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JK And LH LPA-MAD-BCN-MXP-BUD And Aviation Museum  
User currently offlinevandenheuvel From Netherlands, joined Dec 2008, 495 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8327 times:

Dear A.net members. Welcome to my fourth summer holiday trip report. This report will handle about the flights between LPA-MAD-BCN-MXP-BUD. In addition I’ll show some pictures made in Barcelona, Budapest and the Budapest Aviation Museum.

After enjoying a day at Gran Canaria it was time to head back north. I was flying Spanair LPA-MAD-BCN. There was a non-stop and better timed LPA-BCN service by an A320. Since MAD-BCN would be operated by the still uncovered B717 I decided to make the detour and transfer in Madrid. This was a nice occasion as I have never used Madrid’s terminal 2 before.

Experiencing some trouble with the local bus service the day before, I decided to make my way to the airport early. Which turned out to be the right choice as the bus was severely delayed again. After arriving at LPA I headed for the JK check-inn desks. There was a 5 minute wait before I could be assisted. The Spanish staff was very friendly and patient to any of the passengers. Security was passed smoothly. I spend most of my waiting time at the spotter’s deck.

Miami Air/Arkefly 737 heading for Amsterdam.
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This airport seems deserted on days without too many charter flights.
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After a little wait it was time to board the aircraft. It was the nearly 5 years old EC-JNC. Named Marques De Samaranch. Exterior pictures will follow. Interior looked okay. Not in the greatest state but not too worn either. Leg space however was lacking.

This flight left on time with a full 100% load.
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Runway 03L was still under construction. There was no waiting time for 03R. After taking off the BOB products were offered. Furthermore this was a very uneventful and professionally operated flight. I bought some catering for €4.50
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Nice feature.
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Faro airport, Portugal.
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Safety card/flyer.
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Saying goodbye to EC-JNC. Let’s start looking for my Boeing 717.
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You can see why EC-JJD was quite a disappointment. I was really hoping for that 717.
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EC-JJD is only a couple of months older than EC-JNC. Load factor was 99% with only 2 empty seats. I was not even sitting on the last row and yet both empty seats were on my row.
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After having this flight I quickly received my baggage and headed for my hotel. JK’s leg space and cabin comfort is definitely lower than IB’s. Yet I will prefer JK over IB all the time. There is some professionalism that makes you feel a lot more comfortable.

I have been to Barcelona before and stayed at the Fira Congress hotel. I liked it much enough to return to this place. A very fine hotel with free airport shuttle.
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Segrada Familia.


Barcelona Fish market. Not the nicest place to be on a warm summer’s day.
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After a brief visit to Barcelona I headed back to the airport to have my Lufthansa Italia flight out of here. The new Barcelona terminal looks great. A very spacious and modern airport.
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Just one more week till flying one of these.
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My ride to Milan. Ship Lima Hotel as covered in a FlyingFinn report just some days ago.
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Spanair’s geographically incorrect route map.
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Once onboard I was asked by some girls if I could change seats with them. After accepting I ended up in the middle of a very friendly American family. They’ve been on a cruise and were heading to London. As an ex Frontier employee we had enough to talk about. Before I knew it the flight was over and we were at Milan’s Malpensa Airport. I have no pictures of the cabin, but I’m convinced there were no standard LH seats on this plane. They were even more comfortable and cushioned.

As I had only a 1 hour transfer for my next flight to Budapest I wasn’t too amused by my 80 minute delay. A group of Ukrainian hockey girls were aggressively fighting their way to the front of the plane. After warnings in Spanish, Italian, English, German and Polish I tried my luck and told them to behave in Dutch. Since I was in the middle of the group my warning had some result. I started worrying about my own flight again.

