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Australian E-Jets: To Canberra With DJ (pics)  
User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11110 times:

Fast Facts

Date: Tues, 18 November 2009
Route(s): Brisbane (BNE) – Canberra (CBR), Canberra (CBR) – Sydney (SYD)
Airline: Virgin Blue
Aircraft: E-190 and E-170

BACKGROUND

My appreciation for the cute little E-jets from Brazil increases all the time. Fast, sleek and super comfy, my last few E-170 flights have been great. I can’t get enough of the E-170 and the purpose of my short day trip from Brisbane to the nation’s capital, Canberra, then onto Sydney, and finally back to Brisbane, was to ride both the E-190 (my first) and also E-170 operated by Virgin Blue. This trip report covers the first part of the journey, from Brisbane to Canberra. The second part, which I will post separately, covers the Canberra - Sydney sector.

THE DAY ARRIVES

The day dawned hot, very hot. Although it was only mid November, the weather in South Eastern Australia had been incredibly warm for the time of year. Today was going to be no different. Brisbane was expecting a 35 C day (95 F) with lots of blue sky and sunshine. My much needed short trip to Australia was for a number of reasons, but it also gave me a chance to thaw out, and dry out from the dreadful English autumn weather I left behind in London.

An early rise for my trip to Brisbane domestic Airport (BNE) meant I was at the airport in good time for my 915am flight to Canberra. In fact, I managed to get about 2 hours spotting time before the boarding call was made. Sunrise at this time of the year is early, so by 7am, the light was incredibly bright, and perfectly good for pics.

Some scenes from BNE , with Qantas and Virgin Blue aircraft getting ready for their domestic departures. Qantas has a number of B767-300s departing early in the am operating services to Sydney, Perth and I recall one of these at Gate 22, VH-OGO was heading to Darwin, with a flying time at just over 4 hours, whilst not much for the 767, but long enough for a domestic sector.

VH-OGO being prepared for service to Darwin

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View of the Qantas domestic gates

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One of the remaining QF fleet of classic 737s being prepared for its next service at 7am, local time.

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One of the newer Qantaslink Dash 8 400s, VH-QOT, arriving from a destination in regional Queensland.

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Some action over at the Virgin Blue gates.

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VH-ZPI ready for another domestic hop.

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A couple of BNE departures from Runway01

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VH-VQJ of Jetstar launches into the Brisbane sky

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A few international arrivals also making their presence known at this time of the morning.

Nice to see ZK-NCJ now with winglets

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After roaming up and down the concourse, I plonked myself down for a coffee and breakfast at one of the numerous café places. This one had a view overlooking my gate, so I stayed there for a bit, eagerly awaiting the arrival of my E-190 which would operate DJ1212 to Canberra. Just over 40 mins before the scheduled departure time of 915am, my little E-jet turned up from Rockhampton and parked at Gate 40.

Today, VH-ZPC "Jilla Blue" would be operating the flight to Canberra.

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We were called for boarding not long after, and although it looked to be a fairly full flight, I was lucky to have the seat next to me vacant for the 1.5 flight south. Some views from the nice big window. First impressions were good. Consistent with all my other E-170 experiences, the cabin interior was immaculate, spacious and comfortable. Seat pitch was also good. Embraer has certainly created an incredibly spacious interior. The E-190 is noticably larger on the outside, but it felt pretty much the same as the E-170 inside - a bit like being on any of the Airbus narrowbodies I suppose - you can't really tell that much from the inside.

Doors were closed and we pushed back from the gate on time. The safety instruction was then given by the 3 cabin crew, all of whom looked great and were friendly and relaxed – just what you would expect from Virgin Blue (I have flown with them from the first month they started operations in 2000). I had a quick peek at the inflight magazine whilst waiting to push back, which was celebrating 100 editions of “Voyeur”. Well done Virgin Blue!

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Departures today from BNE were off Runway 01. This meant a nice taxi down toward the International Terminal. Although I was on the wrong side of the aircraft to see anything at the IT, we were 3rd in line for departure – behind another Virgin Blue aircraft and a Qantas 737-800. A short hold as a China Airlines A330-300 arrived from Taipei, and it was our turn to depart.

