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DL BizElite: 767-300ER JFK-FRA / A330-200 FRA-DTW  
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 27574 times:

Hey all,

Well, just got home from my spring break 2010 trip to FRA. For spring break 2009 I went with a work buddy out to FRA to go to Sinsheim and see the Tu-144. This year we were going to go to AMS to visit an a.net buddy but those loads rapidly filled up so we ended up going to FRA again, this time out to Speyer to see the Soviet space shuttle 'Buran'. Between spring break loads and the BA strike, we had a hell of a time nonrev'ing around. I was one of the very last passengers to get on the DL flight out of FRA... had an extreme amount of luck that day!! Final itinerary for the trip:

DEN-HDN: UA CR2
HDN-ORD: UA 319
ORD-BOS: UA 752
BOS-LGA: DL M80
JFK-FRA: DL 763
FRA-DTW: DL 332
DTW-DEN: DL 319




19 March 2010
DL106, JFK-FRA
Block Time: 08 hours, 15 minutes
767-332/ER, N190DN, ship# 190
Seat: 5A, BusinessElite

Load Factor-
Business: 50%
Cocah: 95%

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Since the loads on Friday were completely full to just about everywhere out of DEN, my buddy and I ended up going to ORD on Thursday night and then just crashed in an airport hotel for the night. The next day I needed to get out to NYC but the ORD-JFK flights on both DL and AA were totally full so I ended up going to LGA via BOS. Long way around but it was fun, especially for my first flight on the Delta Shuttle.


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UA A319 arriving in HDN for our flight out to ORD


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Deplaning via the aft airstairs in LGA on the Delta Shuttle


After getting to LGA, I took the NYAS bus service from LGA to JFK. Very nice, the ride only took about 30 minutes and is well worth not having the headache of trying to fly directly into JFK with their runway construction and major flow control delays.

I had quite the long layover in JFK before my 810p flight to FRA so I just wandered around T3 and T4 to kill the time, watching some of the earlier DL TATL flights depart to SVO, ACC, and ATH.


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N190DN inbound from FRA being towed over to T4 for the outbound flight to FRA


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N190DN to FRA, sitting at the gate at T4


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Different view of the plane. 767 row at T3 in the background. I was hoping I'd have a winglet bird to FRA but no such luck.


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Head on view of my plane to FRA


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Gate monitor for the DL106


Since the flight was almost completely full in Y, the gate agents waiting until mid boarding process to start calling the few nonrevs on the standby list. I was given 5A which I was very happy with.... I love window seats in the aft business cabin so as to have good views of the wing and engines, haha


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Just getting settled in 5A, looking forward towards the galley and doors 1L/R


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Looking aft toward the mid galley and cockpit crew rest seat (curtains above)


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Looking across from 5A


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Pre-departure champagne


Given JFK arrival and ground delays, we sat a few minutes past our scheduled close time to allow a few last-minute pax to board before we closed the doors. Once off the gate, the crew made a PA saying that we'd have a 45 minute taxi time. By that, I thought they meant we'd have a 45 minute ground hold. Not so, our taxi literally took 45 minutes. Yikes... JFK is a nightmare airport sometimes!!


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Looking out the window just prior to pushback


The FA's handed out the menu's during the taxi and came around to take everyone's order in the LONG 45 minutes it took to get to the runway. When they came around to asking me for my order, they said all the entrees were available. Ordinarily I order the chicken but I thought I'd try the vegetarian option - it was a white lasagna that actually sounded rather good.


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Initial place setting for the meal service. The Chilean red wine was quite good.


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From the menu: Seasoned shrimp with avocado and salsa rosa, tomato florentine soup, and salad of romaine hearts with tomato and bleu cheese.


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From the menu: Lasagne tossed with spinach and radicchio in a light gorgonzola sauce, topped with pine nuts


For dessert, both the ice cream sundae and fruit and cheese plate were available but I chose the fruit and cheese plate.


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Dessert of fruit, cheese, and crackers.


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Moving map just prior to me hitting the sack for the next 5 hours or so.


The current DL BusinessElite seats are relatively comfortable though I tend to prefer the angled lie-flat of the old NW World Business Class. Of course, the full-flat of the 764 and 772LR are indeed the best, so it will be nice when the 763's begin to get the full-flat interior conversions.


