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Joyrides Down Under Part 4: Int'l On Domestic  
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11169 times:

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Joyrides Down Under Part 4: International On Domestic


Joyride
Noun: A ride in a vehicle taken solely for pleasure
Verb: A ride in a vehicle with no particular goal and just for the pleasure of it


Ok, there seems to have been a small goal to my joyrides: that of trying out new aircraft and (hopefully) new airlines.


2 International flights.
8 Australian domestic flights, 3 airlines, 4 states, 5 types.
6 New Zealand domestic flights, 3 airlines, 2 islands, 3 types.



Welcome to my next series of Trip Reports. These flights over 3 weeks, summarised above, includes flights on Air New Zealand, Emirates, Qantas, Virgin Blue, Pacific Blue and Jetstar; takes me through New South Wales, Victoria, ACT, Queensland and New Zealand while travelling on 6 different types of planes. I hope you enjoy my journey around eastern Australia and also New Zealand. At the end of the final TR, I’ll write up a comparison between the domestic carriers in both New Zealand and Australia according to my personal experience with them.

If you missed the first TRs of the series, here are the links:
Joyrides Down Under Part 1: Air NZ AKL-CHC-AKL (by NZ107 Dec 23 2009 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 2: EK A380 Revisited (by NZ107 Jan 8 2010 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 3: East Coast Adventure (by NZ107 Feb 11 2010 in Trip Reports)

This is a continuation of trying out various planes in Australia. To get the full appreciation of this particular TR, it is advised to read the previous one. These flights were taken a day after the flights I took in the previous report, including another trip SYD-MEL on a DJ 738 (should have been on a Tiger Airways A320) and a new one for me – flying an international tag on route MEL-SYD on a JQ A332. I booked the DJ flight because it was the cheapest flight in getting me to MEL in time to catch my flight back to SYD on the JQ A332. When I booked the flight on DJ, I didn’t even consider to get my money back because I was so angry. But I couldn’t let them get away with my $50. So, the previous night when I got back from the airport, I did a bit of reading up on the Tiger terms and conditions/conditions of carriage. I came across this in Article 10 on their website:

Quote:
Article 10: Schedules, Cancellations
10.1 Schedules:
We will use our best efforts to avoid delay in carrying you and your Baggage. We will endeavour to adhere to published schedules in effect on the date of travel. However, times shown in timetables, schedules or elsewhere are subject to change at any time and we shall not be liable in any way whatsoever for any loss incurred by Passengers as a result of such change.
10.2 Cancellation, Changes Of Schedules:
At any time after a booking has been made we may change our schedules and/or cancel, terminate, divert, postpone, reschedule or delay any flight where we reasonably consider this to be justified by circumstances beyond our control or for reasons of safety or commercial reasons. In the event of such flight cancellation or changes to the schedule so as to depart more than four (4) hours before or after the scheduled departure time, the Passenger may elect, either:
a. To be carried at the earliest opportunity on another of our scheduled services on which space is available without additional charge and, where necessary, extend the validity of your booking; or
b. To retain the value of your fare in a credit account for your future travel provided you re-book within six (6) months there from; or
c. To receive a refund in accordance with these Terms & Conditions.
Where a cancellation or significant alteration is made to our schedule before the date of your departure, we will use reasonable efforts to inform you of any such cancellation or alteration.

So, as you can see, it clearly states that if the change to the schedule is more than 4 hours before or after the original scheduled departure, I may choose an option. It was quite clear by that stage what I was going to do. The bit below the options really annoys me – “we will use reasonable efforts to inform you of any such cancellation or alteration”. I don’t accept the fact of “we sent you an email on the xth of November and got a reply” (which was what the check in agent told me) when I didn’t actually receive any notification as a means of informing me of any such alteration. I was happy that I knew I had a chance of getting a refund but that depended on whether the customer service the next day would be able to answer my call..


It's all about the destination AND the journey.
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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11149 times:

The next day came around very quickly as I was woken up by my alarm. The time: 6:00am. I’m not used to these super early wake ups, especially when on holiday! But when catching a plane, you’re left with no alternative! I arrived at the train station and realised I’d probably missed the train by a couple of minutes because the next one was due in 15 or so. I shouldn’t have panicked as I had allowed myself plenty of time to check in. I arrived at the airport, rushed upstairs to the DJ self service check in booth with 50 minutes before the flight departed so I was definitely safe. In contrast to a couple of days before, my credit card wasn’t accepted by the self service check in booth! I was left to type my booking reference into the computer. After that, everything went smoothly and I had a window seat! Out popped a rather nice boarding pass (not the supermarket docket type quality boarding passes like the machines in NZ have) for a change!