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Our turn - ready to go !

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Passing the GA freight apron - only a few aircraft on the ground that morning.

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Our departure and climb out was smooth and I had some great views as we left Brisbane behind, climbing out over Moreton Bay, and then banking to the right for a gradual turn and then a more southerly heading.

Passing over the cross runway at BNE

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Passing over the south eastern suburbs of Brisbane with Stradbroke Island in the distance

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Meal service onboard consisted of the usual BOB – here is the cover. Great to see DJ are promoting the aircraft type. I did not buy anything, having stuffed my face earlier in the morning.

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Our routing today was unclear as we hit clouds some 20 mins into the flight. Our flight time down to Canberra was scheduled for 1 hour 30 mins, which I guess took us mostly inland over South Eastern Australia, although about 40 mins out of CBR, I was surprised to see the coastline! I wondered whether we had been routed outside of the Sydney area to avoid congestion with arriving and departing aircraft from that airport, but soon enough we were heading back inland.

About mid way through the flight, the cockpit crew made a short annoucement welcoming everyone onboard and told us what the weather and conditions were going to be like in Canberra for our arrival. Sunny skies and a high of 26 degrees were forecast. Excellent!

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Some descent pictures into CBR. The landscape was looking very dry in parts, not uncommon at this time of the year. Not much in the way of urbanisation down there. It's pretty much all farm land with the odd small town. I love looking out of the window at the landscapes in Australia. It's such an incredibly diverse, ancient land.

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Touchdown into Canberra was smooth and after rolling off the end of the runway, a short backtrack to the gate, and the trip was over.

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Welcome to Canberra - where there's lots of airport construction going on to improve the existing terminal facilities. The captain was right - it was a glorious day in Canberra.

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I was in Canberra for a couple of hours before heading to Sydney. Canberra has become quite a hub for the E-jets of Virgin Blue. When I was there, I counted 3 or maybe 4 E-jets coming and going. I also managed to get some pics of "Jilla Blue" pushing back and heading back up to Brisbane.

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Of course you could not be Australia's capital city without seeing at least one Qantas aircraft! Here is a delayed B737-400 flight inbound from Melbourne.

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This is where Part 1 ends. My positive feelings about the E-jets were only cemented after this experience. The flight was excellent in every respect. Virgin have really done well to incorporate these jets into their fleet. I wish them continued success. My next flight, on "Little Miss Sunshine Coast" to Sydney will feature in Part 2. Hope you enjoyed the report. Any comments are of course welcome.


Eastern - Number One To The Sun
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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11074 times:

Hi, Palmjet,

what a nice read and what a weather change from autumn in Europe to long days and blue skies in Australia, well done.

I´ve logged also some E70/75/90 machines,
but usuallay prefer the soon-to-be-phased-out stuff.
Neverthless the E-Jets offered some great advantages, like to fly them also.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10972 times:

Markus - thanks v much for your comments. The contrast between London and Brisbane was extreme. The light in Australia is dazzling at this time of year, particularly coming from northern Europe! I also like aircraft that are on the way out, but for some reason, have developed an attachment to the little E-jets ! Thanks again P/J


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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10935 times:

Hi Palmjet,

Nice TR, thanks for posting. You beat me to it! I'm about to start writing up my series of TRs around Australia and it included a CBR-SYD too.. I flew a week after you did.

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
The second part, which I will post separately, covers the Canberra - Sydney sector.

Do you think a 25 minute flight is long enough for a separate TR?  Wink

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
The E-190 is noticably larger on the outside, but it felt pretty much the same as the E-170 inside

Good to know that I didn't really miss out on much for not getting the E90 as my flight from MEL-CBR was operated by a 73G.


Looks like you chose a good day to fly - when I went, it was mainly cloudy wherever I went so I didn't get to see that much.

Regards,
Nicholas



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User currently offlineSlats From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 10650 times:

Great trip report! I will have to try out the E-170 & E-190 at some stage.


slats
User currently offlineBedo From Spain, joined Jul 2009, 57 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10151 times:

Nice trip report!!

