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The Jumbo Of The North: UK Domestic BA 747 LHR-NCL  
User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 614 posts, RR: 8
Posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14416 times:

The Jumbo of The North – UK Domestic - BA 747 LHR-NCL

Why aye man! This is a report from my recent trip on the BA 747 from London to Newcastle, which quite a few fellow a.net members took (and I’m sure I won’t be the only one to report this trip) This report is about my flight on the 747 from London and my return to London from Edinburgh onboard BA Cityflyer.

B A C K G R O U N D

When I found out from a fellow a.nutter, bmiflyer, that BA would be using a 747 as a one off special on their LHR-NCL-LHR route to celebrate Newcastle airports 75th anniversary, I instantly had to book it, the chance to fly a 747 on a domestic flight, would be a silly opportunity to miss and certainly a much welcomed change to the normal A319/20/21’s that do the BA domestic runs. Even better the fare was just £50 one-way. (£30 from NCL-LHR) Having flown on only 2 747’s in the past (VS examples LHR-SFO-LHR) and that was 8 years ago, I hardly had any memory of what they were like to fly on, so again it would be almost like a new experience for me and it would also be my first time visiting the ‘Toon’.

I managed to secure a day off work then went ahead and booked. I would be flying the LHR-NCL leg of this flight, as this was a lot more convenient for me, living just a few miles from LHR. However, most people on here would be flying the NCL-LHR leg. After speaking with good friend and fellow member Pawsleykat, he booked up and would be flying the LHR-NCL leg with me, before flying back to LHR on the 747.

T H E T R I P

Twenty-four hours prior to departure I checked in online and chose my seat for the flight. I had been allocated 46K, up the back in the World Traveller cabin. There were no other window seats available to select, but this suited me fine. There were a few seats available in the World Traveller Plus cabin but these were middle seats. First and Club World cabins were not open for my leg of the flight but, however, I know Club World was opened for its return flight to London. I also tried to check in for my flight from EDI later in the day and I kept getting an error message. I tried to use the BA iPhone app and got the same message. I know airbuseric had issues with BA online check in also.

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The next morning I had set my alarm for 7am, but I had woken up at about 6:30. I jumped in the shower and did the usual before having a cup of tea (I can’t start the day without one). I was ready to leave the house at 7.40. Luckily for me, both my parents were on a day off from work so my Dad drove me the short 10 minute drive along the M25 to Terminal 5. Just before I was about to leave, Jordan had text me to say he had just arrived at Feltham train station, where he would catch the Bus to Heathrow Central Bus station located at T1,2 and 3, then take the Heathrow Express train to T5, where we had arranged to meet at 8am.

The journey to LHR involved traversing 3 junctions of the M25 motorway, the bain of the motorway commuter’s life, often referred to Europe’s largest car park, but today was an exception to that rule and it was surprisingly fast flowing at this time of the morning. I arrived at the still fresh and new looking Terminal 5 just shy of 20 minutes later, where I called Jordan, who was just exiting the train station a few floors below me. We then met outside the entrance to Zone A and had a smoke before going inside to print our boarding passes from the self serve kiosks, this was all done very easily, as always when using these machines in T5. I also tried to print and change my seat for my flight later on that evening from EDI-LCY as I had problems the night before, and these problems were still happening, with the same error message.

Next stop was clearing security checkpoint. As with all domestic flights departing LHR, my photo was taken, to then be verified at the boarding gate against my boarding pass, then we passed trough for screening. I didn’t bother counting how many lanes there were but there was certainly more than the last time I passed through. We were guided down to lane 4 where we joined the relatively short queue and we were both called forward within a few minutes.

I passed through the metal detector no problems, but my bag was put to one side for further screening. I had to wait 10 minutes before my bag was searched, no apologies for waiting, but the member of staff was too nice for me to complain. We both engaged in a little conversation, she was nice enough. She then made a joke about the person before me leaving all their rubbish all over the table. Turns out I made a schoolboy error. Note to self: Check/empty bag of all items before using again!!! I had left a bottle of sun screen in my bag from my day at the Farnborough Air show, DOH! That was mildly embarrassing after telling the member of staff I had no liquids in my bag. Whilst she was searching through my bag, a French lady kept rudely interrupting our conversation and was basically asking to jump the queue for her bag to be searched as she had a flight to catch, don’t we all love!

Terminal view just past security check point
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After my case of embarrassment Jordan and I had a wander around the terminal. I needed some cash so I found an ATM and withdrew 40 notes, should keep me going for the day.
We then made our way down to the main departures level where the majority of shops and eateries are located. I splashed out and went the whole hog and bought a Cheese and Ham croissant from EAT which was actually rather nice, one to remember for next time. Then we had about half an hour until our gate would be announced on screen so we did some more wandering around.

