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LCC In Spain: TLV-BCN-SVQ-REU With UX, VY & FR  
User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1309 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22820 times:

Last flight described in this TR was taken, from Europe, just 48 hours before this volcanic chaos started; feeling so lucky, I would like to dedicate this TR to all those who are away from their homes, unwillingly, in particular to fellow Israelis who wanted to celebrate (our 62nd) independence day at home, and got stuck in Europe.
I hope I can entertain some of you during those complicated days.

Background:
Pretty much the same like last time – my father had a business meeting in Spain, Tarragona CT this time, and he asked me if I want to come along. The dates were OK with my studies (I only missed 2 days at the University), so it was a good opportunity to visit new places and add few more flights to my logbook.
Since last time we were in Barcelona and Valencia, we looked for another place to visit and decided to go south, to Andalucía, that our entry and exit point was Seville’s San Pablo airport – SVQ, from Barcelona BCN.

Booking:
The Jewish holyday of Passover was celebrated in Israel this month, ended just a day prior to our flight. That meant dozens of planes flying full to Israel returning who spent the holyday abroad, and flying back to their bases empty. That meant for us – great flying fares out of Israel.
I wanted to fly on the 7th and to return on the 13th (my father's meeting was in Tarragona on the 12th), but there was way cheaper Air Europa flight on the 14th (the night between 13th-14th actually) so we decided to stay extra 12 hours in Barcelona in order to take that one (in less then half the price!). The Booking itself was done online using an Israeli travel agency website which offered the best price of that particular flight 3 weeks prior to departure. No seat choosing option was available.

I searched for domestic flight from BCN to SVQ (one way), and after some price comparison I found that the best offer in terms of Price+time was on Vueling Airlines – thus I booked the flight on the airline's friendly website. I decided not to choose seat in advance (10-2 euros per passenger, depends on which seat) since there is usually no window seats problem on narrow jets flights and as long as I have window I don't care if it's on the pront or in the back.
Vueling offers check in online option – I used it and checked in online 6 days prior to our flight; we got seats 29A+B, 3rd row from the back to the left (fine with me). There was still option to choose seats with extra charge (same price, 10-2 euros).

On the return leg, I was surprised to find that Ryanair is operating direct flights from SVQ to Reus airport (REU), the nearest airport to Tarragona, and not to BCN. Hence I booked the return leg on FR saving that way time and money both by avoiding the ride from Barcelona to Tarragona and by flying Ryanair. I never flew true LCC airline like Ryanair before so in addition it was a good opportunity to see what it is all about. I didn't choose the priority boarding option (4.6 Euros each - from the same reason I didn't choose seat with Vueling).
With Ryanair check in online is mandatory, therefore I checked in online for the FR flight too, with no seat assignment (as usual with Ryanair).

Both Domestic flights were booked 12 days prior the first flight. One thing that pissed me off is the extra charge for using credit card, both on Vueling and Ryanair – addition of 10 Euros per reservation. How they expect me to pay when booking on line?

The holiday passed and the time has come for my second visit to Spain in 3 months.

Leg 1:
We arrived to TLV airport at 05:15, SDT was 06:55.
Drop off area:

Check in:
Check in was done on G level, in an area usually use only star alliance airlines (while UX is skyteam member). My hope for empty flight vanished with the sight of the long line, the only 3 counters open were those of our flight, manned by the 3 slowest airline employees in west asia – the check in waiting took us no less then 35 minutes (!). We were told that the flight is fully booked, and we got seats 3A+B without been asked about our preferences. The check and boarding processes were done by Areo Handling employees and not by Air Europa.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4470/imgp3421r.jpg

The check in mess – this is only a third of the line:
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3238/imgp34201.jpg

Add to this waiting a 10 minutes line (relatively long) in the passport control hall, and it turned out that we were in the airside area when boarding already started, so no duty-free/lounges this time.

Israel Independence day posters along the passports->duty free corridor:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9969/imgp3422.jpg

B wing:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8527/imgp3428.jpg

FIDS (for B wing only):
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2316/imgp3423q.jpg

Gate:
B1a gate is using for flights parked on remote stands and it is located one lever under the regular (airbridges) gates level. This is the first time that I fly international from remote stand since the new international terminal in TLV opened, in late 2004.

Gate area:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3511/imgp3429v.jpg

Gate B1a:


Boarding pass:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1081/imgp3435.jpg

We got on the 3rd and last bus, and we were force to wait another 15 minutes inside the bus due to a rude late passenger.

The TLV airport bus that took us to our 738:
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9646/imgp3437.jpg

Monarch B757, taken on our way to the airplane:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1618/imgp3431.jpg

Air Mediterranee A321:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3219/imgp3438.jpg

Igale Azur A321:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7593/imgp3450.jpg

Ben Gurion airport control tower:


Boarding via L1:
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2883/imgp3447i.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/83/imgp3453.jpg

Cockpit:


Flight details:
Flight number: UX456
Airline: Air Europa
Airplane: Boeing B737-800 EC-HBN (Built 1999)
Route: Tel Aviv Ben Gurion Israel (TLV) -> Barcelona El Part CT Spain (BCN).
Date: Wednesday, April 7th 2010
Seat: 3A
Runways: 26 -> 07L
Gates: B1a (Terminal 3) -> A21 (Terminal 1)
SDT/SAT: 06:55/10:35

Actual timing:
Pushback: 7:09
Taxi: 7:15
Wheels off: 7:33 (GMT+2)
Touchdown: 11:15 (GMT+1)
Full stop: 11:21

Airborne time: 4 hours 42 minutes
Gate to Gate time: 5 hours 12 minutes (scheduled 4:40)

Once boarded, we were greeted in "Boker Tov" (good morning in Hebrew) by smiley FA, and went to our seats.

