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EK:SYD-DXB-ZRH-BEG ZRH-DXB + TG, LX Meal Pics In C  
User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 23649 times:

After reading 100's (probably 1000's) of trip reports on this forum and enjoying every single one, I figure its now my turn to contribute. I originally wasn't going to write a report for this trip due to the shockingly bad quality of photos and also the fact that it was from November last year, however i'm sure someone out there will find enjoyment in it. The report will also feature pictures of Belgrade and Macedonia as well as some photos my dad took of meals on TG and LX Business class.

Background

This trip was a kind of reward for finishing second year of law school. I was to join my dad in Serbia and Macedonia to visit some family for 2 weeks. Unfortunately the day of the flight was the same day that my final exam was on, so I was soo exhausted from studying the entire night before, the exam on the day of the flight and the 3 hour drive to the airport X:D and couldn't really enjoy my first time on EK.

The tickets were purchased 2 weeks before the flight and an EK return ticket to Zurich + a JAT one way ticket to Belgrade worked out to be the cheapest option at $2200 AUD.

Departure Apt: Sydney (SYD)
Arrival Apt: Dubai (DXB)
Airline: Emirates
Flight #: EK 413
Date: November 19 2009
Aircraft: A380-800
Registration: A6-EDC
Flight Duration: 14 h 34 m
Scheduled Departure Time: 21:45
Scheduled Arrival Time: 05:30
Actual Departure Time: 22:08
Actual Arrival Time: 05:42 am (+1 Day)

I checked in for the flight online the night before which was very simple and quick to do on the Emirates website. This is the seen I encountered when I approached the Emirates check in desks.
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I was soo glad that I checked in online . There was no queue at all and the whole check in process for me took 3 minutes. The check in agent was very quick and said that the flight was completely full in all classes. After check in I went to buy some books for the plane and to get something to eat from the new food court. The food is pretty tasty for food served in an airport however ridiculously expensive.
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feeling tired with the look of hunger in my eyes   

After grabbing something to eat and saying hi to a friend from uni who was travelling to LAX it was time to clear security. The airport was really crowded so I knew the security and customs would take forever and it did.
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Crowded area in front of customs.
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What crew is this?

After clearing customs and walking through the massive duty free shop it was time to head to the gate. Sydney airport at this stage was still undergoing renovation so it wasn't really looking in great shape.
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EK crew doing some shopping.  
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4 international flights departing within 30 minutes of one another = massive crowding in Sydney airport and an inability to sit down anywhere.

The flight was delayed by about 25 minutes basically because it was full and boarding was taking forever. Upon entering the aircraft the crew who were looking absolutely stunning greeted me warmly by my name and directed me in the direction of my seat. I was originally seated in seat 54A (I think) but moved to another window seat towards the back of the plane so a family travelling travelling together could sit next to eachother.
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Original seat
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New seat,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFeDauM3TrM - cabin view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2b_c-AO8HU- cockpit announcement

I'm a little over 6 foot and as you can tell from the pictures leg room was pretty tight. I would say there was more room than QF A380 y seat but less than SQ A380 Y seat. Anyway the seat overall wasn't comfortable at all and in the end I couldn't fall asleep once the entire flight   
I was so thankful that EK have such a great IFE system otherwise 14 hours is a little too long on a plane, even for me. I was also sitting next to a very friendly British couple ( I always seem to sit next to Brits on planes and they are always friendly    ) travelling to BHX

From the beginning the crew serving my section of the flight gave the impression of not wanting to be here. For most of the flight they seemed to be uninterested, aloof and not friendly at all with the passengers. I think that tiredness may have contributed as a factor as they didn't really seem like they were rested.

