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Egyptian Style CAI-FRA Scheduled On The A332  
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5162 posts, RR: 55
Posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15371 times:

Egyptian style CAI-FRA scheduled on the A332


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Ahlan wa sahlan, dear readers,

if you missed the inbound leg to CAI, here´s the link

Bound For The Pyramids On The A346 (by FLIEGER67 Feb 24 2010 in Trip Reports)

Sunny and warm weather conditions, unbelievable for us Europeans, 28 degrees and only light clouds, welcomed me after an very early breakfast at th hotel.
The first impression in the breakfast room was like I´am in Asia.
A large tour group from Korea was there and so it seems, no one else.
Some more pictures from the hotel and the surroundings and than it was time to pick up my belongings,
check-out and returning to the airport.

Heliopolis from the non-fixed rooftop area
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Spot the airport in the distance
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The nice hotel terrace
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Hotel interior
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The hotel front
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Traffic, old Peugeots and donkey cars
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This time the hotel arranged the transfer for me, much appreciated here.
Without any hassles at the airport some two hours prior to departure.


Monday, 15.02.2010


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Service MS 785 operated by Egypt Air
Scheduled: 10.35 // 14.10 = 4 hours, 35 minutes (1 hour time difference)
Actual: 10.40 // 14.15 = 4 hours, 35 minutes


CAI Terminal 3 is an impressive building, large, spacious and clean landside
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And CAI is also the second busiest airport in Africa at all.
No. 1 is still hold by JNB´s Tambo airport.
There wasn´t any control at the entrance, but when you walk in direction check-in desks you need to pass a baggage check, where all the suitcases gone screened.
No problem and further to the desks, MS to FRA and MUC at the same counters.
No time to wait, a young male at the biz counter waved me in.
I´ve asked to change my window seat for the last row, no problem and so I´ve hold an classic boarding pass with seatnumber 39A some seconds later.
Also no time to wait at security, it seems I was lucky today.
And again at passport control, no wait, where a very friendly female officer stamped my passport.
CAI T3 offers nice views through the tinted windows to the apron from the central building,
with a good number of MS planes parked side by side
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And the other side with especially that A342 caught my attention
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Walking down to locate my gate along the old terminal 1
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and with a nice view to that compilation of MS planes
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A view to the screen shows a number of MS departures
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and another view with my flight from gate F8 on schedule
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Definitely nice terminal architecture here, opened only in spring 2009
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A good number of pax all around, looks like a busy day fo the airport and especially MS here.
Guess, what´s my favourite machine?
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CAI operates like some UK airports with that wait-in-lounge system.
Boarding passes checked at the entrance to the gate waiting area and also another security check.
I´ve dont asked about the machine type for my flight and in accordance with the row numbers it might be a
widebody machine for FRA?
But no way, a first view from the gate windows showed me a 737-800 parked at the finger.
What a disgrace, the scheduled A332 or much better a switch to the A342, that will be perfect.
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Another MS heavy heading for the runway
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A SIA 777-200 parked on the apron leaving later for DXB and SIN with an desert painted Hercules
going on another military mission above.
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Much lower than the civil planes
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/ET1001/ET1001065.jpg
And the guys working my machine with good egyptian stuff
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Count that workers on the apron. Such a huge number of service staff, unbelievable in Germany.
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SU-GCZ was the 738´s registration, delivered new to MS at 07.02.2009,
leg no. 43 for me ontype and a new registration.
A Saudi triple arrived soon thereafter
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And earlier than expected, boarding started for my 4 hours, 15 minutes ride to FRA.
I like these egyptian coulours
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Another view to the SIA machine towed to the gate beside me
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And a last glance of that good looking A342
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The cabin was fitted with mixed blue green fabric seats, legroom ok and also clean so far.
Three female and also three male FA´s doing the service here, ok, but nothing special.
And also three security guys joined my flight.
The load factor was 100%, nothing else expected with that downgrade from the much larger A332,
also the two seats beside me in the last row taken and much to my disappointment, one of the security guys took 39D, not the best look forward for nice pictures.
But he´s doing a good job, reading his newspaper, drinking beer and that along the whole flight.
Were heading for the 3999 meters runway 23C with a view to another Saudi machine
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and also the long time parked Midwest A310
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A long departure follows, it feels like running on the A340
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with a very nice view above the sandy city surroundings
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the nile river and the city itself
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and warm welcomed, the pyramids directly between the green city and the yellow desert
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Well, thats what I call a nice departure routing
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And a last view to the mighty historic sights
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Following the nile valley in direction Alexandria, the landscape differences good to follow
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Impressive that colour change here
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Close to Alexandria and the med now
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And that was my time in Africa
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The egyptian pilot welcomed us with a detailed information talk short after departure
and also short thereafter a first round of drinks and peanuts started
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Were going further to Crete-ATH-TIA-SJJ-ZAG-GRZ and MUC at 36000 feet.
Crete with some snowy mountains here
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Another view above that nice greece island
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and also the town and the airport of Heraklion
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Not to forget the usual view at the safety card
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and a view to the cabin itself
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The guy in the middle seat beside me was a kind of heavier one, so comfort was somewhat limited on these flight.
Reaching now mainland Greece somewhere around Athens
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where the FA´s serviced the main menu.
Looking better than LH´s yesterday isn´t it?.
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With that fully loaded plane it need´s ages till they cleared the tray´s, immediatelly followed by a heavy line
for the restrooms.
Weather around the alps looks also not bad here
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Not far thereafter we passed MUC and the approach into FRA´s 4000 meter runway 25R started, where we landed finally nearly ontime back in snowy Germany, with according to the lead FA´s announcement - 1 degrees and high clouds.
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A goodbye picture to my seat
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and a last view to my plane after disembarking at a finger gate into Terminal 1 B
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with well known D-AIRX in the background.
Not that long to wait at immigration today and a surprise, at least for me, at baggage reclaim.
Only a low number of pax there, so it seems the majority heading further on connecting flights
with me awaited more point to point traffic on this route.