Seat:
We were seated in row 3, which is the last row (3/3) of "Blub Business" cabin, UX's J class. Our flight was operated as single class flight; but if I would have bought this seat as a biz class seat I would have want to get my money back: there are 6 seats in a row (3-3, 737 standard) so the seat isn't wider then the rest of the cabin, and the legroom is smaller then some airlines Y class, take a look:





http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6135/imgp3474x.jpg

So except for this “club business” sign and the (open) cretin behind us, this cabin and business class has nothing to do with each other, still, with the friendly greeting onboard and the biz-like seat, Air Europa was a nice surprise so far.

Flight:
The safety video was played while we taxied to RWY 26.

Post-takeoff view of TLV:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9149/imgp3460.jpg

Morning rush hour on highway number 1 on the entry to Tel Aviv:


East Rishon LeZion:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/776/imgp3462.jpg

Road 4:


West Rishon LeZion:
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7339/imgp3465s.jpg

Crossing Israel’s coast line heading west:


Food: After takeoff, drinks were offered together with boring cheese sandwiches – nothing to write home about, but with an airline offering only BOB service on short flights it was more then I expected. Duty free items were offered right after.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9330/imgp3471b.jpg

After the duty free service, the FAs (crew of 4, all female) disappeared from sight, all the way till landing. No another round of drinks or any other kind of service during this almost 5 hours long flight.

Safety card and inflight magazine:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4646/imgp3480c.jpg

Duty free magazine, sick bag and BOB menu:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/116/imgp3481q.jpg

When I got up to use the front lav, about 45 minutes before landing, I saw all 4 FAs in the front galley. Another passenger told me that there was no crew member in the back, and that the toilets are filthy back there (the loo in the front was kept pretty clean). Still, when the passenger in the first row asked one of the FAs a question (how to get from the airport to somewhere) she answered politely in professionally.

Entertainment: None. Except for few commercials after takeoff, the screens were blank thought the flight (not even a map of the airplane location).

Some flight view – it was a great day to fly with some spectacular views; this is the Greek island of Karpathos:




More of Greece – Thira:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8867/imgp3483b.jpg



Mitos:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4420/imgp3486.jpg



http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9766/imgp3488w.jpg

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3164/imgp3495d.jpg

Our small wannabe-biz cabin:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7344/imgp3508g.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6052/imgp3509y.jpg

The rest of the cabin, right behind me, LF=100% today:
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7006/imgp3490.jpg

Southern Italy and Southern France:




Anyone recognize?


Entertainment – better then some movies I saw:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/456/imgp3511x.jpg

Descending from south along Costa Brava:




http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8885/imgp3515m.jpg

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9886/imgp3516.jpg

We made bumpy descend to RWY 07L, the touchdown was smooth, but breaking was violent – it felt as if the Captain wanted to make it to one of the taxi exit point fast, otherwise I have no other way to explain the hard breaking, when there was still more then half of the runway left. No a word was said about the 40 minutes delay.

Look to the wing while breaking:


Air Europa Embraer:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9190/imgp3520d.jpg

We taxied to gate A21 in T1 (the new and large one), passed passport control in about 10 minutes, our suitcase was one of the first out, and we exited to the arrival hall.

Connecting at BCN:
From the arrival hall we got up the escalator to the departure floor, and headed to the Vueling check in zone. After checking in (described few paragraphs ahead) I used the free time to visit BCN's T2, the older terminal now uses mainly for low cost flights.

The escalator connecting the arrival and departure floors:


After checking in, I went to tour out T2: it is divided to 3 sections, A, B and C. A section was closed after the opening of T1, B section has the arrival section and holds all departures from T2 except EasyJet flights, and C section uses only EZY departures.

External part of A section:
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4640/imgp3539y.jpg

External part of B section (it was designed by Juan Miro):
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6495/imgp3538.jpg

External part of C section – now uses only Easyjet flights:
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4700/imgp3542j.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8176/imgp3543j.jpg

C section check in area:
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4127/imgp3545.jpg

Old control Tower:


T2 arrival area:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/388/imgp3547.jpg

B section check in counters:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7725/imgp3548.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/527/imgp3549t.jpg

A section closed check in counters – too bad, it is very impressive check in hall:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3922/imgp3550.jpg

Bridge connecting T2 to the airport’s train station:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5591/imgp3551.jpg

T2 FIDS:


Flags of the European Union, Spain and Catalunya outside the Terminal:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2325/imgp3535.jpg

I took the airport shuttle bus back to T1:
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3176/imgp3531.jpg

Leg 2:

T1 drop off area:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3568/imgp3554.jpg

T1 FIDS – a bit fuller then T2:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/268/imgp3555.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5555/imgp3556e.jpg

Check in:
We went to Vueling check in counters 3 hours prior to departure time. Vueling has a large check in area used for all it’s flights. We stood in line, with the home printed boarding passes, when an airline employee approached us and told us that if we did the check in online, we can skip check in and just to go to a baggage drop counter – good, since the line there was way shorter.
We waited for about 2-3 minutes, then we were accepted by kind agent. I asked if I can move forward, and she kindly agreed, then moved us to row 7, seats A+B.