The only thing that i could say it's that i miss some pics from the interior, i would like to see how virgin blue decorates theirs Brazilian birds!!!

Thank you for sharing



bedo
User currently offlineCanadiantree From France, joined Jun 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10147 times:

Hi Palmjet,

Very neat report, makes me dream about visiting Australia one day!

The ERJ 190 series is probably my favorite, they look so sleek!!! he only airline I flew that had them was Air Canada. And they had PTV's on each seat. I would definitely choose those any day over any other Regional jet, or even the A320 series just for the 2-2 seating...

Keep 'em coming!  Smile

William


User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10118 times:

Thanks guys for your replies. I did take an interior pic on the next sector from Canberra to Sydney on the E-170. The interiors of both the E-170 and 190 are the same on DJ.

Completely agree - the 2-2 seating arrangement is so spacious. Much prefer that to the 3 - 3 on other narrowbodies.



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User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9723 times:

As a CBR local, I love the fact we get so many E-jets these days. Not only are they far more comfortable than the 737s or Q400s, but they have enabled new routes to be opened up including CBR-TSV and CBR-HBA.

These days I choose to fly Virgin over Qantas just to fly the E-jets!

You noticed all the construction at CBR Airport. We can't wait until the new terminal is finished (will also have an international terminal included) - first stage will open mid next year but the completed terminal will be finished in mid 2012.

See: http://www.canberraairport.com.au/air_newTerminal/new_terminal.cfm and look at the links with photos, fly-through etc.


User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9496 times:

aussie - thanks v much for the CBR update.

Sounds like CBR has really benefitted from the arrival of the E-jets, including the new flights you mentioned. BA Cityflyer are hoping to do similar things with their E190 fleet when they start to come online next year - and are looking at new routes out of LCY that might be viable with the E190 (and 170).



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1692 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9406 times:

Glad you liked the E-jet to CBR !!!

They become quite popular overhere in Europe too...

Lovely plane - very sexy nose  Smile



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8588 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 9211 times:
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Hi Palmjet,

Nice report & pictures, nice and enjoyable, especially from a wet and cold London!

I've only had 3 flights on the E170/190 series but these aircraft are a firm favorite regional plane, much nicer that the planes they compete with from Canada........

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineJHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 9171 times:

Great report. I really liked the inflight photos.


RUSH
User currently offlineVSMike From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 318 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9073 times:

Palmers,

Isn't "plonking" illegal in Australia? Having just been Down Under myself, I'm pretty sure Immigrations has posters hung in the arrivals hall warning foreigners (like myself) not to engage in any illicit plonking, potentially-plonking activities, or plonking-esque behavior.

And while I'm at it, I'm fairly certain that aircraft photography in Australia is also a crime. God knows in both Greece and Southampton, UK it is. Operation Rainbow (haaaaay) says so... and I've got the papers to prove it! Best be careful where you aim that thing.

Otherwise, good report. Would have loved to see some pics of the flight crew, other passengers, and the carpet of EMB. So few spotters care about carpet colour... and I'm under the impression that the colour on the outside should match the rug. Its only natural.

OK, keep up the goodish work. I revel in your delights - often to the point of dizziness.

-VSM (now, VXM)



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9029 times:



Quoting VSMike (Reply 13):
And while I'm at it, I'm fairly certain that aircraft photography in Australia is also a crime.

Please explain? Inside or out? I would definitely not go as far as saying it's a crime. Look out for my trip reports later this month and it'll have plenty of pics from around the airport and on planes.

And also, what's plonking?



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User currently offlineVSMike From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 318 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8842 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 14):
Please explain? Inside or out? I would definitely not go as far as saying it's a crime.

