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Snow//The FRA Experience. VIE-FRA Vv On LH  
User currently offlineDavidkunzVIE From Austria, joined Mar 2007, 431 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 11170 times:

Snow//The FRA experience. VIE-FRA vv on LH





PART ONE - VIE-FRA on LH 3531

FRA is every plane buff's dream. What a lucky fella I am to have a wonderful girlfriend who happens to live there! On Jan, 21 it was time to visit her. I had booked the flights on LH's website mid-December and managed to grab a €99 return fare. I do realize that intra-European eco flights fail to shine, compared to those exotic airlines, airplanes and airports that make this section of the site so special. However, I tried my best to make you "feel there" by including dozens of pictures, as simple explanations simply wouldn't make the effort of compiling a TR worthwhile. Not these days. ("We got a chocolate bar." "Check-in was smooth." and other simple phrases wouldn't get you in the mood to fly, I assume.)

So, get up with me, as I rise at 6.30 a.m., only to find that it had snowed the previous night.

View through Vienna's bitterly cold morning air.
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My father had agreed to drive me to the airport, an offer that I gladly accepted. The rat-runners that we are, we managed to avoid the rush hour traffic jams and all the accident sites we heard about on the radio. The fresh snow had really taken its toll.

Not the best day to fly.
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Despite all these problems, we arrived at VIE at quarter past eight, allowing me to explore the parking lots and all the other interesting spots.
I had checked in online the previous day, which went quickly. I chose a seat towards the back of the A321, hoping to have an empty seat next to me. What can I say? It worked.

Dropping off the baggage went quickly, as well. The agent seemed pretty surprised by my final destination. "So, Mr. Kunz, is Frankfurt actually you final destination??" "Surprisingly, it is, yes."

 

Not too busy, not too empty.
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Oh, how I love to spend time at the airport. Knowing that the baggage is no longer your business, being free to roam about as you wish. Feeling happy to visit the girl I love, happy to be flying again, for the first time since October (VIE-FCO-VIE on OS 738, no TR yet...), I decided to get myself a beer at the airport supermarket, located on the lower level, between the train station and arrivals. Why pay €4 for a small Heineken in a restaurant, when you can get local brew (Ottakringer, from Vienna) for 70c?  

Yes he can!!! Even build Vienna's new terminal?
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Then, I was off to parking lot number 4, which overlooks the north-eastern apron and is (usually) excellent for watching afternoon arrivals on runway 34.

I arrived on the top deck and an icy stiff breeze blew me straight back into the elevator. I felt somewhat silly with my chilled beer in right hand, the camera hanging from my neck. I suppose there were times, when people like me landed in mental institutions. Quite rightly so.

The view was breathtaking. Or, rather, the air was.

It had, once again, started to snow. Heavily.
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Normally a highly popular spot...
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The north-eastern apron.
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73G arriving from CGN. The passengers must have been thrilled that they did not even get covered airstairs...
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Here's one bird that doesn't need de-icing.
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Un hiver quebecois for this CRJ.
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The airbridges of the new terminal, "Skylink". Opening date gets postponed regularly...  
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Overlooking the current facilities, including the rather monolithic new access building to the train station.
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Well, well...enough freezing for me. For the moment, at least. I decided to make my way through the entire terminal, towards parking lot 3 for views ("views") of the western apron, which is mainly used for regional jets and props and runway 11/29.

Wow...how representative...
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Back in the terminal building I noticed that my flight already showed a 30 minute delay. (11.30 rather than 11.00). Oh, well. Not too bad. Actually, VIE seemed to handle the snow very well, with hardly any flights running late.

Views from P3:

2 763s, 1 772
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CRJ meeting.
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Visibility getting a little better. Just a little better.
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Having gained some additional time, I thought I could as well take a look at Austrian's new HQs.

OS to the right, VIE's HQs right, across the street. It is well known that VIE and OS are not the best of friends and they are constantly fighting. Obviously, however, they could never exist without each other. Now, when times are rough, they could throw things at each other, from one HQ to the other.
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Trying the zoom.
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Having had a fair share of cold air and wet feet, I passed the boarding pass control and entered the air side area.