Terminal views
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We had figured that we would be departing from either the B gates or remote stand as there were no stands free on the main building capable of handling a 747.

Date: 26/07/2010
Route: LHR-NCL
Flight: BA1326
Aircraft: Boeing 747-400 (3rd flight on Boeing 747-400 and 1st flight on this aircraft)
Reg: G-CIVI
Seat: 46K
Scheduled Departure Time: 10:00
Actual Departure Time: 10:26
Scheduled Arrival Time: 11:10
Actual Arrival Time: 11:11


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G-CIVI is one of 50 Boeing 747-400 in the BA fleet as was delivered brand new to the airline in May 1996.

Departure Screens
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A glance at the departure screens revealed that A4 would be our designated departure gate today, a bussing gate located on the North side of the building. When were got there, there were a few people milling around, a small sign was there that said “Please do not go to gate until your flight shows as boarding” A lot of people had ignored this messaged and proceeded down the escalator to the gate, we then decided to be rebels and do the same.

View from gate entrance
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Literally about a minute after getting downstairs, a voice came over the speakers and announced boarding. He told us not to be alarmed when we arrived at the aircraft, as the flight WAS indeed scheduled to be a 747. We piled onto the bus and soon were traversing length and breath of the T5 building before diving underground to the gutter of T5

Bus Journey
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We emerged a short while later at the C gates, currently being built, mostly for A380 I believe. Just 2 747’s were visible right at the far end of the building, I had thought BA would be putting us on one of their oneworld logo jets, as this event was bound to get some publicity and this would only add free advertising for BA and oneworld. This thought had become true, as we edged closer I saw our aircraft, G-CIVI; a 14 year old jumbo and one of 7 BA 747’s painted in the oneworld alliance scheme, hiding behind another 747.

Our ride hiding behind another 747
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We pulled up along side the jumbo and were then let out of the bus to board. I’m normally used to a big scrum when leaving by bus to board, but there was none of that today and it was nice to board such a big aircraft by stairs for a change. Standing at the bottom of the stairs was one of the crew directing us up the stairs, not sure where else we might have wanted to go? Once at the top there were 2 members of the crew checking boarding passes and directing us passengers. I was directed “over the other side and straight down, sir”. I passed through the 2nd Club World cabin, which did look very nice, through World Traveller Plus, then finally to World Traveller, where my seat, 46K was located, roughly in the middle of the rear part of the cabin. Jordan was sitting 7 rows ahead of me in the bulkhead row.

Club World cabin
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First impressions were good; seats looked comfortable and were laid out with Pillows, Blankets, and headsets, not quite what I was expecting for a domestic flight. The seats were indeed very comfortable and I liked the way the headrests folded down each side, I could see them being comfortable for sleeping on a long haul. However, legroom was nothing to write home about. I found it a bit cramped myself and I’m not exactly the tallest person in the world, even more so when I had a seatmate turn up. I certainly wouldn’t fancy flying to say LAX or HKG in BA Y, especially if someone was seated next to me. I remember from flying on VS the legroom was better, not miles more room but definitely less cramped.

Legroom shot
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The flight soon filled and was very busy, but there were quite a few seats free in the middle section, cabin crew actively asked people to more for a bit more comfort and space. The lady seated on the aisle in my row moved to the row behind and the man sitting next to me, even when asked by the crew to move, did so reluctantly. I don’t think he quite understood. He eventually did move to the aisle, freeing up a bit more space for us both.

Window view – C gates under construction
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Once everyone was onboard we had an announcement from the captain explaining the reason we were flying a 747 today and he then wished Newcastle Airport a happy birthday. Flight routing was also explained; Flying north over Northampton, Nottingham and Leeds before flying over the Pennines then we would make a right turn and fly out over the North Sea before turning back for a Westerly approach into Newcastle. Flight time was advised as 50 minutes, but he hoped some ATC co-operation might bring that down. Push back from stand 558 was at 10:00 and the crew performed a manual safety demo, they did look a bit unsure at times.

Various scenes of LHR
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After a 25 minute taxi along the side of 27R and snaking in and out for the various Terminal 2A building works happening around the T1 area we taxied onto the 27R and the 4 Rollers under the wing sprung into full power, rocketing us down the runway and we were soon in the air.

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The crew then announced that they would be shortly passing through the cabin with a bar service. Crew were pleasant and friendly but we didn’t see too much of them on this short flight.

My window was very scratched so photos were not that great.

