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Riding The Ultra Long-Haul Twin: Delta 777-200LR  
User currently offlineplanehunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6707 posts, RR: 78
Posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Riding the Ultra Long-Haul Twin:
Los Angeles - Atlanta on Delta's Boeing 777-200LR




Intro
It's all about Delta's mighty Boeing 777-200LR in Part 3 of my latest trip report series. Flying on the world's longest-range airliner between Los Angeles and Atlanta was the highlight of the whole US trip.

Originally I had planned to enhance my Continental combo by some narrow-body hops in the Western part of the United States. However, I abandoned my planned domestic itinerary after finding out that Delta operates its Boeing 777-200LR six times weekly between Atlanta and Los Angeles as part of its services to and from Sydney. The variant - the most impressive in the 777 family in my opinion - is hard to get in general, so I decided to take the chance.

All those who have missed Parts 1 & 2 simply need to click here:
The Ultimate 737: LHR-IAH-PDX On CO 777 & 739ER
Pacific Coast Jaunt: 3 Carriers, E120, E140 & Fog



Background
In early September 2009 it was time to book another enthusiast trip. Flights to the United States were quite cheap in mid-October so I started searching for interesting combos. My plan was to get as many new airlines and aircraft types as possible on a five- or six-day trip. The destinations did not matter really much, I only tried to include LAX in order to meet my friend The777Man again. Some days later, after spending countless hours on airline and travel websites, my itinerary was complete:

Munich (MUC) - London (LHR) on British Airways
London (LHR) - Houston (IAH) on Continental
Houston (IAH) - Portland (PDX) on Continental
Portland (PDX) - Seattle (SEA) on United Express, operated by Skywest Airlines
Seattle (SEA) - San Jose (SJC) on Alaska Airlines
San Jose (SJC) - Los Angeles (LAX) on American Eagle
Los Angeles (LAX) - Atlanta (ATL) on Delta
Atlanta (ATL) - Houston (IAH) on Continental Express, operated by ExpressJet
Houston (IAH) - Newark (EWR) on Continental
Newark (EWR) - Frankfurt (FRA) on Continental
Frankfurt (FRA) - Munich (MUC) on Lufthansa

I booked all Continental flights together on the carrier's website - connections on both British Airways and Lufthansa were included in the combo. After that I separately added the flights on United Express, Alaska Airlines, American Eagle and Delta. The itinerary included five new airlines, five new aircraft types and four new airports - I was quite satisfied in the end after getting all the confirmation emails.





Monday, 19 October 2009
Los Angeles (LAX) - Atlanta (ATL)
Delta DL016
07:50-15:10 (08:01-14:54)
Flying time: 03:33 (hrs)
Economy Class, Seat 55J

Boeing 777-232LR
N705DN (s/n 773)
Delivered in 03/2009


1st flight on N705DN
1st 777-200LR flight
24th 777 flight



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I left the pretty La Quinta Airport Hotel early in the morning and took the shuttle to Terminal 5. First of all I checked the departures screen and was glad to see DL016 would arrive from Sydney on time. It was very busy in the check-in hall on that Monday morning, but I managed to find an available kiosk. I had pre-reserved my seat at the time of booking, so there wasn't much to do. Interestingly, flight DL016 was overbooked, but I didn't think a second about taking a later flight and being compensated: I really wanted to fly on the 77L and I had to get my connecting flight to Houston later in the afternoon. After paying 20 bucks for my checked luggage again I joined an extremely long security queue - actually it wasn't easy to find the end of it.   
30 minutes later I could finally proceed to the gate area and went straight to gate 58A to have a look at the aircraft: It was N705DN, delivered in March 2009, one of 8 777-200LRs in the Delta fleet:



The gate area was totally crowded, apparently Delta could enjoy good loads on its various early morning flights. Some time before boarding I noticed an announcement about Delta's "gourmet" buy-on-board snacks. Well, I had planned to buy a breakfast meal anyway.

I had lined up early so I was among the first Economy passengers to step on board. Friendly flight attendants welcomed me while I was walking all the way down to row 55. The comfortable all-leather slim-line seats...



...are equipped with 9-inch touchscreen video monitors:



Legroom was generous, too - definitely enough to survive an ultra long-haul flight. Small IFE boxes are located under the middle seats.



Request to hand out unneeded stuff to the flight attendants:


The flight was packed, no seat remained empty in Economy Class. A guy in the 20s took the middle seat - he was quite friendly, but gave me some worried looks when I took pictures and notes and used my binoculars.

United 757 and 777 parked at Terminal 6:



We finally left the gate eleven minutes late and I enjoyed listening to the engine start-up. The FedEx cargo area:



There weren't any other aircraft ahead of us, so we could roll onto the runway without waiting:



I was hoping for a powerful and noisy takeoff - but what followed was one of the least spectacular 777 takeoffs I have ever experienced.    The plane accelerated slowly and (almost) quietly, rolled and rolled and finally lifted off gently:



V Australia 777-300ER on the left:



Now this was unusual - a Lufthansa A340-600 (on the right) which had apparently stayed overnight:





Always nice to break through the clouds - especially when the wing features raked wingtips:



15 minutes later all the clouds were gone:



Unfortunately I was facing the sun all the time on the aircraft's right side which almost made it impossible to take any pictures of the in-seat screens. And shutting my window shade alone didn't help. So I asked the guy in front of me whether he could shut his window shade for few minutes - I was glad he agreed.