My overall impression about MS was good.
CAI T3 is a nice piece of airport architecture, the plane in good conditions, ontime, the only complaint was the downgrade from the A332, something missing in my log till now.

So, a busy schedule ahead, 41 legs to go during the next three months.
Countries in order to visit:
Morocco
Italy
Tunisia
Italy
France
Spain
Poland
France
Bosnia
and the UK.

"A rough landing in Marrakech on RAM", that will be the title for the next story.

Comments welcome
Markus (FLIEGER67)


Next: The eastern Intersky!.
24 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15282 times:

It would have been interesting to see what the 4D Air Sinai plane looked like. I never saw a thing when I took off and landed. Thanks for the nice pictures.

User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15245 times:

Hi Markus,

I have been waiting for this report. It looks like you have had a great time in CAI. Your hotel looks pretty decent and comfortable. Did you consult TripAdvisor for this one?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
But no way, a first view from the gate windows showed me a 737-800 parked at the finger.

Bummer. I would have loved reading your MS A332 experience as I have been on MS 738 myself, even it was on a short leg.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
But he´s doing a good job, reading his newspaper, drinking beer and that along the whole flight.

Beer? You probably mean alcohol free beer. MS is a dry airline, AFAIK.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Looking better than LH´s yesterday isn´t it?.

It looks yummy and indeed more generous.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My overall impression about MS was good.
CAI T3 is a nice piece of airport architecture, the plane in good conditions, ontime,
MS did not disappoint me as well and I agree with you on CAI T3.

Nice report, Markus. It brings back all the memories again. Thank you for sharing.

Cheers,
Suryo

[Edited 2010-03-04 08:17:10]


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User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26941 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 14984 times:

Great report as usual nice to see MS are decent. Would love to fly them sometime. Especially since they are Star.

Food looked decent also . Some nice photos of the A/C and CAI.

Also some nice reports to come which I look forward to .

Regards

Philip


User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6557 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 14864 times:

Very nice report Marcus! Too bad with the aircraft substitution from 332 to 738, especially since the 332 is still missing in your log.......