Baggage drop check in desk sign:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/1189/imgp3524.jpg

People get to the airport with no tickets and buy them here?
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9538/imgp3525x.jpg

The drop off line:


Vueling Airlines check in area:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8383/imgp3529.jpg

After my T2 tour, I got back to T1, then I passed security with no line at all, and got back to the airside of T1.

Shopping area:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8613/imgp3558.jpg

A gates:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8126/imgp3559.jpg

Aeroflot A321:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5108/imgp3560.jpg

B gates – the terminal largest gates area, uses for EU (and domestic) flights:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2600/imgp3564a.jpg

Spanair pair – B717 & A320:
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6827/imgp3565n.jpg

C gates:
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8343/imgp3563.jpg

My ride for today – Mrs. Ling.Veu.Ling:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8207/imgp3568g.jpg

Boarding pass:
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5641/imgp3566.jpg

Boarding:
The boarding call caused an huge line in front of the counter, and only after few minutes a counter employee called only to the passengers seating in lines 15 to 31 to board. Only when just a few people remained in line all passengers were called to board, then we boarded as well, only to wait in another line at the airbridge. Once onboard, we were “greeted” by grumpy FA, who didn’t say a word, only after I told him ‘hello’ he said silent “hola” in noticeable unwillingness. One hell of a warm welcome.

Gate:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3637/imgp3569.jpg

Half of the airbridge line – another half was behind me:
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9736/imgp3570.jpg

Flight details:
Flight: VY2266
Airline: Vueling Airlines
Airplane: Airbus A320 EC-KCU "My name is Ling.Vue.Ling" (ex. Clickair, Built 2007)
Route: Barcelona El Prat Catalunya (BCN) -> Sevilla San Pablo Andalucía (SVQ).
Date: Wednesday, April 7th 2010.
Seat: 7A
Runways: 07R -> 09
Gates: B27 (T1) -> 2
STD/SAT: 14:40/16:15

Actual timing:
Pushback: 14:41
Taxi: 14:45
Wheels off: 14:54
Touchdown: 16:10
Full stop: 16:12

Airborne time: 1 hour 16 minutes.
Gate to Gate time: 1 hour 28 minutes (Scheduled 1:35).

The flight was pushbacked on time (Vueling enforces a strict policy of closing the gate 10 minutes prior to takeoff), and we taxied to runway 07R.

Mini-Alitalia during Taxi:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8638/imgp3571.jpg

Airport view after takeoff:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1391/imgp3575.jpg

Barcelona view after takeoff – weather wasn’t to good as can see:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2509/imgp3578n.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7222/imgp3420.jpg

Flight:
Entertainment: None. (free) Drinks: None. (free) Food: None. Legroom was horrible – It’s only 1:15 flight, and my knees hurt like hell after landing because during the 1 hour and 40 minutes I spent inside that airplane my knees were squeezed to the seat in front of me. Flight views and keeping the schedule were the only good things on that flight.

A picture worth 1000 words:


Safety card, airline magazine:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3959/imgp3581.jpg

Sick bag, BOB menu, my boarding pass:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8599/imgp3582o.jpg

Cabin view from my seat backwards – load factor very high:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5531/imgp3572.jpg

The only empty seats were those in the front rows, which cost extra:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8286/imgp3588.jpg

Beautiful Spain:

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5200/imgp3586j.jpg



http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3715/imgp3589p.jpg





After another bumpy descend, the plane turned left over eastern Seville and landed on RWY 09. Short Taxi brought us to gate 2.

Airbrakes on during descending:


Eastern Sevilla:


Our shade:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1314/imgp3595.jpg

Touchdown:


Terminal view:
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8828/imgp3597.jpg

Welcome to Seville:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1566/imgp3598.jpg

Baggage claim hall:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4814/imgp3599s.jpg

Unorganized arrival hall:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2362/imgp3601.jpg

External view of arrival floor:
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8457/imgp3603u.jpg

Now an important tourist warning: DO NOT LEASE A CAR FROM “GOLDCAR”!!!

We made reservation for this car rental agency, got there (their office is not at the airport) then we were told that we can not lease a car “because we do not have international drive license”. That is b/s: the Israeli driving license is designed like the European one, it is written in English (and Hebrew) and myself so as my father used it to rent cars all over Europe (EU and non-EU), USA & Canada with no problem. Still, a woman working there refused to lease us a car in spite of our reservation. She also refused to contact the agency which we booked our car from, said, rudly “do it youself, it’s not my job”, and when we asked for a supervisor she said “I manager”.
Well, unpleasant, but still – they have the right to do so. Then come the part I wasn’t expecting: when my father asked this goldcar employee to give some kind of document that we didn’t get the service we paid for to get our money back, she refused to give us anything and – believe it or not – she even refused to tell us her name! Who heard about service provider who refuses to identify himself?
All that was done rudely in front of other people, including some shouting in Spanish which I didn’t understand. Eventually we leased car from other local agency at the airport (no problem with the license there, naturally) but not before we were humiliated in front of other people, saw and heard things that we thought can’t happen in a place with so much tourism.

