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AMS-MUC In Y With KL 733 (instead Of 73G) And E90  
User currently offlineChrisCruise From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 109 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7449 times:

Another TR from my side! This time covering my flights with KL to and from MUC. I hope you enjoy reading it!

Introduction:

In the beginning of May KLM advertised with its ‘affinity’ campaign which, in my opinion, is very similar to the ‘werelddealweken’ campaign which is held twice a year. Some selected destinations around the world are on offer. I narrowed my search to European destinations and found an offer I couldn’t refuse, Munich for EUR 99,-. The mix of aircraft used by KL offers you to choose from a variety of aircraft. I opted for the outbound leg for the 737-700 which I have never flown before and for the return leg my new favourite aircraft for short-haul flights, the Embraer 190. I settled the deal and found the e-tickets in my inbox within minutes.

Very pleased that I was going to fly a 737-700 I posted this on the airliners.net forum but was warned by Airbuseric that KL regularly changes a 737 serie with other 737 series in its fleet. Of course it wasn’t meant to be and six weeks prior to departure KL announced a change of aircraft from a 737-700 to a -300 series. Although a little disappointed I was still looking forward to this trip.

The last thing I had to do was to book a hotel. The website booking.com offered some very nice options but I couldn’t decide and waited too long resulting in some price increases. In the end I booked a nice looking design hotel in the nearby city of Erding (known for the famous Erdinger white beer).

On July 16 at 14:15, exactly 30 hours before departure, I checked in online and the whole process was absolutely flawless. I was even allowed to check in for the return flight a day after the outbound flight. On schiphol.nl I checked which aircraft would operate my flight. The website mentioned it would be PH-BTI (Niels Bohr) which was also a little disappointing having flown on the aircraft before in August 2008 from FCO to AMS. Luckily for me another aircraft change took place and PH-BDO would operate the AMS-MUC leg which would mean a new aircraft to my log.

Date: July 17, 2010

Route: AMS-MUC

Flight: KL 1801

Aircraft: Boeing 737-306

Registration: PH-BDO (Jacob van Heemskerck) delivered new to KL in December 1988

Seat: 22F (window)

After arriving by train from Rotterdam, about 1,5 hours before departure time, I went to the check-in kiosks of KL and printed both my boarding passes. I always prefer such an example than a printed A4 boarding pass. I checked if there were empty seats available but all seats were taken, so a full ride was expected. Security was a breeze but a very strict female security confiscated my hair gel because it contained 50ml than allowed. After that I went directly to the gate. The flight would leave from gate D74 which was a long walk.

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FIDS

I walked to the end of the D-pier which gives you great views on passing aircrafts. I was not even there standing for a minute and I saw my plane coming in from Arlanda, Stockholm.

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After the aircraft parked at the gate one of the tires of the front landing gear was being changed.

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Boarding started on-time and I was among the first entering the aircraft. I was friendly greeted at the door by the male purser and the female flight attendant. I walked to the back of the aircraft and after greeting the male flight attendant at the back I took my seat. The legroom on the KL B733 was very tight as I experienced before during my OSL-AMS flight.

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The middle seat was taken by a large German guy making the it even more uncomfortable. Scheduled departure was at 20:15 but five passengers did not show up but their luggage was already on board. The ground handlers removed the luggage resulting in a 15 minute delay.

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The luggage taken off again

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Captain Dinkelberg introduced himself and apologized for the delay. He explained the flight would take 1h09 and after departure from the Aalsmeerbaan (18C) the routing would be over Nijmegen – Cologne – Dusseldorf – Frankfurt and then onwards to Munich.

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On our way to the active runway

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Hey, you are the one that should operate the flight and was the reason I booked this trip.

During take-off the plane was sweeping from left to right over the runway as there were strong winds. As we fly more south-east views are getting less due to more clouds.

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Not long after take-off service is started. It takes a while before the crew reaches row 22 and I’m offered a bag of sweet or salty cookies. I opted for the sweet option that contained chocolate chip cookies and take a beer with it.

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Beer and chocolate chip cookies, strange choice Chris!

To be honest I’m not very charmed by the new service concept but it is more in line SkyTeam members AZ and AF.

At 21:19 descend started and the captain announced that we were 130 miles out.

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There were a lot of thunderstorms in the area and the captain promised to fly around them when possible but turbulence was expected anyway. Landing would be in a westerly direction meaning a short taxi to the gate.