Egyptair looks pretty good; I had a nice flight on them a few years ago BKK-MNL-NRT on their 777. Terminal three in CAI looks very nice as well.

Looking forward to your next report! Marocco should very interesting!

The777Man



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User currently offlinecakentennis From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 14817 times:

Good report and nice pictures! Is the MS international Y product fairly consistent throughout their fleet? 4 hours without a PTV seems okay, but I think in the longer flights this might be an issue for me.

User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 14780 times:

Hi Markus,

Interesting second part on your quickie to Egypt. Too bad about the equipment downgrade, but at least it was still EgyptAir and not a rebooking to Luftwaffe or something...

That urban sprawl of Cairo is just unbelievable, slowly but surely eating away the desert.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
But he´s doing a good job, reading his newspaper, drinking beer and that along the whole flight.

Beer? Err, MS is a dry airline. And besides, drinking on the job isn't the way to a long and successful career... especially not in Egypt, I'd imagine.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Were heading for the 3999 meters runway 23C with a view to another Saudi machine

Nice photo, that MD-90 is a very beautiful plane.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
So, a busy schedule ahead, 41 legs to go during the next three months.

Hah, beat you to it! 47 segments in the next three months, with a couple of ones still to book. Plus 21 booked beyond that  

Eagerly waiting for the Moroccan adventure! I'm off to Berlin/Turkey/London on Saturday!


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5162 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 14306 times:

Hey, nice to follow all that comments.

@lychemsa:

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 1):
It would have been interesting to see what the 4D Air Sinai plane looked like. I never saw a thing when I took off and landed. Thanks for the nice pictures.

Thank you.

@Suryo:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2):
I have been waiting for this report. It looks like you have had a great time in CAI. Your hotel looks pretty decent and comfortable. Did you consult TripAdvisor for this one?

Thank you and the hotel was definitely a good one, not a real surprise according to the TA ranking.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2):
Bummer. I would have loved reading your MS A332 experience as I have been on MS 738 myself, even it was on a short leg.

Definitely, the major negative point around these trip.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2):
Beer? You probably mean alcohol free beer. MS is a dry airline, AFAIK.

Well, it looks like and also smells like beer, so it seems some alco free one´s.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2):
It looks yummy and indeed more generous.

Also my impression.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2):
MS did not disappoint me as well and I agree with you on CAI T3.

Nice report, Markus. It brings back all the memories again. Thank you for sharing.

Thanx again for reading and you´re comment.

@Phil:

Quoting oa260 (Reply 3):
Great report as usual nice to see MS are decent. Would love to fly them sometime. Especially since they are Star.

Food looked decent also . Some nice photos of the A/C and CAI.

Also some nice reports to come which I look forward to .

Thank you and good point with that Star thing. I need to check my account now.

@Lars:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Very nice report Marcus! Too bad with the aircraft substitution from 332 to 738, especially since the 332 is still missing in your log.......

Thank you and I need the A332, for sure.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Egyptair looks pretty good; I had a nice flight on them a few years ago BKK-MNL-NRT on their 777. Terminal three in CAI looks very nice as well.

Good to know about that BKK-MNL-NRT run.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 4):
Looking forward to your next report! Marocco should very interesting!

Coming up soon, still unter production now.

@cakentennis:

Quoting cakentennis (Reply 5):
Good report and nice pictures! Is the MS international Y product fairly consistent throughout their fleet? 4 hours without a PTV seems okay, but I think in the longer flights this might be an issue for me.

Thank you and me, too, PTV is warm welcomed on longer flights, especially with the route map.

@P.:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
Interesting second part on your quickie to Egypt. Too bad about the equipment downgrade, but at least it was still EgyptAir and not a rebooking to Luftwaffe or something...

Thank you and good idea, the desert Herc at the gate, warm welcomed.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
That urban sprawl of Cairo is just unbelievable, slowly but surely eating away the desert.