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First daylight of the flight. Still at cruise enroute to FRA, about 1.5 hours remaining.


Breakfast choices were a swiss cheese and mushroom omelet or oats and honey granola. Still pretty full from the dinner service not too many hours ago, I had the granola. The omelets smelled especially good, though!! But then again, the granola was actually REALLY good.


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From the menu: Oats and honey granola served with milk and yogurt. In personal commentary, the cranberry-walnut bread was quite good!!


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Flying over London - strikes abound below, haha


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Flight stats page - only about 3700 miles to FRA. Considerably shorter than the TransPac's I'm used to!!


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Top of descent, speed brakes out


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About to descend into the low overcast layer. It was pretty cold, drizzly, and foggy that morning.


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Descending below the overcast layer, on final into FRA


Landing was especially hard and bumpy. I've come to a completely-uneducated personal conjecture that the 767 is a very hard airplane to land. Out of my 21 flights on 767-300's and 2 flights on 767-400's, I've never once had a smooth landing on them. Maybe it has something to do with their rather bizarre weight-on-wheels mechanism?? Either that or just an overall difficult airplane to get a smooth landing in.


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Two DL A330-200's already at the gates in FRA. Ship 3357 (N857NW) on the left was inbound from ATL, outbound to DTW. Ship 3359 (N859NW) was inbound from DTW, outbound to ATL.


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Pulling into remote parking at FRA, immediately opposite the A330's at the gates.


I was pretty excited to see that we were using remote parking for our arrival, beings as how I'd be able to get a few exterior pictures of the aircraft before we drove off to customs.


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Deplaning through the forward and aft doors at remote parking


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Looking aft toward the tail and engine #1. N190DN is one of the PW4060-powered birds in the DL 763ER fleet, my personal favorite type.


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My final look at N190DN while driving off to customs


While the trip was cut short due to the BA strike and all flights across the Atlantic rapidly filling up, we were still able to go out to the Technik Museum in Speyer to see the LH 747-200 and the space shuttle Buran. Sinsheim was a cool place to visit but IMO, Speyer has a way better museum in regard to all the cool aerospace things they have there.


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Soviet space shuttle Buran at the museum in Speyer. Very cool to see it in person. I read somewhere that it's the only one on public display outside of Russia and former Soviet-bloc states.


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Cockpit of Buran. Sorry for glare, the plexiglass did no favors for photography.


My original plan was to fly home FRA-ORD on the AA 763 as AA remains my favorite airline for international service, but beings how AA is in Oneworld with BA, almost all of AA's TATL flights have been running extremely full during those BA strike days and days leading up to the strike. As such, FRA-ORD booked totally full nearly overnight. Given how all the DL flights were also extremely full, I took a shot in the dark (or a leap of faith) and decided to try on FRA-DTW, followed by a last ditch option of FRA-JFK, both on DL.






22 March 2010
DL251, FRA-DTW
Block Time: 09 hours, 30 minutes
A330-200, N858NW, ship# 3358
Seat: 6C, BusinessElite

Load Factor-
Business: 100%
Coach: 100%

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I checked in relatively early for the DTW flight and spoke to the agents to see if my listing on FRA-DTW-DEN could be changed to FRA-JFK-DEN if necessary if I didn't get on the DTW flight. They said it was possible, and to just talk to the gate agents if I didn't make it on DTW.

As I was waiting for DTW, the ATL flight next door made a PA saying all standbys were cleared and to come get seat assignments at the podium. The flight eventually left with 2 seats open in business class. At the time, I was cursing myself thinking I should have gone to ATL, despite the ATL-DEN flights being totally full. In an extreme amount of luck though, I was cleared onto the DTW flight and even in J-class. I thought about asking if they had any window seats available but didn't want to push my luck, haha.


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Ship 3358 (N858NW) sitting in remote parking at FRA. I will admit, the A330 is a remarkably good looking airplane in the Delta new colors.


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Walking under the wing toward the forward boarding stairs


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Final view aft before boarding


Once on board, the BusinessElite cabin was almost completely filled in as I was one of the last passengers to board the aircraft. I was in 6C, the last row of the J-class cabin in the small aft mini-cabin on the A330-200's.


