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Istanbul Sabiha´s New Terminal And Pegasus  
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12433 times:

Istanbul Sabiha´s new terminal and Pegasus Arlines


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Merhaba again, dear readers,

these story continues my experience in Turkey,
part one covered the outbound flight and hotel/area pics

The Sun Express B752W To Antalya (by FLIEGER67 Dec 2 2009 in Trip Reports)

TK and also XQ offered connections from AYT to STR,
but Pegasus seems the most interesting one, aircraft wise.
The fare was ok with around 50.-- Euro´s per leg, so quickly booked.






Monday, 23.11.2009

Antalya-Havalimani, Sunny, Temperature 14 degrees
http://www.sabihagokcen.aero/files/logos/yanLogo_en.jpg
Sunny, Temperature 12 degrees
Duration: No info announced
1 hour, 5 minutes actual

Service H9 141 operated by Pegasus Airlines
Scheduled: 08.20 // 09.25
Actual: 08.45 // 09.50
Gate: 3 Seat: 4A
Load factor: Near 100%


My cellphone called me pretty early that monday morning, 5.00 am in turkey, 4.00 am in germany.
The hotel prepared a snack bag for me and around 6.00 am I´ve checked out and take another
"taksi" express back to the airport.
AYT operates three terminals, two international used, always good for some confusion around the pax
and these two buildings are not in walking distance and also not connected by a bus shuttle.
Good work by the taxi lobby here.
And finally AYT is nowadays the 30th busiest airport around the world in terms of international pax numbers, I´am impressed.
There is a third terminal for domestic flights only.
It seems that was the original terminal here, pretty oldfashioned, building work all around and much to small for all that domestic flights nowadays.
Check-in on the ground level, thankfully only some pax in front, two desks open, the male agent not very helpfull here.
OLCI is only for domestic flights available on Pegasus´s website.
I´ve asked for window last row, as usual and was proudly presented with seats 4A and 2A and much better, the agent told me
that he can´t do any seat changes, the choice between window and aisle was my only decision. True ?, who knows.
Two small security checkpoints prior to the upper level stairs, crowded, but only some five minutes to wait. Four gates only, all shops closed and only two small coffee bars open.
Worn out fake leather seaters, but thankfully nice views to the apron.

Inside:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901072.jpg

Departures:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901069.jpg

Domestic apron:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901060.jpg

The other side:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901061.jpg

Anadolu Jet bound for Ankara:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901063.jpg

Onur MD, rear stairs open:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901064.jpg

Another view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901066.jpg

Pegasus departure:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901067.jpg

To the runway:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901068.jpg

Tailwind B734:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901070.jpg

Another angle:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901071.jpg

I should try OHY to IST:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901073.jpg

Istanbul, both Ataturk and Sabiha dominates on the screen, operated by Turkish, Sun Express, Onur, Atlasjet and finally Pegasus.
Real good for some confusion around the non-frequent-flyers, I saw an elderly turkish couple during my time there, which joined three queues for Istanbul and was finally on my flight.
The days prior to my travel dates saw long delays especially at IST due to weather reasons, fog and also at SAW.
My later flight to STR had two to three hours delay Friday and Saturday.
What do you mean with that information and no gate on the screen for the service to SAW at the announced boarding time?.
People going nervous, but no staff seen or information at all.

My machine:
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Nicely painted:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901075.jpg

Well, BEKO, who knows this company?:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901076.jpg

Departures again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901079.jpg

Around the original departure time the gate showed up, followed by the usual rush and soon thereafter the BEKO logojet arrived.
My service was operated during booking some four weeks ago with an leased Tailwind Airlines B737-400.
But these plane was also acceptable.
TC-AAD a 737-500 delivered at 20.02.1998 to Rio Sul from Brazil and joined the Pegasus fleet at 04.07.2006.
Pegasus operates three machines on type.
Leg no. 28 for me on the 735 and a new registration for my log.

