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Joyrides Down Under Part 5: Capital Stopover  
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15420 times:

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Joyrides Down Under Part 5: A Capital Stopover


Joyride
Noun: A ride in a vehicle taken solely for pleasure
Verb: A ride in a vehicle with no particular goal and just for the pleasure of it


Ok, there seems to have been a small goal to my joyrides: that of trying out new aircraft and (hopefully) new airlines.


2 International flights.
8 Australian domestic flights, 3 airlines, 4 states, 5 types.
6 New Zealand domestic flights, 3 airlines, 2 islands, 3 types.



Welcome to my next series of Trip Reports. These flights over 3 weeks, summarised above, includes flights on Air New Zealand, Emirates, Qantas, Virgin Blue, Pacific Blue and Jetstar; takes me through New South Wales, Victoria, ACT, Queensland and New Zealand while travelling on 6 different types of planes. I hope you enjoy my journey around eastern Australia and also New Zealand. At the end of the final TR, I’ll write up a comparison between the domestic carriers in both New Zealand and Australia according to my personal experience with them.

If you missed the first TRs of the series, here are the links:
Joyrides Down Under Part 1: Air NZ AKL-CHC-AKL (by NZ107 Dec 23 2009 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 2: EK A380 Revisited (by NZ107 Jan 8 2010 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 3: East Coast Adventure (by NZ107 Feb 11 2010 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 4: Int'l On Domestic (by NZ107 Feb 23 2010 in Trip Reports)

This is the third and final instalment of the Australian domestic flights. This TR will cover the flights taken on the next day – SYD-MEL on a QF A332, MEL-CBR on a DJ 73G and CBR-SYD on a DJ E70.

Everything has been laid out in front of this TR so I’ll head straight to the beginning, no introduction is really needed apart from the fact that this would be my first flight in both a 737-700 and an ERJ 170.


It's all about the destination AND the journey.
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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15430 times:

I specifically booked the first flight as it was a Qantas service on an A332 but the only problem was it departed SYD at 7am meaning I’d have to be at the airport by 6:30 which is extremely early for me, especially as I’d have to take the train. I made it to the airport with enough time to spare and headed straight for the QF self check in kiosks. I inserted my QF frequent flyer card – it couldn’t find a booking. I inserted my credit card I used to book the flight – it couldn’t find a booking. I thought something must have been wrong. It might have been nice if they had overbooked and something special was heading my way but I entered the booking reference into the computer and it immediately sprung to life. How weird.. To my absolute dismay, all the window seats had been taken so I was left with no choice but to sit where I had been placed – a rear aisle seat among the sets of 3. There must have been plenty of business travellers with a higher FF status than me because that window seat preference of mine flew out the door. Either that or the system totally forgot about me and never bothered to reserve me a window seat like the previous QF flight I was on. Oh well, I had to make do.

Qantas Check In Area
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Boarding Pass
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FIDS
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The Way To The Gate
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My Plane
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Bear with me as there are very few photos as there’s not that much to take a photo of when you’re given no view. I was too tired to take pictures airside so I headed straight for the gate to wait for the boarding call. There were complimentary newspapers stacked up outside each gate. The boarding call finally came around.

Flight Information

26 Nov 2009
Routing: Sydney – Melbourne Tullamarine (SYD-MEL)
Airline: Qantas
Flight: QF407
Scheduled Time of Departure: 0700hrs
Actual Departure: 0703hrs (pushback), 0723hrs (rotate)
Scheduled Time of Arrival: 0830hrs
Touchdown: 0845hrs
Flight time: 1hr 42 min
Aircraft: Airbus A330-203
Registration: VH-EBH
Seat: 56F


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Qantas has a fleet of 7 A330-200 aircraft and 4 different configurations. VH-EBH was first registered with QF on 24 Dec 2007. It is an internationally configured A332 with a layout of 36J/199Y, like EBG and EBI. Business Class has sky beds installed. These usually fly to CGK, HKG, PVG, on domestic routes and have previously flown (but will recommence the following route from Sydney instead) MEL-AKL-LAX. The Economy cabin is split up into 2 sections.

Boarding commenced from the rear of the aircraft but a line had already formed so I just ended up joining the back of it. I eventually made it onto the jetway and into the plane via 2L where I promptly walked to the far aisle and was greeted by the FA at the door by “Wow, you must know where you’re going!” I was properly welcomed onboard by the purser standing on the right hand aisle with the usual “Welcome aboard Mr. Young, your seat is on the aisle down the end”. As I saw on the self check in monitor, the flight was packed. Passengers were constantly keeping the aisle filled right down to where I was sitting. The interior looked really nice and quite inviting to someone who would possibly be flying long haul on this bird.


Qantas Business Skybeds
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Making My Way Down The Plane
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The seats on the QF A332 are quite comfortable just like the JQ ones I tried a day earlier. Qantas have fabric seats and have the same amount of recline as what was on the Jetstar A332. Because this was an internationally configured A332, there were PTVs in every seat. The remote was in the armrest and definitely in a bad position, prone to bumps like many have pointed out over the years. It also narrows down the armrest and would be quite uncomfortable to lean on for a long haul flight unless you manage to get by with your elbow on the small portion of the armrest which is ‘normal’.

My Seat
IFE Handset
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Tray



Pushback commenced 3 minutes late, seemingly justifiable by the heavy loading on today’s flight. The safety demo was played over the PTVs and we were on our way to runway 34R for the departure to Melbourne.

The seatbelt sign was switched off within 6 minutes of takeoff, after the steep right bank over the Tasman Sea had levelled off. I think I was guilty of playing around with the IFE too early and it wouldn’t let me do anything so I just left it as I couldn’t be bothered annoying a flight attendant just to get the air show programme operating on a short flight. It didn’t take long before breakfast was being served. It took a while for them to reach the back of the plane but it eventually came. On the tray was a box of cereal, milk, a scone, orange juice and a small orange/mandarin. It was probably more than what I was expecting and did its job in filling me up. The reports on a lot of the seat websites like seatguru.com are correct when stating that the last row of 4 seats is bad due to FAs knocking it regularly. It must have happened at least three times and it didn’t look or sound very good. It’s one seat where you would be better off keeping your elbows tucked in at all times!