Meal service commenced around 2 hours after take off, unfortunately I didn't take a picture and I don't really remember the main course options, but I selected Iranian Lamb with saffron rice (or something like that ), this came with a prawn salad, cheese and crackers and a chocolate desert. The prawn salad tasted nice and light and fresh and didn't have a strong smell or taste of seafood at all. The lamb I didn't really enjoy, i'm not a big lamb eater and was hopeing that Emirates would convert me, it didn't! hehe. The chocolate desert wasn't bad but was pretty forgettable (i've forgotten it). The worst part of the meal service however was the fact that the crew took forever to serve drinks. They didn't serve drinks before or with the meal but served them after everyone had finished. They also didn't really look at the passenger when serving and seemed to have problem with using the words please and thankyou. I'm probably being a little too critical as they really did seem to be tired and i'm sure if they were fully rested that they would have done a better job.

For the next ten hours or so, I watched some movies, chatted with my seat mates and had a nice conversation with one of the fa's while waiting to use the lav. He said that the crew generally dreaded operating the SYD-DXB sector, understandbly!. Around 2 hours prior to landing breakfast was served, I chose the mixed grill which was OK but I wasn't really hungry.
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The steak was tough but the beans were edible as was the broccoli.

Breakfast was cleared and we began our descent into DXB, the landing was smooth and the crew thanked me and wished me a pleasent stay in DXB as I deplaned. I had 3 hours to kill in DXB, as it was my first time, the hours flew by. I really enjoyed seeing all these interesting flight destinations on the departure boards and looking at the different types of people around the airport.

Departure Apt: Dubai (DXB)
Arrival Apt: Zurich (ZRH)
Airline: Emirates
Flight #: EK 87
Date: November 20 2009
Aircraft: B777-300 ER
Registration: N/A
Flight Duration: 6h 23m
Scheduled Departure Time: 08:45
Scheduled Arrival Time: 12:35
Actual Departure Time: 09:15
Actual Arrival Time: 12:38

I pretty much slept the entire duration of this flight only being woken up when the crew were serving meals. The load on the flight was pretty light (approx 60%) and there several spare seats around the cabin. I had 2 spare seats next to me so I was looking forward to stretching out for the duration of the flight but an older Swiss guy who was sitting in a middle row with each of the seats taken, asked if he could sit on my row so he had more room   . I suppose it was nice of him to ask so I said "sure" and he was very thankful.
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Seat before Swiss seat mate arrived

The seat on the b777-300 was so much more comfortable than the seat on the A380. It seemed wider and there must have been at least a few more inches of legroom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyZJRRvcsMo- cabin view

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Emirates' IFE is the best out there in my opinion.
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The crew on this flight were better than on the flight from SYD. I had a guy from bulgaria, who was very talkative and friendly and a girl from Australia who was OK. I didn't take pictures of the meal but they served a breakfast after take off, I had an omelette and it was the best omelette that i've had on a plane. Prior to arrival a Tandoori chicken wrap was served as well as a cookie, both were delicious. Drinks were again served after the meal, I don't know if this is the norm but I hated not having a drink as I was eating.
Landing into ZRH was very bumpy, there was thick fog over the airport and I didn't see the runway until impact
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtTJlhwqNIY- Landing video
Overall this flight was much more enojoyable than the earlier one. The seats were more comfortable, the food was great and the crew were much friendlier   . I now had 6 hours to kill until my flight with JU to BEG. I decided to catch the train and head into Zurich to buy some chocolate and get something to eat.
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Unfortunately my camera died, I was really looking forward to the flight with JAT so I was dissapointed at not being able to take any photos. Anyway some brief details on the flight. It was operated by a b737-300 and was delayed by 1 hour due to the aircraft leaving Belgrade late. The reason for this was that fog had shut the entire airport. Upon entering the plane I was first hit by a smell of mould mixed with cigarettes hehe. The crew were a little older, a little eccentric but very warm and friendly. They served a cheese, mayonaise and pickle sandwhich, which was absolutely delicious and 2 drink services, with soft drink and juices. The seat was also very comfortable, old style, with great legroom and soft padding. Prior to arrival into BEG the pilot announced that due to thick fog we may have to divert to SKP or TGD. We ended up landing in BEG, with a very firm landing, it seemed like we were coming in very fast. We were one of only 2 flights to have landed that evening, all the others were diverted and the fog was so thick that we were driving around the hotel in circles not being able to see it right in front of us, I have no idea how he landed . Overall I would love to fly JAT again and if i had a choice between flying JU BEG-DXB or EK BEG-DXB (If they ever fly this) I would choose JU.