After having a quick walk I found out I didn’t need to worry. Boarding hasn’t even started yet. Everything went fine. Only my bag didn’t make it to the flight. It was delivered to my hotel room the day after. On it I found two Swiss and two Lufthansa labels. After my flight to Milan it made three more flight to reach Budapest. Why didn’t it just take the next days LH service to BUD?
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Catering. The Fagolos were a lot better than the rice. The rice was cold and the pickles seriously made it strong tasted. It was terrible. I don’t think anyone finished it.
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They made it up with some mini ice cream.
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After filling a missing baggage claim I was friendly explained the procedures for reclaiming. I signed a form so that the hotel staff could accept my bag from the courier. Great service by the Budapest ground handling.

In Budapest I stayed at the very fine Novotel City Hotel. A really recommendable hotel right next to a subway station.
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Here I show some random Budapest city pictures.
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After a very enjoyable stay at Budapest it was time to head for the airport again. I went early assuring I’d had enough time to visit the Budapest Aviation Museum. A fantastic exhibition and definitely worth a visit.

First the interior of the Ilyushin 18.
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TU-134 from the air stairs.
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TU-154 from the air stairs.
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TU-134 interior.
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TU-154 and interior.
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Air stairs.
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Maybe this is better than the 727. I’m still in doubt.
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Yak-40
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The Aviation Museum turned out to be awesome. Staff was super friendly and even accommodating my bags. A Hungarian aviation veteran together with his interpreter/wife was giving me lots of information about the collection. They were patient and willing to answer all of my questions. I enjoyed being with only 4 others in the museum but felt sad for their lack of customers. So if you’re ever in the area, or having a long transit, make sure to visit this place.

My next report will cover my W6 flight to Rome, my U2 flight back to Madrid and my AirBerlin flights to Mallorca and Frankfurt.

Thanks a lot for reading.

Tim,

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User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1144 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8162 times:

Budapest looks much nicer than in 1972 when I was there.

I flew on a Malev TU 134 and soon after they had about 3 crashes one after the other. The whole fleet was temporarily grounded.

Thanks for the report.


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8465 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7896 times:
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Nice report Tim, thanks for sharing with us.

Shame you missed out on the 717, I guess the plus was not getting the same A320 again!

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
Load factor was 99% with only 2 empty seats. I was not even sitting on the last row and yet both empty seats were on my row.

- Looks like you struck gold!

I have to say the legroom in JK looks worse than I remember it to be, you can really see the difference with your LH 319 legroom shot!

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
The Aviation Museum turned out to be awesome

- Your pictures really do it justice, saw it from the terminal when there a few months back, must take time out to visit when in Budapest next.

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7886 times:

Hi Tim,

Another enjoyable if a little overdue (sorry, I'm known to be inpatient!) installment on your summer trip. I myself would've appreciated a bit more pictures, but well, it's your report - the ones you have are of very high quality so I guess it is quality versus quantity here.

Some familiar pictures of LPA - yes, it is a very yellow airport. Which sort of seems to match the Aldeasa duty free bags everyone is carrying around  .

Shame about missing the 717, it really is quite a nice rare little plane. But next year you will be able to fly a KF one on AMS-HEL, so no biggie  .

LHI is quite a nice little carrier, the food on the MXP-BUD flight looked quite horrible, but at least they served something. The same ice cream service was featured on my MXP-LIS flight as well. How was the economy service on BCN-MXP or were you too busy chatting to notice?

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
Miami Air/Arkefly 737 heading for Amsterdam.

Hey, this is the second report I'm reading today that has a picture of this very same bird!

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
You can see why EC-JJD was quite a disappointment. I was really hoping for that 717.

What's up with the livery? Are they introducing a new one or is this a sublease?

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
My ride to Milan. Ship Lima Hotel as covered in a FlyingFinn report just some days ago.

Oh yeah, with just a handful of planes in the LHI fleet it is not too difficult to find familiar ones...

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
Here I show some random Budapest city pictures.

Nice to see you made it to the Statue park, that place brings back some nice memories from my first visit to Hungary in 2002!

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
TU-134 interior.

It is interesting to see the blue/green interior color that all the Soviet era planes feature, regardless whether it is a civil airliner or a fighter plane. Reminds me a bit of hospitals actually  .

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
Maybe this is better than the 727. I’m still in doubt.

I flew an Aeroflot one back in 1988 or thereabouts. Can't remember much, though.