The Self Service Kiosk
No To My Credit Card
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All Done
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There was no point in me hanging around landside so I quickly went through security. One downer – the coffee from Quikshots was appalling. They use Allpress Coffee which is roasted in New Zealand and it made a complete mockery of it. I think that the coffee I had at Krispy Kreme the next day was better than that!

Aircraft Shots
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FIDS
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My Plane To MEL Disembarking
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The terminal was completely covered from the previous day so I went to the gate and sat around until the boarding call.


Flight Information

25 Nov 2009
Routing: Sydney – Melbourne Tullamarine (SYD-MEL)
Airline: Virgin Blue
Flight: DJ814
Scheduled Time of Departure: 0745hrs
Actual Departure: 0747hrs (pushback), 0809hrs (rotate)
Scheduled Time of Arrival: 0935hrs
Touchdown: 0914hrs
Flight time: 1hr 27 min
Aircraft: Boeing 737-8FE
Registration: VH-VON
Seat: 27A


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This 737-800 is slightly newer (half a month) than the one I travelled on the previous day – registered on 4 September 2003.

Once again before boarding, they invited people to grab a headset to use their Live2Air IFE system. And it was working on this aircraft. I apologise in advance for the dirty windows that I had to shoot out of.. But a nice walk out onto the apron and not being told off for taking photos got me to the rear entrance of the plane. The usual welcome and greeting by first name continued and I made my way to my seat, the 4th row from the back.

Next Door 73G
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My Plane
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Legroom Again
View
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Taxiing
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After watching a QF 738, JQ A320, QF A332 and an NZ A320 departing from taxiing down to the end of the runway, it was our turn to line up with Runway 34R.

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QF 738
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Airshow!
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QF A332
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Lining Up Runway 34R
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The departure to the north was soon followed by a right turn out to the Tasman Sea. We crossed back over the coast just south of Wollongong. It was a very uneventful flight and all other aspects of DJ have been covered in the previous TR. All but one feature – Virgin Blue’s IFE. Their system is called Live2Air which gives you a free preview of quite a few FoxTel channels until just after takeoff where you have to swipe your credit card and pay $7 to keep viewing these channels. Or alternatively, you could just watch the Airshow channel which has ads in between but at least it’s provided. You can also dim your TV right out so you can have some peace without the screen constantly flashing at you. I question the accuracy of the Airshow function as it showed we were nearing CBR in one of the shots when we still hadn’t crossed the coast.

Liftoff
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QF Terminal And QF Maintenance Area
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Nice View Of Sydney
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Coogee Bay Centre Screen
Bondi Beach Under Winglet
Are We That Far Inland?
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I Don’t Think So..
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More Coast



Service was the same as the previous DJ flight I took and I wasn’t feeling hungry so I passed on the buy on board snacks. We cruised at 39,000ft (according to Airshow) past Canberra and onto Melbourne.

Close To Canberra
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The flight itself seemed rather short and soon enough, the airbrakes were deployed and we descended through the clouds. On descent, we passed these green forests but not long after, we passed another mountain range and I noticed that all the trees were black. Then I realised that we were flying over the area affected by the Black Saturday fires which occurred in early 2009. On a confirmation lookup on Google Maps, I noticed that we flew over Kinglake, one of the hardest hit areas. It was a very sombre experience flying across that charred belt of fire affected forest. Our descent continued and it wasn’t long before we landed on Runway 27, Melbourne’s shorter runway. We taxied past the international terminal towards the DJ terminal. And I was back in Melbourne.

Forest
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Fire Affected Hills
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Outskirts Of Melbourne
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Melbourne City
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Flaps Down
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Short Final
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Spoilers Deployed
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Slowing Down
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Turning Off The Runway
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International Terminal: SQ A380
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EK 77W
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Other Side Of International Pier
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Bound For Gate 4
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Parking Next To Company 73G
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I decided to use my down time in MEL to try and get my refund. First up, I went back to the TT terminal to see if anyone was there who I could try and talk to. Obviously not. I had figured that the only way to try was to ring them up on their customer service helpline. So I saved this call until I was airside. As I had only been running around MEL the previous day, navigation was extremely easy. Check In for my JQ flight to SYD had already opened so proceeded to check in. After a couple minutes’ wait, I was at the desk. Because this is a flight between both international terminals, you have to go through customs. The check in agent puts an orange sticker on the boarding pass which has a ‘D’ on it referring to domestic travelling and also details some form of photo identification plus a signature. It was a fun process to be checking in for an “international flight” but only flying domestic! With that cleared, all I needed to do was to clear immigration.