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With the service started it was time to crack out the iPod and get some tuneage on the go. We had full use of the IFE system, bar the moving map, which was “Unavailable” but there was no point in settling down to watch some TV on such a short flight. I did however have a play around with the system, I found it easy to navigate and I liked the use of the touch screen, as well as having the option of controls in the armrest. A wide range of TV and Films were on offer, a good selection too.

IFE screen
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Seeing as the bar service was free, not a common standard on some airlines these days, I took advantage and went for a cold Heineken, accompanied of course by the standard bag of BA rabbit food, sorry, ‘Savoury Cocktail Assortment’, which were alright, filled a hole as they say. I didn’t eat them all but I save them for later.

Living the dream
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No sooner than I had a few swigs of my Heineken, I could feel us descending and the crew quickly did a run collecting rubbish and passengers were asked to return to their seats in preparation for landing. There was cloud cover for the whole flight until we started descending over the North East coast of England. After turning over the North Sea we were now on finals for Newcastle International.

Northumberland countryside
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The Town of Blyth
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The Town of Cramlington
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User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 614 posts, RR: 8
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Continued... It cut off.

Touchdown!
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Just a few minutes later we had well and truly landed on the 2329m RWY25. Landing was bumpy to say the least with lots of heavy breaking. Later on, when I met with fellow member airbuseric, he said that we came in quite high and he thought we would do a go around. When we finally had slowed and exited the runway a sparse round of applause started and fizzled out quite rapidly, followed by a welcome announcement; “Ladies and Gentleman, welcome to Newcastle, home to the Angel of the North”

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Taxi to the terminal was, err, well just a few hundred metres and in this time, the crew wished the airport a very happy birthday, also the usual thanked us for flying BA. We would be leaving the aircraft by door 2L by stairs. On leaving the aircraft we were given our farewells by a few of the crew and also the Captain/FO.


As Newcastle is such a small airport, it does not cater for 747’s we were parked at the end of the main pier across 2 stands. Walking away from the aircraft you really notice its size, it was a great feeling leaving such a large aircraft at such a small airport.

Bye!
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Jordan and I also got snapped leaving the aircraft, thanks to bmiflyer.

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Once inside we followed the corridor through the pier, which was clearly signposted and we caught sight of the Emirates 77W just arriving, again, another special flight laid on for the Airport’s birthday as NCL is usually served by EK A330’s. Another special was KLM’s PH-BXA, their 737 retro jet, this was hiding the other side of the pier so unfortunately I couldn’t get a photo of it.

EK arriving
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A few more turns of the corridor and we were in the baggage reclaim area, after passing through here, we exited into the arrivals area, which was buzzing with people. Jordan’s mum was there as she would be flying back to London with him so we said a quick hello before they went outside for a smoke. Then I met with airbuseric for a short chat, as he was also flying down to London onboard the 747. Then BA319-131 came and spoke with Eric before they both headed off into departures. Lukeyboy95 also shared a quick chat with me, again, before dashing off through to departures. Jordan and his mum appeared again so I wished them both a safe journey and that I would see them both the next day.

I was now all on my own… So I headed over to the viewing area set up today especially for the birthday celebrations to see my friends departing back to London on the 747.

Shots from the viewing area set up for todays celebration
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The next BA shuttle arriving – The usual Airbus
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Rotate!
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Some shots from my Plane Finder iPhone app, showing our route up to NCL and the return flight on her way back to London.



The next part of my journey would take me into Newcastle city centre via the Metro before taking the East Coast train service up to Edinburgh. The Metro took just just under 30 minutes to reach Newcastle Central station from the airport and I arrived with 10 minutes before my train would depart, the “13:51 East Coast service to Glasgow Central via Edinburgh Waverley”. I collected my pre-paid tickets from the machine, the ticket cost me £10, a great price.

Newcastle Central Station
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Once on platform 2 a delay of 5 minutes was shown on the screen. Journey time from Newcastle to Edinburgh was about 1 hour 30 minutes to travel the roughly 120 mile journey, which had some beautiful scenery and coastlines, just a shame the weather wasn’t too good.

My ride
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My seat
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The train was very busy and I was lucky to have an allocated seat (01A in coach E), the seats were really comfortable and free Wi-Fi is provided on all East Coast trains which I think is great. Legroom was more than enough, infact the when my table was folded down it was a bit too far away.

Legroom
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We had one stop on the journey, at Berwick-upon-Tweed where quite a few people left the train so those standing in the doorways now had places to sit.


Berwick-upon-Tweed
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Coastline
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Carriage view
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Departing Edinburgh
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When I arrived into Edinburgh, the weather was grey and overcast (standard), but quite warm. I had a few hours to kill so I have a wander around the city and grabbed a coffee.

Some photos of the beautiful city of Edinburgh – I love this place!