Cabin Shot
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Breakfast
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After breakfast had been completed, trays were quickly collected. I had a quick wander around the plane but there wasn’t much to see that was different to the JQ A332, which had previously served QF domestic and had an identical lavatory. The only difference I could spot was the removal of the projectors onto the bulkhead because the aircraft had PTVs.

Lavatory


Sure enough, it was time for our descent into Melbourne. The captain came across announcing that we’d be arriving into the gate (11) a little later because we were given a tight gate which required an engine shutdown and a tow into the gate. We landed, quickly vacated the runway and made our way to the gate.

Yananyi Dreaming In Melbourne
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Upon disembarkation, I headed to the cockpit to see if I was able to get a bit more information about the flight and possibly a picture of the cockpit. My request was politely declined by the purser using “the pilots have a very busy schedule and this aircraft is due for a quick turnaround” as the excuse. So I walked off the plane and into Melbourne Airport for the 3rd time in 3 consecutive days.



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15413 times:

The first thing lined up for my time in Melbourne was to check in for my flights back to Sydney via Canberra, both on Virgin Blue. I was able to check in using the kiosk for the first leg to CBR but I had to wait in line at the customer service desk to check in for my CBR-SYD flight. I took my boarding pass and supermarket docket and headed airside.

Boarding Pass(es)
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DJ Check In Area
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FIDS
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I used my 3 hour long layover to get some rest as I was exhausted from all the flying over the few days. I did a little bit of spotting too. A couple of Krispy Kreme Doughnuts gave me a much needed sugar boost. The start of the first cricket test between Australia and the West Indies had just begun while I was down the pier waiting for my flight. A boarding call was made shortly after for my flight to CBR.

CZ A332
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REX SF340s
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My Plane To CBR
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Flight Information

26 Nov 2009
Routing: Melbourne Tullamarine - Canberra (MEL-CBR)
Airline: Virgin Blue
Flight: DJ269
Scheduled Time of Departure: 1200hrs
Actual Departure: 1156hrs (pushback), 1204hrs (rotate)
Scheduled Time of Arrival: 1305hrs
Touchdown: 1252hrs
Flight time: 56 min
Aircraft: Boeing 737-7Q8
Registration: VH-VBA
Seat: 9F


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VH-VBA was delivered new to DJ from Boeing on the 4th of April 2001 and was the first 737-700 registered in Australia and also the first 737NG for Virgin Blue. There are 21 73Gs operating for DJ in a configuration 12Y+/126Y totalling 144 seats. Information about the seats such as legroom is virtually identical to the 73H. They have Live2Air PTVs as well.

There weren’t that many around so I assumed it was going to be a rather light load to Canberra. I was correct when the doors closed early and it seemed like nearly everyone had a set of 3 seats to themselves. I flicked through the channels on Live2Air to try and find the cricket game I was watching in the terminal earlier but instead I found the New Zealand vs Pakistan game playing! It was great being able to watch that particular match from the plane and it was a good thing Lunch began before we departed so I didn’t bother wasting my money to keep watching nothing.

Down The Jetway
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Premium Economy
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Live2Air – NZ Cricket!? DJ Can’t Get Any Better!
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We were soon on our way to Canberra via Runway 34. The crew were very enthusiastic once again. There wasn’t much to report on this flight apart from the fact that we levelled off at 31,000ft. The lavatory was basically the same as what was in the 73Hs. For some reason, the recline function on my seat broke prior to landing and there was no way that it could be kept in an upright position if you leant back on it. I should have moved seats but I wanted to take pictures so the whole landing felt like holding a sit up for a while as we slowed down on the runway.

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Past The International Terminal
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Climb Out Of MEL
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IFE
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CFM 56
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Lavatory
Cabin Shot – Quite A Bit Shorter Than The 73H!
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Descending Into CBR
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Good Weather!
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Queanbeyan, NSW, 3mi Final
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We touched down in front of schedule on Runway 35, the main runway in Canberra. This meant a long taxi back to the terminal parallel to the runway we just landed on.

Touchdown, Looking Down The Cross Runway
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Looking Back Down The Main Runway
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CBR Terminal
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Pulling Into Gate 7
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Various Planes Which Use CBR
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There wasn’t any airbridge at this gate but there were no problems as we walked off the plane after thanking the crew and headed down the stairs into the magnificent 31 degree dry heat of Canberra.

Inside The Terminal
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Baggage Carousel
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Because I had already checked in for my flight back to Sydney, there was no need to rush or anything so I took my time to look around at what Canberra Airport offered.. Not much at all but it is undergoing major renovations with the whole entrance being a construction site.

QF Check In
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TT/DJ Check In
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FIDS
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Outside
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There was basically nothing landside so I decided to pass through security and wait upstairs. There was a PA advising everyone that there was a school excursion happening and told people not to be worried if a man in a green suit was walking around the terminal.. More about this later. Anyway I passed through security to be taken over for secondary bomb testing – they get a swab over your clothes and baggage and run the sample through an itemiser to check for bomb residue (I wonder if they test for drugs at the same time as it’s the same machine?). The staff must have been bored because I had been through 7 other flights around Australia and hadn’t seen one person being tested! Of course I passed through without any problems at all and headed upstairs.