Tiger Terminal
A Long Queue I Wouldn’t Ever Like To Be In
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No It Isn’t.. But Tiger Is
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International FIDS
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JQ Check In
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Boarding Pass
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With very little to do landside at MEL, there wasn’t much choice but to head through immigration as I wouldn’t be back in the international pier for some time. Immigration didn’t take very long as there is an express lane for those travelling domestic. However there were a few sneaky people in front of me who used the express line instead of lining up in the rather long queue to get through immigration. You must be wondering what they stamp, if anything. They actually stamp the boarding pass as you’ll see below! It looked pretty cool. But the sad part was the fact that the quarantine officer at SYD took everyone’s boarding passes. It was stamped again upon arrival into SYD too.. It would have been the most interesting boarding pass of mine! The only annoying thing about this domestic flight is that it’s subject to international rules such as the LAGs rule so it basically meant more plastic bags for me and an empty drink bottle to take through security. After a few minutes of waiting in line, I was through security and happily into international airside. Only to be met by a large Duty Free store. Oh well, the good thing about it was the fact that I got free samples of products in there!

GA A333
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The international pier isn’t the most flash but it certainly does the job. Some of it has had a facelift. Next time I pass through MEL, I’ll provide better photos of seating etc. And the new section of the pier will be properly open. But I was primarily set on getting that refund of mine seeing I was airside and didn’t stand a chance of missing my flight. Tiger’s customer service is based in Melbourne so it was a national call from my cellphone to try and get hold of what seemed like the only CS rep available. This was one long wait full with the hold message rambling on about Tiger Airways and the fact that you can go online and do stuff there. Finally, after about 15 minutes, someone answered the phone and I was able to get my point across after referring to the conditions of carriage many times. That took another 6 minutes. And I was given the option of a refund, credit or reschedule but I persisted with the refund as I knew I’d never have to deal with them again after that. I was ready to rage at the rep but I didn’t actually need to – the company puts all these people in such bad situations in a way I feel sorry for them but then again, they could probably just as easily head somewhere else if it was too much for them.

Down The Pier
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MH 772
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Open Area At The End Of The Original Pier – New Pier To The Left
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A Peek Into The New Pier
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2x A380
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A New Nose Already?
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My JQ A332 On The Left, NZ 772 On The Right
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This Time With A Comparison: A380 vs 744
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Contradiction? We’re Not Boarding
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FIDS Again
SQ 773 To SIN
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Stamped Boarding Pass
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Thankfully I still had plenty of time before boarding commenced. I had another wander around the place. Boarding was supposed to commence at 11:20am but it took another 15 minutes for it to start boarding.

Flight Information

25 Nov 2009
Routing: Melbourne Tullamarine – Sydney (MEL-SYD)
Airline: Jetstar International
Flight: JQ30
Scheduled Time of Departure: 1150hrs
Actual Departure: 1249hrs (pushback), 1308hrs (rotate)
Scheduled Time of Arrival: 1315hrs
Touchdown: 1412hrs
Flight time: 1hr 23 min
Aircraft: Airbus A330-202
Registration: VH-EBB
Seat: 28A



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As you can see from the pictures above, JQ’s A332s were previously operated by Qantas and used on their Cityflyer routes which mainly meant SYD/MEL-PER for the A330s. EBB was the second A332 delivered to Qantas, registered on 27 Nov 2002 and Qantas still hold the registration over it. The first 6 A332s delivered to Qantas were -202 versions, designated to be used on domestic routes.


Unlike other JQ boarding passes, the international one didn’t come with a barcode so the traditional ripping off of the stub process was undertaken by the ground staff. I eventually boarded the plane at 11:40, 10 minutes before the scheduled departure and I knew we were obviously never going to leave on time. We all boarded to the same tunes I was greeted to on all my other JQ flights I’ve taken. I specifically chose my seat to be in front of the wing again. It had a good view! The seat itself was very comfortable as you’d hope for on a long haul journey, although my flight wasn’t exactly long haul. The recline was excellent, just as much as the QF A332 had on the flight I’ll be reporting on in my next TR. It went a long way back! And not only that, it was extremely comfortable in full recline.

Down The Jetway
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And A First Look At My First A330 Ride
Star Class
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Economy
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Legroom
View
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JQ Abstract Art Yet Again
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Cabin
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A warm welcome from the flight crew rang out through the cabin with a strange message – pushback and departure would be delayed as a can fell onto the apron, slowing the process down. And so they apologised for that. Then, about 20 minutes later, the pilots came back on over the PA to announce that there was a no show with their bag in the hold. So this created further chatter amongst passengers who were already rather frustrated. I wasn’t bothered one bit because I was able to spend longer onboard the A332 in a nice and fully reclined mode. The welcoming music didn’t take long to start being extremely boring and the yells of “I don’t have a job, I never liked them.. I just wanna play in the sunshine” (The first couple of lines of Thirsty Merc’s song ‘In The Summertime’) started to get to me even though I liked the song. Their playlist isn’t particularly long so soon enough, the 4th, 5th, 6th and possibly 7th repeat of that song was heard. I was making up for lost sleep by resting. I wouldn’t mind flying JQ if they sent these across the Tasman! What surprised me was the fact that they didn’t do the safety briefing while we were all still on the plane. Maybe it’d put their checks etc out of sync but everyone that was flying were onboard and it could have been more efficient.