Note that security checks are not centralised at VIE. That allows you to carry liquids (another beer, in my case...) all the way to your gate.
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The walkway to the C-gates (Schengen destinations.) Shops to the right, airfield views to the left. Good views!
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At my designated gate, C52, they were still handling the OS flight to ATH, so I went up to the security officer, and asked when i should be athe the checkpoint for the FRA flight. I was suggesting 10.45 and he told me: "at the very latest!" Ah well...

ATH queue
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Centralised shopping mall.
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767s at the A gates.
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Pretty busy western pier. (C)
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OE-LBN being pushed back.
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LX 320 in a wintry camouflage.
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I then returned to C52, to find they had switched the FRA flight next door to C53. Fine with me. The queue for security was substantial, however.

The FRA crowd.
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Once in the waiting lounge of C53, it turned out that the plane had not even arrived. What's with the crap about turning up at 10.45?

The two OS ladies behind the counter struggled with the amount of pax worried about their FRA connections. All they could tell them was that they would be rebooked on the next possible flights.

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At this point, things started to get boring. The lounge eventually filled up with no LH plane in sight. The OS lady came on the PA twice, announcing ever new delays, "due to bad weather at VIE". What? Sorry? Did the bus not depart FRA on time due to VIE weather? Ah, well.

You might expect a collective sigh of relief when the much anticipated aircraft finally shows up. However, it seems that pax did either not notice (being to busy reading their FAZ or Die Presse) or had fallen asleep by that time. Or at least feeling too dizzy to cheer. Did I mention it was pretty warm?

LH 3531
VIE-FRA
Airbus A321-100 D-AIRS "Husum"
del 28/04/1996
21/01/10
11.00-12.35 (actual 12.43-14.08)
Gate C53
Seat 26F
FL ???


Statistics: 13th flight on LH, 30th on a 32S, 7th on a 321. 120th flight overall.

D-AIRS arriving at the gate. Local time was 11.43. 43 minutes after our scheduled departure.
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The bored crowd. Mainly businesspeople, as you might expect.
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Inbound pax leaving the jetway.
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Finally it was time to board and I was among the first on the plane.

D-AIRS looking good in the snow. Note that the flaps and slats are deployed. Does anyone know the reason for that?
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Some might find it bland, and compared to OS, it is. I, for one, like LH's elegant interiors.
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CL arriving from MUC. On time, btw...
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For undisclosed reasons, we spent another 30 minutes on the ground. In the meantime, the snow started to build up on the window panes.
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We left the gate 103 minutes late and the captain announced we were in for a de-icing treatment. Always fun. But NOT, when you should have arrived at your destination some minutes ago.

The wind helped getting the windows snow-free.
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Average load. A 320 would probably have sufficed.
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After de-icing the flaps were retracteed. We then taxied towards runway 16 which meant a northerly departure and crossing the A4 motorway as well as the Danube right after rotation. Also, it took us across the fields, towards the point of the airport that is farthest away from the terminal buildings.
Pretty rural.

This small lookout tower is a wonderful photography location in the afternoon. Not today, though. Not at all!
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ATR arriving from BEG.
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The flaps remained at 0° until we lined up. I was getting increasingly nervous and was preparing to shout: "Klappen! Klappen!!!" ("flaps, flaps!!!"), to get the FA's attention...but it wasn't necessary in the end. ;D

Take-off video. Pretty grey day. Note the Danube, however.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMZs3ZQXZ3I

Now, what on earth is that??? Ah, I remember...we used to call it "blue skies".
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I had never notice LH painted the lower half of their wingtip fences grey. Since when have they been doing this?
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"Breaking news! Europe hass been swallowed by enourmous fluffy creatures!"
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I always have a beer on flights. As Krusty, the Clown puts it: "Man, that really passes the time." However, I decided not to have the chocolate bar, as I assumed my belly wouldn't respond particularly well to that combo. And it probably wouldn't have gone too well together, either.

Warsteiner and Milka.
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Before long, we were well on our way to FRA and started our descent pretty soon.