It was now time to enjoy 2 days in Belgrade and 2 weeks in Macedonia (photos at the end of the report)

Departure Apt: Zurich (ZRH)
Arrival Apt: Dubai (DXB)
Airline: Emirates
Flight #: EK 86
Date: December 2 2009
Aircraft: A330-200
Registration: N/A
Flight Duration: 6 h 14 m
Scheduled Departure Time: 21:45
Scheduled Arrival Time: 06:45
Actual Departure Time: 22:29
Actual Arrival Time: 07:43 am (+1 Day)


I don't really remember anything about the check in for this flight, I just remember arriving at the airport way too early, grabbing something to eat and a beer before catching the train to the empty gate lounge.
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My dad checked in here for his LX flight to BKK
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Where I checked in
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KA crew
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Love seeing that HELLO bird everytime i'm in ZRH http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae91/jordanst747/emirates/ZRH-DXB/CopyofIMG_0437.jpg
Ate and grabbed a drink here.

Zurich Airport was pretty empty by this stage and most of the shops in this part of the terminal were closed and departure gates empty.
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Unfortunately I didn't get the registration.

The plane was delayed by 45 minutes due to "deicing" of the aircraft. Regular announcements were made at the gate by the gate agent and then an apology and explanation was given by our South African pilot. The crew again greeted me by name as I entered the aircraft and seemed very friendly. The plane looked a little dated compared to the b777-300er and A380, the interior was showing signs of wear and tear and the legroom was much tighter.
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I was seated in a middle row at the rear of the plane, with the middle seat remaining free. The IFE box was placed in a very leg room restricting place haha.
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The IFE system on board this plane was older and nowhere near as good as on the previous flights.
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The crew then distributed blankets and pillows before take off (or they were already there hehe)
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There was a guy seated a few rows ahead of me who has extremely intoxicated and was approached by the crew a few times telling him to calm down and be sure to remain seated for take off etc. He did however not obey orders and just before the aircraft was beginning its take off roll he stood up and began yelling at the crew to bring him a drink lol, anyway a male member of the crew came over to him and forcefully told him to remain seated and keep quite unless he wants to be taken off the plane by Swiss police. He wasn't heard from for the rest of the flight 

Again the crew serving my section were pretty poor, uninterested and unprofessional. The Spanish guy wasn't that bad but the Australian stewardess seemed like she wanted to be somewhere else. I was also right at the back of the plane and could pretty much hear the conversation which was going on between the crew, it was interesting to say the least .

Meal service started around 1.5 hours after take off and consisted of a light meal. I chose the chicken.
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The vegetables tasted fresh and weren't soggy, the chicken was nice and moist but the "orange cream " (i've never had that with chicken before) was way too sweet and overpowering, but the main meal overall was still pretty good. The desert was also very nice as was the seasonal salad. Again drinks were served after the meal. I was kind of expecting a snack before arrival into DXB but we only had another drinks service.
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The lav was kept clean throughout the flight but had no amenities like on other airlines.

Overall the flight, aside form the food, was pretty dissappointing. The seats were uncomfortable and the crew were significantly worse than on other carriers that i've flown long haul (SQ, TG, LX, TK, QF). EK also receives lots of positive reviews so I guess there service is pretty inconsistent. Also the male members of the crew seemed to be so much more friendly than the female members of crew on all of my flights with EK, I don't know whether or not this is the norm.