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Looking forward toward the cockpit from my seat 6C


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Seats 5AB, the first of the two rows in the aft mini-cabin in J-class.


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Looking across to the other side of the cabin, seats 5HJ and door 2R.


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Pre-departure beer and mineral water. I was major stressed so I took care of that beer in no time to cool down, haha


Unfortunately, since I was in an aisle seat in the center section, I don't have any external pictures of the aircraft, scenery, wing, or engines from the flight. I was pretty bummed about that but at the same time, was very thankful to be on the flight at all, much less in J-class!!


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Main menu of the AVOD selection for the PMNW planes and IFE system


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Audio on demand selection. I took this picture for a good buddy of mine here on a.net who I'll allow to remain nameless so he is not humiliated as I've just humiliated myself in admitting that I enjoy listening to Lady GaGa  


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Starter of warm mixed nuts


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My one vice while flying - Cranapple juice. Also noise-canceling headset


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From the menu: Salmon mousse with smoked salmon and pumpernickel, cream of mushroom soup, and caesar salad with cherry tomatoes and garlic croutons


When the FA's came around to take my meal order, they only had the chicken and pasta entrees left. Since I enjoyed the pasta so much on the flight over, I figured I'd try the pasta again on the flight back.


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From the menu: Ricotta and basil fettuccine tossed with an assortment of sauteed vegetables


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From the menu: All natural vanilla ice cream sundae with your choice of sauces, whipped cream, and chopped nuts

Unfortunately they were out of chopped nuts. Rather, the catering company in FRA didn't load them onto the aircraft. So, I just got the berry topping sans the chopped nuts.


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Globe view of our route of flight prior to me hitting the sack for about 6 hours.


I woke up about 1.5 hours out from DTW, just as the FA's were preparing the pre-arrival meal service. There was a choice between a hot turkey sandwich and a shrimp nicoise salad. I ended up deciding on the latter of the two options.


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Moving map of the final hour of our flight before arrival into DTW


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Flight stats page. Strong headwinds during the last portion of our flight.


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From the menu: Shrimp nicoise salad with tomato, egg, green beans, olives, and potatoes, accompanied by bread sticks and fresh fruit.


We were going to be about 30-40 minutes early into DTW, at least until ATC put us into holding for 30 minutes. DTW was getting a steady rainfall and was into a mild ATC flow control because of it. We ended up arriving right on time though, so no complaints.

Final impressions... DL is progressing nicely with the merger. As the on board soft products are now fully integrated, I look forward to seeing the on board hard products being integrated and improved. Major thumbs up to DL for announcing huge investments in fleet improvements. Lie-flat J-class and AVOD PTV's in Y-class across the entire longhaul fleet.


Keep moving forward, Delta. Make us proud!!





[Edited 2010-03-23 15:57:54]

28 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 4175 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 27277 times:

Great report! DL seems to have excellent catering service, although their 767's could sure do with the seating upgrade!

Also, its nice to see how US carriers really do look after non-rev pax with upgrades.. i'll have to try DL myself next time across the atlantic.



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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2352 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 26984 times:

Always enjoy reading your TR's Matt!, Great pictures, and glad to see you had a good time!


ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineDL752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 174 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 26667 times:

Fabulous!
Delta is really keeping their game up.
I can't wait until my international flight with them.

DL752  


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1937 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 26496 times:
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Great report, Transpac! Looks like you had a good trip with Delta in Business Elite. I flew Delta in Business Elite a few years ago from MUC-JFK and I remember those seats from the 767-300... they were comfy in my recollection!

Looking forward to more great reports!

767747

[Edited 2010-03-23 18:26:01]

User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 26225 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Audio on demand selection. I took this picture for a good buddy of mine here on a.net who I'll allow to remain nameless so he is not humiliated as I've just humiliated myself in admitting that I enjoy listening to Lady GaGa

Well I'm glad they were left nameless, because I hear if you HAD put their name on there, they'd kick your butt.  

Was this your first Delta colored A330? I must say all the food looks very good, and I like the dishes they present it with.