At the gate:
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Ground handling:
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Engine view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901081.jpg

Boarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901082.jpg

No airbridges here at AYT domestic, the plane parked in front off the gate and all the pax had to go downstairs and above the apron.
Boarding was called very quickly after arrival.

Boarding again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901083.jpg

And once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901084.jpg

Three friendly females on that service, a much nicer cabin crew than on Sun Express yesterday.
The cabin fitted with dark blue leather seats, legroom ok and let me say, really well used.

Cabin:
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My seat:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901103.jpg

Again:
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More details:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901105.jpg

Domestic terminal:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901085.jpg

Terminal 2:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901086.jpg

Taxi around terminal 2:
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Departure from the 3400 meters runway 36R, no route info, cruise level 24000 feet only.

And from above:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901088.jpg

Terminal 1:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901089.jpg

Service was buy on board, nothing for free.

Above Anatolia:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901091.jpg

Dry country:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901092.jpg

Cockpit crew was turkish, no comment from the FO, but detailed informations from the pilot inflight and once again short prior to appraoch. SAW had again fog in the morning and therefore the earlier inbound flight was late.
Experienced LHR travellers know what´s going on when the plane doing some curves not that high during the approach.
The captain announced some ten minutes holding prior finals into SAW.

Holding near SAW:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901093.jpg

Once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901094.jpg

And once again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901095.jpg

Touchdown finally on the 3000 meters runway 24 with lots of interesting metal on the apron.

ACT A300 and Meridian DC8:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901096.jpg

Four holes at the rear?:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901097.jpg

Nice colours:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901098.jpg

The new terminal:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901099.jpg

Deta Air IL62:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901100.jpg

Aerorent Tu154B2:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901101.jpg

Parked beside:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901102.jpg

Disembarking:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901106.jpg

My machine at SAW:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901107.jpg

Close up:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901108.jpg

And again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901109.jpg

Well, anyone remember the issues at LHR T4, SAW opened its new terminal only some days ago.
Bus deboarding, but sorry, no bus available according to the purser, we had to wait some ten minutes in the plane till it was our turn.






Monday, 23.11.2009
http://www.sabihagokcen.aero/files/logos/yanLogo_en.jpg
Sunny, Temperature 19 degrees

Partly cloudy, Temperature 8 degrees
Duration: 2 hours, 45 minutes announced
2 hours, 40 minutes actual

Service H9 321 operated by Pegasus Airlines
Scheduled: 10.55 // 12.50 1 hour time difference
Actual: 12.00 // 13.40
Gate: 304A Seat: 2A
Load factor: Around 60%


The transfer desk in the secured area was not staffed, some pax going upstairs following a sign "Transfer", but I´ve waited till
airport staff walked by and told me that I was in the domestic area. No way to go in the secured area from domestic arrivals to international departures.

SAW new terminal:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901110.jpg

Impressive:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901111.jpg

Departures:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901112.jpg

And again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901113.jpg

That means out in the public, ok so far to catch some pics and joining the long queue at passport control.
Two queues there, turkish citizens and all others, the turkish queue longer than the other, some 15 minutes to wait with police checking the visas and else in every detail.
The guy infront hold a turkish passport and as far as I followed the conversation, the police officer send him back all the way to the end of the turkish queue while he had no list with visa requirements for turkish citizens at his desk.
Not a minute for me, bording time was gone and downstairs to, so it seems, the bus gates.
Have you ever experienced going down the escalator with lots of people at the end which cant walk away?. A somewhat strange situation.
At the end of the escalator was the security check for the bus gates, masses of people around, orderly queues?, not here at SAW. And the whole process going really slowly foreward with the staff absolutely overtaxed.
Lots of delays on the screen, my flight shows boarding as long as I´ve waited there.
Finally through and at the gate, but no boarding at all. The waiting area crowded with lots of delayed flights,
for example Pegasus to Ercan running two and a half hour late and continuing calling for lost pax.
Also Air Arabia to Sharjah was served here.