"Ever wish you could pause the movie to go to the onboard lav? Now you can watch what you want, when you want it, with our new Delta On Demand product." That's what you can read about Delta's on-demand in-flight entertainment system on the carrier's website. Delta on Demand features - among others - a wide range of movies and TV series, more than 4100 MP3s (playlist builder), 10 games and HBO pay-per-view programming.

Main menu language selection:



Movie categories:



Some new releases:



The IFE programming also includes a survey and information about Delta, the Skymiles frequent flyer program, the Skyteam alliance and hub airports:



My favorite feature was the airshow programming, including maps with zoom function:







Flight information in Spanish:


Delta on Demand is user-friendly and keeps you entertained on long flights, but there's room for improvement. For example, the number of movies available in languages other than English and Spanish as well as the number of games could be increased. But probably I'm just spoilt by Emirates' world class ICE system...  

Delta serves peanuts or other small snacks free of charge on longer domestic flights, but it took 1,5 hours until the first round of food - two bags of peanuts - arrived at my seat:



I was quite hungry and had a look at the buy-on-board menu card:



In addition to the usual snack boxes Delta offers "fresh selections". Between 5am and 9:45am only breakfast items are available (local times), so I ordered the Fruit & Cheese Plate for USD 6 (Gouda, Havarti, Sage infused Derby, red grapes, pecan halves, dried apricots, crackers). However, my choice wasn't available and I had to find an alternative. I decided to try the "Almond Butter and Grape Jelly Sandwich" for USD 4 - one of a few entrées created by award-winning chef Todd English. It looked quite tasty, but the wheat bread was a bit dry and the (Justin's) almond butter was not as creamy as peanut butter:


Finally the flight attendants offered something to drink. I asked for decaf and a middle-aged female flight attendant said she would get that from the galley. Two minutes later she came back and almost cheerfully said: "We will brew it freshly for you!" Nice! However, the disappointment followed soon: it tasted awful, not like coffee at all...   

Later in the flight I walked around for a while. The cabin was packed:



Half an hour prior to arrival the second round of drinks as well as pretzels were served - quite late actually. This time I ordered ginger ale - what would be a domestic flight in the United States without ginger ale?  


Shortly after I had finished my drink the plane already started descending. 15 minutes later we were on final approach to Atlanta...



...the home of DELTA:


We touched down smoothly after a flying time of 3 hours and 33 minutes - too bad I couldn't spend ten more hours on that fine aircraft.

Delta 757, cargo jets and the Atlanta skyline:



Well-known buildings: the excellent Renaissance Concourse Hotel (on the left) and Delta's headquarters (on the right):



N705DN came to rest next to Air France A340-313X F-GLZR:


Before disembarking the guy in the middle seat asked me what I would be planning to do with the numbers (registrations) - and I told him about my hobby. However, I'm not sure whether he was satisfied with my answers.

Anyway, after most other passengers had left I asked one of the friendly flight attendants whether it would be possible to visit the flight-deck. She immediately walked away in order to ask and a few moments later I got the green light by the captain. First of all I asked him about the operating differences between the 777-200LR and the 777-200ER and he told me a few aspects. Then I pointed out that the takeoff hadn't been really powerful - and he confirmed it was de-rated takeoff. He permitted me to take pictures and he even took a picture of me sitting the F/O seat.   
Definitely one of the best workplaces in the business:



Great weather, great bird:



Simply impressive - the giant GE90-110B1L2 powerplant:


I grabbed my luggage and walked straight to the Continental check-in area to get my boarding pass for my ExpressJet flight to Houston - story to be continued.


Conclusion
Flying on Delta's Boeing 777-200LR was a great pleasure despite the low-power takeoff. I wouldn't hesitate to go on a Delta ultra long-haul trip - the seats on the 77L are comfortable and legroom is generous. Even though Delta on Demand lacks certain features offered by other carriers it keeps you entertained for a long time. Flight attendants and ground staff members were friendly and motivated which was another positive aspect. Drinks were served a bit late twice, but that's a minor issue. However, it was disappointing that the desired breakfast meal wasn't available on an early morning flight between two major domestic destinations.