"Things change, friends leave, life doesn't stop for anybody." -- EAT'EM UP EAT'EM UP KSU!!
User currently onlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 914 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 25734 times:

Great TR as always, too bad you did not get more time in FRA, it is one of my favourite cities.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Soviet space shuttle Buran at the museum in Speyer. Very cool to see it in person. I read somewhere that it's the only one on public display outside of Russia and former Soviet-bloc states.

I did not know this was here I will have to hit it up when I am in Germany and too bad the soviets did not fly that shuttle

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
I will admit, the A330 is a remarkably good looking airplane in the Delta new colo

I do agree I did not think it would look good and it really looks good in the DL colours



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6570 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 16 hours ago) and read 25091 times:

Nice report with great pictures! You were lucky to get on; flying during spring break and the BA strike is very risky!

Funny to see the NW logo on the Airshow map. I though they had fixed things like that and everything now was DL branded.

I did a spotting trip to FRA a few weeks ago via IAD on UA 916 and back home via UA 933 which gave me about 8h in FRA for spotting. Flew F on the way back  

The777Man



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User currently offlinecgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 13 hours ago) and read 24591 times:

Nice report. When did DL put the 767 back on the JFK route? I flew FRA-JFK back in May 2008 and they had downgraded it to a 757.


A330 man.
User currently offlineATLflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 6 hours ago) and read 23337 times:

The catering on these flights looks better than it ever has on Delta. Very nice to see.

User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 23207 times:

Very nice report! Hope to visit the museum myself in July when I head over for the grand prix.

User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 22795 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 1):
although their 767's could sure do with the seating upgrade!

Definitely. It is forthcoming though, thank God!! Y-class AVOD PTV's and lie-flat in J-class. Can't wait!!!

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 1):
Also, its nice to see how US carriers really do look after non-rev pax with upgrades..

DL does indeed seem to be the best with it, even giving OAL nonrevs J-class when available.

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 2):
Always enjoy reading your TR's Matt!

Thanks Bobby!!

Quoting DL752 (Reply 3):
I can't wait until my international flight with them.

Where you headed??

Quoting 767747 (Reply 4):
Looking forward to more great reports!

Thanks, chief!

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 5):
Well I'm glad they were left nameless, because I hear if you HAD put their name on there, they'd kick your butt.  

Whatever!! This nameless individual listens to all those gay songs even more than me     

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 5):
Was this your first Delta colored A330? I must say all the food looks very good, and I like the dishes they present it with.

Negative ghost rider.

I flew on A330-300 ship# 3306 (N806NW) on HNL-MSP back in July - it was in DL colors, though under a NW flight number. This flight was my first 'officially Delta' flight on an A330.

Quoting N104UA (Reply 6):
too bad the soviets did not fly that shuttle

The flew it once into space unmanned. That particular vehicle was destroyed in a hangar collapse. The vehicle in the Speyer museum made several atmospheric flights, though never made it into space.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
I did a spotting trip to FRA a few weeks ago via IAD on UA 916 and back home via UA 933 which gave me about 8h in FRA for spotting. Flew F on the way back

And I thought I was the only one crazy enough to do international quick turns. Bravo good man, bravo!!

Quoting cgnnrw (Reply 8):
Nice report. When did DL put the 767 back on the JFK route?

You know, I'm not sure. Last year I went to FRA in March on AA ORD-FRA and we parked next to the DL 752 operating from JFK. So I'm really not sure when it switched back to 763.

Quoting ATLflyer (Reply 9):
The catering on these flights looks better than it ever has on Delta. Very nice to see.

AA remains my favorite for international meal service, though DL does put on a good show!!

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 10):
Hope to visit the museum myself in July

It's totally worth it. Give your self about 5 hours there. My buddy and I only budgeted 3 hours into the day and we ended up missing a lot.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6570 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 22174 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 11):
DL does indeed seem to be the best with it, even giving OAL nonrevs J-class when available

You may want to tell that to DL's LAX station......When I went to SYD in Sep with them, they put me in Y although they had seats left in J......

Thererfore, DL employees going trhu LAX on UA will be expected to sit in Y as well.......

The777Man



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 21807 times:
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Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
I checked in relatively early for the DTW flight and spoke to the agents to see if my listing on FRA-DTW-DEN could be changed to FRA-JFK-DEN if necessary if I didn't get on the DTW flight. They said it was possible, and to just talk to the gate agents if I didn't make it on DTW.