More interesting planes:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901114.jpg

And some more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901115.jpg

Another PGT machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901116.jpg

Apron view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901117.jpg

Departures again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901118.jpg

And with my flight:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901119.jpg

More delays:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901120.jpg

The friendly girl at the gate told me, that we will wait some more minutes till boarding.
Finally the gate opened, but remember the arrival, no bus available for some ten minutes more.
The bus goes in direction TC-AAD, hopefully not another flight on this machine.
I´ve checked STR´s homepage from the free hotel internet stations and saw an A319 scheduled.
During booking was also the Izair A319 mostly on this route.
TC-AAD pushed back and we approached TC-APR, definitely not the Izair A319.
A classic 737-400, delivered at 19.05.1990 to Futura, going to South America with Transbrasil at 12.11.1997, back to Futura at
29.05.1998 and with Pegasus since 20.04.2004.
Pegasus operates only two 734´s.
Leg no. 13 for me on type and another new registration.
Well, that machine shows its age, several patches, missing paint and else.

My machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901121.jpg

Close up:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901122.jpg

The tail:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901123.jpg

Boarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901124.jpg

Deta once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901125.jpg

Apron view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901126.jpg

Engine closeup:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901127.jpg

The nose:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901128.jpg

And now boarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901129.jpg

A real friendly welcome from the FA´s, in total four females on that machine.
Let me say, I was not unhappy with that seat, 1A gone missing and so I had no seat in front, perfect legroom here.
Should I change my choice with the seats?.

Legroom:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901142.jpg

Cabin view:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901143.jpg

My seat:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901146.jpg

The cabin shows all signs of a heavy used one, somewhat dirty, people with thousands of bags in the cabin, unbelievable.
A real friendly welcome from the well experienced captain while taxi, I saw him during late boarding, he´s doing the walkaround. He told us about airport operational reasons for the delay.

Aerorent still there:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901130.jpg

The three holer:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901131.jpg

Once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901132.jpg

Departure from runway 24 like arrivals, rattling and shaking, real flying here.

Just departed:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901134.jpg

No fog at IST:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901135.jpg

IST details:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901136.jpg

Once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901137.jpg

Directly above:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901138.jpg

Leaving IST:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901139.jpg

No route info, flight level 31000 feet.

Inflight:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901140.jpg

Leaving the alps:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901144.jpg

Service was buy on board.

The magazine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901141.jpg

The flight was calm for the first hour, than we experienced a heavy shake and the seatbelt sign was on for some 30 minutes.
STR weather forecast shows me gusting winds up to 60 km/h. The flight was shaking for the whole time and the seatbelt sign was
off for some 15 minutes only and later on again till arrival into STR.
Approach for STR´s 3345 meter runway 25 started pretty early and was despite the announced wind situation nothing special.

My machine at STR:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/TR0901/TR0901147.jpg

Touchdown nearly an hour late, a real friendly bye-bye from the lead FA, finger deboarding, not that long to wait for my bag
and on the way back home.

So, SAW, nice from a design point of view and overall good looking, in details and operational still a lot of things to do there.
Pegasus, good fare, friendly pilots and also cabin staff, relaxed atmosphere.
Interesting metal here and no problem to go again with Pegasus, always good for some last minute aircraft changes.

And further, some aviation wise calm weeks around christmas and early next year bound to try another North African airline
and some classic metal on the way back to Europe.

Comments welcome,
Markus (FLIEGER67)


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27 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12375 times:

Hi Markus,

once again a very nice report and good pictures. Your impressions of the new terminal at SAW were interesting - the building looks quite impressive indeed.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Istanbul, both Ataturk and Sabiha dominates on the screen, operated by Turkish, Sun Express, Onur, Atlasjet and finally Pegasus.

Wow, what a huge variety of carriers on that domestic route! I wouldn't have expected that.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The captain announced some ten minutes holding prior finals into SAW.