Departure Lounge
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My Plane From MEL Boarding For MEL, QF 738 Pushback Behind
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A whole lot of kids came past and headed over to the cordoned off part of the departure hall. It was a very fun event to watch as first of all, the kids got to see and touch an AFP (Australian Federal Police) German Shepherd. Then after that, the guy in a green bomb suit appeared. Man is that thing laden with Kevlar! They then invited the kids to punch/kick the guy in the green suit as hard as they could.. This was one hilarious event as kids were injuring themselves in their attempts to bring this guy down! Canberra Airport can’t get any more interesting than this! I’m glad I chose that day to travel to Canberra!

Guy In Green Suit
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Boy Throwing His Arm At Guy In Green Suit


In the meantime, the E170 from Sydney arrived, ready to take me on my first E-Jet experience.

My First E170 Arriving From SYD
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Small Tractor!
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Shortly after, a boarding announcement was made.


Flight Information

26 Nov 2009
Routing: Canberra – Sydney Kingsford (CBR-SYD)
Airline: Virgin Blue
Flight: DJ551
Scheduled Time of Departure: 1400hrs
Actual Departure: 1358hrs (pushback), 1405hrs (rotate)
Scheduled Time of Arrival: 1450hrs
Touchdown: 1434hrs
Flight time: 36 min
Aircraft: Embraer ERJ 170-100LR
Registration: VH-ZHE
Seat: 7A


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The Virgin Blue Embraer fleet isn’t very old at all. DJ has 6 E170s, predominantly for flights to and from Canberra and mainly for the SYD-CBR run. They are configured in a 12Y+/66Y arrangement, totalling 78 seats. The Economy seats have between 30 and 31 inches of legroom. ZHE was delivered new from Embraer and was registered on 4 September 2008.

Boarding was made through a jetway. The first impression I received as I walked in was how spacious it was for a 4-abreast plane and the fact that I could stand up properly was another positive. The windows were very square and felt much bigger than the window in the A380. There was plenty of legroom for someone like me. There was definitely enough under seat storage too. It felt very spacious even though I had a neighbour. The one con I had about the flight was the fact that the air vent was extremely powerful, probably the most powerful I’ve experienced. It’d probably dry hair quicker than an A340 engine!  http://lh3.ggpht.com/_cYYIjMZbEQA/S7md0uo3bII/AAAAAAAAERQ/rPqc2uCD2Vc/s800/IMG_6955edit.jpg

Legroom
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Pushback occurred in front of schedule again even though this flight was pretty full. A short taxi to the end of Runway 35 and we were bound for Sydney. The engines seemed fairly powerful for its size. I had a good view over Canberra as we climbed and could name a few landmarks like Canberra Radio Tower, the fountain and Parliament House.

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Canberra
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Above The Clouds
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The seat belt sign stayed on after takeoff as the pilots said that they expected turbulence. It was a complete non-event and to my anguish, it prevented me from taking a nice cabin shot. It sounds silly and hypocritical that the flight attendants are allowed to serve passengers their buy on board offerings when they expect turbulence as a loose cart is undoubtedly going to cause more harm in times of turbulence than a person is going to. I was ordered back to my seat when I tried to go to the toilet and they continued to serve passengers. But nonetheless, the flight was quickly over and done with. It was bumpier than other flights but the turbulence proved no real danger to anyone who may have wanted to stand up. It could be the fact that the E170 doesn’t handle the turbulence as well as a 737 might but I’m not in a position to test this theory just yet.

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It was quite an interesting flight path taking us for a direct line towards Sydney before making a turn towards the southeast and continuing over the ocean to line up with Runway 34L, the longer runway in Sydney. It’s funny that all the propeller planes and the E-Jets use the main runway due to the patterns and position of those airports relative to Sydney Airport. The E70 wouldn’t come close to using up the whole runway when landing and this was no exception. We made our way back to the terminal and that was the end of my domestic travels around Australia!


Warragamba Dam – Sydney’s Largest Water Supply
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Town of Picton, 50km Southwest of Sydney
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Woronora Dam – Quite Low, Under 50% Capacity
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Turning Onto Final Over The Water
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Short Final
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CI A332 And Reverse Thrusters
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KE 744F
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QF/JQ Pier
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Approaching The Gate
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Docked


Although it was the shortest flight, it was pretty fun to try out the E70. The crew were definitely the most tempered out of all the DJ flights I flew on during my travels. Luckily they’re only on the short flights and I didn’t have to put up with them for too long. The thing that probably annoyed me the most was when I asked to take a picture of the cockpit. Before I had finished asking the question, one of the FAs butted in and immediately said “No, I’m sorry, the pilots are very busy right now and we need to head back very soon”. Oh well, I’ve tried the E70 and don’t particularly need to fly on it again for a little while!

So that concludes my domestic travelling around Australia - I hope you enjoyed my adventure! Next up will be the return flight on the EK A380 followed by one or two TRs (depending on if I condense them into one) on another couple of New Zealand domestic trips to finish off this series.

Comments are greatly appreciated!

Regards,
Nicholas


The link to this TR’s album can be found here: http://picasaweb.google.com/bogey.nz...DMELCBRSYDPart5OfJoyridesDownUnder
Search a little deeper and you’ll find other pictures of other TRs.

Previous Trip Reports:
Grabbing A Seat With Air NZ Part 1/2: AKL-ZQN-AKL (by NZ107 Dec 1 2008 in Trip Reports)
Grabbing A Seat With Air NZ Part 2/2: AKL-NPE-AKL (by NZ107 Dec 22 2008 in Trip Reports)
Air New Zealand: NZ105 AKL-SYD Economy (by NZ107 Feb 6 2009 in Trip Reports)
A Whale Of A Time: Emirates A380 Inaugural SYD-AKL (by NZ107 Feb 15 2009 in Trip Reports)
NZ Domestic Competition: Part 1 Air NZ AKL-WLG-AKL (by NZ107 Jun 24 2009 in Trip Reports)
NZ Domestic Competition: Part 2 JQ/DJ AKL (by NZ107 Jul 23 2009 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 1: Air NZ AKL-CHC-AKL (by NZ107 Dec 23 2009 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 2: EK A380 Revisited (by NZ107 Jan 8 2010 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 3: East Coast Adventure (by NZ107 Feb 11 2010 in Trip Reports)
Joyrides Down Under Part 4: Int'l On Domestic (by NZ107 Feb 23 2010 in Trip Reports)



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1142 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15134 times:

Yo Nicholas...