The only way to treat those people is to spared out the word and to get them out of business.

After that unpleasant incident, we Spent 4 days in Andalucia, here are some pics:

Ecija:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8653/imgp3609.jpg

Cordoba:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6981/imgp3613k.jpg

Plaze de la Corredera:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1556/imgp3619.jpg

Mosque:


Rabi Moshe Ben Mimon statue:


Typical Andalucían view – olive trees from horizon to horizon:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8770/imgp3645x.jpg

Jean:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7655/imgp3658.jpg

Granda:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3372/imgp3735.jpg



Alhamba palace:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9239/imgp3732t.jpg

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5605/imgp3692.jpg

Same location at night:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3339/imgp3725.jpg

Local courthouse:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8169/imgp3721.jpg

Sierra Nevada Mountains:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3833/imgp3740.jpg

Costa del Sol:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2582/imgp3742.jpg

Marbella:


"In our country, those who do not believe in miracles are irrational" - David Ben Gurion.
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User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1309 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22840 times:

Marbella:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1714/imgp3748.jpg

Gibraltar – Britain in the middle of Spain:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/8709/imgp3758.jpg

My first visit to Britain since 1998:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6108/imgp3761.jpg

Gibraltar’s crazy airport – Terminal building:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4841/imgp3762.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9783/imgp3763.jpg

Traffic on the runway:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6797/imgp3765.jpg

Control tower and new terminal under construction in the background:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6907/imgp3766.jpg

How many of you walked across active runway in an international airport?
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/202/imgp3769.jpg

Gibraltar:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7641/imgp3778r.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7806/imgp3785.jpg

Sevilla (Seville):
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6725/imgp3836.jpg

Same location at night:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7973/imgp3872.jpg

Alcazar palace garden:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2315/imgp3800.jpg

Plaza de San Francisco:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2456/imgp3788.jpg

Same location at night:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7457/imgp3870.jpg

Costurero de la Reina:


Night view of the Cathedral:


Sevilla’s unique logo: http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8794/imgp3839.jpg

Museum of popular art:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7581/imgp3820.jpg

Tore del Oro:


On Sunday morning it was time to return to Calalunya.

Leg 3:
We left hour hotel, drove (in total darkness of 7am) to the airport, returned our rental car and got to the Ryanair baggage drop desk.

Drop off area – look how dark it is outside at 07:20am:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1706/imgp3888s.jpg

Check in Hall:
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8093/imgp3882.jpg

Even though there was only 1 FR check in counter, there was no waiting line at all (still, while we stood there a line began behind us). We took out our home-print-A4 boarding passes, our luggage weight was OK, check in the suitcase, then went to grave quick breakfast.

Logo behind the only check in desk:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5026/imgp3883l.jpg

Ryanair destinations out of Seville:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9383/imgp3884.jpg

FIDS:


Security was about 10 minutes wait but the check itself wasn't strict at all (I understood that that's the way it is in Spain), and we walked all the way to the gate, when boarding was already underway.

Gates area – don’t want to imagine how crowded this small terminal is in the summer:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8339/imgp3892z.jpg

My homemade boarding pass:


Gate:


Gate 10 is at the very end of SVQ's small terminal. We stood in line, passed the boarding check, down the stairs, and walked to the airplane parked right outside the terminal. Boarding was done by groups and in order, without any cahos sceans I imagined on non pre-seated flights.

Flight details:
Flight: FR2116
Airline: Ryanair
Airplane: Boeing B737-800 EI-EBP (Built 2009)
Route: Sevilla San Pablo Andalucía (SVQ) -> Reus Airport Catalunya (REU).
Date: Sunday, April 11th 2010.
Seat: 27F -> 1A
Runways: 09 -> 07
Gates: 10 -> (walk)
STD/SAT: 08:35/10:00

Actual timing:
Pushback: ---
Taxi: 8:30
Wheels off: 8:35
Touchdown: 9:40
Full stop: 9:45

Airborne time: 1 hour 5 minutes
Gate to Gate time: 1 hour 15 minutes (Scheduled 1:25).

My ride for today – this brand new B738, EI-EBP:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8210/imgp3895.jpg

Registration:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6044/imgp3896g.jpg

Tail:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1353/imgp3897.jpg

I got on the plane from the rare door (L4), greeted by a crew member who marked something on my A4 boarding pass

Once on board, I was surprised to see how new the airplane was. On the last 4-5 rows A4 paper was on the middle tray says "Please do not seat here". I moved a bit forward, and got myself a window seat on the right side of the plane just behind the wing, 27F. The legroom was fine – a nice surprise – way better then Vueling. No seat pocket and the safety card is part of the seat infront. 2 cute kids were seated next to me by their mother who sat herself on the other side of the isle.

Terminal view while taxing:
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8824/imgp3899.jpg

Airbus military factory in the airport:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8113/imgp3900x.jpg

27F legroom:


We made a short taxi to RWY 09, and made a surprisingly long takeoff. After climbing and since the flight load factor was just 107/189 (56.6%) I offered the mother to seat next to her children, and I moved with my father to the first row, myself in 1A (damn, why when finely I get to seat on "1A" it has to be with Ryanair?). Leg room was, as expected, way better here:


Post-takeoff wing view:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3360/imgp3903.jpg

Cabin view from the first row – notice the low load factor:
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Flight itself was like been in nonstop commercial break: the crew (2 English speakers and one Spanish) made endless announcements about items to buy on board: first drinks and food, then duty free items (perfumes mostly), theme park tickets, rental car, lotto tickets – you name it. I think that carrying the stuff cost them more then the selling, since no one was buying anything.