Boredom Shots – There’s Not Much To Do When Trapped In Your Seat Waiting For Pushback!


[b]View

More Comfortable Wall To Lean On Than The A380


Finally we were told by the pilots that we were about to push back.. But then they said that the QF A380 had just got there first so we had to wait for them to push back (and therefore take off too) before us. But it didn’t take long before we were on the move! There was quite a while between pushback and takeoff. We were stuck behind 2 heavies – somehow the UA 744 snuck in between us and the QF A380. But it was great fun for me watching both of them take off and do the exact flight path out of MEL. One super heavy and one heavy. Then we were to follow them once we got off the ground. So a few minutes after both heavies had departed, it was our turn. I wasn’t sure about what to expect from departure but it was quite a nice powerful one. So powerful that we rotated quite a bit before even reaching the terminal – about the same distance it took the 738 to depart the day before. And just like the 2 heavies that took off before us, we banked right and followed them out of MEL.

QF 744
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New Pier
QF A380 Taking Off
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Wing
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DJ 738
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More Traffic In Front Of Us! UA 744
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Take Off Run
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So Graceful!
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Our Turn
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Lining Up
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Off We Go!
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Melbourne Airport
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Melbourne Essendon Airport
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Soon after takeoff I went for a wander around the cabin, before the cabin crew began their service. It’s a nice plane, different to the 763 I have been used to flying in the past. The cabin looks quite nice, especially for a LCC. Toilets would have remained the same from when it served QF. They only have a few IFE screens – on the bulkhead and some drop down monitors every few rows. For this flight (and I presume every flight as if you want to watch a movie, all you need to do is press the attendant call button and hand over some money for a screen), airshow was operating.

First Economy Section
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Back Of The 2nd Economy Section
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Lav
View From Down The Back
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Back In My Seat
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NSW Countryside


We cruised at 39,000ft for this flight according to the pilots. The cabin crew came around for the buy on board service and seemed much more enthusiastic about selling items than JQ domestic cabin crew. They seemed much more professional too. I turned down buying something (on hindsight I probably should have bought something) in favour of finding something back in Sydney which would cost me less.

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The flight was too short and soon enough, we were starting descent. The worst part of descent is having to incline your seat. I don’t like having to get out of a really comfortable position, similar to what the A330 helped me get into! We were treated to a nice view of Sydney and this time it was clear so we could see for miles. It was a strange approach. We turned due south east as we approached Sydney, out towards the coast around Wollongong then did some funny manoeuvres to line ourselves up with Runway 34L. Touchdown was smooth, albeit very late, and we decelerated quite quickly before taxiing into Gate 35.

Sydney And Airport From Above
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It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11128 times:

Turning To Line Up With The Runway
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CI A330
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Reverse Thrusters
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Our Gate
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Goodbye JQ A332!
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A Future TR?
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All these Australian airports have massive duty free areas you must walk through on your way in our out of the country. Sydney’s no exception – probably the worst of them all! Anyway I was soon through immigration again, down past the baggage reclaim and walked straight to the quarantine officer standing at the express lane where I unwillingly surrendered my boarding pass and was allowed landside. That concludes my first experience on the A330!

Duty Free
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We Were Scheduled To Arrive Before The UA 744..
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Later that evening, I went back to the airport and snapped a few more photos:

FE MD-11
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SQ 77W
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QF A333
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JQ A321
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QF 763
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Conclusion

Flying the A330 is very fun, something I can’t do too often but not too far out of the way to get on. It was lucky that I didn’t have any connecting flights that could have been in jeopardy due to the massive delay of my flight. The flight itself more than made up for the delay and my time onboard was prolonged by about an hour. The crew were good and they fully deserve serving JQ on their A330 and not on their A320/321s. So all in all, it was a very satisfying day for me - being able to try a new aircraft out. My initial thoughts of the A330 were along the lines of “I hope it doesn’t have a faulty pitot tube” but now I am definitely much more reassured about the airworthiness of this great aircraft.

The next TR from me will include another A330 flight, this time on QF, 73G on DJ and also a short E70 flight from CBR-SYD.

I hope you enjoyed this report, it is satisfying sharing my adventures with all of you here! Comments are extremely appreciated. Sorry for the bugs - they're still present and it's still quite annoying.