Next report: ATL-IAH-EWR-FRA on ExpressJet and Continental


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



P.S.: Just in case you missed them - other more or less recent reports:
Pacific Coast Jaunt: 3 Carriers, E120, E140 & Fog
The Ultimate 737: LHR-IAH-PDX On CO 777 & 739ER
Bye Bye, Hell! TRD-OSL-TXL-NUE - DY/AB/HE DH4
My Trip To Hell: NUE-CPH-OSL-TRD On Cimber & SAS
SFO-YUL-FRA: Map- & Sleepless On Air Canada's 77W
Sin City Gloss & Virgin America's Chic First Class
Seat Dilemma & Canyon Glamour: FRA To LAX, AC 763
On Par With Air France? DTW-AMS-MUC, KLM A330
Goodbye, Red Tails! DC-9-40/50 & Chicago Tour
Champagne & World Of Coke: Air France A340 To ATL
"Mission A380": Disappointing Legs On BA/BD/EI
Delights Of Doha, 773 & 77W: DOH-DXB-LHR On EK
A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK
Quality & Style: HKG-LHR On Air New Zealand 744
Taiwan Trio: TransAsia, UNI Air And The Taipei 101
"The Wings Of Taiwan": EVA Air A332, 744 Combi
SHA-SZX, Shanghai 757: Delayed By The Military
PEK-SHA, China Eastern A330 & Shanghai At Night
Striking Newcomer: Berlin-Beijing On Hainan A330



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1011 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Awesome, been waiting for this report! I was certain you'd not miss flying the B77L on that route, pretty sure that's what every a.netter would do.

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
He permitted me to take pictures and he even took a picture of me sitting the F/O seat.

Their longhaul crews are great - I've had similar experiences.  

By the way, I've been spotting from the very same position at ATL as you some months back. Cool. By chance I also took an engine photograph - although it's a GE CF6 that belonged to a B767-400ER.



Note the aircraft taxiing in the background is N701DN, DL's first-ever B777-200LR.

Thanks a lot for sharing with us, it sure was an interesting read. Keep it up!



Et là tu montes encore plus haut et ça persiste, alors on vole
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PH,

That's an excellent report - sounds like a very impressive plane and overall experience. That IFE looks very good indeed.

Shame about the slowness of the service, it really shouldn't be like that!

Have you any idea how many pax where continuing from Australia on that flight?

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
This time I ordered ginger ale - what would be a domestic flight in the United States without ginger ale?

Hmm, a flight with root beer?   Sorry, but I'm probably the only European that likes it - my former US colleagues couldn't believe their ears when I once ordered that stuff as my beverage of choice during one lunch in California... At least Alaska serves root beer onboard.


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I flew the 777 LR from ATL-LAX last august. One of my all time favorite rides. I was in business elite and loved the IFE system and the food was good. In terms of performance, it all depends how much the pilot is gunning the plane because out of ATL the 777LR was smooth and the climb was particularly fast. Might have actually been a record when flying up to 10,000 feet. Those seat belt signs came off some 3-4 minutes after take off.

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Finally the flight attendants offered something to drink. I asked for decaf and a middle-aged female flight attendant said she would get that from the galley. Two minutes later she came back and almost cheerfully said: "We will brew it freshly for you!" Nice! However, the disappointment followed soon: it tasted awful, not like coffee at all...   

DL's coffee is no different from the rest. The only airline that has coffee that actually tastes GOOD is UA. They brew and serve it in medal carafes in economy. Everybody else is plastic carafes, hence that bitter/stale taste.



"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6707 posts, RR: 78
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 1):
Awesome, been waiting for this report!
Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 1):
Thanks a lot for sharing with us, it sure was an interesting read. Keep it up!

Thanks a lot, Luftfahrer!

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 1):
I was certain you'd not miss flying the B77L on that route, pretty sure that's what every a.netter would do.

Indeed, I really couldn't resist.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 1):
Their longhaul crews are great - I've had similar experiences.

Good to hear!

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 1):
By the way, I've been spotting from the very same position at ATL as you some months back. Cool. By chance I also took an engine photograph - although it's a GE CF6 that belonged to a B767-400ER.

Cool picture! And a nice coincidence that you also captured N701DN, named The Delta Spirit.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
That's an excellent report - sounds like a very impressive plane and overall experience. That IFE looks very good indeed.

Thank you, FlyingFinn!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Shame about the slowness of the service, it really shouldn't be like that!

I'm wondering whether it was - for any reason - an exception on that flight.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Have you any idea how many pax where continuing from Australia on that flight?

No, unfortunately. But that would really interesting to know.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Hmm, a flight with root beer? Sorry, but I'm probably the only European that likes it - my former US colleagues couldn't believe their ears when I once ordered that stuff as my beverage of choice during one lunch in California... At least Alaska serves root beer onboard.

When I visited the World of Coca Cola one year ago I tried dozens of different soft drinks from around the world - but I cannot remember anyone which tasted worse than root beer...  
Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 3):
I flew the 777 LR from ATL-LAX last august. One of my all time favorite rides. I was in business elite and loved the IFE system and the food was good.

Sounds good - must have been great sitting in these new Business Elite seats.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 3):
In terms of performance, it all depends how much the pilot is gunning the plane because out of ATL the 777LR was smooth and the climb was particularly fast.

I fear these derated takeoffs will ever increase...