Scott Monument
Princes Street
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National Gallery of Scotland
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Edinburgh houses
The Royal Mile
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Looking down the Royal Mile
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Princes Street Gardens
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The Balmoral Hotel
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St. Andrews Square
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Royal Bank of Scotland
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Designer Shopping
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Back to the reporting now…

Soon I was feeling pretty tired and hungry, so I decided just to head to the airport now. I caught the bus and that took about 30 minutes, traffic was pretty bad at this time of day. When I arrived at the airport I had 2 hours until departure time. I headed over to the BA self service machines to check in. I punched in my booking reference and it decided it wanted me to insert the card I paid for the flight on, so I did just that and my booking came up on the easy to use machines. I had been allocated seat 5A but I wanted to sit further near the back. I selected 21A out of the possible 25 rows onboard the Embraer 190.

In past experiences at EDI, security check has taken ages with really long queues. I had already placed all my items into my bag to save time. When I headed upstairs, I was pleasantly surprised the security area had been given a makeover and extension. Nice colours were in use. Dark browns, black, white and the new must have, blue lighting. Also there were instructions hanging from above telling passengers what to do. “Only remove shoes if asked” “Place all small items into your bag”. Lots of lanes open and when I arrived there was only one other person in front of me. He was struggling a bit and faffing so I went round him and put all my bag and belt into the tray. No embarrassments caused this time!

New departure lounge at EDI
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BA shuttle about to head back to LHR
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Big windows and open space
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I had a wander about the terminal and had a nose through some of the shops. Next was to find something to eat. I was so hungry by now; I fancied something filling and could do with a nice cold beer as well. Wetherspoons was my answer. I plumped for Chicken Tikka Masalla along with a pint of Heineken. Curry was good, as was the beer.

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I sat down and relaxed for a bit with my iPod. At 18:00 gate 7 was shown as my departure gate for London City. I decided to head over and sit by the window.

Departure Gate
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Date: 26/07/2010
Route: EDI-LCY
Flight: BA8717 (operated by BA Cityflyer)
Aircraft: Embraer E190 (1st flight on E190 and 1st flight on this aircraft)
Reg: G-LCYJ
Seat: 21A
Scheduled Departure Time: 19:00
Actual Departure Time: 19:15
Scheduled Arrival Time: 20:20
Actual Arrival Time: 20:14


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BA Cityflyer have a fleet of 10 Embraer E-Jets; 6 E170’s and 4 E190’s with 1 E190 on order. These are all under 1 year old and replaced the old Arvo RJ100’s

Do328 heading back to LCY also, reversed using its own power!
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My ride
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Half an hour later, my aircraft landed and taxied over. Today would be my first time flying an Embraer aircraft and this particular bird was an Embraer 190, which was delivered to BA Cityflyer just 4 months ago, their first E190. After talking to friends who have flown the BA examples, they have had nothing but positives to say, great legroom, and comfortable seating and I must say they look real good in BA colours. Last time I flew this route was 7 months ago, when the old Avro RJ100’s were still in the fleet, with their 3-3 seating and tight legroom, they were not very comfortable to fly on.

Boarding was announced at 18:55, 5 minutes prior to scheduled departure time. I was welcomed onboard by one of the 2 members of cabin crew. All smiles here today, always a bonus!

Boarding
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I then passed through cabin to find my seat towards the rear of the aircraft. The first thing I noticed was how soft leather seats were. The seats had very good legroom and also were quite wide. When I reclined my seat it was very squeaky, not something I would associate with such a new aircraft. Within 5 minutes of boarding, everyone was onboard and the doors closed. I counted just 30 passengers on the flight tonight, majority of them were in smart garb so obviously flying on business.

Cabin view
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Legroom – pleasantly surprised
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Just before pushback the captain came on and said a few words. He said that Tracey and Stacey would be looking after us in flight, he got a bit tongue tied saying that! Flight time was announced as 1 hour 5 minutes. A manual safety demo was performed, via a pre-recorded announcement whilst we taxied to the runway.

Takeoff
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Takeoff was from RWY24 and after a fairly short run we were in the air and soon began to climb through the think cloud layer. Fifteen minutes later, Tracey and Stacey announced they would be passing through the cabin with complimentary drinks and either a sweet or savoury snack.

Cool rainbow effect
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Cabin view
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A short while later, it was my turn to be serviced by the lovely Stacey who kindly sorted me out with a Heineken and passed the basket of snacks over for me to choose something. I chose a cookie; I didn’t like anything else on offer.

After that I just kicked back and relaxed with Above & Beyond’s Anjunabeats Volume 8 on the iPod.

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Most of the flight we were flying just above the clouds and at times we did get a few bumps.