Regards,
Nicholas


The link to this TR’s album can be found here: http://picasaweb.google.com/bogey.nz...RSYDMELSYDPart4OfJoyridesDownUnder
Search a little deeper and you’ll find other pictures of other TRs.

Previous Trip Reports:
Grabbing A Seat With Air NZ Part 1/2: AKL-ZQN-AKL (by NZ107 Dec 1 2008 in Trip Reports)
Grabbing A Seat With Air NZ Part 2/2: AKL-NPE-AKL (by NZ107 Dec 22 2008 in Trip Reports)
Air New Zealand: NZ105 AKL-SYD Economy (by NZ107 Feb 6 2009 in Trip Reports)
A Whale Of A Time: Emirates A380 Inaugural SYD-AKL (by NZ107 Feb 15 2009 in Trip Reports)
NZ Domestic Competition: Part 1 Air NZ AKL-WLG-AKL (by NZ107 Jun 24 2009 in Trip Reports)
NZ Domestic Competition: Part 2 JQ/DJ AKL (by NZ107 Jul 23 2009 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 1: Air NZ AKL-CHC-AKL (by NZ107 Dec 23 2009 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 2: EK A380 Revisited (by NZ107 Jan 8 2010 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 3: East Coast Adventure (by NZ107 Feb 11 2010 in Trip Reports)



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11122 times:

I tried editing the post but it didn't work so here's the one picture missing:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_cYYIjMZbEQA/S4IKG2-ekJI/AAAAAAAAD4M/yV_awPzsmSY/s800/IMG_6572edit.jpg



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2430 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10670 times:

Hi Nicholas,

Wow! Thank you for sharing such a great insight review of JQ. Awesome pictures you have got here.  

What a striking difference between their entirely and tag on domestic service. I have got the impression that JQ doesn't take the matters that serious on their domestic flights. Good job on you by exercising the conditions of carriage.

I was about considering JQ while traveling Down Under next year. But I think I'll search another option as well.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
not being told off for taking photos got me to the rear entrance of the plane

Good to know!  
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Lav

I like this dark blue interior.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 3):
I tried editing the post but it didn't work so here's the one picture missing:

Pity if we could have not seen it.

Cheers,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5013 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10515 times:

Hi, Nicholas,

really nice to follow another well written, good pictured and warm welcomed story.
Warm also in terms of you´re actual climate, mate, flying in shorts, thats long ago here in middle europe
and I hope that will be possible in a couple of months again.

Congrats to the A330, not bad from my point of view, but I prefer the Boeing Triple anyway.

Looking for the upcoming story now.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: Is there something new for the new countries?.
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4207 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10027 times:

Hi, Nicholas!

Thanks for this good report again. Flying down under seems lot of fun. And cathing an A330 on such a short hop is even better. Did it myself 2 years ago, DUS-MUC on an A332. Nice to catch the type, but it was on AB, terrible legroom, so no way for me to fly that machine longhaul!
I must point out again, that the picture quality is very good! Making it an overall interesting story.

Regards,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4738 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9829 times:

Gosh... What a journey. It has been a while since I have done such multi-flight itineraries. Great pictures too!


Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9810 times:

Another great trip report Nicholas.

What camera do you use as the photos are very good.

I have flown SYD-MEL on Jetstar International A330-200 twice last year, flying the A332 was nice but I was more interested in doing it for the nice lounge access in Sydney.

Maybe I should do a trip report but my photos aren't as good.



Why fly non stop when you can connect
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9478 times:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 4):
Thank you for sharing such a great insight review of JQ. Awesome pictures you have got here

My pleasure Suryo! Thanks for commenting!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 4):
I was about considering JQ while traveling Down Under next year. But I think I'll search another option as well.

Getting to Australia or travelling around Australia? Yeah, the delay wouldn't have been pleasant for many passengers on that flight.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 5):
really nice to follow another well written, good pictured and warm welcomed story.
Warm also in terms of you´re actual climate, mate, flying in shorts, thats long ago here in middle europe
and I hope that will be possible in a couple of months again.

Hi Markus,

Thanks for your comments!

Yep, still in shorts! My possible upcoming trip in April could also easily be done in shorts!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 5):
Congrats to the A330, not bad from my point of view, but I prefer the Boeing Triple anyway.

Seeing that QF/JQ doesn't have any 777s, there wasn't an alternative. VA have 77Ws but don't operate them domestically - something that could have happened but either way it may not have seemed to be bookable anyway. I haven't travelled on either enough - twice on the A330 and once on a 77W but I did thoroughly enjoy the 77W flight I took 3 years ago.