Great report yet again... The service looked quite good on QF - a nice offering for your brekkie. Were the fares competitive on this route?

The Virgin offerings also looked great - young and enthusiastic and what a cool plane the EMBR is ...

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Town of Picton, 50km Southwest of Sydney

You've got one of those in NZ don't you!?

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Next up will be the return flight on the EK A380

Good job - I love hearing about these Emirates services!

Regards

Luke



Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlineairpearl From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 960 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15012 times:

Hey Nicholas, nice to see the continuation of your "Joyride" series. Great instalment and very nice pictures again. Thanks!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
On the tray was a box of cereal, milk, a scone, orange juice and a small orange/mandarin. It was probably more than what I was expecting and did its job in filling me up

Looks like a very decent offering for a 1 hour-plus flight. The catering seems healthier than most: I like the way QF distributes fresh fruit in Y class, even for short domestic hops.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
I took my boarding pass and supermarket docket and headed airside.

I really dislike those supermarket check-out receipts! It may sound like a very silly thing, but it bugs me (and screws up my BP collection!)

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Live2Air – NZ Cricket!? DJ Can’t Get Any Better!

Wow, pretty cool.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Anyway I passed through security to be taken over for secondary bomb testing – they get a swab over your clothes and baggage and run the sample through an itemiser to check for bomb residue... I had been through 7 other flights around Australia and hadn’t seen one person being tested!

That happens to me quite often whenever I pass through Australia. I wonder if that says something about me...  
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
The first impression I received as I walked in was how spacious it was for a 4-abreast plane and the fact that I could stand up properly was another positive. The windows were very square and felt much bigger than the window in the A380. There was plenty of legroom for someone like me. There was definitely enough under seat storage too. It felt very spacious even though I had a neighbour

Glad you liked the ERJ... it's one of my favorites. The huge windows are really fantastic eh?

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
It’d probably dry hair quicker than an A340 engine!

Now, now, that's not very nice... some respect please, Nicholas!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
The engines seemed fairly powerful for its size.

They sure are... you should try an ERJ145, shoots up like a rocket.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Before I had finished asking the question, one of the FAs butted in and immediately said “No, I’m sorry, the pilots are very busy right now

Doesn't seem like it's your day for friendly crews. At least you get an A380 to look forward to on the return!

Thanks again for the report

Cheers,
airpearl


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 14796 times:

Hi Nicholas, that's another supurb tripreport!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
the only problem was it departed SYD at 7am meaning I’d have to be at the airport by 6:30 which is extremely early for me

That's pretty short buffer you calculate in then. So just 30mins at SYD will do the trick, even with security?

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
There must have been plenty of business travellers with a higher FF status than me because that window seat preference of mine flew out the door.

Happens to me usually all the time. Preferences seems never to be granted, and manual changes during the check-in process is what I do usually...

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Breakfast

Nice! You won't get that on such short flights in Europe usually.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
CZ A332

That's a fancy colourscheme. CZ should bring it in to AMS instead of their B772's. Would be great to spot it overhere.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
I flicked through the channels on Live2Air to try and find the cricket game I was watching in the terminal earlier but instead I found the New Zealand vs Pakistan game playing! It was great being able to watch that particular match from the plane

Nice feature. Quite expensive for airlines to offer it on board. Did you have to slide your card for this to be able to watch the LiveTV?

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
CI A332 And Reverse Thrusters

A333  

So, that's a fun ride on the E70. Definitely my favourite regional jet, with it's bigger brothers E90/E95. I wonder how the C-series will perform once delivered.

Regards,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14426 times:

Hey Nicholas,

Thanks for a great concluding TR on your Aussie domestic run! .. Excellent pictures as always, and i think i need me one of those wide angles!

You seemed not to have really enjoyed your E70 experience. I have always been somewhat interested in flying an Embraer and whenever i do get the chance, i think it will most likely be with Royal Jordanian.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
a rear aisle seat among the sets of 3.

I personally love sitting in the very last row. I can see all the action, and i also do not mind an aisle seat especially when i want to snap pics of the service.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Because this was an internationally configured A332, there were PTVs in every seat.

Very small!

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
IFE Handset

Intersting, i've never seen this 'config' before! .. I can see how it can make one uncomfortable.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Breakfast

Even for a longer flight, this is a great offering!

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
So I walked off the plane and into Melbourne Airport for the 3rd time in 3 consecutive days.

That's the spirit  
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
supermarket docket

LOL

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
CZ A332

Very nice livery. Never seen it before, and glad to see CZ thinking outside the box for once.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
A whole lot of kids came past and headed over to the cordoned off part of the departure hall. It was a very fun event to watch as first of all, the kids got to see and touch an AFP (Australian Federal Police) German Shepherd. Then after that, the guy in a green bomb suit appeared. Man is that thing laden with Kevlar! They then invited the kids to punch/kick the guy in the green suit as hard as they could.. This was one hilarious event as kids were injuring themselves in their attempts to bring this guy down! Canberra Airport can’t get any more interesting than this! I’m glad I chose that day to travel to Canberra!

Haha .. if i was on that excursion, id forget about that bomb dude and find the nearest window to watch the outdoor action!


Thanks for sharing! Great TR once again!

Cheers,
Roni



A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2500 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14283 times:

Hi Nicholas,

You have really saved the best for last. Nicely written and well detailed. And the pictures...crisp and just beautiful. It makes me want to go down under again as soon as possible.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
but the only problem was it departed SYD at 7am meaning I’d have to be at the airport by 6:30 which is extremely early for me,
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 5):
That's pretty short buffer you calculate in then. So just 30mins at SYD will do the trick, even with security?