I also have some meal photos that my dad took flying C class with TG and LX SYD-BKK-ZRH. He said the food was fantastic on both flights (a little better on LX) as was the service (a little better on TG)

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TG Menu
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Drink service
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Starter of smoked duck, salmon, scallop and mixed salad.
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Main course of prawns and Nile perch
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Fruit and cheese
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Dessert of passionfruit cheesecake.
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Light snack of stir fried noodles, fruit and chocolates

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LX menu
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Starter of Thai style beef salad.
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Main course of braised beef cheek
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Dessert of mango with coconut sauce
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Breakfast omelette

Now for some non av photos. I had a great time in Belgrade, Macedonia and the rest of the region. I'd recomend it to anyone who hasn't been to Eastern Europe or the Balkans before.
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Skadarlija (city's old town)
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Knez Mihajlova
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Bridge to Novi Beograd
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Parliament of Serbia
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From the NATO bombing  http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae91/jordanst747/emirates/belgrade%20%20macedonia/IMG_0216.jpg
Typical food from the Balkan.

Macedonia
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Skopje Alexander The Great Airport
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Macedonians still feel a lot of YUGO nostalgia, and there are cafe's and shops dedicated to Tito etc.
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Pella
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Ohrid
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Kokino, the world's 4th oldest observatory after Angkor Wat.

Wow I didn't think I would write so much! Thanks everyone for reading, I hope you enjoyed it. Questions and comments welcome.

Just got Facebook if someone wants to add me feel free, just mention who you are
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I have a long list of trip reports to write the next one will be 3K BKK-SIN

Thanks

47 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineTwoSevenRight From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 26 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 23513 times:

Nice report Jordan, looks like you visited some interesting countries... I've always wanted to go Zurich  


21/12/10 BAW2037
User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 23123 times:

Quoting TwoSevenRight (Reply 1):

Thx for reading. Zurich and the whole of Switzerland is really beautiful but sooo expensive  


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 23046 times:

Hi, very nice trip report and pics! Its always nice to see a report involving my hometown BEG...

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
Overall I would love to fly JAT again and if i had a choice between flying JU BEG-DXB or EK BEG-DXB (If they ever fly this) I would choose JU.

Are you kidding me? hahaha spending 7 hours in B737 can´t be better then 5 hours on A330!


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3235 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 23000 times:

Dobro dosao na Airliners.net   

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
The tickets were purchased 2 weeks before the flight and an EK return ticket to Zurich + a JAT one way ticket to Belgrade worked out to be the cheapest option at $2200 AUD.

It is a strange combination, because JU and EK have commercial agreement and the combination of flights is usually SYD-DXB on EK and DXB-BEG (with a technical stop in LCA) on JU, but your choice was wiser, it seems...Flying on a 737-300 all the way from Dubai is not always comfortable.
Anyway, I really enjoyed in your TR and wonderful pictures, both av and non-av ones.



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User currently offlinegardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1520 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 22825 times:

Hi

Nice report and pics.
A shame the crew were not that friendly on your flights. I have heard similiar stories recently about EK crews being like this. Not a good sign. Here's hoping my flights next month MEL-KUL vv will have more friendly crews.


User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 22731 times:

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 3):

Thanks for reading, i'm glad you liked it . I may have exaggerated just a little on the quality of the service on board JU haha, but i'd still probably choose them over EK   

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 4):

Hvala. Yeh it is a strange combination but it worked out to be the cheapest. An EK and JU ticket to BEG was around $2800 so this was $600 cheaper. I'm happy you enjoyed the report and pics. Belgrade was fantastic and the people were great, I can't wait to go back.

Quoting gardermoen (Reply 5):

Hi, I always seems to hear mixed stories about EK. I've had friends who've flown them and said that the crews were fantastic on all segments. I have a feeling that I may have just been unlucky and had disappointing crews serving my section of the plane, because the other FA's who I talked to were very friendly .


User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1145 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 22222 times:

1. The fare of US$2,000 is pretty high.
2. What a shame that JAT no longer fly to Sydney. Your fare would have been cheaper I think. I was in Sydney in 1989 and met people who flew from Europe with JAT as their fares were thecheapest.
3. I may be taking the EK flight from Zurich on an Award ticket to Mauritius so I am glad to see light loads. More of a chance of getting a seat.
4. I am shocked that EK don't serve a light continental breakfast on this route. From New York to London the flights are also 6 hours and we get at least a croissant / muffin.
5. You said the crews hate SYD to DUB? Why? I presume because it is a looooong flight and mostly full?
6. Would like to visit Lake Ohrid.