At least it offered you some very nice views to the area and the coastline.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Have you ever experienced going down the escalator with lots of people at the end which cant walk away?. A somewhat strange situation.
At the end of the escalator was the security check for the bus gates, masses of people around, orderly queues?, not here at SAW.

Not the best organization. But maybe things will get better when staff gets more experiences with the new terminal.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
IST details:

Great pictures!

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12306 times:
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Hi Markus,

Real nice follow up to outbound flight.

SAW looks great from a spotter point of view, some real interesting aircraft there.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The hotel prepared a snack bag for me

- Nice of them.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
AYT is nowadays the 30th busiest airport around the world in terms of international pax numbers, I´am impressed

- Really, amazing!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´ve asked for window last row, as usual and was proudly presented with seats 4A and 2A and much better, the agent told me
that he can´t do any seat changes

- Yikes, somebody stole your seat!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlinePlunaCRJ From Uruguay, joined Nov 2007, 574 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12200 times:

What a nice TR, I enjoyed reading it.

That is one nice Tu154 parked in SAW!

The new terminal looks very nice, quite airy. It has a feeling of a big train terminal, doesn´t it? Nice building.

A shame transitting through it wasn´t very smooth... well, that is what is expected of new terminals. I hope MVD's new terminal entry into service is as smooth and trouble free as possible.

Regards,


User currently offlineReifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12160 times:

Hi Markus,

I was looking forward to that second part. Although SAW's new terminal looks like 20 years old from the outside, inside it's rather fine. Their old terminal is quite mordern, but way too small. Especially around 3 am when there are 5 or 6 simlatenous flights leaving to Germany (X3, 4U and U2) it's a mess and queues go through all the waiting area and some times they call boarding and the back of the queue didn't even passed passport control! That will be much better. SAW's old terminal is not nice to wait long until the flights in the early morning leaves.

So you bought the whole AYT-SAW-STR-flight in one ticket right? Nevertheless they didn't gave you the boarding pass for SAW-STR in Antalya, right? Was the luaguage checked through at least?


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12118 times:

Hey, good to read you´re comments.

@Christoph:

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 1):
once again a very nice report and good pictures. Your impressions of the new terminal at SAW were interesting - the building looks quite impressive indeed.

Thank you and also my impression.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 1):
Wow, what a huge variety of carriers on that domestic route! I wouldn't have expected that.

Me, too, especially that OHY MD looks like another reason to go.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 1):
At least it offered you some very nice views to the area and the coastline.

Definitely, no complaints.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 1):
Not the best organization. But maybe things will get better when staff gets more experiences with the new terminal.

Hopefully.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 1):
Great pictures!

Thanx again.

@Mark:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
Real nice follow up to outbound flight.

SAW looks great from a spotter point of view, some real interesting aircraft there.

Thank you and absolutely interesting.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
Nice of them.

Definitely.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
- Really, amazing!

I´ve checked it twice, but it seems true.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
- Yikes, somebody stole your seat!

They should stick "Occupied for A.netters" on it!.

@PlunaCRJ:

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 3):
What a nice TR, I enjoyed reading it.

That is one nice Tu154 parked in SAW!

Thank you and also my impression about that Tu 154.

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 3):
The new terminal looks very nice, quite airy. It has a feeling of a big train terminal, doesn´t it? Nice building.

A shame transitting through it wasn´t very smooth... well, that is what is expected of new terminals. I hope MVD's new terminal entry into service is as smooth and trouble free as possible.

I´ve never expected anything else like this.
All the best with operations at MVD, I hope we will read also something more about it.

@Reifel:

Quoting Reifel (Reply 4):
I was looking forward to that second part. Although SAW's new terminal looks like 20 years old from the outside, inside it's rather fine. Their old terminal is quite mordern, but way too small.

Thanx for you´re comment.
At first I was not sure, which one the new terminal is.

Quoting Reifel (Reply 4):
So you bought the whole AYT-SAW-STR-flight in one ticket right? Nevertheless they didn't gave you the boarding pass for SAW-STR in Antalya, right? Was the luaguage checked through at least?