During descend there was not too much turbulence but it rained very hard judging on the reflection of the raindrops in the landing lights. After landing we were at gate 15 in no time as promised.

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After saying goodbye to the crew I entered the terminal and took a last picture of my ride.

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It was a very short walk to the exit and I was at the taxi stand within two minutes after disembarkation.

The ride to Hotel Stocker in Erding took too long as the driver was not able to find the street. After finally arriving at the hotel I picked up the key to the room from the restaurant next door as reception is only open until 22:00. The room is very nice and spacious but very warm as the room is not air conditioned. Opening the windows brings some welcomed fresh air but the noise of passing cars on the cobblestones is that loud that I have to close the window to get some sleep. The next day I wake up and after an excellent breakfast I explore the nice city of Erding. Let me now share some impressions of the city with you.

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Hotel room

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And now from a different angle

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It seems they have more beergartens than inhabitants.

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Date: July 18, 2010

Route: MUC-AMS

Flight: KL 1794

Aircraft: Embraer 190

Registration: PH-EZ (delivered new to KL in June 2009)

Seat: 25A (window)

After a 40 minute busride from Erding to the airport I head directly for security as I already printed my boarding pass at AMS the day before. The airport looks spacious and security is very efficient.

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Within 5 minutes after entering the terminal I’m through security and head towards gate D15, the same gate where I arrived the day before.

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I’m a little surprised by the lack of space and seats around the gate area. Although the flight is operated by the relatively small Embraer 190 the gate area is crowded so I imagine how it looks like with a 738. Nothing to complain about the views from the gate area on the airplanes leaving the runway. Around 11:10, 1h05 before scheduled departure, I see the scheduled the PH-EZE leaving the runway and taxiing to the gate where it arrives 2 minutes later.

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I watch the passengers disembarking and it looked like a full flight to me on this Sunday morning. Around 11:19 three cleaners enter the plane and it takes them 10 minutes to finish the job. Some 10-15 minutes before boarding time the gate agent arrives and 10 minutes later boarding starts.

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A friendly welcome from the female flight attendant at the door and after that I walk down the alley to the second last row. At the back another female flight attendant welcomes me with a warm smile. The airplane filled up quickly and after everybody was onboard four seats remained empty and luckily one of them is 25B.

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Captain Kappert announces an early departure. Take-off will be in a westerly direction and after that a right turn to head northwest and fly over Münster to AMS. He explains we will enter the Dutch airspace over Twente and then onwards to Zwolle and Lelystad for a Polderbaan arrival. The captain tells us there are some rain showers in the area but no turbulence is expected. The flight time is announced as 1h10 minutes.

PH-EZE is pushed back at 12:09 and on its way to the active runway followed by an A330 of US airways.

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As it is not very busy at MUC at this hour we are number one for departure and after a landing A320 of LH we are on our way to AMS.

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Take-off is at 12:23 and powerful and when climbing into the air we are probably being photographed by these spotters.

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Soon after take-off the flight attendants start their service. Service today is excellent and I’m being offered chocolate chip cookies with a coffee and a coke by the extremely friendly flight attendant.

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After a rather uneventful flight descend is started at 13:05. On our approach we fly over Amsterdam port facilities. I am usually sitting on the other side of the aircraft so this offers me some new views on a Polderbaan approach.

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At 13:30 the E90 touches the runway and it is a 10 minute taxi to our gate.

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Conclusion:
Another great trip on KL. Really enjoyed flying KL again but was a little disappointed by the equipment change. It has not been the first time this year that the aircraft I was looking forward to fly was being replaced. The new service concept with the replacement of sandwiches by cookies or a salty snack is in my opinion a step backwards. Crew was great as ever especially on the Cityhopper operated flight.

MUC was a very nice airport and I enjoyed my little self guided tour around Erding!

Thanks for reading! Any feedback/comments are always welcomed!

Adios,

Christian

[Edited 2010-08-03 15:42:45]


Flown:319, 320, 321, 343, 388, 733, 738, 742, 744, 752, 763, 764, 772, 77W, CR7, CR9, DC9-31, E70, E90, F70, F100, MD11
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User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1008 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7389 times:

Flew this route two weeks ago - scheduled for a 733, a 734, PH-BDT shows up.
On the return, NUE-AMS, a F100 replaced the scheduled F70 despite a load of ~45 people. No rhyme or reason as far as I can tell!