Thanks for the interesting report.


User currently offlineAI151 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2009, 303 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 22060 times:

Hi Jordan great TR and loved your pictures as well. It looks like you're father definitely enjoyed his flights more than you. It's a shame about the cabin crew with EK as they are becoming more inconsistent with their service on board. I also agree that the leg space on the A332 is terrible compared to the 77W.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
I'm a little over 6 foot and as you can tell from the pictures leg room was pretty tight. I would say there was more room than QF A380 y seat but less than SQ A380 Y seat. Anyway the seat overall wasn't comfortable at all and in the end I couldn't fall asleep once the entire flight

Nothing beats the legspace on the SQ A380 in Economy Class. I've sat on the upper deck and had great legroom for the 13 hour flight.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
Prior to arrival into BEG the pilot announced that due to thick fog we may have to divert to SKP or TGD. We ended up landing in BEG, with a very firm landing, it seemed like we were coming in very fast. We were one of only 2 flights to have landed that evening, all the others were diverted and the fog was so thick that we were driving around the hotel in circles not being able to see it right in front of us, I have no idea how he landed

Sounds like you were lucky being that only 2 aircrafts managed to land. Also skill has to go down to the pilot and first officer as is souds like the fog was veer, very bad. Especially as you couldn't see the hotel!

Sandeep (AI151)



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5052 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 21960 times:

Jordan,

Great trip report. I am headed to Belgrade in a month and am excited about it. Thanks for the report. The EK meals look awful!

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineTreeHillRavens From Malaysia, joined Jun 2007, 391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 21683 times:

Very nice trip report pal. The pictures are awesome ! Your trip to Eastern Europe was especially interesting  

User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 21464 times:

Thanks for the photos and the TR. Yes I remember seeing that building in Belgrade which was bombed out in the centre. Why was it not knocked down? (Actually I might have seen a few others like it around that area but I can't remember now...).

User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 21041 times:

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 7):

Hi thanks for reading. Yeh the fare really wasn't really that cheap, it was 2200 AUD so around 2000 US, however it was booked 2 weeks before departure and I had to travel on specific dates. Fares from Australia always seem to be high towards the end of the year, the cheapest i've ever paid for a return trip to Europe was with SQ $1300 US.

I would have loved to fly JAT, my parents use to fly them when they flew to Sydney. Loads on both, my flight to Zurich and from Zurich were around 60%, if you have an option of the B773 and the A332 choose the B77W. I was shocked that they didn't serve anything, the only thing written on the menu was that they provide a drinks service before arrival into Dubai.

The male FA told me that the flight from SYD to DXB is virtually always full and that the A380 is a very difficult aircraft to crew. You should definitely visit Lake Ohrid and make a stop in Mavrovo and Galicnik as well.

Quoting AI151 (Reply 8):

Hi Sandeep, thanks for taking the time to read and comment the report. Yeh my dad loved all the food and it looks pretty tasty in the photos as well. I was shocked at the difference in legroom, the A332 felt like it was configured for regional use.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 9):

Thanks for reading, i'm looking forward to reading more of your reports . You'll love Belgrade and the weather will be great, feel free to message me if you need any tips . The meals do look horrible and beside the desserts, were pretty poor. Will you be flying JU to BEG?

Quoting TreeHillRavens (Reply 10):

I'm glad you enjoyed the report and pictures. If you haven't been before you should definitely go. I also went to Malaysia on this trip and loved it .

Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 11):

Glad you enjoyed them. There are a few buildings that were bombed in BEG as well as railway track in southern Serbia amongst other things to be destroyed. I'm not sure what specifically that building was but the Chinese embassy in the centre of Beograd was also bombed.


User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2832 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 20636 times:

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
After reading 100's (probably 1000's) of trip reports on this forum and enjoying every single one, I figure its now my turn to contribute.

Thanks for the great contribution!

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
This is the seen I encountered when I approached the Emirates check in desks.