One for Lukeyboy95


Soon I could feel us descending. Nothing to see except just white. My first glimpse of land came over Thurrock when the Dartford river crossing became visible below me through the haze of the cloud cover. Approach was made from the east which gave me views over South East London.

South East London – Plumstead, Woolwich and high security Belmarsh prison visible
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Over the Thames
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A mere 6 minutes after seeing the ground we made a pretty bumpy landing on RWY28 and taxied over to our parking position. Tracey or Stacey welcomed us to London and thanked us for flying with them.

”Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to London City airport”
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Then our captain told us we had to leave our engines running on the ground for 3 minutes, as it was a requirement for the last flight of the day. We were requested to keep seatbelts fastened until the engines were switched off.

Waiting to leave…
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With only 30 passengers onboard, disembarking was quick, and was only a short distance to walk from the aircraft to the terminal building. I had roughly 50 minutes to make my way from London City to Waterloo station to catch my train home, which could easily be done, providing no long waits for DLR or Underground.

It only took me minutes to exit the airport and make my way to the DLR station, which is handily connected to the terminal building. From here I took the DLR a few stops to Canning Town, where I changed for the Jubilee Line Underground which takes just 17 minutes to reach Waterloo. This would give me roughly 10 minutes at Waterloo before my train would depart. Not a disaster if I missed it, there are 4 trains per hour to my station; 2 stopping and 2 faster ones which only call at 2 stations before mine. I was aiming to get the faster service which leaves for Basingstoke at 12 and 42 minutes past the hour. Not much to report on the tube except it was fairly busy; I just shut myself off to the world with the trusty iPod.

I arrived at Waterloo station a few minutes past 9pm. Journey from leaving the aircraft to arriving at the station took 43 minutes, not bad at all!

Main concourse at London Waterloo, still fairly busy at this time of evening
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I checked the departure boards and the platform for my train had just been announced. After purchasing my ticket, I headed over to platform 12 to catch the 21:12 service to Basingstoke, which calls at Surbiton, Walton-on-Thames and finally, Weybridge, where I would get off 25 minutes later, before continuing on its way.

Finally reached the train up the platform
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London Eye
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All passengers had a long walk to our train; it was parked ahead of another one on the platform, meaning some latecomers had to run. Our guard tonight was a chirpy fella, he offered regular connection information along the route and told us if we missed this train from Waterloo in the future, we could catch a later train that would overtake our train if we were going to certain stations further along the route, then change back to our train at Woking – Great customer service.

Onboard
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I called my dad when I was on the train to let him know I was on my way home and he offered to pick me up from the station. The journey was the usual mundane one I was used to, as I travel this route quite a bit. My carriage on the train was very stuffy, air-con wasn't doing a very good job. I arrived into my stop on time at 21:35 and I arrived home at 5 minutes later. I was shattered.

I had a great day flying today and was a great to experience a 747 on a short domestic hop, well done BA and was good to get new aircraft type; the E190.

As usual BA didn’t disappoint, their service is always consistent from what I have experienced and I get the impression that their staff takes great pride in their jobs.

I was really impressed flying on the E190. For a small aircraft I found it bright, airy, and spacious. Seats were comfortable and legroom was great and it didn’t feel like I was flying on a regional jet. However I did think it would be a bit quieter inside the cabin.

Thanks for taking the time to read my report and as always, comments welcome.

Matt

Previous Reports:
Turkish Delight in Istanbul: LHR-IST
Losing my Vegas Virginity with Virgin Atlantic - LHR-LAX-LHR

[Edited 2010-07-31 09:25:01]

[Edited 2010-07-31 09:27:18]

[Edited 2010-07-31 09:28:14]

User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 14342 times:

Hi Matt

it's interesting to read also your experience. What a shame, that scratched window! But at least you got to fly the 74 again, which is always a pleasure. I must admit, I have also not too many flights logged on this type. It's mostly 777 what I'm doing lately on the longer flights.

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
Later on, when I met with fellow member airbuseric, he said that we came in quite high and he thought we would do a go around

Yeah, not exactly a go-around, but maybe a fly-by aka lowpass I was thinking off, since the event at NCL. It didn't happen though. Would' ve been a nice extra for you otherwise!

btw, nice to catch up again for a few minutes. No time to go into a good talk or drink, but I guess we'll make up for that some other day!

Regards
Eric

btw, next time take BA's ' Grolsch ' beer. Also from Holland. I like it better then that stuff what they call Heineken  



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User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2595 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 14311 times:

Nice report and photos. I was supposed to be on this flight and the EK NCL-DXB flight but unfortunately did not get my passport back in time to make the trip from the UAE, which was a bit of a bummer.