Some flight views:
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Everything was fine, except that prior to landing, one FA told me that I need to shut down the camera. Something with digital instruments. I told him that I have flown dozens of flights, taking photos in most of them with no problem, once I even took photos in the cockpit of a 747 during landing (LY105, back in 2002) – nothing seems to convince him. Except this, the crew was fine.

An airport under construction – someone recognize?
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Wind turbines are common sight in Spain:
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We passed the city of Reus, then landed on RWY 07, then taxied on the runway to the parking area while the chief FA was bragging about landing ahead of schedule. On the parking area, just one more FR B738 parked next to us.

The runway, taken when the plane made U turn to taxi:
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Disembarking was done via L1, on the 737 built-in staircase, and since I was on the first row I was the first off the plane:
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Post-flight:
We made relatively long walking around the departure terminal to the baggage claim hall. There were "No photography" signs, but no one told me anything.

External view of the REU terminal gates area – we walked all around the departure area to get to the baggage claim hall:

Plane parking area:
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Baggage claim hall:
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Arrival hall (departure check in area is right ahead):
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External view of arrival hall:
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External view of departure hall:
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The public transport in REU is coordinated with the flights (due to the relatively light traffic in REU airport) therefore buses to Reus city and to Barcelona-Sants were waiting when we left the terminal building. Against my expectations, most passengers did not get on the double-decker bus to Barcelona, but went on the bus to Reus or picked up by their relatives waited for them or got to their cars at the airport parking – thus they were locals, and not used the Ryanair flight to get to Barcelona. No more then 15 people got on the Barcelona-heading bus:
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Spanish air force monument:
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The bus to Tarragona came 15 minutes afterwards (since the flight landed earlyer then expected), we got on it (2.25 Euros each, about 15 minutes ride) and spent the next 2 days in Tarragona.

Some shot from this nice city - Rabmla Nova – the main street:
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My hotel room view:
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Flags of Tarragona, Catalunya and Spain:
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City hall and city hall square:
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Catalunian nationalist graffiti in Tarragona:
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48 hours after our arrival, we got on the regional train to Barcelona-Sants from Tarragona's train station.

Station building:
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Passenger Hall:
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The train to Alicante via Castellion and Valencia, the same one I took 3 months ago, passing thought the station:
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We spent the day in Barcelona, where I did some caching up from last time:

Merkat La Boqueria:
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Catalunya Parliament building:
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Parc de la ciutadella:


Tore Agbar:


Leg 4:
After spending the day in Bacelona, we went back to Sants station to grave out the suitcase (4.5 Euros for up to 24 hours) and hopped on the train to El Part airport, using the same ticket uses for zone 1 of the subway. BCN's train station is located on T2, but right at the exit from the station a free shuttle bus was waiting for the train passengers.

T1 drop off area was empty:
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So as the check in hall (I swear those pics weren’t taken during the volcanic chaos when the airport was closed):
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Looking at the FIDS explained why – we were the only flight on BCN that time:


Check in:
Maybe the entire hall was empty, but there sure was a long line next to our 3 counters, the only 3 open in this entire huge terminal:

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Waiting was 25 minutes, when we were among the last passengers to check in. The 3 check in agents were locals, and the supervisor was a Spanish speaking Israeli. First, we were seated at 7F+8F, told by the local agent that there are no more 2 seats together. He pointed at his computer sceen to show it to us, where I saw that the exit rows were available. I asked the guy if it's possible to seat on the exit row, then the supervisor intervened, telling that that seating there, so as in the first 3 rows (the "Business class") is extra 15 Euros per seat. I told her come on, we are closing the flight, (pointing at the empty line behind me) no one is going to buy it.
("בחייאת רבאק, אנחנו סוגרים את הטיסה, אף אחד כבר לא יקנה את זה")
She said "no problem, I'll give you those seats if no one buys them". Fair enough. We waited few more minutes till the last passenger checked in (there were 8-10 passengers behind us), no one bought the exit row or biz class seats for money (as I expected) and we got new boarding passes, for the exit row, with no one in the middle seat. We were the last passengers to check in for the flight, but we got the best seats on this jet.

We were only passengers to pass security – we were checked by nice older guy that used his best Hebrew on us, then I went to wonder out the empty Terminal:

Closed food court:
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Deserted A wing:
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Swiss A320 and countless Vueling A320s in the back:
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Empty B wing:
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Did someone from the airport management read my other BCN TR?
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http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8381/imgp4092.jpg

With nothing else to do, I got back up to D gates area, passed passport control by a group of policemen that were joking and laughing in one of he counters, and waited to board the flight in our private airport.

Boarding pass:
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After passing the gate, we waited 10 minutes in cold staircase with not enough room and just 4 seats waiting for the airport bus – not professional!