My apologies for not being clearer. I will break down my own idiocy:

I'm a firm believer that many years ago, thankfully-ex-US President GW Bush was speaking in code aimed directly at Aircraft Spotters: Australia, Greece, and only certain parts of the UK make-up the present-day Axis of Evil. This Axis is notorious for disallowing people with functioning eyeballs and a love of aviation to cast their glare -or- turn their camera upon aircraft. Verboten. And since Southampton is a sister city of Canberra, I figured that Operation Rainbow (a real, clever code name the tightly-leather-clad local police use for issuing legal citations to plane spotters at SOU, and then not actually doing anything about it) was alive and well in Australia, too.
But if its not, I do stand corrected. All I know is that when I was cited under Operation Rainbow at SOU (this is the true part...), I told the police that if they wanted to confiscate my camera or media card, they'd be welcome to - from the kung-fu grip of my lifeless body.

Friggin' Axis of Evil.

Now to "plonking".
Gizoogle defines "plonking" as: "Throwing ones self violently downward into the seated position whilst holding a cuppa extremely hot coffee, tea or soup. If you spill hot liquid on yourself, you lose.


All the best,
VSM



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User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8799 times:

Great report, love the domestic Australian trips, pics are great aswell.

User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8760 times:

Interesting read. Great pictures and weather in Australia! The e-jets are very nice, completely agree with you there.

Would love to fly with Virgin Blue one day. Or just in Australia, for that matter.


User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2500 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8719 times:

Hi Palmjet,

We definitely share the same passion.... the E-jets! The difference is that I have never been on one.  Sad

I enjoyed your lovely pics of Australia very much. It has been two years ago that I visited the country. I think it is about time to go down under again.

Thank you for sharing.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineA1ring23 From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8668 times:

Another interesting TR Palmjet, thanks!

Great pix to accompany the text too!

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
My positive feelings about the E-jets were only cemented after this experience. The flight was excellent in every respect. Virgin have really done well to incorporate these jets into their fleet. I wish them continued success.

Spot on. DJ is a great airline. Can't wait to get on an E-Jet.

Looking forward to Part 2.

Cheers,
Pete

[Edited 2009-12-07 09:46:21 by a1ring23]


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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8574 times:



Quoting VSMike (Reply 15):
I'm a firm believer that many years ago, thankfully-ex-US President GW Bush was speaking in code aimed directly at Aircraft Spotters: Australia, Greece, and only certain parts of the UK make-up the present-day Axis of Evil. This Axis is notorious for disallowing people with functioning eyeballs and a love of aviation to cast their glare -or- turn their camera upon aircraft. Verboten. And since Southampton is a sister city of Canberra, I figured that Operation Rainbow (a real, clever code name the tightly-leather-clad local police use for issuing legal citations to plane spotters at SOU, and then not actually doing anything about it) was alive and well in Australia, too.
But if its not, I do stand corrected. All I know is that when I was cited under Operation Rainbow at SOU (this is the true part...), I told the police that if they wanted to confiscate my camera or media card, they'd be welcome to - from the kung-fu grip of my lifeless body.

Interesting. I'm led to believe that Australia is more lenient than New Zealand on this issue after spotting in both areas.

Quoting VSMike (Reply 15):
Now to "plonking".
Gizoogle defines "plonking" as: "Throwing ones self violently downward into the seated position whilst holding a cuppa extremely hot coffee, tea or soup. If you spill hot liquid on yourself, you lose.

Hahahahaha I say it's much easier when you put the coffee on the table first then plonk yourslef down  Wink



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User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8535 times:

No worries about photography and spotting in Australia EXCEPT not towards or at Defence installations. Thus at Canberra Airport for example, you are safe to spot and shoot anywhere, except towards the Defence VIP facility (the big hangar and apron where the BBJs and CL604s sit, and VIP terminal next to it).

User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8429 times:

Ha ha - VSX Mike or is that VXS Mike? I am confused. Your "eyeball" insights are as usual, a pleasure to read. Almost as pleasurable as Publix in many respects.

Aussie - oops, I pointed my camera at an arriving 737 BBJ that landed in front of me when I was in CBR. Thankfully no unwanted attention from the authorities. I've never had any probs re pics in Australia, apart from in Brisbane at the International Terminal about 6 years ago - I think that was a one off!

Thanks all for your comments. I will post the remainder of the report from Canberra - Sydney in the coming days. This was on E-170, "Little Miss Sunshine Coast".



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