It was a real stunning view from above with these major colour differences.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
Beer? Err, MS is a dry airline. And besides, drinking on the job isn't the way to a long and successful career... especially not in Egypt, I'd imagine.

It smells and looks like beer, at least from my point of view!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
Nice photo, that MD-90 is a very beautiful plane.

Something to catch also for me, maybe on Blue1 HEL-MXP.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
Hah, beat you to it! 47 segments in the next three months, with a couple of ones still to book. Plus 21 booked beyond that

Real nice to see something more coming up, let me know about it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
Eagerly waiting for the Moroccan adventure! I'm off to Berlin/Turkey/London on Saturday!

Still in the production line and wish you no delays/disruptions or anything else for the weekend.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: The eastern Intersky!.
User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8534 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 14173 times:
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Hi Markus,

Good to read your return trip, shame about the downgrade to the 738, always dissapointing when you miss out on a new type of machine for the log book.

The Airbus 340-200 does indeed look sweet, aiming to try and get one under the belt this year all being well.

Have to say not at all keen on the seat fabric colours, quite yuck!

Food does indeed look better than LH.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
much to my disappointment, one of the security guys took 39D, not the best look forward for nice pictures.
But he´s doing a good job, reading his newspaper, drinking beer and that along the whole flight

- Great to see he's doing a good job!

Cheers Markus, looking forward to the next reports.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineegyptair269 From Egypt, joined Mar 2007, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13991 times:

Great TR, thanks, I've been anticipating this.

Happy to hear you had a good experience on MS and in Egypt, you are most welcome to come again.

Sorry to hear you were downsized to a B738 though, if it helps, I made a TR on an MS A330 trip which you can see (Just go to my profile and find it, and if you cant, tell me and I'll post a link here).

Quoting cakentennis (Reply 5):
Good report and nice pictures! Is the MS international Y product fairly consistent throughout their fleet? 4 hours without a PTV seems okay, but I think in the longer flights this might be an issue for me.

Currently, this is what the entire MS Y product is like, however, in a few days, MS is receiving its first of 6 77Ws, which will include PTVs, On-board internet and Mobile Communication and a USB port in all classes, as well as a new lie-flat business class product. Above that, they have ordered 8 A330-300s with the same interior features.


User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13934 times:

Hi Markus,

thank you for another great report - good to hear that you liked MS.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
one of the security guys took 39D, not the best look forward for nice pictures.
But he´s doing a good job, reading his newspaper, drinking beer and that along the whole flight.

You were lucky indeed. As far as I know, taking pictures at airports in Egypt might be a problem in some situations. Good to read that you didn't have any difficulties.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
and also the long time parked Midwest A310

Interesting - as far as I remember, it was already there when I visited CAI four years ago.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13928 times:

Hi Markus,

what a bummer, that downgrade. And indeed, the A342 would've been the obvious better replacement but you're not lucky.
I really like the seating design, meal is very good for Y-class style and their safetycard is taken from Air France design. Good to follow your experience on MS. I think more and more European flights will see the new B738's now, also AMS switched to all B738, were in the past a mix of A320/321 and even A342/B772 came along.

Regards,
Eric



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User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2758 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 13086 times:

Another nice read to go along with my breakfast.

Bummer about the downgrade, I too would have been peed off having to go from Wibebody to narrowbody, specially since I am not really a fan of 738s

The service looks good and CAI airport also look very nice, but the seats... YUCK... very 70ish.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
"A rough landing in Marrakech on RAM", that will be the title for the next story.

How about... RAMmed the runway? 

Cheers

MIAspotter



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User currently offlineInfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1451 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12990 times:

Hi Markus,

I agree with all the others, how annoying to get downgraded. That's 3 disapponitments in 4 trips, so I guess your bad luck should be over now. They say everything comes in threes.

Pretty impressive meal for a flight of that length in Y. Nice to see thesedays.

Some really nice shots of Greece and the Alps - one forgets just how high some of those mountains on Crete are.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 12):
How about... RAMmed the runway?