User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7346 times:

Thankyou for the report. The Embraer 190 is such a nice look aircraft especially in the KLM livery. Serving cookies as a snack is indeed a little strange.

Tk747


User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7206 times:

Very nice TR.

But what is with the NW flight number on your return flight?  



Getting There is Half the Fun!
User currently offlineChrisCruise From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6411 times:

Hi all,

Thanks for reading and the comments!

Quoting FlyAA757 (Reply 1):
Flew this route two weeks ago - scheduled for a 733, a 734, PH-BDT shows up.
On the return, NUE-AMS, a F100 replaced the scheduled F70 despite a load of ~45 people. No rhyme or reason as far as I can tell!

They change equipment a lot! This weekend I was off to LPL and on the return flight the F70 was being replaced by a F100. However, on this flight the equipment change was understandable as the load was more than a F70 can accomodate.

Quoting tk747 (Reply 2):
The Embraer 190 is such a nice look aircraft especially in the KLM livery. Serving cookies as a snack is indeed a little strange.

Absolutely gorgeous in KL livery, but it is an attractive aircraft on its own. The cookies I picked myself as I was unsure about the taste of the salty snacks. I saved the cookies for later.

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 3):
But what is with the NW flight number on your return flight?

Haha, I did not even notice! Times are catching up!

Adios,

Christian



Flown:319, 320, 321, 343, 388, 733, 738, 742, 744, 752, 763, 764, 772, 77W, CR7, CR9, DC9-31, E70, E90, F70, F100, MD11
User currently offlineHAM From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 287 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6319 times:

Nice report, too bad for the equipment change! I especially like the Amsterdam harbor approach, even though it means the long taxi from the Polderbaan.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
The legroom on the KL B733 was very tight

Check out www.seatguru.com next time, it tells you which rows are "C" class and there's about 2 inches more leg room up front. Actual C class normally doesn't use up all these rows.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
Crew was great as ever especially on the Cityhopper operated flight.

KL crew are my favourite, they're always nice and efficient.


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6255 times:

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
Captain Kappert

Are you sure it was not Capt. Kappel   ?

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
opted for the outbound leg for the 737-700 which I have never flown before

I get to fly the 737-700 for the second time on sept 2 (EDI-AMS), but to be honest, the 737 and a320 are starting to bore me. Nice aircraft for sure... but dime in a dozen. Good thing is I get the F70 (assuming no equipment change) for AMS-EDI. Love those Dutch jets! The E jets are also very nice for sure, love them too!

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
The new service concept with the replacement of sandwiches by cookies or a salty snack is in my opinion a step backwards.

Indeed, that sucks. I actually liked the KL sandwiches!



L1011,733,734,73G,738,743,744,752,763,772,77W,DC855,DC863,DC930,DC950,MD11,MD88,306,319,320,321,343,346,ARJ85,CR7,E195
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6169 times:

Hi Chris,

very nice report again on KLM's European services. We don't read too much about them here, so it's nice to see an update.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
Very pleased that I was going to fly a 737-700 I posted this on the airliners.net forum but was warned by Airbuseric that KL regularly changes a 737 serie with other 737 series in its fleet.

Yep, the flexibilty of the Dutch. That's why 'we' (or KLM here in particular) are succesful in the world. Flexibility in your B737 fleet, is a good way to switch on demand, and make money everywhere.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
The legroom on the KL B733 was very tight

Also my impression. Definitely the worst plane to catch when flying KLM.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
I opted for the sweet option that contained chocolate chip cookies and take a beer with it.

Oh no, Heineken    Any other choices available here?

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
Hotel room

Looks clean, modern, but very, very cramped/small?

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
Service today is excellent and I’m being offered chocolate chip cookies with a coffee and a coke

Still I prefer a sandwich as you'll get on LH. This KLM flight was even around lunchtime.  

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5953 times:

Hi Chris,

Nice little report, I especially like the Schiphol approach pictures with the great sunny summer weather outside! Congrats for scoring another E-jet, those indeed are great little planes.

KLM seems to be offering some nice fares even at AMS with these specials, very good as they are often accused of charging Dutch passengers a premium on most flights, but then again that is how regular hub and spoke -airlines work anyway.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
The last thing I had to do was to book a hotel. The website booking.com offered some very nice options but I couldn’t decide and waited too long resulting in some price increases. In the end I booked a nice looking design hotel in the nearby city of Erding (known for the famous Erdinger white beer).