Germany, engulfed in clouds. At least, it remained dry for the day.
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The double-slotted flaps make the 321 easily identifiable on wing shots. The river Main below, hinting at a 25L/R arrival.
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Is this Offenbach?
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Somehow, our arrival seemed to catch the whole cabin by surprise. The crew were still busy going through the loooong list of re-bookings and some passengers were still standing up by the time the gear came down. You can hear the the FAs tell people to "sit down immediately" in my landing video.

Landing vid. Note the CX 744 taking off on 25R.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgjJp6oPHKw

I always enjoy the 25 arrivals in FRA. The view of downtown is exellent and the Waldstadion is always nice. (I refuse to call it by any other name!)

Crossing runway 25R.
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Two 738s. I never noticed that the BBJ2 had only 2 overwing exits. I understand that it's perfectly alright for Privatair's configuration, but what if they want to sell it to another operator? Will that even be possible?
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At the gate. At last! Thank God Almighty, I'm here at last!
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My seat, 26F. A good one.
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I said goodbye to the friendly crew (as opposed to some of the arrogant business pricks who ignored them on their way out). By the way, do you know the movie "The 'Burbs" starring Tom Hanks? The neighbour, Mr. Klopek? Well...he was our lead FA that day.  

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D-AIRS in all her beauty. I really do like LH's 321s.
http://i50.tinypic.com/k4dv2q.jpg

FRA's endless hallways...
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I hurried as I really didn't want my girlfriend to wait for me much longer, but I could have taken numerous nice pictures of parked planes.

Dull and confusing. FRA really is a hub. O&D passengers are a rare breed here.
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My lonesome bag. Only about 15 passengers from the VIE flight were actually collecting their luggage.
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After some incredibly precious moments of reunion, we took the S-Bahn to town. I had arrived. Safely and happily.

German public transport. Love it.
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PART TWO - FRANKFURT AIRPORT APRON TOUR

I was so excited. SO excited. We took the FRA apron tour. 45 minutes of nothing but planes.

I'll let the pictures do the talking. However, some information about where and when.
http://www.frankfurt-airport.com/cms...4879.airport_experience_tours.html

It is 6€ (5€ for students and such) and it's worth it. The tour guide himself is not very reliable or knowledgable, but you will hardly get a chance to get closer to the planes as a regular visitor than here. I loved, how much they even encouraged us to take pictures. I complied. 

Weather conditions were miserable and the bus was moving most of the time, so please have some mercy on me.

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Skyline tracks overhead.
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D-ABVS
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D-ABTE
http://i46.tinypic.com/i5p5kk.jpg

PT-MUD
http://i49.tinypic.com/34hz5vc.jpg

D-AIKE's crew getting aboard.
http://i48.tinypic.com/264jh3n.jpg

D-AISG (somehow I never seem to get on a LH 321-200...it's always the 100s for me...)
http://i49.tinypic.com/e67lzp.jpg

Being overtaken by D-ACHC
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D-ALCK getting loaded. (Double entendre??)
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Youthful antics. Nice to see that people can enjoy themselves, having to work in these conditions.
http://i48.tinypic.com/282l6xi.jpg

D-ABUF. She brought me to YXY, way back in 2005...
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Somon Air. I must admit I had never even heard of them before...
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TK 738 getting in the way of the 744's runway 18 departure.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2yv89e1.jpg

D-AVRE
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The 77F IS a beautiful plane. But can it ever rival the elegance of the MD11? We all know she can't.
http://i48.tinypic.com/16k8gn4.jpg

Unfortunately we didn't get closer to T2, but I thought that the size comparison of the 318 and the 77W was pretty neat...
http://i49.tinypic.com/2qics9v.jpg





PART THREE - FRA-VIE on LH 3542

We arrived at the airport early to allow enough time for our goodbyes. I had checked in online, in the morning, so all I had to do was drop off my bag again. There was virtually no one in line ahead of me.

FRA T1 check-in hall.
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http://i46.tinypic.com/5aq6c7.jpg

On my way to security.
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No lines. Gooood...
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I was through security within a minute. Again, without setting off alarms. The only airport, where it always happens, is TXL.