Great stuff   

Happy flying
Infodesk



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6417 posts, RR: 38
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12952 times:

Hi Markus,

Thanks for another nice and enjoyable TR! Unfortunate about the downgrade from a widebody.. And being squished against the window in the last row of a 737 for 4 hours!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Sunny and warm weather conditions, unbelievable for us Europeans, 28 degrees and only light clouds

Would have been a shock to arrive back in FRA in sub-zero temperatures then!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
So, a busy schedule ahead, 41 legs to go during the next three months.

Woah, what a schedule.. I'd love to be doing that much flying as would most of us reading these. Just hope you don't get delayed again!

Looking forward to your next trip.

Regards,
Nicholas



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User currently offlinesdate747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 12449 times:

departure out of CAI is dramatic.. all the buildings are the color of the sand that surrounds them and any patch of green can only mean you're near the Nile or one of its canals. During my departures from CAI I have invariably been able to notice the city and the hotel I was staying at, situated somewhere along the Corniche. I wonder how much Egypt Air is going to elevate its game in the coming years now that it is a Star member.

User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5088 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 12438 times:

Markus,

Amazing report. Thanks for sharing your experience. I am surprised with how well MS held up. The food definitely looks good for YCL. The new terminal has made such a difference from what CAI used to be.

Looking forward to the next few ones.

Saludos,
A.



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5162 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12197 times:

Hey, more replys, real nice.

@Mark:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):
Good to read your return trip, shame about the downgrade to the 738, always dissapointing when you miss out on a new type of machine for the log book.

The Airbus 340-200 does indeed look sweet, aiming to try and get one under the belt this year all being well.

Thank you and hopefully no changes with that A342, also well searched here.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):
Cheers Markus, looking forward to the next reports.

Still under production, you know.

@egyptair269:

Quoting egyptair269 (Reply 9):
Great TR, thanks, I've been anticipating this.

Happy to hear you had a good experience on MS and in Egypt, you are most welcome to come again.

Thank you and indeed I ´am looking for more EgyptAir, especially to catch that A342.

Quoting egyptair269 (Reply 9):
Sorry to hear you were downsized to a B738 though, if it helps, I made a TR on an MS A330 trip which you can see (Just go to my profile and find it, and if you cant, tell me and I'll post a link here).

Good to know about you´re trip, it seems I know that story.

Quoting egyptair269 (Reply 9):
Currently, this is what the entire MS Y product is like, however, in a few days, MS is receiving its first of 6 77Ws, which will include PTVs, On-board internet and Mobile Communication and a USB port in all classes, as well as a new lie-flat business class product. Above that, they have ordered 8 A330-300s with the same interior features.

Thanx a lot for the update.

@Christoph:

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 10):
thank you for another great report - good to hear that you liked MS.

Thank you.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 10):
You were lucky indeed. As far as I know, taking pictures at airports in Egypt might be a problem in some situations. Good to read that you didn't have any difficulties.

Be quiet and not that offensive, so no problems at all.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 10):
Interesting - as far as I remember, it was already there when I visited CAI four years ago.

Four years parked, amazing.

@Eric:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 11):
what a bummer, that downgrade. And indeed, the A342 would've been the obvious better replacement but you're not lucky.

Definitely, that A342 is something to catch soon.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 11):
I really like the seating design, meal is very good for Y-class style and their safetycard is taken from Air France design. Good to follow your experience on MS. I think more and more European flights will see the new B738's now, also AMS switched to all B738, were in the past a mix of A320/321 and even A342/B772 came along.

Day 6 and 7 runs on the 332 to FRA, the weekdays on the 738 by now.

@Christian:

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 12):
Another nice read to go along with my breakfast.

Thank you for reading.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 12):
Bummer about the downgrade, I too would have been peed off having to go from Wibebody to narrowbody, specially since I am not really a fan of 738s

For sure, I wasn´t amused when I saw that 738 at the gate.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 12):
How about... RAMmed the runway?

Something like this, stay tuned!

@Hannah:

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 13):
I agree with all the others, how annoying to get downgraded. That's 3 disapponitments in 4 trips, so I guess your bad luck should be over now. They say everything comes in threes.