After the bus finely came, we drove to one of the remote stands, and boarding the plane not before waiting in the staircase for a while in the cold weather. I had time to take some pics - T1 view:
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Boarding:
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My ride’s tail:



Finely onboard the plane, we were greeted by one of the FAs, and got to our VIP exit row seat.

Flight: UX455
Airline: Air Europa
Airplane: Boeing B737-800 EC-HGP (Built 1999)
Route: Barcelona El Prat CT Spain (BCN) -> Tel Aviv Ben Gurion Israel (TLV).
Date: Wednesday, April 14th 2010.
Seat: 14A
Gates: D15 (Terminal 1) -> B4 (Terminal 3)
Runways: 07L->12
SAT/SAT: 00:50/05:55

Actual timing:
Pushback: ---
Taxi: 00:56
Wheels off: 01:00 (GMT+1)
Touchdown: 05:26 (GMT+2)
Full stop: 05:35

Airborn time: 3 hours 26 minutes.
Gate to Gate time: 3 hours 41 minutes (scheduled 4:05)

Barcelona view during climbing (in reality it looked better…):
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Flight: The chief FA explained us about the flight service, and among other things she said that when we reach our crusing altitude the flight service will start – but it wasn't till 40 minutes after takeoff (lights were on in spite of the late hour and that most passengers fell sleep) that slow flight service started (same food as last time), followed by even slower duty free service. The crew was polite and professional, but the lights were off only 2.5 hours after takeoff – AKA 40 minutes prior to landing, when the time (in Israel) was already 4:30am! A true "red eye".

Legroom (way better then UX’s “club business”):


Cabin view from my seat (according to the check in supervisor, there were 5 empty seats on the plane, which mean LF of 98%):
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We landed on smoothly on RWY 12 after getting nice night view of Tel Aviv and taxied to gate B2, arrived 30 minutes ahead of schedule.

Tel Aviv during descending:
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Ethiopian B767-300 in the gate next to us:
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Conclusion:
Air Europa flights, both of them, were fine, but it was more the good seats we had then the airline – no harm will be done if a simple slice of tomato is added to the sandwiches, not to mention that no entertainment at all in almost 5 hours flight is not what I expect from any skyteam member. The airline has some improvments to do in the service section.

Vueling was disappointment: rude crew member and unacceptable legroom made me feel that I am flying true "low cost". The only positive thing I can find, except for getting on time, is the kind check in agent.

Ryanair was very good but again, I assume that my experience was different if the plane was full and I would get bad seat. Beside that, the airplane was new and the legroom (on 27F) was better then expected. In total, my view is positive.

This is it, I hope you enjoyed reading it. Comments and feedback are always welcome.

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Please take a look at my other Trip reports:
Y Viva Espana! TLV-BCN-TLV; EL-AL 'basic' (+ Pics) (by EL-AL Jan 29 2010 in Trip Reports)
EL-AL At It's Best: TLV-MXP, FCO-TLV (+pics) (by EL-AL Oct 12 2009 in Trip Reports)
First Sun D'or Pax TR TLV-BOJ (new Link To Pics) (by EL-AL Sep 12 2009 in Trip Reports)



"In our country, those who do not believe in miracles are irrational" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2423 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 21933 times:

GREAT trip-report of one of my favorite countries... well done!

But I would like to da some remarks:

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
We were seated in row 3, which is the last row (3/3) of "Blub Business" cabin, UX's J class. Our flight was operated as single class flight; but if I would have bought this seat as a biz class seat I would have want to get my money back: there are 6 seats in a row (3-3, 737 standard) so the seat isn't wider then the rest of the cabin, and the legroom is smaller then some airlines Y class, take a look:

Well, UX business class seats are flexible. legroom might be tight- but (at least on the newer a/c) the armrest can be folded away- so giving a wider space.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 1):
Vueling was disappointment: rude crew member and unacceptable legroom made me feel that I am flying true "low cost".

True: VUELING was the BEST low-cost carrier in the world. Friendly crews, new and clean aircrafts, imflight entertainment de-luxe, Ibiza chill-out boarding music etc.!

Until the merged with the WORST low-cost airline in the world; Clickair. Rude staff (same trainer as Iberia?), dirty and old aircrafts (but with new seats), no entertainment, not service-orientated.

And now? Well, if you book the new Vueling and (as you) ended up in Clickair, you will get all the problems- like rude staff, tight seats etc.! Also, my last flight on the real, old Vueling was a disappointmet: enterteinment switched off (in line with the old Clickair birds?), dirty aircrafts etc.

It is a relly a shame!    


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26957 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 20765 times:

WOW cool report and lots of great photos. Some airports familar to me. Gibraltar looks cool would love to go.

Thanks again for all the hard work that went into your report.


Philip / OA260


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 20687 times:

Hello, Jonathan,

good stuff, especially all that city pictures from you´re trip around "Espagna", well done.

All the airports in my log and also the airlines, good to compare with my impressions
and also something more to do here in Spain during the summer months.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: The eastern Intersky!.
User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1309 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 20597 times:

Quoting debonair (Reply 2):
GREAT trip-report of one of my favorite countries... well done!

Thank you, Spain is defenetly a fine place to visit in spring. My next targets on the Iberian peninsula are the north, around Bilbao, and Lisbon.

Quoting debonair (Reply 2):
True: VUELING was the BEST low-cost carrier in the world. Friendly crews, new and clean aircrafts, imflight entertainment de-luxe, Ibiza chill-out boarding music etc.!