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 3):
DL's coffee is no different from the rest. The only airline that has coffee that actually tastes GOOD is UA. They brew and serve it in medal carafes in economy. Everybody else is plastic carafes, hence that bitter/stale taste.

Interesting to know. Air Berlin, Lufthansa and KLM used to serve really good coffee.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5115 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hey, PH,

well, thats for sure a highlight trip here.

Well written and nice, sunny pictures, something lost here in Germany, isn´t it.

Domestic on the 772LR, definitely a not-to-miss experience.

And it seems that was a recommendable experience.

Also the flightdeck visit, real interesting.

Looking for the next part now.

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: How to deliver a present in style!.
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4250 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PH!,
that's an awesome report again. Didn't know that DL was flying the 77L domestically, but of course your detective mind noticed and you booked right away. You get on quite some interesting metal lately   
I don't like the seat design, but the IFE looks great indeed. And yes, raked wingtips are great to watch, enjoyed them only once on a B77W so far. If you want to get on a 77L again someday, from May this year EK will fly them 6x weekly to AMS. It will become the first operator of this type at my home airport.

Regards,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6707 posts, RR: 78
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 5):
Hey, PH,

well, thats for sure a highlight trip here.

Well written and nice, sunny pictures, something lost here in Germany, isn´t it.

Hi Markus, thanks a lot for your feedback!
Indeed, when I look at the pictures it helps to forget that white mess outside for a while...

It seems you will show us some nice pictures from sunny Egypt soon!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6):
that's an awesome report again. Didn't know that DL was flying the 77L domestically, but of course your detective mind noticed and you booked right away. You get on quite some interesting metal lately

Hi Eric, many thanks!


Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6):
Didn't know that DL was flying the 77L domestically, but of course your detective mind noticed and you booked right away.

Yes, I was quite surprised find the 77L in the domestic schedule during trip planning.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6):
If you want to get on a 77L again someday, from May this year EK will fly them 6x weekly to AMS. It will become the first operator of this type at my home airport.

Wow, EK knows how to create attention...


PH

[Edited 2010-02-12 12:44:36]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Planehunter - very much enjoying your latest series of reports. Your pics are excellent as always. I have also had bad luck lately with taking pics from the window inside the aircraft - always seem to have the sun facing into the window making pics very tricky!

Good thing your semi paranoid seatmate did not decide to report you or complain to the flight crew. Did he ask you any more about your hobby and why you took pictures and registrations? Whenever people ask me that question, I ask them whether they go fishing or play a certain sport, and if they say yes - I ask them the same question: Why? Usually stops them in their tracks!

Thanks again, P/J



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6707 posts, RR: 78
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 8):
Planehunter - very much enjoying your latest series of reports. Your pics are excellent as always.

Thanks a lot, Palmjet! Great to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 8):
I have also had bad luck lately with taking pics from the window inside the aircraft - always seem to have the sun facing into the window making pics very tricky!

It was really annoying on that flight. I really need to be more careful when choosing my seats in the future.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 8):
Good thing your semi paranoid seatmate did not decide to report you or complain to the flight crew.

Absolutely, yes. I still remember being called and interviewed by Homeland Security officers at MSP some years ago - thanks to a seat mate.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 8):
Did he ask you any more about your hobby and why you took pictures and registrations?

No, he didn't inquire any more.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 8):
Whenever people ask me that question, I ask them whether they go fishing or play a certain sport, and if they say yes - I ask them the same question: Why? Usually stops them in their tracks!

Good strategy!  


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great TR

Good pics as always.

Congrats on adding a new aircraft type once again.

I really have to get on that DL 77L one day from LAX to ATL.

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Before disembarking the guy in the middle seat asked me what I would be planning to do with the numbers (registrations) - and I told him about my hobby. However, I'm not sure whether he was satisfied with my answers.



Hehe, he probably was worried the whole flight. Wonder what went through his mind all time  


Thank you for sharing

B747forever



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Thanks for the great TR. The weather looks very nice. Flying DL on this route on the 77L is definitely something I'd like to try one day. It must be very different to flying the narrowbodies that are common. The AVOD looks brilliant.

Does anyone know whether DL flies their 77L to any European destinations?


User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1215 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
"Ever wish you could pause the movie to go to the onboard lav? Now you can watch what you want, when you want it, with our new Delta On Demand product." That's what you can read about Delta's on-demand in-flight entertainment system on the carrier's website. Delta on Demand features - among others - a wide range of movies and TV series, more than 4100 MP3s (playlist builder), 10 games and HBO pay-per-view programming.

They only have this now!!!!!     


User currently offlinespootter10 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great TR, thank you!

How did you like the seat? It looks a bit worn down IMO, but I guess that´s just a feature of leather seats.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6480 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Excellent report with great pictures! I'm happy that you had a great ride on the DL 77L! You did it just in time too since DL will not be flying the 77L ATL-LAX vv eff June or July 2010.

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Legroom was generous, too - definitely enough to survive an ultra long-haul flight

Yes, I can attest to this as well. Legroom was no problem on a long-haul flight.