LH 3542
FRA-VIE
Airbus A321-100 D-AIRR "Wismar"
del 26/01/1996
24/01/10
21.45-23.05
Gate A17
Seat 33A
FL ???


Statistics: 14th flight on LH, 31st on a 32S, 8th on a 321. 121st flight overall.

A17, my gate.
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I was hoping for a -200 or at least RX or RY. However, no such luck. Once again I got on a regular -100.

D-AIRR
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D-AILS. She had brought me from FRA to VIE once, as well.
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I love the tradition of naming planes.
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Long tube.
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At this point...I basically fell asleep. It had been incredibly fulfilling days. Also, they had been incredibly filled. I recall waking up for take-off, however I can't even remember which runway we used. The first thing I remeber after that was this sight:

http://i45.tinypic.com/k1f1o9.jpg

Vienna! I was shocked. Never before had I slept through a whole flight. I guess the long days and sleepless night had taken their toll on me. Judging by the other landings, we had arrived on runway 11 which meant crossing the city. Perfect...missing out on the sea of lights that Vienna becomes at night...  

Oh, well.

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Two 321, right next to each other. Both belong to LH, in a way.
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VIE looked like my head felt: empty.
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Goodbye. See you soon.
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That was that. Thanks for reading. I sincerely hope you enjoyed my report, regardless of any flaws. Please feel free to ask questions and comment. I am looking forward to all forms of feedback.
(Nah...let me be honest...I'm only looking forward to positive feedback.   )

Thank you and good night.

David.


DH3 DH4 CR1 CR2 CR7 CR9 F70 732 733 734 73G 738 752 762 763 772 742 743 319 320 321 333 343
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User currently offlineLYchemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1201 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 11128 times:

From Frankfurt to Geneva 4 months ago LH gave us a nice sandwich while all you got was a bar of chocolate; however I love Suchard. However 1 year ago they gave a sandwich + a small twix bar which was recently removed from the menu.

Cold Vienna winters are famous; you don't seem covered enough.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11051 times:

Interessting report. I'll be using FRA myself in about three weeks when I arrive from MEX on LH 499, and I hope that going from the non-Schengen area to the Schengen area for my connection to HAM will be quick and painless. Hopefully the snow delays will be greatly reduced by then (though I don't mind it still being winter cold).  

User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8541 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10639 times:
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Hi David,

Nice report, really enjoyed the pictures of the snow @ VIE, looks like it was pretty heavy!

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
I decided to get myself a beer at the airport supermarket, located on the lower level, between the train station and arrivals. Why pay €4 for a small Heineken in a restaurant, when you can get local brew (Ottakringer, from Vienna) for 70c?

- A tad too early even for me!

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6807 posts, RR: 77
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10531 times:

Hi David,

great report, all these snow pictures from VIE are awesome.

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
Why pay €4 for a small Heineken in a restaurant, when you can get local brew (Ottakringer, from Vienna) for 70c?

I would always take a local beer over these average brewery giant products...

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
For undisclosed reasons, we spent another 30 minutes on the ground. In the meantime, the snow started to build up on the window panes.

How awful, that's even worse than having snow on my Scirocco's window...  

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
Average load. A 320 would probably have sufficed.

Probably it was full on the FRA-VIE leg?

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
Two 738s. I never noticed that the BBJ2 had only 2 overwing exits. I understand that it's perfectly alright for Privatair's configuration, but what if they want to sell it to another operator? Will that even be possible?

The two Privatair 737s operating for LH aren't BBJ2s, just modifed 737-800s once in service with Sun Country Airlines. The "missing" original emergency exists are still there, just have a closer look at this picture:


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Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
Somon Air. I must admit I had never even heard of them before...

Dushanbe-based Tajik carrier, equipped with two 737-800s.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineRyan h From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10370 times:

Sounds like you had a good time in FRA. Weather looks like it was the opposite to when I was there.

Did not know there are airport tours availabe.

Over here in Australia there used to be a good tour of Sydney airport, but now for some stupid reason you can't take photos on that tour anymore, yet you can still do it in Europe?.