LOL I will never forget approaching check-in for my JFK-DXB flight. I was one of only 3 white people in the 200+ person line and looked out of place for not having a luggage trolley chock full of shrinkwrapped boxes, appliances, and suitcases! Despite it being summer, my mom (not traveling but seeing me off) felt awkward for wearing her sleeveless tank top because all of the other women were covered head to toe in their saris!

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
After clearing customs

I don't understand, you had to clear customs when LEAVING the country? I've done this for U.S. pre-clearance in Canada and the Bahamas, but why did you have to do it?

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
Overall this flight was much more enojoyable than the earlier one. The seats were more comfortable, the food was great and the crew were much friendlier

EK seems like such a mixed bag. My flight on them was absolutely excellent.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
We were one of only 2 flights to have landed that evening, all the others were diverted and the fog was so thick that we were driving around the hotel in circles not being able to see it right in front of us, I have no idea how he landed

You were very lucky to get in! I seem to have the opposite luck - when MKE briefly closed for fog this past March, my plane was one of only two that elected to divert, while everyone else got it!

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
From the NATO bombing

They didn't tear the building down?? That looks incredibly unsafe..



Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 20365 times:

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 13):

I'm happy that you enjoyed my contribution, I hope that there will be many more. I was in shock when I first saw that check in line but I guess thats what you get on a full A380 . Maybe customs is the wrong word, they just check your passport and you have to fill out a form saying where you are going and for how long.

based on what I have read and the differing opinions that people have i'm sure that EK is a mixed bag hehe. No they didn't tear the building down, i'm not sure why, maybe as a reminder?


User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 613 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 20174 times:

Well done on your first report buddy and a great read!

Pictures are great from Belgrade and Macedonia. Certainly one of the hidden gems of Easten Europe.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
I was also sitting next to a very friendly British couple ( I always seem to sit next to Brits on planes and they are always friendly )

You're lucky! I like to think we are all like that.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
They also didn't really look at the passenger when serving and seemed to have problem with using the words please and thankyou.

This isnt good practice at all. I can certainly say this kind of behaviour really puts you off.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
Prior to arrival a Tandoori chicken wrap was served as well as a cookie, both were delicious.

Sounds it! Some of your food offerings on EK looked really good but others looked horrible.

Thanks for sharing and looking forward to future reports!

Matt


User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1287 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20064 times:

Hey TK747,

Thank you very much for this fantastic report. Special thx for the photos from Serbia and Macedonia.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
4 international flights departing within 30 minutes of one another = massive crowding in Sydney airport and an inability to sit down anywhere


Surprising, no place to sit from 4 flights? Never expected anything like that in SYD.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
The flight was delayed by about 25 minutes basically because it was full and boarding was taking forever


I wonder if this is usual with full A380 flights.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
From the beginning the crew serving my section of the flight gave the impression of not wanting to be here. For most of the flight they seemed to be uninterested, aloof and not friendly at all with the passengers


Something wrong on EK #1.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
The seat on the b777-300 was so much more comfortable than the seat on the A380. It seemed wider and there must have been at least a few more inches of legroom.


In spite of the 3-4-3 configuration?

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
Landing into ZRH was very bumpy, there was thick fog over the airport and I didn't see the runway until impact
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtTJlhwqNIY- Landing video


Amazing! (and a bit scary).

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
Again the crew serving my section were pretty poor, uninterested and unprofessional


Something wrong on EK #2.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
Overall the flight, aside form the food, was pretty disappointing. The seats were uncomfortable and the crew were significantly worse than on other carriers that i've flown long haul


Something wrong on EK #3.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
I also have some meal photos that my dad took flying C class with TG and LX SYD-BKK-ZRH. He said the food was fantastic on both flights (a little better on LX) as was the service (a little better on TG)


You are not alone on this one - when I was younger, my father took me on his business trips from time to time and while he would sit in C I got Y.

Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
From the NATO bombing


Thank you Bill Clinton! I guess he is not very popular in Serbia.

Thx again, good job. And of course - welcome to the trip reporters club.