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Delta on Demand is user-friendly and keeps you entertained on long flights

I agree; the system is great although not as great as Emirates' ICE. I think and hope that this is the system that will be installed on UA's 777s that will be refurbished soon.

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Delta serves peanuts or other small snacks free of charge on longer domestic flights, but it took 1,5 hours until the first round of food - two bags of peanuts - arrived at my seat:

Nice that DL serves peanuts!!! I just can't believe it took so long for the first service; 1.5 hours is very long time when the whole flight is 3:30h

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
This time I ordered ginger ale -



What brand did they serve ?  
Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
he even took a picture of me sitting the F/O seat

Show us the picture! That must have been very nice to talk to the pilots and get them to take a picture of you!

Looking forward to the final installment in this series....

The777Man



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User currently offlineB767300ER From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 184 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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It was a pleasure to read your very positive rating for DELTA and our 777LR. When based in ATL i flew the 777ER
ATL-DXB exclusively now that Im based at JFK I fly either JFK-TLV or JFK-AMM which are currently 763 flights
I had hoped that with the equipement upgrade on our TLV service it would be a 777 but they will go to a 747-400
aircraft. Again thanxs for flying DL.


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2438 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PH,

Great report on board of DL B77L! Really enjoyed it!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Main menu language selection

Including Dutch, I am wondering how often DL will deploy B77L in the near future to Holland.

Thank you for sharing.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineABQ747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 847 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):

Can anyone spot the error on the map?



The reason New Mexico is so windy is because Texas sucks and Arizona blows.
User currently offlineATLFlyer323 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Always love to read your reports. My friend just took that bird to Sydney on Wednesday I believe. He called me to marvel at the size of the engines.

Great Read!



Everyday, the fluffy temptation of wheat!
User currently offlinejkj777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

HAHAHAHA, that map is in Spanish. I have noticed that a TON flying the route between LAX and ATL..

One thing about T5 @ LAX. When there is a really long line for security, sometimes a trip down to T6 is not so bad an idea. I have done that a lot with great success. There is a tunnel that will take you back to 5.

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
had lined up early so I was among the first Economy passengers to step on board. Friendly flight attendants welcomed me while I was walking all the way down to row 55

This is one of my biggest complaints with passengers these days. They make announcements at the gate about the 'Zone' number located on your boarding pass and to board with this zone. People start lining up so early and just stand there with a Zone 6 on their boarding card. They are right in the way and it makes it very difficult to have a seamless and pleasant boarding experience. I am so fortunate to be able to board in Zone 1 or 2. I just could not take the stress and crowd. LINE UP AND BOARD WHEN YOUR ZONE IS CALLED  


User currently offline9V-SPJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 748 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Nice report! I flew the LR when ATL-BOM-ATL and it is a great aircraft to fly long haul in. I slept for almost 15 hrs nonstop in economy on the way back, flight was 18.5 hours!

9V-SPJ


User currently offlineBurj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 900 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great trip report!

1.5 hours into the flight for service is definitely longer than normal... One possibility is that US carriers and crews tend to be much stricter about staying seated, and keeping the seat belt sign on, after take-off.

It could be the crew was seated for the first 20-30 minutes before they started setting up their carts....

I am really sorry you didn't get to try the cheese platter...it is actually one of the best deals in terms of BOB food offerings in the U.S. The cheese is quite good and they aren't too stingy with the fruit and nuts...for $6 it isn't bad at all...

As for the map in Spanish... Delta domestic flights with AVOD have the map and flight info in both English and Spanish...it is just one of the begrudging acknowledgements of the spread and importance of Spanish in America.

I am really pleased that you took pictures! As you've seen, Americans are really paranoid when it comes to air travel. I would love to do trip reports but as an non-white male...I know I would be asking for a WORLD of trouble if I walked around a domestic airline cabin snapping photos! Sad but true...

Thanks again for a great trip report!


User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1653 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

Super excellent Trip Report on a very unique route/aircraft type combo! Something we have come to expect from the Plane Hunter himself!  

Although it is quite known that DL does SYD-LAX-ATL with the 77L, it never really registered in my mind that this bird can actually be flown domestically on the LAX-ATL service!

I am not a huge fan of Delta's operations at JFK, especially their messy layout at their respective terminal, but seeing their mega operations at ATL is always fascinating to me!

I am also pleasantly surprised to always see young looking Delta cabin crew at Dubai as well, which is a huge contrast to the norms of US Airlines!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Flying on the world's longest-range airliner between Los Angeles and Atlanta was the highlight of the whole US trip.

Frankly, this beats any 'premium' service flight that runs between JFK and the west cost!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
I abandoned my planned domestic itinerary after finding out that Delta operates its Boeing 777-200LR six times weekly between Atlanta and Los Angeles as part of its services to and from Sydney.