Had you wanted to stay at the airport you at least used to be able to get the Airport Marriott for around 50 per night through Priceline - not a bad deal and with your late arrival it would've been rather comfortable I guess.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
Arlanda, Stockholm.

Err, Arlanda is actually not located within the city of Stockholm, it is around 40 kilometers away from the city center in the Sigtuna Municipality. But you probably knew that already.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
The room is very nice and spacious but very warm as the room is not air conditioned.

Doesn't look too spacious to me from the pictures!

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
It seems they have more beergartens than inhabitants.

Hey, if Germans take their beer seriously, then Bavarians take it dead-seriously!  


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5919 times:

Hi Christian,

nice report about your trip to MUC, good idea to post some pictures from Erding, too.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
On July 16 at 14:15, exactly 30 hours before departure, I checked in online and the whole process was absolutely flawless. I was even allowed to check in for the return flight a day after the outbound flight. On schiphol.nl I checked which aircraft would operate my flight. The website mentioned it would be PH-BTI (Niels Bohr) which was also a little disappointing having flown on the aircraft before in August 2008 from FCO to AMS. Luckily for me another aircraft change took place and PH-BDO would operate the AMS-MUC leg which would mean a new aircraft to my log.

Interesting, I have already had both of them between MUC and AMS.

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
Not long after take-off service is started. It takes a while before the crew reaches row 22 and I’m offered a bag of sweet or salty cookies. I opted for the sweet option that contained chocolate chip cookies and take a beer with it.

No more sandwiches?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
Hey, if Germans take their beer seriously, then Bavarians take it dead-seriously!

  


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineBZNPilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2006, 262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5832 times:

Hi Chris,

Thanks for posting this great report. The text and the photos are all excellent. Shame they changed your 73G to a 733. Personally, I would be happy with this change because I seem to ride more often on nextgen 737s...and therefore I am always happy to be on an "old school" 733/4/5, especially since they are becoming less common all the time (at least in the States). So it's all relative. But I hope you can catch the 73G next time. Also, glad you had a nice time in Erding. Looks like my kind of town with all that good Hefeweizen! Thanks again for sharing your experiences.

Best regards,
BZNPilot


User currently offlineChrisCruise From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5761 times:

Hi everybody,

Thanks for all the comments!

Quoting HAM (Reply 5):
Nice report, too bad for the equipment change! I especially like the Amsterdam harbor approach, even though it means the long taxi from the Polderbaan.

I love that approach! ALways nice to see some big ships passing under you !

Quoting HAM (Reply 5):
Check out www.seatguru.com next time, it tells you which rows are "C" class and there's about 2 inches more leg room up front. Actual C class normally doesn't use up all these rows.

Thanks, great tip! I regularly use this website but did not realize that there is a difference between the Y seats upfront and in the back!

Quoting HAM (Reply 5):
KL crew are my favourite, they're always nice and efficient.

From all crews I experienced so far they absolutely rate high on my list! But I never flew on asian carriers which are known for their excellent crews.

Quoting Kappel (Reply 6):
Are you sure it was not Capt. Kappel ?

Haha, it's all up to you to make it happen! You can still change your carreer.

Quoting Kappel (Reply 6):
I get to fly the 737-700 for the second time on sept 2 (EDI-AMS), but to be honest, the 737 and a320 are starting to bore me. Nice aircraft for sure... but dime in a dozen. Good thing is I get the F70 (assuming no equipment change) for AMS-EDI. Love those Dutch jets! The E jets are also very nice for sure, love them too!

I flew the F70 and F100 last weekend to LPL. Very generous seat pitch! TR will follow shortly.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Yep, the flexibilty of the Dutch. That's why 'we' (or KLM here in particular) are succesful in the world. Flexibility in your B737 fleet, is a good way to switch on demand, and make money everywhere.

True, but it can be absolutely frustrating when you book a flight for the equipment!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Also my impression. Definitely the worst plane to catch when flying KLM.

Absolutely agree!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Oh no, Heineken Any other choices available here?

To be honest I don't know! I don't know any better than that KL serves Heineken!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Still I prefer a sandwich as you'll get on LH. This KLM flight was even around lunchtime.