One booking, both boarding passes at AYT, bag checked trough, but no seat change.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2163 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12068 times:

Hi Markus
Another great report from you. Always enjoy reading them to pass the time. Looking forward to your next report. Thanks for posting.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12065 times:

Hi Markus,

thanks for this interesting read. With PGT's large fleet of B738's you made me think again, how did he manage to get on that B735 and B734. Pegasus' smallest subfleets, and you got on it  Wink Well done!
Nevertheless, the Onur MD88 would be more special, not to talk about all the Russian stuff.
Thanks for the good pics from Ataturk airport. I'll go there for some photography in spring, flying LX again... and also that airport secures for really interesting traffic.
Did the crew sit on the crewseats on the STR bound flight? Were they ok with you taking pictures?

Regards,
Eric



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27000 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12037 times:

Hi Markus,
Another great report. This last week is cetainly Turkish TR month lol...Some nice unique metal. I would love you to do Anadolu Jet and report it . I thought Aerorent was a joke until I saw your photo's. Who are they?

Nice choice of cover of Pegasus magazine  Big grin  Wink

Chat soon

Philip


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11611 times:

Hi Markus,

More of the good stuff. Very interesting read. As you know, Pegasus is another carrier in my next spring's schedule - so good to know something beforehand.

AYT seems to have a rather impressive mix of carriers not seen in Europe that often.

That new terminal in SAW looks nice, but the operation seemed to be in shambles. I guess it is to be expected with a new terminal and all. Just look at how long it took to get LHR T5 up to speed...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My seat:

Hmm, this picture was taken after landing in SAW, right? That's definitely a Tupolev undercarriage in the window.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Have you ever experienced going down the escalator with lots of people at the end which cant walk away?. A somewhat strange situation.

I have. I think it was actually in ZRH of all places - when you're taking the escalator down from the E-gates to the train that takes you to the middle terminal. Definitely no Swiss efficiency that day.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The cabin shows all signs of a heavy used one, somewhat dirty, people with thousands of bags in the cabin, unbelievable.

Looks like it could use an interior refit, but those classics will probably be retired soon enough anyway so no point in wasting money by doing so.

Shame about those equipment changes, but two 737 classics are still a rather nice catch and something different from the boring modern planes.


User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2476 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11240 times:

Hi Markus,

Truly marvelous! You have captured very interesting sights of the Turkish aviation. It won't surprise me if you have got all of the Turkish airlines in your report.

Thanks a lot for sharing. I really enjoyed it.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11054 times:

Hi Markus!

Great report!

I had no idea that Pegasus had scheduled flights; thought they were a charter carrier only. Flights looks okay.

Impressive terminal at SAW.

The777Man



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11035 times:

Hey, nice to follow more comments.

@Mark:

Quoting EICVD (Reply 6):
Another great report from you. Always enjoy reading them to pass the time. Looking forward to your next report. Thanks for posting.

Thank you. Warm welcomed.

@Eric:

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
thanks for this interesting read. With PGT's large fleet of B738's you made me think again, how did he manage to get on that B735 and B734. Pegasus' smallest subfleets, and you got on it Well done!

Lucky me, you know!.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
Nevertheless, the Onur MD88 would be more special, not to talk about all the Russian stuff.

Also time to go again for me sometimes next year.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
Thanks for the good pics from Ataturk airport. I'll go there for some photography in spring, flying LX again... and also that airport secures for really interesting traffic.
Did the crew sit on the crewseats on the STR bound flight? Were they ok with you taking pictures?

Hey, good to know.
No problems with the pictures at all, cabin crew taken the crew seats.

@Phil:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Another great report. This last week is cetainly Turkish TR month lol...Some nice unique metal. I would love you to do Anadolu Jet and report it . I thought Aerorent was a joke until I saw your photo's. Who are they?