Good choice!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
the most impressive in the 777 family in my opinion -

Agree! I can't wait to try my first B77L, whenever that would be!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
...are equipped with 9-inch touchscreen video monitors:

Ahhh! reminds me of Song!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
The flight was packed, no seat remained empty in Economy Class. A guy in the 20s took the middle seat - he was quite friendly, but gave me some worried looks when I took pictures and notes and used my binoculars.

If he gave you worried looks, then i wonder what would have happened if it was me instead (an arab a.nutter on a US plane?)  
Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Main menu language selection:

Should include Arabic since they fly to DXB, or at least Hindi!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Delta on Demand is user-friendly and keeps you entertained on long flights, but there's room for improvement. For example, the number of movies available in languages other than English and Spanish as well as the number of games could be increased. But probably I'm just spoilt by Emirates' world class ICE system...

Looks decent!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
I was quite hungry and had a look at the buy-on-board menu card:

Nice menu!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
I decided to try the "Almond Butter and Grape Jelly Sandwich" for USD 4 - one of a few entrées created by award-winning chef Todd English. It looked quite tasty, but the wheat bread was a bit dry and the (Justin's) almond butter was not as creamy as peanut butter:

Looks very fresh! But what's so award winning about simple almond butter and jelly spread over bread?

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
what would be a domestic flight in the United States without ginger ale?

No PH TR is complete without your ginger ale my friend  
Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
Air France A340-313X F-GLZR:

She looks unusually clean today!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
He permitted me to take pictures and he even took a picture of me sitting the F/O seat.
Definitely one of the best workplaces in the business:

Very lucky indeed! I should start trying my luck at cockpit visits! I havent done that in a very long time!


Thanks a lot for sharing this TR! .. Looking forward to the next one!

Cheers,
Roni



A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6707 posts, RR: 78
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 10):
Great TR

Good pics as always.

Congrats on adding a new aircraft type once again.

Thanks, Gabriel!

Quoting B747forever (Reply 10):
Hehe, he probably was worried the whole flight. Wonder what went through his mind all time

Well, he could have asked earlier.

Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 11):
Thanks for the great TR.

Thanks!

Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 11):
It must be very different to flying the narrowbodies that are common. The AVOD looks brilliant.

Delta offers more domestic widebody services than other US carriers, but a 77L is still better than a 763 of course.

Quoting spootter10 (Reply 13):
Great TR, thank you!

Thanks!

Quoting spootter10 (Reply 13):
How did you like the seat? It looks a bit worn down IMO, but I guess that´s just a feature of leather seats.

I found it very comfortable - but I'm not sure whether I would still like the leather surface after 12 hours.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
Excellent report with great pictures! I'm happy that you had a great ride on the DL 77L!

Hi Lars, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
You did it just in time too since DL will not be flying the 77L ATL-LAX vv eff June or July 2010.

Bad to hear. Will 77Ls be based at LAX then?

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
What brand did they serve ?

I don't know, unfortunately. On my next trip I will keep an eye on that.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
Show us the picture! That must have been very nice to talk to the pilots and get them to take a picture of you!

I'll mail it to you!

Quoting B767300ER (Reply 15):
It was a pleasure to read your very positive rating for DELTA and our 777LR.

Great to hear, thanks a lot!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
Great report on board of DL B77L! Really enjoyed it!

Hi Suryo, many thanks.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
Including Dutch, I am wondering how often DL will deploy B77L in the near future to Holland.

Would be great for AMS, but I guess the 77L will be used on longer international routes only.

Quoting ABQ747 (Reply 17):
Can anyone spot the error on the map?

Not yet...

Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 18):
Always love to read your reports.

Thanks, Brandon, great to hear!

Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 18):
He called me to marvel at the size of the engines.

Yes, these engines are most impressive.

Quoting jkj777 (Reply 19):
One thing about T5 @ LAX. When there is a really long line for security, sometimes a trip down to T6 is not so bad an idea. I have done that a lot with great success. There is a tunnel that will take you back to 5.

Interesting to know!

Quoting jkj777 (Reply 19):
This is one of my biggest complaints with passengers these days. They make announcements at the gate about the 'Zone' number located on your boarding pass and to board with this zone. People start lining up so early and just stand there with a Zone 6 on their boarding card. They are right in the way and it makes it very difficult to have a seamless and pleasant boarding experience. I am so fortunate to be able to board in Zone 1 or 2. I just could not take the stress and crowd. LINE UP AND BOARD WHEN YOUR ZONE IS CALLED

I had zone 3 and didn't block anyone. However, I have to agree in general - it can be quite a mess sometimes.

Quoting 9V-SPJ (Reply 20):
Nice report!

Thanks!

Quoting 9V-SPJ (Reply 20):
I slept for almost 15 hrs nonstop in economy on the way back, flight was 18.5 hours!

Wow, that's a long time. I guess that's only possible in comfortable seats.

Quoting Burj (Reply 21):
Great trip report!

Thanks, Burj!

Quoting Burj (Reply 21):
1.5 hours into the flight for service is definitely longer than normal... One possibility is that US carriers and crews tend to be much stricter about staying seated, and keeping the seat belt sign on, after take-off.