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2438 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7881 times:

Hi Tim,

Great covering of the fouth part of your summer holiday. Very enjoyable to read! Pity about you missing out the B717.

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
Miami Air/Arkefly 737 heading for Amsterdam.

Could it be the same aircraft Martijn has seen in AMS?

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
After warnings in Spanish, Italian, English, German and Polish

Well, I did not know you speak so many more languages.  
Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
I was not even sitting on the last row and yet both empty seats were on my row.

What a lucky guy.

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
I went early assuring I’d had enough time to visit the Budapest Aviation Museum. A fantastic exhibition and definitely worth a visit.

Slightly different to Le Bourget, but it still looks attractive indeed.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlinevandenheuvel From Netherlands, joined Dec 2008, 495 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7826 times:

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 1):
Budapest looks much nicer than in 1972 when I was there.

I flew on a Malev TU 134 and soon after they had about 3 crashes one after the other. The whole fleet was temporarily grounded.

Thanks for the report.

Lychemsa, thanks for responding to my trip report. I can't image how Budapest must have looked back in 1972. I know it's probably one of the prettiest cities I've visited so far. It must have been awesome to fly that TU 134. It's such a nice little jet.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
Shame you missed out on the 717, I guess the plus was not getting the same A320 again!

Hi Mark. Thanks for your words. It was at least another reg. Too bad the A320 now is my most flown bird, it bounced the 757 to the second place.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):

I have to say the legroom in JK looks worse than I remember it to be, you can really see the difference with your LH 319 legroom shot!

I was not manipulating these photos by sliding down on my seat. The legroom really wasn't more generous. LH has always been great.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
Your pictures really do it justice, saw it from the terminal when there a few months back, must take time out to visit when in Budapest next.

You won't regret it. It's only a short walk away from the main terminal. If you leave from the low budget terminal you'll need to get on the bus.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
Another enjoyable if a little overdue (sorry, I'm known to be inpatient!) installment on your summer trip. I myself would've appreciated a bit more pictures, but well, it's your report - the ones you have are of very high quality so I guess it is quality versus quantity here.

Hi FlyinFinn. I was actually worrying about posting too many pictures. I dragged 92 pictures to my editing program, I thought is was way too much. I will try to keep up the quality.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
Some familiar pictures of LPA - yes, it is a very yellow airport. Which sort of seems to match the Aldeasa duty free bags everyone is carrying around

I have some faint memories from your visit there. As long as is isn't crowded with tourist the airport is fine. I have always liked the Turkey sandwiches they serve there.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
Shame about missing the 717, it really is quite a nice rare little plane. But next year you will be able to fly a KF one on AMS-HEL, so no biggie .

Ah, that will be nice. Maybe I'll be exploring your home base anytime soon.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
LHI is quite a nice little carrier, the food on the MXP-BUD flight looked quite horrible, but at least they served something. The same ice cream service was featured on my MXP-LIS flight as well. How was the economy service on BCN-MXP or were you too busy chatting to notice?

I always appreciate such efforts. The ice cream indeed was a nice touch. I remember your photo from it. From the BCN-MXP service I only remember coffee and a wet towel. The same as you had. Probably something to eat to, I don't remember. Shame on me.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
Hey, this is the second report I'm reading today that has a picture of this very same bird!

I still have to read that one. It must be Crimson's report.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):

What's up with the livery? Are they introducing a new one or is this a sublease?

I think that's their new livery. I believe it's still with the old Spanair indication. That still has to change.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):

It is interesting to see the blue/green interior color that all the Soviet era planes feature, regardless whether it is a civil airliner or a fighter plane. Reminds me a bit of hospitals actually

It indeed makes an impression. Today's western cockpits are so neutral and not drawing attention.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
I flew an Aeroflot one back in 1988 or thereabouts. Can't remember much, though.

Well, at least you can say you flew it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 4):
Great covering of the fouth part of your summer holiday. Very enjoyable to read! Pity about you missing out the B717.