South Australian Spotter
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10284 times:

Hi David,

An interesting report about a rather ordinary (as you mentioned) route and carrier, but lots and lots of good pictures. Looks like a very snowy day in Vienna. I'm actually amazed that the delay wasn't too long - I've been stuck in a plane at FRA apron for over three hours when there was a similar snowfall as in your pictures and the few deicers they had were completely overworked. LH served us the food on the ground back then, a really wise choice considering that the flight was supposed to depart around 21.30 LT ... I have also experienced a few hub meltdowns at CPH due to snow, not fun at all.

I've flown VIE-FRA on OS A320, never on LH.

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
At this point, things started to get boring. The lounge eventually filled up with no LH plane in sight. The OS lady came on the PA twice, announcing ever new delays, "due to bad weather at VIE". What? Sorry? Did the bus not depart FRA on time due to VIE weather? Ah, well.

Yes, it is quite possible that VIE ATC limited the number of incoming planes, requiring larger separation than normally due to the bad visibility (and the need to remove snow from the runway). In these cases, short flights such as FRA-VIE are often held on the ground at the departure airport to avoid having them circle unnecessary at holding patterns to wait for their turn to land.

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
Vienna! I was shocked. Never before had I slept through a whole flight. I guess the long days and sleepless night had taken their toll on me.

Ahh, young love! Trust me, once you've been married a few years the only thing you want to do during the night is to sleep!  


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10251 times:

Hi David!
Thanks for the nice read. Indeed you make a long story on these short flights, but wow, so many snow in VIE. Still a wonder that they can continue to operate in such conditions.
The rest is a basic LH flight, the normal service and an A321. That type is not my favourite, not at all in the back of the cabin, since they feel oncomfortable/unstable to me inflight. Also seatpitch on LH's A321 is not so good, and I prefer their 320's instead  

Rgds
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10236 times:

Nice TR

Really love the pics. So much snow!

Pity that you didnt catch an A321-100.

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
Dropping off the baggage went quickly, as well. The agent seemed pretty surprised by my final destination. "So, Mr. Kunz, is Frankfurt actually you final destination??" "Surprisingly, it is, yes."

Probably because of:

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
My lonesome bag. Only about 15 passengers from the VIE flight were actually collecting their luggage

Thank you for sharing

B747forever



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineDavidkunzVIE From Austria, joined Mar 2007, 431 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10208 times:



Quoting LYchemsa (Reply 1):
you don't seem covered enough.

Haha...true...somehow i don't like wearing too much for flights.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):
going from the non-Schengen area to the Schengen area for my connection to HAM will be quick and painless

I wish you the best of luck, however you'll have to re-clear security and god knows how long that takes...

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 3):
A tad too early even for me!

Yeah...I know...it does seem weird.  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Probably it was full on the FRA-VIE leg?

I guess so. When I booked the flight, a 320 was planned.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
just have a closer look at this picture:

Aaahhh...I see.   Interesting...

Quoting Ryan h (Reply 5):
yet you can still do it in Europe?

Absolutely. However you are not supposed to be taking pictures of the security sensitive areas between the public roads and the apron itself.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
I'm actually amazed that the delay wasn't too long

Yes, so am I. It seems that VIE is pretty well prepared for winter.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 8):
Really love the pics.

Thank you.  

I'm glad to hear you all liked the report.  



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User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2769 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10204 times:

Hi.

Thanks for taking the time to write this wonderful report, I enjoyed reading it and I liked your writing style with the humorous touches.

I believe I have flown D-AIRS back in 2008 between MUC and BCN, I had just stepped from a long SIN-MUC flight and I was sooo tired to write the registration, but I made a mental (yet fuzzy) note of it.

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
D-AIRS looking good in the snow. Note that the flaps and slats are deployed. Does anyone know the reason for that?