Nice choice of cover of Pegasus magazine

Glad to follow you´re reply.
Anadolu Jet, also warm welcomed here.
And Aerorent was also new to me, some charter carrier from Russia.

@P.:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
More of the good stuff. Very interesting read. As you know, Pegasus is another carrier in my next spring's schedule - so good to know something beforehand.

Once more something to share impressions.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
AYT seems to have a rather impressive mix of carriers not seen in Europe that often.

Absolutely.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
That new terminal in SAW looks nice, but the operation seemed to be in shambles. I guess it is to be expected with a new terminal and all. Just look at how long it took to get LHR T5 up to speed...

Some days to sort it out till you´re time!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
Hmm, this picture was taken after landing in SAW, right? That's definitely a Tupolev undercarriage in the window.

So it is.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
I have. I think it was actually in ZRH of all places - when you're taking the escalator down from the E-gates to the train that takes you to the middle terminal. Definitely no Swiss efficiency that day.

At ZRH, interesting to follow.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
Looks like it could use an interior refit, but those classics will probably be retired soon enough anyway so no point in wasting money by doing so.

Shame about those equipment changes, but two 737 classics are still a rather nice catch and something different from the boring modern planes.

AFAIK to be retired soon early next year.

@Suryo:

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 10):
Truly marvelous! You have captured very interesting sights of the Turkish aviation. It won't surprise me if you have got all of the Turkish airlines in your report.

Thanks a lot for sharing. I really enjoyed it.

Thank you, more reasons to go again and catch that missing companies.

@Lars:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Great report!

I had no idea that Pegasus had scheduled flights; thought they were a charter carrier only. Flights looks okay.

Impressive terminal at SAW.

Thank you, H9 goes scheduled not that long ago.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10839 times:

Hello Markus!

Really nice TR. Turkey seems more and more interesting when it comes to their new airports and interesting airlines and I was really interested to read more about Pegasus because they want to fly to BEG too. Thank you so much

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well, BEKO, who knows this company?:

As it shows on the fuselage, this is the home appliance factory. In fact, I have their waxhing machine and it is quite good.



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User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10677 times:

Hi Markus,

Once again a 1st class report from you. Turkey looks very interesting from a enthusiast/spotters point of view & if your into Russian airliners then SAW looks like the place to be! I've heard that the Turk's can be a bit "funny" with taking photos at their airports, did you have any problems?
Can't wait for your next report from Tunisia. I went there for a holiday last year & really enjoyed the country! I'm trying to put together a trip back there, but this time including a domestic flight to Tozeur to see the two Iraqi B747's stored there!

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently offlineInfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1459 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10509 times:

Hi Markus,

A really interesting read about your turkish trip. You certainly saw some unusual planes and were lucky to get a logo jet and a good aircraft change.

The terminal at SAW does indeed look very impressive. However, no good having an impressive building if it's chaos inside! Certainly sounds as if you had a stressful transit. And then to get the gate to find the plane wasn't boarding despite the screens saying so - well how annoying.

How unusual to see you sitting that far forward, but you got a great seat! That legroom has to be worthy of a record!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Have you ever experienced going down the escalator with lots of people at the end which cant walk away?. A somewhat strange situation.

I have. I think it was actually in ZRH of all places - when you're taking the escalator down from the E-gates to the train that takes you to the middle terminal. Definitely no Swiss efficiency that day.

Interesting that Flying Finn noticed this too. It happens when there's a big line at passport control and the escalator is slowed to keep people on it so the nice orderly queuing system is not disturbed  Wink Sounds like a similar situation at SAW.

Btw, don't like the covers on the headrests, they look really tacky.

Looking forward to the first TR of 2010!

Happy flying
Infodesk



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User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10427 times:

Hola Markus!

Thanks for this insight on Turkey's aviation market.

It is really great to have you flying around and seeing how nice some of these unknown places are. I really enjoy all your trip reports and discovering these blank places on my map.