Good point, so it seems no problems around the 18th.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 13):
Pretty impressive meal for a flight of that length in Y. Nice to see thesedays.

Some really nice shots of Greece and the Alps - one forgets just how high some of those mountains on Crete are.

Thank you and I was also surprised above Crete.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 13):
Great stuff

Also my opinion.

@Nocholas:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 14):

Thanks for another nice and enjoyable TR! Unfortunate about the downgrade from a widebody.. And being squished against the window in the last row of a 737 for 4 hours!

Thank you.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 14):
Would have been a shock to arrive back in FRA in sub-zero temperatures then!

Well it was a huge difference and much more with you´re summer stories in mind.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 14):
Woah, what a schedule.. I'd love to be doing that much flying as would most of us reading these. Just hope you don't get delayed again!

Looking forward to your next trip.

More coming up soon now.

@Saurabh:

Quoting sdate747 (Reply 15):
departure out of CAI is dramatic.. all the buildings are the color of the sand that surrounds them and any patch of green can only mean you're near the Nile or one of its canals. During my departures from CAI I have invariably been able to notice the city and the hotel I was staying at, situated somewhere along the Corniche. I wonder how much Egypt Air is going to elevate its game in the coming years now that it is a Star member.

Thanx for you´re comment.
It was really amazing, flying out of CAI this way.

@Alex:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 16):
Amazing report. Thanks for sharing your experience. I am surprised with how well MS held up. The food definitely looks good for YCL. The new terminal has made such a difference from what CAI used to be.

Looking forward to the next few ones.

Thank you and indeed the old terminal looks much more like Egypt than the new T3.
More coming up soon.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6757 posts, RR: 77
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 11839 times:

Hi Markus,

nice second part of your journey to Egypt. Bad to hear about the downgrade, I'd hate that, too. In contrast to others here I like the MS seat design - it's a bit different from the usual stuff.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´ve dont asked about the machine type for my flight and in accordance with the row numbers it might be a
widebody machine for FRA?

39 rows would be really low for an A330.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Looking better than LH´s yesterday isn´t it?.

Yes indeed. I guess it was chicken?


PH



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5162 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11425 times:

Hey, PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
nice second part of your journey to Egypt. Bad to hear about the downgrade, I'd hate that, too.

Thank you and with that downgrade, for sure, me, too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
39 rows would be really low for an A330.

But at least still some hope to catch anything else!.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
Yes indeed. I guess it was chicken?

Yes, it smells like chicken.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1672 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11052 times:

Hey there,
Great follow-up, thanks for sharing. Quite a bit of spotting you did there. Sorry to hear about you getting the 738-but MS seems fond of downgrading the FRA 330 to a 737 frequently.
Thanks for sharing
Rgrds,
DG


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5162 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10613 times:

Hey, Omar,

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 20):
Great follow-up, thanks for sharing.

Thank you.

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 20):
MS seems fond of downgrading the FRA 330 to a 737 frequently.

So it seems, more and more flights switched from the A332 to the 738 nowadays.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1818 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10014 times:

Very Nice Trip Report, but title was misleading! I expected an A332. Nevertheless, a 738 is still a good plane. I was expecting them to have some sort of IFE screens with the new planes like RJ.

The A332 wouldve been a better plane, but oh well, maybe on the return flight.



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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9818 times:

Hi Markus,

Downgraded from an A332 to a B738, what a shame! However, it's still a very enjoyable trip report.   Thanks for sharing!



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5162 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9651 times:

Hey, nice to see some more comments.

@QatarA340:

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 22):

Very Nice Trip Report, but title was misleading! I expected an A332.
Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 22):
The A332 wouldve been a better plane,

Thank you and a 100% agreement, the expected A332 would be much better.

@BasilFawlty:

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 23):
Downgraded from an A332 to a B738, what a shame! However, it's still a very enjoyable trip report. Thanks for sharing!

Thank you and indeed, that was a real shame to see that 738 at the gate.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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