It seems like it had worked out for you. Was the terminal not too crowded that morning?

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
Although it was the shortest flight, it was pretty fun to try out the E70.

I envy you on this one. This bird is still on my wish-list.

Quoting airpearl (Reply 4):
Looks like a very decent offering for a 1 hour-plus flight. The catering seems healthier than most: I like the way QF distributes fresh fruit in Y class, even for short domestic hops.
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 5):
Nice! You won't get that on such short flights in Europe usually.

Tell me about it! Though it has been a while since i flew a 1 hour-plus intra European flight.

Thank you for sharing. I really enjoyed it.

Cheers,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14149 times:

Hey, Nicholas,

good stuff, a nice read and how I love these sunny pictures showing the warm climate of southern Australia.

Congrats to the E70, a nice and modern machine, spacious and comfortable, also my opinion.

Looking for you´re next story now.

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 14010 times:

Hi guys, thanks for your comments!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 3):
Great report yet again... The service looked quite good on QF - a nice offering for your brekkie. Were the fares competitive on this route?

Thanks for your comments Luke! Service on Qantas is generally good being the sole full service airline operating in Australia. Fares are very competitive on this route - sorry I can't check right now as the QF site is down for some reason. But if you do a random search for say mid May, the prices are very similar. I'd choose QF all the time provided the fares are reasonable as the service is top notch.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 3):
You've got one of those in NZ don't you!?

Yep, it's a port town. I'm sure there are tonnes of towns around NZ and Australia which have its origins from the UK!

Quoting airpearl (Reply 4):
Great instalment and very nice pictures again. Thanks!

Hi Airpearl,

Thanks for your comments! It was my pleasure writing it for you all.

Quoting airpearl (Reply 4):
Looks like a very decent offering for a 1 hour-plus flight. The catering seems healthier than most: I like the way QF distributes fresh fruit in Y class, even for short domestic hops.

That's what I love about Qantas. The meal was very healthy.

Quoting airpearl (Reply 4):
That happens to me quite often whenever I pass through Australia. I wonder if that says something about me...

That sounds quite prejudicial! I'm guessing you never have any problems with it though.

Quoting airpearl (Reply 4):
Glad you liked the ERJ... it's one of my favorites. The huge windows are really fantastic eh?

Those windows are a nice change to the A380, that's for sure!

Quoting airpearl (Reply 4):
Now, now, that's not very nice... some respect please, Nicholas!

Haha, I'll find out when I do my double whammy A342/A345 trip at the end of the week! But it was so powerful!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 5):
that's another supurb tripreport!

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your comments!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 5):
That's pretty short buffer you calculate in then. So just 30mins at SYD will do the trick, even with security?

Remember, this is Australia (and NZ for that matter). All that is required is a simple x-ray and walk through the metal detector with the very occasional bomb residue test. So 30 mins is plenty of time to make it through check in (provided it's not Tiger as you must be checked in 45 mins prior to departure). Around peak times there are queues but even then it doesn't take that long to clear and you're away laughing to the gate.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 5):
Did you have to slide your card for this to be able to watch the LiveTV?

DJ give previews of the channels up to just after departure then you have the option to pay for Live2Air, watch airshow for free or turn the monitor brightness right down as if you were switching it off.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 5):
CI A332 And Reverse Thrusters

A333

Ahh yes, a slip of the finger.. Thanks for the correction  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 5):
Definitely my favourite regional jet, with it's bigger brothers E90/E95. I wonder how the C-series will perform once delivered.

Good to see it's a favourite regional jet among a lot of people! I have always liked the BAe146 but haven't flown on one since 1996 but the flight in the E-Jet was quite something. I'll have to find a longer flight next time!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 6):
Thanks for a great concluding TR on your Aussie domestic run! .. Excellent pictures as always, and i think i need me one of those wide angles!

Hey Roni,

Thanks a lot for your comments! Yep, I love this wide angle lens so much so that I bought my own and it'll be properly commissioned on Friday morning when I take on the A342! I hope I can take some good photos..

Quoting ronerone (Reply 6):
You seemed not to have really enjoyed your E70 experience. I have always been somewhat interested in flying an Embraer and whenever i do get the chance, i think it will most likely be with Royal Jordanian.

It was too short.. I bet on a longer flight it would have been more fun as I would have been able to take pictures in the cabin etc. That'd be a nice TR there!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 6):
I personally love sitting in the very last row. I can see all the action, and i also do not mind an aisle seat especially when i want to snap pics of the service.

Yeah, I forgot about taking photos like you do of the service. But there wasn't much service and it would have been pretty boring taking pictures of the flight attendants' behinds   Plus being tired means you kinda forget what shots to take and what not to take.. I think I had stored my camera for breakfast.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 6):
Very small!

They are quite old though, probably in line for a refurbishment soon to line it up with the A380. That'd make the plane much nicer to travel on.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 6):
Intersting, i've never seen this 'config' before!

A Qantas specialty I guess! But something I'm sure they're willing to never repeat again.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 6):
Even for a longer flight, this is a great offering!

Yeah, it's probably a standard breakfast for all Cityflyer flights out of Sydney. I would expect to be served the same thing on a flight to Perth.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 6):
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
supermarket docket

LOL
Quoting airpearl (Reply 4):
I really dislike those supermarket check-out receipts! It may sound like a very silly thing, but it bugs me (and screws up my BP collection!)

I think we all hate these dockets! Don't worry, it bugs me too.. I think it'll be the first one to fade as well. Screws up my BP collection as well!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 6):
Haha .. if i was on that excursion, id forget about that bomb dude and find the nearest window to watch the outdoor action!