I don't understand why they replaced sandwiches with cookies/salty snacks on flights around lunch time!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
KLM seems to be offering some nice fares even at AMS with these specials, very good as they are often accused of charging Dutch passengers a premium on most flights

I noticed that KL offers more competitive fares now for departing from AMS. Very nice but I have to see how long it lasts when demand increases again.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
Had you wanted to stay at the airport you at least used to be able to get the Airport Marriott for around 50 per night through Priceline - not a bad deal and with your late arrival it would've been rather comfortable I guess.

I checked it before but do not find it very easy to use! I will try it again!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
No more sandwiches?

Nope, also two weeks after to LPL no sandwiches. However on both those legs I received both the sweet als salty option.

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 10):
Shame they changed your 73G to a 733. Personally, I would be happy with this change because I seem to ride more often on nextgen 737s...and therefore I am always happy to be on an "old school" 733/4/5, especially since they are becoming less common all the time (at least in the States).

I understand, but if you like me have never flew the 73G it is the other way around. Probably in five years time I will have the same like you!

Adios,

Christian



Flown:319, 320, 321, 343, 388, 733, 738, 742, 744, 752, 763, 764, 772, 77W, CR7, CR9, DC9-31, E70, E90, F70, F100, MD11
User currently offlineChrisCruise From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5498 times:

Hey FlyingFinn,

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
Err, Arlanda is actually not located within the city of Stockholm, it is around 40 kilometers away from the city center in the Sigtuna Municipality. But you probably knew that already.

You are right, but if almost all major airports are located kilometers/miles out of the city center. We should rename AMS into Haarlemmermeer International airport!

Adios,

Chris



Flown:319, 320, 321, 343, 388, 733, 738, 742, 744, 752, 763, 764, 772, 77W, CR7, CR9, DC9-31, E70, E90, F70, F100, MD11
User currently offlineDeltaHolland From Netherlands, joined Dec 2008, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5410 times:

Lovely trip report. How great that you got to fly for so cheap!

User currently offlineChrisCruise From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5241 times:

Hey Armand

Quoting DeltaHolland (Reply 13):
How great that you got to fly for so cheap!

Just keep watching the offers! One tip, Transavia is offering for this and next week everyday seats to one particular destination at sharply reduced prices. Last monday they offered Rotterdam (RTM) to Rome (FCO) for EUR 50,- for a return ticket with all taxes included.

So for those who are interested!

Adios,

Chris



Flown:319, 320, 321, 343, 388, 733, 738, 742, 744, 752, 763, 764, 772, 77W, CR7, CR9, DC9-31, E70, E90, F70, F100, MD11
User currently offlinerwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3077 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5231 times:

Quoting ChrisCruise (Thread starter):
The new service concept with the replacement of sandwiches by cookies or a salty snack is in my opinion a step backwards. Crew was great as ever especially on the Cityhopper operated flight.

I think it's dictated by time of day and length. I usually get the sandwiches on the AM flights to CPH, but after breakfast time it's only cookies/crackers. On the other hand, sandwiches are still provided on longer routes (for instance, Spain, Portugal, etc.). MUC is a fairly short flight.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5131 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5215 times:

Hey, Christian,

interesting story, nice pictures.

Always good to follow fellow travellers to well known place, not Erding at all, but MUC and AMS.

You´re hotel looks like a good choice.

KL is here on schedule also in less than three weeks, hopefully no equipment change at all.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineChrisCruise From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5102 times:

Hey all,

Thanks for the comments!

Quoting rwSEA (Reply 15):
I think it's dictated by time of day and length. I usually get the sandwiches on the AM flights to CPH, but after breakfast time it's only cookies/crackers. On the other hand, sandwiches are still provided on longer routes (for instance, Spain, Portugal, etc.). MUC is a fairly short flight.

This flight was around lunch time as well but no sandwich, I believe they have really skipped them!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 16):
interesting story, nice pictures.

Thanks Markus! Always nice when well respected members do enjoy your report.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 16):
KL is here on schedule also in less than three weeks, hopefully no equipment change at all.

I hope so too for you, lately I have experienced many equipment changes with KL.

Adios,

Christian



Flown:319, 320, 321, 343, 388, 733, 738, 742, 744, 752, 763, 764, 772, 77W, CR7, CR9, DC9-31, E70, E90, F70, F100, MD11
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