LY



"In our country, those who do not believe in miracles are irrational" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlineTreeHillRavens From Malaysia, joined Jun 2007, 391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 19847 times:

Quoting tk747 (Reply 12):
I'm glad you enjoyed the report and pictures. If you haven't been before you should definitely go. I also went to Malaysia on this trip and loved it .

I certainly will. And am glad that you enjoyed Malaysia  


User currently offlineEK773 From Malta, joined Jul 2004, 232 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 19635 times:

The joys of living in a free world. It wouldnt be an EK report without a negative comment from Abrelosojos.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 9):
The EK meals look awful!


User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 19502 times:

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 15):

Thanks for reading, i'm glad that you enjoyed it!. The lack of please and thankyou was probably one of the things that put me off most, as its so simple and just common courtesy. I was kind of expecting the presentation of food to be of a higher standard based on some of the other reports that i've read, i think my camera didn't help hehe.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 16):

Thanks for reading, i'm happy you liked the photos of Serbia and Macedonia, you should visit. I know that Sun D'or I think? use to or still do fly to Ohrid.

Sydney airport is much better now and more spacious, it was just cramped and lacking in seats at the time of the renovation.

To tell you the truth I didn't even notice the 3-4-3 configuration, maybe I was too tired but the cabin didn't feel cramped at all and the leg room was great compared to most other flights i've taken in Y, only MH b747 had more space .

On this trip I had the 2 "scariest landings that i've had  but it really wasn't so bad. Yes Bill Clinton is not popular at all in Serbia or Macedonia. Even though most of my family lives in Macedonia and weren't directly effected by the NATO bombing they still despise Clinton haha.

Quoting EK773 (Reply 18):

I can understand where his criticism is coming from especially if he received the kind of service that I received in Y class while travelling in Business. The food does look pretty horrible in the pics, that sausage still gives me nightmares jaja

Thanks for reading, I hope you enjoyed it!


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 19487 times:
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Quoting tk747 (Thread starter):
Unfortunately my camera died, I was really looking forward to the flight with JAT so I was dissapointed at not being able to take any photos.

Hi tk747,

thanks for an amazing trip report. It's very sad to not see pics from one of the last airlines in Europe to operate a "classic" Boeing 737.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 19256 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 20):

I was so disappointed that my battery went flat, I don't know what I was thinking taking pointless photos like a maniac in Sydney Airport haha. Hopefully i'll fly JAT again soon.


User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1653 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 18180 times:

Hi TK747,

Congrats on your first TR! Well done!

I do realise that the crew may have been tired, especially on the very long Sydney trip which involves 24 hour layovers at each stop they make before operating the next flight, but that still should not have been an excuse.

In my experience, Emirates seemed to have mastered the policy to address each and every boarding passenger by name, and if that is the case, why can they not work on improving other aspects? Very odd indeed.

I am due to travel on EK in the next few months, so it would be interesting to to get an 'update'  


Thanks a lot for sharing!

Cheers,
Roni



A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1090 posts, RR: 32
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 17939 times:

Hi Jordan.

Congratulations - and to quote Airpearl ' congratulations (or is it commiserations) are in order for sliding further into this pit of aerocentricity (don't think that's a word... but it should be) in which many of us here wallow daily ' - that must be copyrighted!


I echo my thoughts that this was a most enjoyable report. The photos never have to be a masterpiece, they're just there to help the narative and set the scene. Your photos do it well... and the whole in flight catering on EK looked chaotic and unappetising.

I hope the question of consistency can be addressed with this airline, after all. most customers take 4 flights and seem to have polar opposite views of each one.

With your exotic second name, I take it Belgrade is where family is?

Keep the reports up!

Luke



Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 17 hours ago) and read 17615 times:

Quoting ronerone (Reply 22):

Hi Roni, thanks for reading my 1st of hopefully many TR's, I never miss one of yours . I hope you write one for your upcoming Emirates flight so that a comparison can be made.