I'm not sure about when my next TR will be available online - I'm a long way behind schedule on these and uni starts again on Monday. Easter is my next holiday but that's when I'll possibly be flying out to Aussie again!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6):
Flying down under seems lot of fun. And cathing an A330 on such a short hop is even better

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your comments! Yes, flying down under was a lot of fun. I'm glad QF and JQ have A330s on the MEL-SYD route or I may have had to travel to PER to experience the A330!

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 7):
Gosh... What a journey. It has been a while since I have done such multi-flight itineraries. Great pictures too!

Thanks for commenting Ryan! It's not over yet either  
Quoting BNE" class="quote" target="_blank">BNE (Reply 8):
What camera do you use as the photos are very good.

I have flown SYD-MEL on Jetstar International A330-200 twice last year, flying the A332 was nice but I was more interested in doing it for the nice lounge access in Sydney.

Hi BNE,

Thanks for your comments!

I use a Canon EOS 400D - that in itself can explain the quality of the pictures! Oh yes, good idea - next time my grandad goes to Australia, I'll shout him a trip to MEL so I can pig out in the lounges! All for cheap too!


Thanks again for your comments everyone!

Regards,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9335 times:

Hi Nicholas,

another excellent report with many great shots, well done! I really need to get a new camera soon.

Nice to get an impression of the ex-QF A332s. I flew on VH-EBA between MEL and SYD back in 2006.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Or alternatively, you could just watch the Airshow channel which has ads in between but at least it’s provided. You can also dim your TV right out so you can have some peace without the screen constantly flashing at you.

Sounds good, definitely better than on my recent CO 739ER flight.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
A New Nose Already?

Oh no, that looks terrible!

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
The next TR from me will include another A330 flight, this time on QF, 73G on DJ and also a short E70 flight from CBR-SYD.

Very interesting!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 9):
I'm not sure about when my next TR will be available online - I'm a long way behind schedule on these and uni starts again on Monday. Easter is my next holiday but that's when I'll possibly be flying out to Aussie again!

Don't worry, I also have to write two more TRs about 2009 flights. The last part of my US series won't be online until the end of next week - after a journey to Dubai and Hongkong.  


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineairpearl From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 943 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9159 times:

Hey Nicholas

The journey continues! Thanks much for this entertaining saga - and some excellent pictures too, as always. And congratulations too on your first A330 flight.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
This 737-800 is slightly newer (half a month) than the one I travelled on the previous day – registered on 4 September 2003.

Haha... memories. VH-VON was the only Virgin Blue plane I had flown on - back in 2006 on a very packed flight between PER and MEL. According to my records, I was sat at 26A, in the seat just ahead of the one you took. No PTVs in those days.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
started to get to me even though I liked the song. Their playlist isn’t particularly long so soon enough, the 4th, 5th, 6th and possibly 7th repeat of that song was heard.

It's a bit like travelling on AirAsia then haha... you'll be prepared when they get to NZ!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Soon after takeoff I went for a wander around the cabin, before the cabin crew began their service. It’s a nice plane, different to the 763 I have been used to flying in the past.

It looks like a rather nice cabin - not a bad way to be travelling longer.

Look forward to your next

Cheers,
airpearl


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 9113 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
another excellent report with many great shots, well done! I really need to get a new camera soon.

Hi PH,

Thanks for your comments! There are some decent cameras out there which aren't DSLRs but I'm sure a nice DSLR like mine with a nice zoom lens would help you and your spotting! I took out my 70-300mm lens inside the plane to take pics while waiting for take off and I found that very useful. But you'd probably look for something more compact because my camera takes a lot more effort to take around.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Nice to get an impression of the ex-QF A332s.

I decided a few weeks after booking the SYD-OOL-MEL-SYD and SYD-MEL-CBR-SYD flights that I'd chuck this one in as I would have had a chance to fly TT as well. But the TT never eventuated and so I got a good impression of both JQ's and QF's A332s in the end! And hopefully you will get the impression of that cabin when I get around to it..

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Oh no, that looks terrible!

It surprises me that basically all the external spare parts (cowlings, noses) are grey and most liveries tend to be white.. The A380 certainly looks worse than a 747 with a temporary nose!

Quoting airpearl (Reply 11):
The journey continues! Thanks much for this entertaining saga - and some excellent pictures too, as always. And congratulations too on your first A330 flight.

Hey Airpearl,

Thanks for commenting! Glad you enjoyed it. It was very enjoyable to finally try the A330 and it surely lived up to its expectations. A nice aircraft to fly in.

Quoting airpearl (Reply 11):
Haha... memories. VH-VON was the only Virgin Blue plane I had flown on - back in 2006 on a very packed flight between PER and MEL. According to my records, I was sat at 26A, in the seat just ahead of the one you took. No PTVs in those days.