It was especially nice to see Blyth and Cramlington from a B747, since I lived in Cramlington between the ages of 9 and 13. It was good for seeing the traffic coming into NCL.

[Edited 2010-07-31 09:33:12]

User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 14173 times:

Hello Matt, a great and very interesting report from you this time! The pics were great as well!

Your flight on the BA 744 looked pretty nice actually, the service on those domestic runs seem pretty generous too. Though why didn't you chose to sit in WT+ instead, despite having to sit in a middle seat?
I really liked the pics you took when leaving the aircraft, they really showed how massive the 744 is, despite having been overtaken by the A380, haha.

Your ride on the East Coast train looked pretty nice, a bit cramped though. Really nice of them to offer free wi-fi internet, but I would guess that it must've been a bit slow since a lot of people use it when it's free? In Sweden you have to pay EUR 10 for wi-fi, and it very often it doesn't work. Luckily I get it for free 

Btw, why do you call your iPhone for "iPod"?

Thanks for sharing!
//Jonas



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User currently onlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1874 posts, RR: 41
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 14044 times:
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Hey Matt, nice going! Great job catching the 747, on such a unique flight. Glad you liked the Ejet too. Looks like a great day of flying!

Let me know when I can find you at or around AMS, we should grab a beer sometimes!

Regards, Martijn



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User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 614 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13936 times:

Thanks for reading Eric!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
btw, nice to catch up again for a few minutes. No time to go into a good talk or drink, but I guess we'll make up for that some other day!

I know, was great to catch up for a little bit, but next time hopefully it will be longer.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
btw, next time take BA's ' Grolsch ' beer. Also from Holland. I like it better then that stuff what they call Heineken

I've not had Grolsh for a long time, not many places sell it over here, unfortunatly.  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Hello Matt, a great and very interesting report from you this time! The pics were great as well!

Thanks Jonas and thanks for reading.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
hough why didn't you chose to sit in WT+ instead, despite having to sit in a middle seat?

Im not a fan of sitting in the middle section, I tend sick when not near a window, happend when I flew home from SFO, It wasn't very nice.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Your ride on the East Coast train looked pretty nice, a bit cramped though.

It was not too bad. The seats have high backs so can make it feel quite claustraphobic

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Really nice of them to offer free wi-fi internet, but I would guess that it must've been a bit slow since a lot of people use it when it's free?

The Wi-Fi speed was more than good enough, faster than my standard connection via GPRS. Not much 3G coverage on the way.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Btw, why do you call your iPhone for "iPod"?

I guess because I was using it for music.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 5):
Let me know when I can find you at or around AMS, we should grab a beer sometimes!

Regards, Martijn

Thanks for reading Martijn. I see you took a ride on the EJet a few weeks back. I shall hold you to that. A shame as I have been at AMS 2 times recently, in June and a few weeks back. Next time I shall be sure to let you know, and if you're ever in London again, gimme a shout!

Matt


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13863 times:
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Hi Matt,

Nice summary of the mornings flight - liked your trip back too!

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
Seat: 46K

- I had 44K

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
The flight soon filled and was very busy, but there were quite a few seats free in the middle section, cabin crew actively asked people to more for a bit more comfort and space. The lady seated on the aisle in my row moved to the row behind and the man sitting next to me, even when asked by the crew to move, did so reluctantly. I don’t think he quite understood. He eventually did move to the aisle, freeing up a bit more space for us both.

- The chap in our aisle moved to the middle aisle hoiwever the chap next to me stayed put in the middle, even after a hint from the FA, muppet!

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
The next BA shuttle arriving – The usual Airbus

- Yep, my ride home, G-EUUU, 1st flight on that machine for me - was the same for our jumbo.

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
In past experiences at EDI, security check has taken ages with really long queues

- I flew out of there on Friday, queues were huge and this for a 10am flight!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineBA174 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 760 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13794 times:

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
We had full use of the IFE system, bar the moving map, which was “Unavailable” but there was no point in settling down to watch some TV on such a short flight. I did however have a play around with the system, I found it easy to navigate and I liked the use of the touch screen, as well as having the option of controls in the armrest. A wide range of TV and Films were on offer, a good selection too.

I was onboard in club world and no IFE screens worked in the whole cabin. Over hearing crew talking they said something along the lines of the IFE was supose to be off however a fault with the system meant that various seats had it activated but it was not "officially" on hence the manual demo playing IFE on routes requires permission and I doubt NCL has it. The crew seemed fantastic and doing a service which the worldwide fleet have probably never done before in 50 mins must have been hard for them.


User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1273 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13296 times:
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It's great to see so many different perspectives from this one flight. Great report.