Until the merged with the WORST low-cost airline in the world; Clickair. Rude staff (same trainer as Iberia?), dirty and old aircrafts (but with new seats), no entertainment, not service-orientated.

And now? Well, if you book the new Vueling and (as you) ended up in Clickair, you will get all the problems- like rude staff, tight seats etc.! Also, my last flight on the real, old Vueling was a disappointmet: enterteinment switched off (in line with the old Clickair birds?), dirty aircrafts etc.

It is a relly a shame!

Shame indeed. Sorry I didn't have the chance to fly VY on it's good days.

Quoting oa260 (Reply 3):
WOW cool report and lots of great photos. Some airports familar to me. Gibraltar looks cool would love to go.

Thanks again for all the hard work that went into your report.

Thx Phil, it was plasure writting it. I didn't have enought time in Gibraltar, only half a day. If you are around, you just HAVE to go to Tarifa - the med sea to the left, Atlantic to the right, Africa ahead and standing in Europe - and all that with 110km hour winds!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
good stuff, especially all that city pictures from you´re trip around "Espagna", well done.

Thank you Markus.



"In our country, those who do not believe in miracles are irrational" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlinepdxtriple7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20131 times:

Thanks for the great report! Your pictures of Seville, Barcelona, and Tarragona made me so nostalgic for the 4.5 months I spent studying abroad in Madrid and Tarragona. Also, your flights on Ryanair, Vueling, and AirEuropa brought back memories of European travel on the weekend. I don't really miss those airlines much though.

User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2761 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 19754 times:

Nice report!

Always nice to see a report from "familiar places"

Also your pictures of Andalucia are very nice, I am tempted to fly to SVQ or GRX as well, I also heard Cadiz is really beautiful, I guess I should start doing some more local tourism 

I have yet to fly on UX, I have flown a few times on Vueling and I never had a problem, the crews are always hit and miss but since I am used to the Spanish No-customer orientated attitude, I am not really bothered.

As for Ryanair... well I just avoid them like diptheria.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Still, a woman working there refused to lease us a car in spite of our reservation. She also refused to contact the agency which we booked our car from, said, rudly “do it youself, it’s not my job”, and when we asked for a supervisor she said “I manager”.
Well, unpleasant, but still – they have the right to do so. Then come the part I wasn’t expecting: when my father asked this goldcar employee to give some kind of document that we didn’t get the service we paid for to get our money back, she refused to give us anything and – believe it or not – she even refused to tell us her name! Who heard about service provider who refuses to identify himself?

See what I meant with the Spanish No-customer orientated attitude.

By law she was obliged to give you a "Hoja de Reclamacion" or a Complaint form, and what is the BS with not accepting the Israel Licence? it is valid, I have rented cars here with a Florida Licence and had no problems at all, next time try renting a car with "Pepecar" they are good and friendly (and cheap)

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Catalunian nationalist graffiti in Tarragona:

   Well, it is Spain whether they like it or not...

MIAspotter.



I think, therefore I don´t fly Ryanair.
User currently offlinetaichen From Spain, joined Jul 2001, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 19025 times:

Hi

I really liked your detailed, informative report and the interesting remarks you made ...

did you like Córdoba ? I was there for my first time some months ago and I really appreciated it !

About Air Europa : I am afraid all Spanish "major" carriers (IB, UX, JK, VY) are nowadays low-key and pretty substandard ... still, UX is probably my current favourite Spanish carrier. Sadly enough, I see them lowering their service standards more and more. Last time I flew an UX 738 on a short domestic hop (mind you, this was some 3 years ago) , they kept silent cartoons on the TV screens the whole flight and all the cabin had those leather seats ... sad, sad, sad. And of course, you could still have the exit row for free.


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26957 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 18677 times:

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 5):
I didn't have enought time in Gibraltar, only half a day

Always wanted to go just maybe for two nights , I hear thats enough just to see it .


User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 18617 times:

Hi El-Al, thanks for this trip report. I'm in a rush, so I managed to read just half of it, but I wanted to post a couple of comments anyway. More will follow as I proceed through reading!

First of all, I wanted to express my envy for TLV airport, it truly looks gorgeous: it is clean, modern, and has a "mediterranean" touch which is uncommon, in this era of airports which seem to be taken out of a Swedish interior design catalogue.

Secondly, about the pitch on Vueling's A320: is it really that short? I was wondering to fly it for a small daytrip to Spain, but if it is such a sardine can... I'll pass.

Thanks in advance!


User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1309 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 18123 times:

Quoting pdxtriple7 (Reply 6):
Thanks for the great report!

You welcome.

Quoting pdxtriple7 (Reply 6):
I don't really miss those airlines much though.

I can understand you. None of those 3 airlines has something to miss for.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 7):
Nice report!

Thank you.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 7):
See what I meant with the Spanish No-customer orientated attitude.

This is way beyond no-customer oriented, this is breaking the law.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 7):
By law she was obliged to give you a "Hoja de Reclamacion" or a Complaint form, and what is the BS with not accepting the Israel Licence? it is valid, I have rented cars here with a Florida Licence and had no problems at all, next time try renting a car with "Pepecar" they are good and friendly (and cheap)

Thx, I'll remember that for next time i'm in Spain.