Too bad there was no action! That's why my eyes were fixed on the bomb dude for a while  
I managed to get a view of both the tarmac and the bomb dude!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 7):
You have really saved the best for last. Nicely written and well detailed. And the pictures...crisp and just beautiful. It makes me want to go down under again as soon as possible.

Hi Suryo,

Thanks a lot for your comments! I'm glad you enjoyed reading it. Do come down under! You won't be disappointed, especially if you choose to leave the northern winter behind  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 7):
It seems like it had worked out for you. Was the terminal not too crowded that morning?

That's the great thing about Australian (and NZ) airports. The security process is a complete breeze and it only takes a couple of minutes to make your way through security. They have a lot of checkpoints open which clear the queues quite quickly. I think it'd be hard to miss your flight if you check in 30 minutes prior, no matter if it's peak hour or not. I suppose you Europeans have it quite differently!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 7):
I envy you on this one. This bird is still on my wish-list.

Your chance will come! Just like mine on European airlines!



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 14010 times:


Hi Markus,

Thanks for your comments! Glad you enjoyed. I believe it's still in the mid 20s now - I'll find out when I get back over there shortly!

Hmm.. A.Net doesn't like me.. Here's the rest of that post..

Quoting akhmad (Reply 7):
Tell me about it! Though it has been a while since i flew a 1 hour-plus intra European flight.

Remember, it's just Qantas that provides this down here. Air New Zealand switched to basically being a LCC on domestic - a stark contrast to 2001 when I received my last full meal onboard the
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):
good stuff, a nice read and how I love these sunny pictures showing the warm climate of southern Australia.
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):
Congrats to the E70, a nice and modern machine, spacious and comfortable, also my opinion.

It's a rare bird down here. It'd be nice if DJ expanded their E90 services and send some on Trans Tasman routes and I wouldn't mind trying it out on a longer flight.

Thanks again guys!

Cheers,
Nicholas


It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6945 posts, RR: 77
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 13690 times:

Hi Nicholas,

thanks for posting yet another high-quality report with many nice pictures! Good to hear you got two new types. I can only agree about the E-Jets: simply great aircraft.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
Because this was an internationally configured A332, there were PTVs in every seat. The remote was in the armrest and definitely in a bad position, prone to bumps like many have pointed out over the years. It also narrows down the armrest and would be quite uncomfortable to lean on for a long haul flight unless you manage to get by with your elbow on the small portion of the armrest which is ‘normal’.

The PTVs are really small and the handset should be stored in the seatback.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
My request was politely declined by the purser using “the pilots have a very busy schedule and this aircraft is due for a quick turnaround” as the excuse.

Bad to hear...

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
There was a PA advising everyone that there was a school excursion happening and told people not to be worried if a man in a green suit was walking around the terminal..

I guess that was a good idea.

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
It’d probably dry hair quicker than an A340 engine!

Good one!  
Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
It sounds silly and hypocritical that the flight attendants are allowed to serve passengers their buy on board offerings when they expect turbulence as a loose cart is undoubtedly going to cause more harm in times of turbulence than a person is going to. I was ordered back to my seat when I tried to go to the toilet and they continued to serve passengers.

I can only agree. If they were serious about safety they would also stop selling stuff.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 13668 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 11):
thanks for posting yet another high-quality report with many nice pictures! Good to hear you got two new types. I can only agree about the E-Jets: simply great aircraft.

Hi PH,

Thanks for your comments! Glad you enjoyed. Yes, I'm quite happy getting the 2 types. I didn't have a clue what I was going to hop on for the MEL-CBR leg to be honest and I actualy thought that I'd get an E90 but there's nothing wrong with the 73G I took. It probably means I'll try to secure more E-Jets in the future somewhere else in the world! 3 more new types for me over the next week too if I choose the QF 734 between SYD and MEL (which I'm leaning towards).

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 11):
The PTVs are really small and the handset should be stored in the seatback.

I've got no idea how old it is but I've got a feeling it's been installed since it arrived with QF. It seems like it would have been on par with the 747 fleet at the time as well but now that they've found better technology for the A380, I wonder how long it'll take for them to install that. Yes, the handset should definitely be stored in the seatback.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 11):
I guess that was a good idea.

It probably was seeing that passengers might have freaked out if they saw this weird guy in a suit walking around the place but I'm sure he would have been escorted by a couple of police officers anyway. He also appeared from the toilets which kinda suggests he got into it there and didn't really have much interaction with the general public anyway.


Regards,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineryanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13619 times:

Nice continuation of your journey...

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
It sounds silly and hypocritical that the flight attendants are allowed to serve passengers their buy on board offerings when they expect turbulence as a loose cart is undoubtedly going to cause more harm in times of turbulence than a person is going to. I was ordered back to my seat when I tried to go to the toilet and they continued to serve passengers.

If a cart does indeed fly around (heaven forbid should that ever happen!), probably the people hurt would only be in THAT vicinity. Better to have the flight attendants injured than passengers all over the aircraft being flung about like rag dolls due to turbulence! I guess that is why their job carried such high risk!

Clear Air Turbulence is no laughing matter and although it can be reported and forecast (based on prevailing weather conditions and immediate PIREPS), expecting it and knowing when is it going to strike is another matter altogether. The threat is invisible.

So while us getting strapped to our seats with the seatbelt sign on with the flight attendants still patrolling the aisle might not make immediate sense, ponder a little and it begins to pan out why the set up is such. It is for our own good.

I have been a victim of a serious air pocket event and I saw first hand what a plunging jet could do. People were flung to the ceiling (passengers and flight attendants), books, cups, shoes, and whatever which wasn't strapped down... Even a puddle of orange juice swirling for a few seconds ON THE CEILING! There was no warning it was going to happen. The weather was as bright as day and clear as crystal.

It was in 1985 on a China Arlines 747-200. Now if a plane as large as a 747-200 could be put through that torture hitting an airpocket, what's more the mere little jets you were on? Shudder...