User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4636 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 12829 times:

Nice report, Matt!

Looks like a nice day out and about 



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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12661 times:

Wow, Matt what a fab report! Some cracking pictures as well - I love the E Jet shots. 

I've held off doing mine for now, but will get round to it eventually.


It looks like you had a fantastic day all round, especially the EDI trip as well. Oh and wow look at all the buses on Princes Street!! Thankfully the trams are on the way!



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User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 12380 times:

Very well written report Matt, love the pictures.

Wish I had come along for the flight  

I had my first E190 flight just before yours and could not belive how nice and spacious the aircraft is compared to the 32x series im used to flying.

(ps, hopefully get you flying BA long haul at some point   )


User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 614 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12295 times:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 7):
Nice summary of the mornings flight - liked your trip back too!

Thanks Mark, was also nice to put a face to the name.

Quoting BA174 (Reply 8):
The crew seemed fantastic and doing a service which the worldwide fleet have probably never done before in 50 mins must have been hard for them.

No, good on them though, certainly something different.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 9):
It's great to see so many different perspectives from this one flight. Great report.

Thanks very much.

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 10):
Nice report, Matt!

Looks like a nice day out and about

Sure was Trent. Shame you were unable to make it.

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 11):
Wow, Matt what a fab report! Some cracking pictures as well - I love the E Jet shots

Thanks Lee. Looking forward to reading yours.

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 11):
It looks like you had a fantastic day all round, especially the EDI trip as well. Oh and wow look at all the buses on Princes Street!! Thankfully the trams are on the way!

Sure was. There was buses everywhere. I did see a tram on display at Princes Street.

Quoting LHR380 (Reply 12):
Very well written report Matt, love the pictures.

Thanks Dan.

Quoting LHR380 (Reply 12):
(ps, hopefully get you flying BA long haul at some point )

Maybe... I can't seem to drag myself away from Virgin! Would like to try your new 77W product when it comes.

Matt


User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 12151 times:

Hi Matt,

Fantastic report and great pictures - you really packed a lot of action into that day. I found it a great idea of BA to fly a 747 to NCL to celebrate the airport's birthday and it was nice that other airlines (EK, KL) followed the example and flew in some special planes as well. Good to see that quite some A.Netters took the opportunity to fly a 747 on a domestic service.

I also liked your pictures of the train ride and of Edinburgh. I have visited the city last year and I have to agree that it is a really unique place.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11980 times:

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 13):
Maybe... I can't seem to drag myself away from Virgin! Would like to try your new 77W product when it comes.

Will help anyway I can mate to get you flying BA  


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11190 times:

Hi Matt!

Very very very very very (sorry, I'm prone to overdoing) nice report about a special flight and day up northeast! Very familiar description around Newcastle and the train ride to Edinburgh since I did the same thing just a couple of weeks ago. I had no idea East Coast trains offered free wifi, had I known I think that's what I'd been doing for most of my ride instead of staring at the scenery like I did. Not that I mind the scenery, it was great!


User currently offlineTwoSevenRight From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 28 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10644 times:

Very interesting TR Matt


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User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 614 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9879 times:

Another round of the replies...

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 14):
Fantastic report and great pictures - you really packed a lot of action into that day.

Thanks Christoph, I certainly did, add the heat and humidity to it all and I was totally shattered by the end of the day!

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 14):
I also liked your pictures of the train ride and of Edinburgh. I have visited the city last year and I have to agree that it is a really unique place.

Its a great place, My first time visiting in the summer months, last time I was there, it was covered in snow and I was on a night out with an early departure the next day so didn't actually see much of the city then.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 16):
Very very very very very (sorry, I'm prone to overdoing) nice report about a special flight and day up northeast! Very familiar description around Newcastle and the train ride to Edinburgh since I did the same thing just a couple of weeks ago. I had no idea East Coast trains offered free wifi, had I known I think that's what I'd been doing for most of my ride instead of staring at the scenery like I did. Not that I mind the scenery, it was great!

Thanks FF! The secnery is lovely, although just a shame the weather was not on my side that day as I am sure it would have been a much nicer journey. One to remember for next time on the free WiFi front.

Quoting TwoSevenRight (Reply 17):
Very interesting TR Matt

Thanks 27!

Matt


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6808 posts, RR: 77
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9861 times:

Hi Matt,

very enjoyable report about that special event and your first E190 flight. You posted many great pictures, but I particularly like the ones from Edinburgh.

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
He told us not to be alarmed when we arrived at the aircraft, as the flight WAS indeed scheduled to be a 747.

That's funny!