Quoting taichen (Reply 8):
I really liked your detailed, informative report and the interesting remarks you made ...

Thank you very much, I am glad you liked it.

Quoting taichen (Reply 8):
did you like Córdoba ?

The city itself is nice, but there is nothing to do after 4-5 hours in the old city.

Quoting taichen (Reply 8):
they kept silent cartoons on the TV screens

Well, we had Spanish-oriented commercials. Silent, of course.

Quoting taichen (Reply 8):
you could still have the exit row for free.

That's only because the check in supervisor was an Israeli, I don't think that local UX stuff would give it to us.

Quoting oa260 (Reply 9):
Always wanted to go just maybe for two nights , I hear thats enough just to see it .

Well, the main attraction in Gibraltar is shopping. If you are into that, you have enough to do there.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 10):
Hi El-Al, thanks for this trip report

You welcome.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 10):
First of all, I wanted to express my envy for TLV airport, it truly looks gorgeous

It truly does. Everyone entering into Terminal 3 says it's both efficient and unique.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 10):
Secondly, about the pitch on Vueling's A320: is it really that short? I was wondering to fly it for a small daytrip to Spain, but if it is such a sardine can... I'll pass.

Well...the picture says it all (I'm 1.86 m'). You can buy an exit row seat for 10 Euros per direction.



"In our country, those who do not believe in miracles are irrational" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlinemihairosioru From Romania, joined Sep 2009, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 17528 times:

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):

An airport under construction – someone recognize?

It might be an airport near Castellon de la Plana, Costa Azahar (CAS/LECS):
http://www.aerocas.com/


User currently offlineReifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1357 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 17354 times:

Absolutely great report. You see, this kind of "regular Eco" business class is what you get over here for intra-european flights...

As for Goldcar, same here. Will not use them anymore. Booked a car in Palma Majorca through a big german Car broker called "Cardelmar". While the car was a brand new Ford Fiesta and therefore great, the service was bad. And when I brought back the car with full tank (as told when I rented the car) they nevertheless charged 1/8 of the tank, plus a supplement of a few euros per day because they gave me a Diesel. I know that sometimes if you explicitely want a Diesel they charge an extra fee, but I don't wanted a Diesel. And for the 1/8 they charged, this is because they cannot see if it's really full or if I drove like 20 kms or something, since the tank would still show full then. although I was able to present a fuel receipt that I went to the gas station at the airport 10 minutes ago they didn't cared, since I couldn't prove that I made the tank full at this station. It's just a few euros but nevertheless it's such a bad practice.

Luckily Cardelmar contacted Goldcar for me after my return and made sure they would give me the extra charge back, which took 1 to 2 weeks.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6782 posts, RR: 77
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 17177 times:

Hi Jonathan,

very enjoyable report with many nice pictures. However, it took very long to load.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
but if I would have bought this seat as a biz class seat I would have want to get my money back: there are 6 seats in a row (3-3, 737 standard) so the seat isn't wider then the rest of the cabin, and the legroom is smaller then some airlines Y class, take a look:

Absolutely ridiculous!

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Once onboard, we were “greeted” by grumpy FA, who didn’t say a word, only after I told him ‘hello’ he said silent “hola” in noticeable unwillingness. One hell of a warm welcome.

That's always annoying. People who aren't motivated at all to greet customers shouldn't become flight attendants.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Something with digital instruments. I told him that I have flown dozens of flights, taking photos in most of them with no problem, once I even took photos in the cockpit of a 747 during landing (LY105, back in 2002) – nothing seems to convince him.

Discussions don't help. The best strategy is to hide the camera from the FAs during approach.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Vueling was disappointment: rude crew member and unacceptable legroom made me feel that I am flying true "low cost".

I had a similar experience when I tried Vueling two years ago.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1309 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 16956 times:

Quoting mihairosioru (Reply 12):
It might be an airport near Castellon de la Plana, Costa Azahar

I couldn't find this airport on googlemaps, but maybe.

Quoting Reifel (Reply 13):
Absolutely great report

Thank you very much.

Quoting Reifel (Reply 13):
You see, this kind of "regular Eco" business class is what you get over here for intra-european flights...

Just sad. I'm glad that on LY flight they have real biz class seats, even on short B737 flights.

Quoting Reifel (Reply 13):
As for Goldcar, same here. Will not use them anymore. Booked a car in Palma Majorca through a big german Car broker called "Cardelmar". While the car was a brand new Ford Fiesta and therefore great, the service was bad. And when I brought back the car with full tank (as told when I rented the car) they nevertheless charged 1/8 of the tank, plus a supplement of a few euros per day because they gave me a Diesel. I know that sometimes if you explicitely want a Diesel they charge an extra fee, but I don't wanted a Diesel. And for the 1/8 they charged, this is because they cannot see if it's really full or if I drove like 20 kms or something, since the tank would still show full then. although I was able to present a fuel receipt that I went to the gas station at the airport 10 minutes ago they didn't cared, since I couldn't prove that I made the tank full at this station. It's just a few euros but nevertheless it's such a bad practice.

As I said - the only way to handle this is to spred out of the word and to get them out of business

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
That's always annoying. People who aren't motivated at all to greet customers shouldn't become flight attendants.

Agree.



"In our country, those who do not believe in miracles are irrational" - David Ben Gurion.
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