Not so sure about it, I know they do the same on hot conditions, something about the hydraulic systems, propably they left them down so that when de-icing some of the liquid could get into the innards and keep the flaps ice-free (just an uneducated guess)

Back to my MUC-BCN flight I remember when we were deplanning (at a remote stand) that the flight crew somehow forgot to switch off the strobe lights and even while getting on the bus they were still flashing, until a F/A came out and saw it, then inmediately informed the cockpit crew.

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineJoeKuboj From Serbia, joined Feb 2004, 164 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10068 times:



Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
By the way, do you know the movie "The 'Burbs" starring Tom Hanks? The neighbour, Mr. Klopek?

Oooh one of my favorite movies 


Nice trip report btw !  



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User currently offlineCanadianDC10 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 346 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10011 times:

Loved the report! Must've been so cool to take off in such a snowstorm. Excellent job on the details!

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26975 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9803 times:

Great report love all the photos of the snow. Really looks nice.

Does Adria still fly the short sector VIE-FRA?

OA260


User currently offlineDavidkunzVIE From Austria, joined Mar 2007, 431 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9496 times:



Quoting CanadianDC10 (Reply 12):
Excellent job on the details!

Thank you so much.  

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Does Adria still fly the short sector VIE-FRA?

They do, yes. They even upgraded some of their flights to CR9s.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9465 times:



Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Reply 9):
I wish you the best of luck, however you'll have to re-clear security and god knows how long that takes...

I can imagine, and I hope that with 1:30 connection time, I'll have some time to spare (though I'm told that I should still be fine for clearing passport control and customs for my carry-on).


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5167 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9440 times:

Hey, David,

nice story together with well done pix.

It seems you´re satisfied with you´re FRA trip,
aircraftwise and else.

That apron tour looks indeed interesting, maybe something to do for me in spring or summer.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: Capital travel on schedule!.
User currently onlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2349 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9355 times:

They say pictures say a 1000 words, your pictures however speak 2000 words! Wonderful TR, I felt like I traveled along with you through your trip, heck I liked this TR to the point I read it twice! Great TR and keep em coming!


ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineAkhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2471 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9233 times:

Hi David,

Great report. I like the way you captured the blizzard out of the airport terminal! The photos are charming!

I will be flying LH A321 for the first time this summer. I can hardly wait!  

Thank you for sharing.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9013 times:

So it goes, pictures make the trip report.. Great stuff!

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
Yes he can!!! Even build Vienna's new terminal?

  Separated in birth!

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
FRA T1 check-in hall.

Never been at FRA, have to say the TI check-in hall looks rather gloomy, like some potentially hostile space station.


User currently offlineDavidkunzVIE From Austria, joined Mar 2007, 431 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8589 times:



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 16):
nice story together with well done pix.



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 17):
I liked this TR to the point I read it twice!



Quoting Akhmad (Reply 18):
Great report.



Quoting Andaman (Reply 19):
Great stuff!

Thank you all very much.  

Just today I booked flights to TXL (OS in May) and FCO (OS in October). Expect TRs on these flights, too. Additionally, I'll be on a cruise of the Baltic Sea in August, including VIE-HAM-VIE on either OS or LH.



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User currently offlineLukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1092 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8337 times:

Hi David,

Enjoyyed reading about this sector. You have a great written style in your report and broke it all up nicely for the reader.

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Thread starter):
Why pay €4 for a small Heineken in a restaurant, when you can get local brew (Ottakringer, from Vienna) for 70c?

A man after my own heart. In NYO a beer was 9EURO in the airsdie bars, or 1 euro in the wee kiosk and you could take it outside in the snow.... not a stuffy bar - penny pinching students eh?!. And as PlaneHunter identified, its normally tastier local beer. Hurrah!

Good quality photos - particularly liked the smiling labourers at VIE. Nice shot.

Regards

Henry



Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1687 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8109 times:

Hi David,

Good to see a LH report once again. I always love to read them, since LH always remains something special for me.


Thanks for sharing!
Greetz,
Joost(D-ALCE)



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User currently offlineMtaabq From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8052 times:

Awesome, awesome, awesome! Great pics! It's always fun (for me anyway) to read trip reports on short sectors. You possess a great writing style which makes reading your TR's most enjoyable. Thank you for making the effort and for sharing your story.

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