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
Just 2 747’s were visible right at the far end of the building, I had thought BA would be putting us on one of their oneworld logo jets, as this event was bound to get some publicity and this would only add free advertising for BA and oneworld. This thought had become true, as we edged closer I saw our aircraft, G-CIVI; a 14 year old jumbo and one of 7 BA 747’s painted in the oneworld alliance scheme, hiding behind another 747.

Very good decision by BA to pick the logo jet for that flight.

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 1):
I plumped for Chicken Tikka Masalla along with a pint of Heineken. Curry was good, as was the beer.

That looks very tasty...


PH



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User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 614 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9693 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
very enjoyable report about that special event and your first E190 flight. You posted many great pictures, but I particularly like the ones from Edinburgh.

Thanks PH, yes Edinburgh has so much wonderful sights to photograph.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
That looks very tasty...

Sure was, not the best in the world but I can never say no to a curry!

Matt


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27003 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9686 times:

Great report and loved the rotation shots from NCL. Great to get on the B744 for such a short trip. Also loved the return part. Keep meaning to go to Edinburgh its a lovely city, the curry at the airport looked mouth watering.

Thanks for the report

OA260


User currently offlinegr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9045 times:

Excellent TR buddy.....you have a great sense of narration...  

User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1092 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8545 times:

Oh lordy.... you've Duna it again Matt!

I think by far your most detailed and enjoyable report, featuring by far the most interesting city in by far the most fantastic country (for Edinburgh that is). You went against the grain with your route, which since your from London was a sensible idea...!

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
the captain explaining the reason we were flying a 747 today and he then wished Newcastle Airport a happy birthday.

I take it they were the same chirpy ones in my photo... very young too.

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
Living the dream

Absolutely. Nothing I would rather spend my money on than a long-haul flight and being served le bierre.

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
Later on, when I met with fellow member airbuseric, he said that we came in quite high and he thought we would do a go around.

I wonder if those pilots had to undergo any prior training/ simulator since they would be quite unused to landing on such a short runway on their normal rotations...

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
Lukeyboy95 also shared a quick chat with me, again, before dashing off through to departures

That I did - the whole airport was quite charged and frantic that day so I didn't want to get caught out. In the end I waited a good 15 minutes to board.

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
Lots of lanes open and when I arrived there was only one other person in front of me.

Very good pictures of Edinburgh Matt, glad your getting of Tourist Road a bit more (aka Royal Mile) and irking some other sites out... I am trying, with varying success, to do this a Londres.

Its in Edinburghs best interests to keep that security area smart. The last time I went through it was a very smooth experience. Less hassle in security, means more spend in the shops.

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
Wetherspoons was my answer.

A classy man! Nah, that Witheringspatula is a good option, and alot cheaper for a beer than most other airside places.

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
One for Lukeyboy95

Why of COURSE! You know my penchant for all things Deborah. Never mind a question and answer section... I wouldn't know where to start. I think it would be... I wont go there.

Quoting DunaA320 (Thread starter):
I arrived at Waterloo station a few minutes past 9pm. Journey from leaving the aircraft to arriving at the station took 43 minutes, not bad at all!

Its such a smoother ride from City. Like a nutter I achieved my aim of getting into London by service bus the other day and it took 2 hours which was funny... tedious.

Right Mate... good job and looking forward to hearing about the Portugal trip when I am in S.Africa...

Luke



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User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 614 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8367 times:

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 23):
Oh lordy.... you've Duna it again Matt!

Oh a cheekey pun!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 23):
I think by far your most detailed and enjoyable report, featuring by far the most interesting city in by far the most fantastic country (for Edinburgh that is). You went against the grain with your route, which since your from London was a sensible idea...!

Thanks alot Luke, I like to think I'm sensible.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 23):

Absolutely. Nothing I would rather spend my money on than a long-haul flight and being served le bierre.

... even on a 30 minute domestic!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 23):
Very good pictures of Edinburgh Matt, glad your getting of Tourist Road a bit more (aka Royal Mile) and irking some other sites out... I am trying, with varying success, to do this a Londres.

Thanks again, really nice sights to photograph.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 23):
A classy man! Nah, that Witheringspatula is a good option, and alot cheaper for a beer than most other airside places.

Yeh, I figured... stick to what you know best.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 23):
Right Mate... good job and looking forward to hearing about the Portugal trip when I am in S.Africa...

Have a good time matey... wasn't going to detail the Portugal trip, however, it seems there is some kind of demand!


25 FLIEGER67 : Hi, Matt, you know, I should do the Jumbo of the north. Well done, a real great story from a real great day of flying around. Originally I´ve also on
26 DunaA320 : Thanks Markus for your comments. It was a great day! Thats a shame. As were your pictures to me, such a great city! Matt
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