Suryo. Thanks for commenting on my trip report. I'm glad you've enjoyed it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 4):
Could it be the same aircraft Martijn has seen in AMS?

Still have to check out his report. It probably is. Luckily I was first...

Quoting akhmad (Reply 4):

Well, I did not know you speak so many more languages.

Oh no. We were in very international company. Since people yelled at them in all these languages. I just couldn't resist doing it too.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 4):

Slightly different to Le Bourget, but it still looks attractive indeed.

I still have to visit that museum. Probably nice too.

Tim,


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4250 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7496 times:

Hi Tim,
good follow up on your travels. Some great pics from the aviation museum also. Might head down there sometime. Never been to BUD yet ... At least I have one reason now  
Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
You can see why EC-JJD was quite a disappointment. I was really hoping for that 717.

Oh yes, I can imagine. One good thing, you got the new JK tail   I got the 717 only once, and am booked on one more in September. Hopefully no changes for me...

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
JK’s leg space and cabin comfort is definitely lower than IB’s. Yet I will prefer JK over IB all the time.

IB is professional enough I think, and IB have a fantastic safety record also. Try IB next time, and get in the forward rows of economy. They have more legroom. So far I have only 'good' experiences on them. It's a shame IB is offering buy-on-board service, it's not matching with a national carrier.

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
at the Fira Congress hotel

Good looking room, I like the design. I think it offers reasonable rates also?

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlinerogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1197 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7474 times:

Hola Tim,

Very good TR travelling from one of the most southern cities to central Europe.


Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
Since MAD-BCN would be operated by the still uncovered B717

It has been the same for me, I have been after the B717 many times on the BCN-MAD shuttle but it has been always replaced by A320s... I hope I can catch it when coming back from PMI in two weeks.

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
Just one more week till flying one of these.

BA flies them BCN-LCY which is just seasonal now, in summer.

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
My ride to Milan. Ship Lima Hotel as covered in a FlyingFinn report just some days ago.

This D-AILH seems to be specialised in this route, I have got it three out of four times I have flown BCN-MXP-BCN.

Salut!

Roger



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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1838 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7222 times:
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Hey Tim, nice report as usual. Sucks about the 717 aircraft swap though... The museum looks good, those seats remind me of a certain boat we once sailed on!

Regards,

Martijn



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5115 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6834 times:

Hey, Tim,

very nice pictures and another interesting routing.

What a pity to miss that B717, Spanair is my negative favourite these days in rerouting and aircraft changes, till now.
I need to go for PMI next Saturday, JK on the M80 is cancelled, so missing that leg also.

Looking for the next part now, you know.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26787 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6786 times:

Great report and pics, Id love to see that aviation museum sometime, thanks for the insight , as you say Im surprised also that more dont go . Certainly worth a trip just to visit that .

OA260


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6707 posts, RR: 78
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6633 times:

Hi Tim,

another nice report with many good pictures. Too bad you missed the 717.

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
Leg space however was lacking.

No legroom, no service, that's Spanair...

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):

You can see why EC-JJD was quite a disappointment. I was really hoping for that 717.

At least you got the new livery - I'm not sure, but it's probably the one and only plane in the new livery.

Quoting vandenheuvel (Thread starter):
Catering. The Fagolos were a lot better than the rice. The rice was cold and the pickles seriously made it strong tasted. It was terrible. I don’t think anyone finished it.

Wow, that sounds bad. I'd expect something better on LH Italia.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
What's up with the livery? Are they introducing a new one or is this a sublease?

It is the new livery, but the repainiting process seems to very slow. Probably JK has even stopped it for whatever reason.


PH



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User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6608 times:

Hi Tim,

seems we've missed each other for a handful of days! I'm glad to see photos about the Ferihegy aviation museum, which I haven't had the pleasure to see yet. Anyway, just for a matter of personal interest, would you tell me, approximately, which was the load of the LHI flights you caught? Thanks in advance.


User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6606 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 3):
The same ice cream service was featured on my MXP-LIS flight as well

I did 5 flights with LHI and I've never been given an ice-cream. Is it a special feature for Nordic passengers or what? 


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