Ouch.. A long flight in that plane! I'm sure I'd only fly QF on a flight to PER (in an A330 of course!) unless the price difference was so great that I would be forced to choose DJ. I hope the windows weren't as dirty when you flew on it.

Quoting airpearl (Reply 11):
It's a bit like travelling on AirAsia then haha... you'll be prepared when they get to NZ!

Hopefully I won't be stuck on the tarmac for over an hour! What kind of music do they play? Some popular Malay songs?

Quoting airpearl (Reply 11):
It looks like a rather nice cabin - not a bad way to be travelling longer.

Indeed. I think I'd be quite happy to be flying even 8 hours (or more) in this plane. But I'm more of a traditionalist and I'd prefer getting meals onboard that are nothing like what you can get at home - I like plane food!


Regards,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1653 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8747 times:

Hi Nicholas!

Congrats on your first A332 experience, which came with another fantastic TR to document it!
If you ask me, it was a great ending to this part after the nasty Tiger drama that happened prior.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
The Self Service Kiosk

For some reason, i always love the self-service kiosk pictures that you take .. Great!

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Their system is called Live2Air which gives you a free preview of quite a few FoxTel channels until just after takeoff where you have to swipe your credit card and pay $7 to keep viewing these channels.

That is just mean!

I cam only compare to Jet Blue, and they offer free satellite TV on board. But you do have to pay for certain movies.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Nice View Of Sydney
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Bondi Beach Under Winglet

Ah! Memories! I want to go back to SYD!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Tiger Terminal

Looks quite interesting! ..

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
the company puts all these people in such bad situations in a way I feel sorry for them

I'd love to know more!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
A New Nose Already?

LOL .. she looks so depressed!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Star Class

Haha .. Martinair's Business Class product was called Star Class too.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
The flight was too short and soon enough, we were starting descent. The worst part of descent is having to incline your seat. I don’t like having to get out of a really comfortable position, similar to what the A330 helped me get into!

And after reclining your seat for so long throughout the flight, it always feels like you are leaning uncomfortably forward when you only incline the seat upright.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
A Future TR?

YES Please! ... This has you written all over it!

Thanks a lot for sharing this. Great work as always my friend.

Looking forward to the next one!

Cheers,
Roni



A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8430 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8432 times:
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Hi Nicholas,

Finally got around to the last of your series, all have been great fun to read.

Looks like Tiger have been having some real issues, not heard a good thing about them operating in Australia.

Rest of the flights looked fine, good to get your first A330, a lovely plane.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
The time: 6:00am. I’m not used to these super early wake ups, especially when on holiday! But when catching a plane, you’re left with no alternative!

- Quite correct!

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
A Future TR?

- Not by me now, plans have changed, will not be heading down under in 2010.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
The next TR from me will include another A330 flight, this time on QF, 73G on DJ and also a short E70 flight from CBR-SYD.

- Excellent, I trust the QF 330 is a -300 model?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 5):
Congrats to the A330, not bad from my point of view, but I prefer the Boeing Triple anyway.

- No chance Markus, 330 anyday over a noisy 777!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineEconojetter From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 430 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8345 times:

Another enjoyable trip report from you Nicholas. Thank you.

JQ looks quite good. I wouldn't mind trying them one day. I've done few trips on their sister airline 3K; no complaints so far.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Are We That Far Inland?
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_cYYIjMZbEQA/S4IKPFK_dpI/AAAAAAAAD4w/wr-Sr6GjBY4/s800/IMG_6582edit.jpg
It gets tricky when the aircraft icon is this big relative to the map. Already, from nose to tail, the B738 "stretches" from CBR to SYD.  http://lh6.ggpht.com/_cYYIjMZbEQA/S4IMJO1LCOI/AAAAAAAAD-4/jCC5AWOhBYQ/s800/IMG_6778edit.jpg
QF6020 from Toulouse... a delivery flight (A380)?

Thanks again. Looking for ward to more reports from you.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8209 times:

Quoting ronerone (Reply 13):
Congrats on your first A332 experience, which came with another fantastic TR to document it!
If you ask me, it was a great ending to this part after the nasty Tiger drama that happened prior.
Quoting ronerone (Reply 13):
Thanks a lot for sharing this. Great work as always my friend.

Hey Roni,

Not a problem! Thanks for your comments! It was a very nice end to my travels that day. I reckon I could have boarded and talked to the Tiger customer service rep during that gap!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 13):
For some reason, i always love the self-service kiosk pictures that you take .. Great!

Don't worry, plenty more coming in the life of my trip reporting, I can promise you that!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 13):
That is just mean!