It is good to see how some companies work hard to keep their customers, as I usually only fly the old 'flagship' ones I miss all these great ones out there. I should consider start flying them.

Salut! and keep them coming!

Roger



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10422 times:

Thanks for a very detailed TR and tons of pics.
I also have travelled with Pegasus' -400, -500s and they are well used, loud and on their way out. Pegasus just ordered 17 738s on top of their already existing 738 order. Also Pegasus have a 18% stake in Air Berlin.
It is always impressing to realize that AYT is up there in pax numbers and SAW will catch up to that in a decade, both with some very exotic carriers.
2009 reports from Turkish FA shows that air travel in Turkey reached 40mil domestic and 45mil international pax. Still tons of room to grow.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10415 times:



Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 16):
seeing how nice some of these unknown places are

AYT gets more pax than airports like BRU, DUS, SVO, LIS, AGP, LPA. Hardly unknown.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10367 times:

Hey, good to follow more comments.

@Aleksandar:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 13):

Really nice TR. Turkey seems more and more interesting when it comes to their new airports and interesting airlines and I was really interested to read more about Pegasus because they want to fly to BEG too. Thank you so much

Thank you and interesting to read that they go for BEG also.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 13):
As it shows on the fuselage, this is the home appliance factory. In fact, I have their waxhing machine and it is quite good.

Good to know, It seems not that much known here in Middle Europe.

@Dave:

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 14):
Once again a 1st class report from you.

Thank you.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 14):
I've heard that the Turk's can be a bit "funny" with taking photos at their airports, did you have any problems?

Some suspicious views, but no problems at all.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 14):
Can't wait for your next report from Tunisia. I went there for a holiday last year & really enjoyed the country! I'm trying to put together a trip back there, but this time including a domestic flight to Tozeur to see the two Iraqi B747's stored there!

So it seems I should go for Tozeur, still in my mind here.

@Hannah:

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15):

A really interesting read about your turkish trip. You certainly saw some unusual planes and were lucky to get a logo jet and a good aircraft change.

Thank you.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15):
The terminal at SAW does indeed look very impressive. However, no good having an impressive building if it's chaos inside! Certainly sounds as if you had a stressful transit. And then to get the gate to find the plane wasn't boarding despite the screens saying so - well how annoying.

Absolutely.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15):

How unusual to see you sitting that far forward, but you got a great seat! That legroom has to be worthy of a record!

Definitely it was a good move here.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15):
Looking forward to the first TR of 2010!

Some weeks to go, you know.

@Roger:

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 16):
Thanks for this insight on Turkey's aviation market.

Thank you.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 16):
It is really great to have you flying around and seeing how nice some of these unknown places are. I really enjoy all your trip reports and discovering these blank places on my map.

It is good to see how some companies work hard to keep their customers, as I usually only fly the old 'flagship' ones I miss all these great ones out there. I should consider start flying them.

And I also like your "flagship" reports real much.
Btw. do you noticed that Quantum Air started scheduled flying from BCN on the 717´s?.

@TK787:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 17):

Thanks for a very detailed TR and tons of pics.

Thank you.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 17):
I also have travelled with Pegasus' -400, -500s and they are well used, loud and on their way out. Pegasus just ordered 17 738s on top of their already existing 738 order.

Good to know, I´ve followed you´re posts around Turkish Aviation closely in preparation for this trip.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 17):
It is always impressing to realize that AYT is up there in pax numbers and SAW will catch up to that in a decade, both with some very exotic carriers.
2009 reports from Turkish FA shows that air travel in Turkey reached 40mil domestic and 45mil international pax. Still tons of room to grow.



Quoting TK787 (Reply 18):
AYT gets more pax than airports like BRU, DUS, SVO, LIS, AGP, LPA. Hardly unknown.

Absolutely impressive, at first I don´t want believe my eyes, when I read about AYT´s
number 30 worldwide actually.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2352 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10313 times:

I truly enjoyed your TR! Would you fly on Pegasus again? Maybe next time you will get on their newer -800s! =).