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 13582 times:

Quoting ryanair!!! (Reply 13):

Thanks for commenting Ryan!

Gotcha. I think it's one of those experiences where you don't know the full extent of it until you experience it for yourself. I was nearly caught in a fire in late 2008 and I take every precaution around fire drills nowadays that my friends think I'm nuts for making my way out of the building as quickly as possible. The same mindset applies in this case too IMO - you think nothing of it and dismiss it completely until it actually happens to you. Even so, I still doubt that severe air turbulence can strike at 16000ft or thereabouts which was our approximate altitude.. Can't have been much more than 20000, if that.

It still doesn't make sense to me that the FAs are allowed to continue serving though. I concur though that it was such a short flight that nobody in their right mind would have bought anything onboard unless they were that keen on supporting DJ or wanted to buy something mid-air for the sake of it and due to that their pass through the cabin was rather brief but it still poses as quite a "potential threat" if severe turbulence does strike.

I'm pretty sure the pilots just flew that route so they knew what to expect.. And hence the FAs must have believed that it was safe enough for them to operate down the aisle too. But anyway enough of my rambling.. I take your point and I'll definitely be more cautious in the future.

Cheers,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineEconojetter From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 430 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 13208 times:

Hi Nicholas,

Really enjoyed the report, especially since I was in Australia last week and flew on QF.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_cYYIjMZbEQA/S7mcz_2sd1I/AAAAAAAAENo/7dBUI7J_ypg/s800/IMG_6834edit.jpg
From these gates, there's a nice view of runway 16R. I had such a great time watching airliners float in over the threshold.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Because this was an internationally configured A332, there were PTVs in every seat. The remote was in the armrest and definitely in a bad position, prone to bumps like many have pointed out over the years.

I flew on the A333 into BNE and had the same configuration. I did notice though that the call button was recessed, so one would have to poke at it with something at least as pointy as a finger.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
On the tray was a box of cereal, milk, a scone, orange juice and a small orange/mandarin. It was probably more than what I was expecting and did its job in filling me up.

Very similar to the breakfast they served us on CNS-SYD. Good and wholesome. We got sliced apples for fruit and the bun/scone was warm. After they cleared the trays, they handed out the tasty heart-shaped biscuits (passionfruit and dark chocolate). QF catering is very good, imo.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Anyway I passed through security to be taken over for secondary bomb testing – they get a swab over your clothes and baggage and run the sample through an itemiser to check for bomb residue (I wonder if they test for drugs at the same time as it’s the same machine?).

I received the treatment at CNS. The security officer was eerily pleasant and said thank you to me in Malay.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
Then after that, the guy in a green bomb suit appeared. Man is that thing laden with Kevlar! They then invited the kids to punch/kick the guy in the green suit as hard as they could..

That's an excellent display! Adults not allowed to try? Hehehe...

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 2):
ocean to line up with Runway 34L, the longer runway in Sydney. It’s funny that all the propeller planes and the E-Jets use the main runway due to the patterns and position of those airports relative to Sydney Airport. The E70 wouldn’t come close to using up the whole runway when landing and this was no exception.

16R was in use while I was transiting. I saw everything from the tiniest to the largest. Plenty of traffic especially before noon. Many smaller aircraft would start their takeoff run farther down the runway. An Air Pacific 744 entered the runway pretty close to where 07/25 crosses it and took off from there over the bay. In the afternoon it seemed most landings were done on 07, and that included a QF 744.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 13104 times:

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
Really enjoyed the report, especially since I was in Australia last week and flew on QF.

Hi Econojetter,

Thanks for your comments! I'm glad you enjoyed reading it. Can we expect a TR from you on this series?  
Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
From these gates, there's a nice view of runway 16R. I had such a great time watching airliners float in over the threshold.

I was doing the same from the DJ gate lounge 2 days prior to this one. View isn't quite as good for the landings (you can check out the handful I uploaded in part 3) but you see them taxi back. I didn't have enough time to spot from the QF pier but I could find some time next week when I do another SYD-MEL flight on another aircraft - QF 734.

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
I flew on the A333 into BNE and had the same configuration. I did notice though that the call button was recessed, so one would have to poke at it with something at least as pointy as a finger.

True. Although imagine if you nodded off to sleep and fell on the wrong side of the volume button..  
Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
Very similar to the breakfast they served us on CNS-SYD. Good and wholesome. We got sliced apples for fruit and the bun/scone was warm. After they cleared the trays, they handed out the tasty heart-shaped biscuits (passionfruit and dark chocolate). QF catering is very good, imo.

Yes, catering is great. I do remember the bun/scone thing being warm too, the butter melted quite nicely on it. We didn't get any biscuits! I believe I'll be getting breakfast onboard my next flight so I'll see if I get those biscuits too!

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
That's an excellent display! Adults not allowed to try? Hehehe...

After experiencing how hard Kevlar is, I'm not one to want to try! Maybe with a baseball bat or something  
Quoting Econojetter (Reply 15):
16R was in use while I was transiting. I saw everything from the tiniest to the largest.

Yes, that's correct. I've seen everything from Saab 340s to the A380 take off and land on the runway. Much similar to viewing at AKL mind you, however much less frequency especially of the larger jets!


Cheers,
Nicholas



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User currently offlineJFKMan From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 12977 times:

Very nice TR!

Virgin Blue looks very nice. As does Australia. One place I want to go to so badly...



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 12613 times:

Good afternoon Nicholas. A very nice and interesting report, with some great pics as well!

The QF A330 flight looked really nice. I liked the interiors of the Aircraft, especially the lavatories with the "marlbe'ish" floors, and the chromed toilet paper holders. It looked almost like any toilet you'd find in a home 

The breakfast served looked generous as well, for the short duration of the flight. I'm guessing QF serve a full hot breakfast on their longer domestic segments.

Your flights on DJ looked nice as usual. One question though, did you have to pay for watching the game, or was it free?