I guess people realise that there's not much point in DJ increasing fares just to make TV free - the channels are FoxTel ones, ie if you were on the ground, you'd pay for subscription anyway. But I'd like to see them introduce free TV for those routes which are going to compete against the QF A330 ie PER-SYD/MEL. That might be something to entice more customers.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 13):
Ah! Memories! I want to go back to SYD!

Come back down under! It's a nonstop flight, you know that! Not only that but you have a choice of EK or EY!  
Quoting ronerone (Reply 13):
I'd love to know more!

As there are no customer service reps, managers or the like, they're the ones who have to deal with all the raging and complaining. And there's not much they can really do about things either. It seems like it'd be just as useful placing robots in their position.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 13):
Haha .. Martinair's Business Class product was called Star Class too.

Was it any better than JQ?

Quoting ronerone (Reply 13):
And after reclining your seat for so long throughout the flight, it always feels like you are leaning uncomfortably forward when you only incline the seat upright.

Yeah, one really annoying feeling. But it could actually be true as you're descending!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 13):
YES Please! ... This has you written all over it!

Haha, I wish I had more time/replanned the previous trip. It could have been those A340s instead of another couple of A380 flights..

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 14):
Finally got around to the last of your series, all have been great fun to read.

Hey Mark,

Glad you enjoyed, thanks for your comments!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 14):
Looks like Tiger have been having some real issues, not heard a good thing about them operating in Australia.

I've heard a couple but that's a slim wedge in comparison to all the negative stories. And actually experiencing quite a bit of it yourself isn't pleasant at all.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 14):
Rest of the flights looked fine, good to get your first A330, a lovely plane.

It sure is. One that I could be able to fly a little bit more! (D7 to NZ, QF on Aussie-AKL-LAX possibly)

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 14):
Not by me now, plans have changed, will not be heading down under in 2010.

That's a shame. I guess I'll have to cover it sometime  
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 14):
- Excellent, I trust the QF 330 is a -300 model?

Unfortunately another -200... And when I say unfortunately, it's not really unfortunately because I ended up getting an international configured one with PTVs and the A332 is better than any other regular plane on the SYD-MEL route! I could have paid to get on the A333 instead of the 738 in the previous TR but in the end, I decided trying out the QF 738 would have been just as nice.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 14):
No chance Markus, 330 anyday over a noisy 777!

I wish I had more flights under my belt to compare these 2 wonderful planes!

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
Another enjoyable trip report from you Nicholas. Thank you.

Hey Econojetter,

You're welcome! Thanks for your comments! Glad you enjoyed.

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
JQ looks quite good. I wouldn't mind trying them one day.

JQ International is one rung above JQ domestic, or so I feel. I think I wouldn't mind even flying the MEL-BKK on JQ A332.

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
It gets tricky when the aircraft icon is this big relative to the map. Already, from nose to tail, the B738 "stretches" from CBR to SYD.

Yes, it does.. But I have a feeling that the "plane" follows the direct route towards the destination anyway so it renders any synchronisation between the view and the tv useless!

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
QF6020 from Toulouse... a delivery flight (A380)?

It was the delivery of an A332. I went back to the airport that evening (you can see the plane pics at the end of the report) to try and catch it but it never came in the timespan I was there for..


Thanks again for your comments!

Regards,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8430 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8188 times:
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Quoting NZ107 (Reply 16):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 14):
Not by me now, plans have changed, will not be heading down under in 2010.

That's a shame. I guess I'll have to cover it sometime

- Yes,a real shame so get yourself booked, I'm looking forward to the TR already!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 16):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 14):
- Excellent, I trust the QF 330 is a -300 model?

Unfortunately another -200... And when I say unfortunately, it's not really unfortunately because I ended up getting an international configured one with PTVs and the A332 is better than any other regular plane on the SYD-MEL route!

- Ah well, another A330 is another one under the belt, all good!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 16):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 14):
No chance Markus, 330 anyday over a noisy 777!

I wish I had more flights under my belt to compare these 2 wonderful planes!

- All in good time my friend!

Best Wishes

Mark



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7907 times:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 17):
so get yourself booked, I'm looking forward to the TR already!

Don't get your hopes up too quickly!   I'm still searching for the right time to do it. But hopefully I can squeeze in a flight around Easter.. Finance dependent too.

Yes, all in good time!


Cheers,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8430 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7856 times:
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Quoting NZ107 (Reply 18):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 17):
so get yourself booked, I'm looking forward to the TR already!

Don't get your hopes up too quickly! I'm still searching for the right time to do it. But hopefully I can squeeze in a flight around Easter.. Finance dependent too.

- I'll calm down a bit then, boy this will be a good one when it comes around.

Cheers Nicholas.

Mark



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