It could be the crew was seated for the first 20-30 minutes before they started setting up their carts....

Interesting aspect.

Quoting Burj (Reply 21):
I am really sorry you didn't get to try the cheese platter...it is actually one of the best deals in terms of BOB food offerings in the U.S. The cheese is quite good and they aren't too stingy with the fruit and nuts...for $6 it isn't bad at all...

I will try to get that next time!

Quoting Burj (Reply 21):
As for the map in Spanish... Delta domestic flights with AVOD have the map and flight info in both English and Spanish...it is just one of the begrudging acknowledgements of the spread and importance of Spanish in America.

I didn't mind about the Spanish map in general - just noticed that it appeared in Spanish despite my different language selection.

Quoting Burj (Reply 21):
I am really pleased that you took pictures! As you've seen, Americans are really paranoid when it comes to air travel. I would love to do trip reports but as an non-white male...I know I would be asking for a WORLD of trouble if I walked around a domestic airline cabin snapping photos! Sad but true...

Yes, that's really sad.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 22):
Super excellent Trip Report on a very unique route/aircraft type combo! Something we have come to expect from the Plane Hunter himself!

Hi Roni, thank you very much for your kind words!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 22):
I am not a huge fan of Delta's operations at JFK, especially their messy layout at their respective terminal, but seeing their mega operations at ATL is always fascinating to me!

I have to agree about JFK. Going through ATL is always a pleasure.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 22):
If he gave you worried looks, then i wonder what would have happened if it was me instead (an arab a.nutter on a US plane?)

I fear he would have been even more concerned, unfortunately. Bad times.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 22):
Should include Arabic since they fly to DXB, or at least Hindi!

Interesting aspect. But I guess there's room for improvement.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 22):
Looks very fresh! But what's so award winning about simple almond butter and jelly spread over bread?

Yes, very good question. I have wondered about that, too.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 22):
No PH TR is complete without your ginger ale my friend

 
Quoting ronerone (Reply 22):
She looks unusually clean today!

You're right! Rain at Paris?  
Quoting ronerone (Reply 22):
Very lucky indeed! I should start trying my luck at cockpit visits! I havent done that in a very long time!

You should try it next time - they can only say yes or no, there's nothing to lose.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 6392 posts, RR: 39
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi PH,

Excellent as usual! I eagerly anticipated the 77L as soon as the third paragraph of your 1st report in this series! And it has come through. It would have been nicer if you were at the other end of the leg, heading towards SYD though! As I'm sure you would have loved to.

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
I didn't think a second about taking a later flight and being compensated: I really wanted to fly on the 77L and I had to get my connecting flight to Houston later in the afternoon

I wouldn't change from the 77L either but how much were they offering? Or didn't they get to that point?

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
V Australia 777-300ER on the left:

I'm sure you'd get a better take off in one of those beauties!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
The IFE programming also includes a survey and information about Delta, the Skymiles frequent flyer program, the Skyteam alliance and hub airports:

Interesting! It's good to see so many things being added into IFE these days.. The maps look excellent

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
It looked quite tasty, but the wheat bread was a bit dry and the (Justin's) almond butter was not as creamy as peanut butter:

So not as gourmet as it set out to be? I was really hoping for something more interesting than that! They sound like rather interesting breakfast items to be honest..

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
what would be a domestic flight in the United States without ginger ale?

What would be any flight you take without ginger ale?  
Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
He permitted me to take pictures and he even took a picture of me sitting the F/O seat.

That's great. I love it when pilots do this! It shows that some care about us enthusiasts!


Gotta love that wing and the engines. Good to know the staff were motivated. Always a positive sign. I'm looking forward to experiencing DL when I go to USA!

Quoting planehunter (Thread starter):
However, it was disappointing that the desired breakfast meal wasn't available on an early morning flight between two major domestic destinations.

I guess you can't always expect popular choices when sitting in the back. But I really wonder how long it took for them to run out.


Wow, one more TR and this series is done and dusted! Too many to count for me! Looking forward to the next exciting read.