Sounds like my trip to FRA in December. The JFK inbound was delayed about 12 hours, so lots of people got rebooked on the DTW flight. We made it on, but barely...ended up in coach   

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
My one vice while flying - Cranapple juice. Also noise-canceling headset

With the amount of flying you do, I'm surprised you haven't invested in a Bose headset. I bought the Bose QC15 last fall, and it's worth every penny. With their financing option, they charge $25/mo to a credit card I already had  



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6808 posts, RR: 77
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 21512 times:

Hi Transpac,

really interesting report with nice pictures. The food looks delicious...

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Pre-departure champagne

...but they shouldn't use a Coca Cola napkin when serving champagne.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
I will admit, the A330 is a remarkably good looking airplane in the Delta new colors.

It looks nice, but not as good as in NWA colors which I really miss.


PH



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User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1022 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 21273 times:

Hey Transpac787, excellent report and great food pictures! Everything looks delicious.
Just one question, do they give refills on the soup or the granola? That's my favorite kind of muesli but I think I wouldn't be full as it looks like a rather small portion.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):

DEN-HDN: UA CR2
HDN-ORD: UA 319
ORD-BOS: UA 752
BOS-LGA: DL M80
JFK-FRA: DL 763
FRA-DTW: DL 332
DTW-DEN: DL 319

Great itinerary!



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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 20912 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
DEN-HDN: UA CR2
HDN-ORD: UA 319
ORD-BOS: UA 752
BOS-LGA: DL M80
JFK-FRA: DL 763
FRA-DTW: DL 332
DTW-DEN: DL 319

No offense but... is this really necessary? Or are you just trying to add more lines to your flight map? I feel like there could've been an easier way... With that said, I'm inspired by your adventurous routing.



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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7545 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 20657 times:

Quoting ATLflyer (Reply 9):
The catering on these flights looks better than it ever has on Delta. Very nice to see.

This is PM/NW style meals now on Delta.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 16):
No offense but... is this really necessary? Or are you just trying to add more lines to your flight map? I feel like there could've been an easier way... With that said, I'm inspired by your adventurous routing.

He flies non-rev so it doesn't surprise me with the way loads have been recently.



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 20166 times:
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Hi Transpac,

Great report & pictures and loved the whole itinerary, as I say, fly fly less when you can fly more  

Brave to travel during the BA strike, nice to luck out on both t/atlantics in J.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Deplaning via the aft airstairs in LGA on the Delta Shuttle

- Nice way to exit!

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Pre-departure champagne

- Champagne? - Last time I did DL in J, DL1, it was some cheap sparkling wine described as champange, dredfull stuff!

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
the full-flat of the 764 and 772LR are indeed the best, so it will be nice when the 763's begin to get the full-flat interior conversions.

- In deed, whilst the seats on the DL 763 look comfortable, the seat style sure is dated.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 20030 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 17):
This is PM/NW style meals now on Delta.

Ummm..... no? Delta introduced this meal long before NW came along.

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 17):
He flies non-rev so it doesn't surprise me with the way loads have been recently.

I know, but even as a non-rev there has to be a more direct routing. Good suggestion: first flight out, even if it's overbooked. Guaranteed to be some no-shows.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 20018 times:

DL catering looks great up front as usual. I was really impressed with a DL LAX-JFK businessfirst flight up front and it looks on par with their Euro services as well. They have a great thing going.

Having said that, I think AA wins for best catering up front. Entertainment-wise, not so much.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 16):
No offense but... is this really necessary? Or are you just trying to add more lines to your flight map?

It appears that the user is a DL/UA guy. As of right now I'm pretty much the same  



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 19879 times:
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Quoting Evan767 (Reply 19):
Guaranteed to be some no-shows.

The only guarantee when nonreving is that there are no guarantees...



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 19217 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
You may want to tell that to DL's LAX station......When I went to SYD in Sep with them, they put me in Y although they had seats left in J......

Thererfore, DL employees going trhu LAX on UA will be expected to sit in Y as well.......

