instructors success, obtaining your goals!
I do hope SAS survive, and get back to the old time classiness if that is a word :p
But the price doesnt match the service you get on business I am afraid..
FlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7477 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9092 times:
Quoting Dsidious (Reply 4): I had a trip on AirFrance and KLM to Tokyo not far ago (Check my trip-reports) And the short-haul service is still better on sas compared to them,
According to the picture I see above, I completely agree.
The service in Business on short/medium European flights on many airlines is becoming a big "joke", no wonder why AF is removing its "Business Class" on those flights as it has nothing to do with Business...
Now the question is : Considering the current economy and the Financial situation of most airlines (including SAS), is it really necessary to offer such a meal service on a 1h1/2 - 2h flight ?
RwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3205 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8630 times:
Nice report! I've been commuting AMS-CPH-AMS the past several weeks and SK is my airline of choice on this route. I really enjoy their service.
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 2): They were among the best carriers in Europe. Today, they are among the worst.
I'm not sure about that. On AMS-CPH-AMS, my choices are KL and SK. I usually fly on fully refundable fares booked on short notice. Here's what I get for my money on these carriers:
SK: Dedicated check-in, fast-trak security line, pre-assigned seat, meal box (with cheese, bread, etc.) and complimentary drinks, seat in a "premium economy" section that is typically much less crowded - 8 out of my 8 last flights, I have had at least an empty middle-seat, if not a fully empty row.
KL: No dedicated check-in, no fast security lane, no assigned seat until check-in, "meals" consist of prepacked cookies or crackers. Yesterday I was cursing myself as I took my middle seat at the end of the aircraft, waiting in security at CPH for 30 minutes, and eating my package of crackers, thinking of everything I was missing out on by not flying SK. KL also charges about EUR 75 more for a refundable fare than SK does.
Clearly for the business traveller flying on a flexible ticket, SK offers a much superior product with their premium economy benefits. To be fair, I have not flown SK long-haul.
Freeman300 From Sweden, joined Jul 2008, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8610 times:
Well nice report. I also think that SAS C on the short trips Europe-Scandnavia 1.5 - 2.5 hours are great both in service and comfort. It more time for service compared to 55 min OSL ARN CPN connections.