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User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10313 times:



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 19):
So it seems I should go for Tozeur, still in my mind here.

Have a look at the place on Google Earth. A very long runway with a small apron & about half of it taken up with these 2 B747's, one of them being a SP!
I would advise a word of caution with photo's in Tunisia, at airport's it's forbidden(but you prob know that!). Having said that it didn't stop me taking a photo of a Tunisavia DHC6 Twin Otter at Monastir when we came back!  Wink

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10227 times:



Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15):
Interesting that Flying Finn noticed this too. It happens when there's a big line at passport control and the escalator is slowed to keep people on it so the nice orderly queuing system is not disturbed Wink Sounds like a similar situation at SAW.

Heh, I think it has got to do with the stereotype of Swiss efficiency which this clearly was not a case of. Thus that kind of things get noticed and stick to my mind for a long time. It was also back when the midfield terminal was still rather new (my first time there actually) so I guess I was more "tuned" for any quirks and issues.


User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10210 times:

great report and one which I was really looking for!
it looks like SAW still has a long way to go. I didn't had the chance to try it out myself yet, but I will from Jan-Mar with several tickets saved for only 10YTL all in (approx. 5 EUR) Big grin also SAW-AYT...

Beko is one of the biggest Turkish appliance manufacturer. Pegasus has some aircraft's wearing special ad's.

airline-wise I think you would rather prefer to have IzAir on the way to STR just to add a new airline to your log.

do you want to visit Turkey again? we don't have too many interesting and exotic aircraft types but some interesting destinations  Smile

thanks for sharing and very well written as always.


BTW last week for the first time I involuntarily flew via your home-port STR, nice airport  Smile


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 10128 times:

Hey, nice to follow more comments.

@Bobby:

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 20):



I truly enjoyed your TR! Would you fly on Pegasus again? Maybe next time you will get on their newer -800s! =).

Yes, I will, definitely interesting material in the fleet and also the -800, warm welcomed.

@Dave:

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 21):
Have a look at the place on Google Earth. A very long runway with a small apron & about half of it taken up with these 2 B747's, one of them being a SP!
I would advise a word of caution with photo's in Tunisia, at airport's it's forbidden(but you prob know that!). Having said that it didn't stop me taking a photo of a Tunisavia DHC6 Twin Otter at Monastir when we came back!

Thanks for the advice.
I will see if a sidestep to Tozeur seems possible.

@P.:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 22):
Heh, I think it has got to do with the stereotype of Swiss efficiency which this clearly was not a case of. Thus that kind of things get noticed and stick to my mind for a long time. It was also back when the midfield terminal was still rather new (my first time there actually) so I guess I was more "tuned" for any quirks and issues.

Good point here.

@Ori:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 23):
great report and one which I was really looking for!

Thank you.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 23):
but I will from Jan-Mar with several tickets saved for only 10YTL all in (approx. 5 EUR) also SAW-AYT...

Hey, good to know, incredible nice fares there.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 23):
airline-wise I think you would rather prefer to have IzAir on the way to STR just to add a new airline to your log.

do you want to visit Turkey again? we don't have too many interesting and exotic aircraft types but some interesting destinations

thanks for sharing and very well written as always.



Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 23):


Yes, the Izair machine was preference no.1 , but also the -400 was ok.
I will go again to Turkey, especially with that nice planes and interesting connections from SAW.

BTW last week for the first time I involuntarily flew via your home-port STR, nice airport

Good to know.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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25 PlaneHunter : Hi Markus, very interesting second part of your Turkey series. Too bad you didn't get the Tailwind 734 and the IzAir A319 - those would have been real
26 TK787 : I have done IST-ADB round trip with Izair 319s in May and surprisingly very good service and value all around.
27 FLIEGER67 : Hey, more comments, nice. @PH: Thank you. Exactly my opinion. Another 100% agreement. @TK787: More reasons to go again, soon. Greetings, Markus (FLIEG
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