Thanks for sharing

//Jonas



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8596 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 12349 times:
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Hi Nicholas,

Great finish to your Australian domestic jollies!

You've posted some great pictures, nice and clean, well done.

Good to finally get on the 170, lovely bird on which to travel, glad you enjoyed her, you'll have to try and catch the 190 next time you visit.

Thanks for the China Southern pic, not seen that bird before, looks very nice.

Interesting Virgin Blue offer Y+, what is the price difference between that and normal Y? - Apart from the spoace, do those pax get free drinks or anything?

Looking forward to your EK trip home.

Best Wishes

Mark



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 12259 times:

Quoting JFKMan (Reply 17):
Very nice TR!

Virgin Blue looks very nice. As does Australia. One place I want to go to so badly...

Hi JFKMan,

Thanks for your comments! Virgin Blue is nice. I still think Qantas is a bit better but that's just me liking full service, air points and the like..

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 18):
Good afternoon Nicholas. A very nice and interesting report, with some great pics as well!

Hi Jonas,

Thanks for your comments! Glad you enjoyed.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 18):
The QF A330 flight looked really nice. I liked the interiors of the Aircraft, especially the lavatories with the "marlbe'ish" floors, and the chromed toilet paper holders. It looked almost like any toilet you'd find in a home

It is quite nice although probably not bright enough IMO. I like Emirates' lavatories. It's also found in JQ A332s  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 18):
The breakfast served looked generous as well, for the short duration of the flight. I'm guessing QF serve a full hot breakfast on their longer domestic segments.

I doubt they do actually. The only one that would warrant this would probably be SYD/MEL/BNE-PER but to make it for a handful of flights would prove pretty costly so I think they would have the same breakfast.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 18):
Your flights on DJ looked nice as usual. One question though, did you have to pay for watching the game, or was it free?

Everything before take off plus about 5 minutes is free and then you have to swipe your credit card if you want to continue watching.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 19):
Great finish to your Australian domestic jollies!

You've posted some great pictures, nice and clean, well done.

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your comments! Glad you enjoyed. I strive to have quality pictures in my TRs.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 19):
you'll have to try and catch the 190 next time you visit.

Next time is at present! I'm in Sydney now having spent the whole afternoon at the airport. Unfortunately I have no time to head to somewhere to catch the E90 before flying out of MEL later next week. But I'll get on it sometime!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 19):
Thanks for the China Southern pic, not seen that bird before, looks very nice

I'm surprised that a lot of you haven't seen it before! But then again CZ doesn't fly their A332s everywhere..

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 19):
Interesting Virgin Blue offer Y+, what is the price difference between that and normal Y? - Apart from the spoace, do those pax get free drinks or anything?

Take a look at their website - it'll give a better explanation than what I can provide. But here's it in short.. SYD-MEL can get down to $70 one way on the cheapest Y fare and up to $380 for what they call 'Corporate Plus' - flexible plus access to the lounge but no extra leg space.. Then for Y+ at $429, you get free food and drinks plus the extra space. I don't really think it's feasible to pay $429 for Y+ on DJ.. If you're spending so much anyway, QF's real Business Class at $600 doesn't sound too bad..

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 19):
Looking forward to your EK trip home.

I'll have 2 on my agenda soon! A345 home from MEL in a few days time.


Regards,
Nicholas



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User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3189 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12081 times:

Thanks for the trip report with all the nice photos. Qantas do a good meal service for breakfast and dinner flight even on the hour flights between BNE-SYD-MEL


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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8596 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11884 times:
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Quoting NZ107 (Reply 20):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 19):
Interesting Virgin Blue offer Y+, what is the price difference between that and normal Y? - Apart from the spoace, do those pax get free drinks or anything?

Take a look at their website - it'll give a better explanation than what I can provide. But here's it in short.. SYD-MEL can get down to $70 one way on the cheapest Y fare and up to $380 for what they call 'Corporate Plus' - flexible plus access to the lounge but no extra leg space.. Then for Y+ at $429, you get free food and drinks plus the extra space. I don't really think it's feasible to pay $429 for Y+ on DJ.. If you're spending so much anyway, QF's real Business Class at $600 doesn't sound too bad..

- Bugger, sounds like the $70 is the best price, the rest for what you get seems mad!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11533 times:

Quoting BNE" class="quote" target="_blank">BNE (Reply 21):
Thanks for the trip report with all the nice photos. Qantas do a good meal service for breakfast and dinner flight even on the hour flights between BNE-SYD-MEL

Hi BNE,

Thanks for your comments! Glad you enjoyed.

I was disappointed yesterday with the 'refreshment' which consisted of a muffin. Next time I travel with QF, I'm making sure I get breakfast, lunch or dinner!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 22):
Bugger, sounds like the $70 is the best price, the rest for what you get seems mad!

Completely! I wouldn't know who would opt for the other fares unless you had no choice!


Cheers,
Nicholas



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6945 posts, RR: 77
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10668 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 12):
It probably means I'll try to secure more E-Jets in the future somewhere else in the world!

Yes, I guess there will be many chances in the future considering how popular these birds are.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 12):
3 more new types for me over the next week too if I choose the QF 734 between SYD and MEL (which I'm leaning towards).

Taking the QF 734 may be a good decision considering that their days are numbered.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 20):
Everything before take off plus about 5 minutes is free and then you have to swipe your credit card if you want to continue watching.

Interesting concept. Do they also show ads the whole time like on CO if you don't pay for the IFE?


PH



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25 NZ107 : Hi PH, Indeed. Plenty more to come too. CRJs, more ERJs.. I really hope I can jump on another AVRO/BAe 146 before they all get too old. Know of many n
26 PlaneHunter : I'm sure you will get numerous chances to fly on these birds. Other large operators are Cityjet, Brussels Airlines and LH Cityline. National Jet Syst
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