I was a bit shocked when the FA welcoming me on board referred to me by name, I think it kind of artificially raised my expectations for the remainder of the flight. Its a nice touch though.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 23):

Hi Luke, jaja definitely congratulations  and yes that quote needs to be copyrighted immediately. I'm glad you enjoyed the report, I no longer have that crappy camera anymore so the quality of photos should improve (I hope).

My family is from Macedonia, I also have some family in Belgrade and scattered throughout Eastern Europe. I'm not sure if my last name is Macedonian, I think it could be from anywhere in East Europe, I know there is a town in the Czech Republic with the same name and also an airport in Russia .

I look forward to your next report, your series of Indian reports and photos are inspiring me to plan a trip to India with a few friends.


25 ju068 : Congrats on the trully excellent trip report! Nice that you enjoyed Belgrade and thank you for putting up the pics! As for some who wonder why the bui
26 Post contains images tk747 : Hvala , I hope I can go to Belgrade before the end of the year. I'm glad you enjoyed the report, i'm looking forward to reading yours. Pozdrav iz Avs
27 Post contains images flightsimboy : That was the most incredible footage of fog......and then the sun LOL. Though I would not use the word "impact" maybe touchdown At ZRH during heavy f
28 tk747 : Yeh it was strange, like such heavy fog and immediately once we were on the ground there was bright sunshine with barely any fog haha. Touchdown woul
29 LazialeMKD : Great report and some nice looking photos from my homeland Macedonia! I really hope you enjoyed there and you are more then welcome to comeback again!
30 Post contains images tk747 : Hvala sto go procita . I have been to Macedonia every year for the past 5 years, I hope I can come again this year. The ticket which is cheapest this
31 akhmad : Hi Jordan, Awesome first report of yours! Very nice and well-written. I especially like your pictures of Serbia and Macedonia. Despite the war history
32 Post contains images tk747 : Hi Suryo, Thanks for reading my report I'm glad that you enjoyed the report and the pictures, you should definitely make plans to visit Serbia and Ma
33 SQ325 : The crew you are looking for looks like Asiana. Not 100% sure but believe so.
34 tk747 : Thanks for reading. I thought it was Philippine Airlines crew.[Edited 2010-08-26 16:34:08]
35 Post contains images globalflyer : Hey Jordan...that was a fantastic TR! Thanks for posting. I have been so lame and never produced one. I fly on Business all over the world and need to
36 OA260 : Nice report and congratulations on it, liked the photos and read. Hope to see more in future. OA260
37 Post contains images tk747 : Thankyou for reading, you should definitely write some trip reports! Check your personal messages for my Sydney suggestions. Thanks for reading, i'm
38 Post contains images fca767 : Nice Report, and there's nothing wrong with the pics, they were great! That Landing video was so funny because on touchdown it went instantly Sunny
39 tk747 : Thanks for reading! Yeh I think it would have been a difficult landing for the pilot as it was also very windy. TK747
40 Post contains links PlaneHunter : Hi Jordan, I finally found time to read your report completely and leave a reply - really interesting stuff, well done! It seems you had bad luck with
41 tk747 : Thanks for taking the time to read, I enjoy all of your reports but I somehow managed to miss out on the Oman Air one. I also found the seat uncomfor
42 Quokka : Здраво Јордана, велики излет извештај. Уживао сам читајући га. Sorry Jordan if that is complete gob
43 Post contains images SQ_EK_freak : Definitely Philippine Airlines crew Thanks for the great report, even if my airline didn't come across as so positive on all segments
44 tk747 : Hi thanks for reading, I appreciate the comment even though I speak Macedonian I can still understand Serbian so absolutely no need to apologise and
45 ADDICT4QF : I got an awesome price to SKP this year - AUD1900 in peak season and around 1-2hrs max stop over in BKK and ZRH both ways. Thai and Swiss on the way
46 tk747 : I just travelled to SKP this year and the cheapest return ticket was 1800 AUD but this was done by purchasing a return SQ ticket from SYD-SIN and the
47 OP3000 : Great TR. It personally brings back good memories of a recent BEG trip I did in November for a friend's wedding, held at the Kalemegdan fortress (over
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