Regards,
Nicholas



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25 The777Man : The 77L will probably be based at ATL. Routing of aircraft would be something like this : DTW-NRT-LAX-SYD-LAX-NRT-DTW. I'm not sure if they will fly
26 PlaneHunter : Hi Nicholas, thanks for your feedback! Yes, absolutely. No, I didn't proceed after reading it would be overbooked. Unfortunately, you don't get that
27 Contact Air : Hi PH, nice to read another part of your USA-series - great report and fantastic pictures as always. Good to hear that Delta offers a good product on
28 ABQ747 : Santa Fe is misspelled.
29 atrude777 : I am taking this flight but in reverse, ATL-LAX in two weeks! Thanks for giving me a general view/idea of what to expect! I am going to take full adva
30 JL418 : Nice TR, thanks for sharing - I beg pardon for my ignorance, maybe you've even written it but I must have missed the line: was the 77L due to continue
31 widget1580 : Planehunter - very much enjoying your latest series of reports. Your pics are excellent as always. I have also had bad luck lately with taking pics fr
32 USAirALB : Very nice TR. Its nice to know that DL still provides free snacks in Y while almost everyone else gives you a beverage and a napkin. I'm pretty sure U
33 OA260 : Very nice report and DL look quite decent. The Ginger Ale indeed is a must lol... Some nice pics there. Thanks for the report. OA260
34 StarAlliance38 : Great TR! Impressive bird and great trip. Hope to hear about more of your US journey!
35 767747 : Thanks for this great report, Planehunter! Looking forward to the next part. 767747
36 DLATL777 : Just a few comments; First, thanks for the report! Second, to the poster who asked this, Delta does not operate any 777LR to any European Destinations
37 Post contains images airpearl : Hi PH, another fantastic trip report. Thank you for the continuing series of interesting treks across America. I'd bet! Wide-body domestics in the U.S
38 QatarA340 : Excellent Trip Report, i was very excited to see a TR about Delta's 77L. I did not know they also fly domestic. OMG! You have to pay for the food on D
39 flyibaby : I flew a DL 77L to JNB last year, and I have to say that I was sitting watching several movies in the exit row (2nd part of coach) and after 8 hours,
40 C8fromONT : I'm flying this same flight May 28 and after seeing that food, I'll make sure I bring my own on the plane with me!!
41 Post contains images LH4116 : Hi PH, great report, a very interesting and enjoyable read. I didn't know DL still flew the 77L domestically, only thought they did that during the fi
42 Sabena332 : Hi there, Another excellent report with great pics, kept me entertained for a while! That's good to read. There are not many airlines around with dece
43 B767300ER : In reply to #39 I find placing the blanket over the pillow helps on very long flights - atleast that is what I suggest to my pax so I always hand out
44 BasilFawlty : Hi, Thank you for sharing. It's pleasant story with nice pictures, well done!
45 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Hi Christoph, thanks for your feedback! Ok, thanks! Hi Alex! Cannot wait to see your trip report! I'm sure you will enjoy it! The plane had arrived f
46 planiac787 : The last time I was in atl , Air france operated the CDG-ATL-CDG route on the 777.. But its good seeing the A343 in action.. I would hate to see the b
47 PlaneHunter : The trip took place in 2009, AF has meanwhile switched to 777s on the ATL flights. But there are still 13 A340s left, I don't think they will leave t
48 ZSOFN : Nice report! Enjoyed reading it. Hopefully not - as fuel costs rise over and above the cost of maintenance, hopefully the balance will swing more in f
49 Post contains images abrelosojos : Nice report. Thanks for resurrecting it . I didn't even know DL flew the 77L on LAX-ATL routing. You definitely had quite the American adventure back
50 PlaneHunter : Let's hope so! Thanks! It was a nice trip with several new types. PH
51 travelin man : I will be taking the 77L tomorrow LAX-ATL in business elite.... looking forward to it!
52 Darksnowynight : You do. But that still has to outweigh the very significant difference in fuel burn. It may, I don't know. But why you'll definitely see more de-rate
53 Post contains images baldwin471 : Great report! I still haven't plucked up the courage to ask to have a look in the flight deck Maybe next flight i'll go for it.
54 LY777 : Great TR! I wish I could fly a 77L!!! Do you know why DL uses an ULH plane on such a short route?
55 KaiGywer : It flies LAX-SYD. Rotates back to ATL for maintenance.
56 PlaneHunter : Nice. How did you like it? Thanks for your comments, Alex! Just ask - it's worth it. Thanks for your reply! They're not easy to get, but keep searchi
57 LY777 : thanks! And the 77L flies daily LAX-ATL?
58 PlaneHunter : Yes, the 77L flies ATL-LAX-ATL daily. PH
59 LY777 : Thanks for the info
60 PlaneHunter : You're welcome! PH
61 ba319-131 : Nice read and picture PH, not sure why it took me so long to get around to this! - I never get the binoculars out on a plane, I figure best not to. -
62 Post contains images adamspotter : Hi PH, Nice to be able to read this "older" report of yours. What a great report on this ultra long-haul domestic hop Will definetely think about this
63 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Hi Mark, thanks for your reply! Better late than never! Well, I always do, otherwise I would miss registrations. But I guess it's good to be discrete
64 Post contains images adamspotter : Well I booked it ATL-LAX for the end of January! Yeah too bad about the 787 but there will be many other chances anyway..
65 PlaneHunter : Sounds great, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Very true! PH
66 Post contains images SloAir : Hi PH, I was not registerd on A.net yet at the time this report was published, I have read it of course, but did not have a chance to comment on it -
67 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Hi Blaž, many thanks for your comments! Good to hear from you. Feedback is always welcome, no matter when! Not necessarily, short flights can also st
68 brilondon : Great report. I also enjoy flying on the of DL's. I actually prefer this type of A/C to the 747, although DL is making the experience an excellent one
69 PlaneHunter : Thanks for your feedback, Brian! What makes DL's 747 so special? PH
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