Well, what goes around comes around. DL in ATL, at least, seems to be good about it!! I've never flown UA or DL out of LAX internationally - I've only arrived in there from overseas. So I really don't know how their agents are on either side of the coin

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 13):
With the amount of flying you do, I'm surprised you haven't invested in a Bose headset.

I know, right. Though, as I've said before, I'd probably sleep through the apocalypse. So, while those Bose headsets are definitely really nice, in my case they'd be a bit superfluous.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
...but they shouldn't use a Coca Cola napkin when serving champagne.

Haha wow, I didn't even notice that. Goes to show where my standards are though, I'm not picky in the least. 

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 15):
do they give refills on the soup or the granola?

Granola, no.

Soup... sometimes, if they have leftovers after everyone has been served. I know this will piss off collective a.net but seconds on the soup is usually only given to nonrevs, whom the FA's usually have an immediate rapport with. Further, there are usually only a few nonrevs vs 20 to 30-some revenue pax and they don't carry a lot of extra soup, so makes sense in a way.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 16):
No offense but... is this really necessary? Or are you just trying to add more lines to your flight map? I feel like there could've been an easier way...

I can promise you, if you see a CR2 in an itinerary of mine, it was ABSOLUTELY necessary as I hate that damn plane  

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 17):
He flies non-rev so it doesn't surprise me with the way loads have been recently.

Yea it was pretty full. Going back to the above comment, I'm sure I could have found an easier way but all my flights were insanely open, got a row to myself on all of them. So, instead of risking it on DEN-ORD, I just threw a 1-stop in there.... same with getting from ORD to LGA.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
- Nice way to exit!

Yea. I think I pissed off the rampers as I was taking pictures and they had to wait for me to leave before they could bring up the bags and such for the outbound flight, haha

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 19):
I know, but even as a non-rev there has to be a more direct routing.

I'm sure I could have found an easier way but all my flights were insanely open, got a row to myself on all of them. So, instead of risking it on an extremely full DEN-ORD, I just threw a 1-stop in there and had a way more enjoyable and stress-free time.... same with getting from ORD to LGA.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 20):
Having said that, I think AA wins for best catering up front.

Definitely!!

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 21):
The only guarantee when nonreving is that there are no guarantees...

Yea. That's why I *hate* it when I'm at work and nonrevs ask me "so what are my chances??" Regardless of it being a fishing attempt to get early-clear boarding passes, I always hate to give an answer because if I say "not good", they'll end up getting on and think I'm an asshole giving them scare tactics. Then if I say "you should be fine" and they don't get on, then, again, they think I'm a major jerkass haha.

So yea, there are never any guarantees in nonreving.


User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6220 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 19151 times:

Thank you for sharing, ahhh the life of a non-rev.
You know he first time I crossed the Atlantic was on DL (as a revenue pax), DAB to FRA via ATL back in 05 on the 777. Even in coach I was impressed with their service, DL is trully a classy airline and this was when they were in Chapter 11. Two thumbs up to the folks in ATL.
Anyhow you are one lucky non-rev. I flew non-rev between AMS and SEA on DL/NWA this past NOV, they cleared us in coach. Nonetheless I was more than greatful to make the flight as we were coming in 4 hours late from DXB on KLM and we had to run through Schipol to make the SEA flight. Anytime I fly non-rev on OAL, especially if going abroad I am just happy to get a seat (be it a midle seat, the last row in coach -y ou name it). I'm palnning on heading to Japan this upcoming OCT. and I'll be glad to make any flight.
Keep on non-reving and sharing your adventures.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offlineAndyinPIT From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 18653 times:

You know, I've noticed too that the 767, no matter what series, always has a hard landing. I've been on a handful of UA's and I watch them every day at work and it always seems like the last 50 feet is just a total freefall. Glad it's not just me  

25 Transpac787 : Was Business totally full?? The SEA-AMS flight (and return) typically runs with very high premium load factors. Well... at least there are no less th
26 KaiGywer : The sound is great in them though. Not just noise cancelling, but they sound good too. MUCH better than the stuff you get for free on the plane. Go t
27 The777Man : Exactly; what goes around comes around! My one previous flight on DL was ATL-MCO and they upgraded me to Business Elite which was very nice. My restr
28 PRAirbus : One of DL's biggest assets is its nice fleet...their competitors 767s are put to shAAme! :O
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