Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13733 times:
Hi there,
It has been quite a while since my last TR and I made plenty of trips since then, so I thought it's time to start catching up. The first one I'd like to write about is a vacation I took to my home country Surinam in March 2010. The reason why this is the first? It was an eventful flight (well, the AMS-PBM sector was) and there are not that many reports on the AMS-PBM route. There is one excellent one featuring PY though, check it out.
I'll also add some pics of Surinam for good measure.
I wasn't planning for this trip actually, as I had recently been to Singapore and Malaysia and already had a trip to Rome planned later that month. I also went to Surinam a year earlier and I usually don't go every year (I am now, lol, going again in November). But... KL suddenly came with their promo awards, fling to certain destinations for half the Flying Blue points. So I couldn't resist that offer to go back to visit family and friends. And staying in the house I grew up in is also always nice nostalgia.
Another bonus was that KL had recently changed the equipment from the 744 full pax to the MD11 (the year before I had flown the 744 to PBM) and this would be my first trip on the MD11. As there are not many pax MD11's flying around, this is an opportunity not to miss. On the (minor) downside, KL also changed the departure time to 9am (used to be noon), so this meant getting up early. On the plus side though, this meant that we had the full evening to enjoy in PBM.
I was flying Y on the way to PBM and for the return flight I had booked economy comfort.
Date: 28 February 2010
Flight: KL713
Aircraft: MD11
Reg: PH-KCH (delivered 31 August 1995)
Seat: 26J
Boarding time: 07:15
Scheduled departure time: 08:45
Scheduled arrival time: 13:10
Loadfactor: just about completely full, 99% in both Y and WBC
Due to the early boarding time, I only made a short visit to the Crown Lounge for a quick breakfast. By the time I got to the gate, pre-boarding (security checks and such) had already started. Finally boarding really started and we pushed back about 45 minutes late, despite the early boarding time.
PH-KCH standing ready at the gate:
Wing view before pushback. Another reason to visit the tropics, we just had the longest winter I can remember:
Winglet view inflight:
Cabin view, KL had already refitted the MD11 fleet with AVOD:
Unfortunately, the airshow wasn't working properly. All we could see was our current position, but not the flight path, altitude, etc:
Wing view inflight. Nothing but Atlantic Ocean for 90% of the flight:
So why was this flight eventful? After about 2 hours I saw a lot of people and cabin crew near seat 25A. As I was sitting in 26J I had a good view of what was happening. They were helping a man sitting there who was having cardiac problems. After about 15 minutes they left again and everything seemed fine. Another 2 hours later (about halfway through the flight) the panic was much bigger. They even brought out "the paddles" but didn't use them anymore as it was too late. Unfortunately the man passed away. The crew put him in a bodybag and put blankets over him and layed him down on the seats 25ABC. The pilot came on the PA requesting pax to be respectful and not walk by the seat if possible and told us we would keep flying to PBM. The cabin crew were visibly very upset, but still handled the situation quite well IMHO. The man was flying with his brother and they gave him a seat upfront. Some pax were also quite upset at all this of course, but everybody remained relatively calm.
Reaching the Surinamese coastline:
Overflying the capital city of Paramaribo on approach to PBM. The river is called the Suriname river (yes inventive I know). The big bridge across the river is actually relatively new, finished in 2000:
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Final approach was a bit of an adventure. The plane made a couple of very steep turns and was quite bumpy. A few pax got really scared at this time. After landing, I asked the pilot about the reason for the steep turns and he said they had to avoid some rain showers.
After landing. As you can see the thrust reverser of the #2 engine is still open. It turned out the engine failed upon landing and the plane had to stay in PBM for 2 days for repairs:
View from the street in front of our house in Paramaribo, still early in the morning:
An old plantation (Frederiksdorp) beautifully restored:
In the tropics, when it rains it pours!!
Overbridge, lovely resort upstream of the Surinam river:
Relaxing in the river at Overbridge:
Fort Zeelandia, the site of the December murders (in 1982). The fort was built in the 17th century:
Gun powder storage, in Fort New Amsterdam. The storage was built in 1778:
Javanese Sunday market. You can find all kinds of fruit, veggies and sweets here. As well as lovely ladies :
Unfortunately the time to leave came too soon again.
Date: 14 March 2010
Flight: KL714
Aircraft: MD11
Reg: PH-KCC (delivered 24 June 1994)
Seat: 9J
Boarding time: 07:15
Scheduled departure time: 18:15
Scheduled arrival time: 07:15
Loadfactor: just about completely full, 99% in both Y and WBC
The departure hall of PBM. Basic, but has all the necessities, shops and the like:
Business class lounge at PBM. Again, pretty basic, but the food is great!
PY a343. I love how you get to walk on the tarmac at PBM:
PH-KCC waiting to bring us back:
Up close to PH-KCC's engine:
Just after departure, flying over Suriname's green jungle:
Passing the coastline:
Arriving in AMS, gloomy as usual:
PH-KCC sitting at the gate at AMS after arrival from PBM:
As I mentioned, for the flight back I booked economy comfort. IMHO the extra money is definitely not worth it. It's just economy with a few inches extra legroom. But since the seats are the same, I experienced the same comfort level as in regular Y. I fly KL quite frequently and have always been happy with them. Economy comfort didn't add anything for me. One thing I was disappointed with was that the portions of the meals have become smaller. Anyway, next time I'm flying regular Y all the way. I can imagine that tall people would appreciate the extra legroom though...
Anyway, thanks for reading and comments are of course welcome!!
Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 13626 times:
Hi Sergio,
Thanks for sharing this excellent TR with us, AMS-PBM is indeed a rare featured destination on A.net.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): Wing view before pushback. Another reason to visit the tropics, we just had the longest winter I can remember:
Haha, you indeed chose a good time to depart to PBM.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): On the (minor) downside, KL also changed the departure time to 9am (used to be noon), so this meant getting up early.
I guess that won't be appreciated by the Suriname community here in the NL.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): After landing. As you can see the thrust reverser of the #2 engine is still open. It turned out the engine failed upon landing and the plane had to stay in PBM for 2 days for repairs:
That's a pity, however nice that it didn't affect you personally.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): PY a343. I love how you get to walk on the tarmac at PBM:
Airports that allow walking on the tarmac are so great! SMI & RIX come into my mind as well.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): Just after departure, flying over Suriname's green jungle:
Beautiful!!
Suriname seems to be a very beautiful country for visiting and have some nice holiday!
Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 13453 times:
Quoting Kappel (Reply 2): HEY!!! Come on... hahaha, we're not that bad!!
No no, I don't mean that as an insult, but I've quite some friends from Suriname and the majority of them is saying it themselves As PBM is one of the KL destination with fewest transfer pax I don't understand this shift, now Surinam Airways is more attractive, at least ex AMS.
Quoting Kappel (Reply 2): Agreed!! Love getting out (or in) the aircraft right next to the engine. Makes you appreciate how big the engine and the aircraft as a whole.
eastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 473 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13273 times:
Hi Kappel,
this is an entertaining report, and thanks for posting another KLM trip and update about PBM airport. I flew only once in a KLM MD11 (Amy Johnson) and it was a great experience
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): One thing I was disappointed with was that the portions of the meals have become smaller
i totally agree with you, it what makes me try the competition. Anyway i will fly again KLM soon and see the difference. do you have any pics of the meals?
BTW, Surinam looks great for adventure vacations
Regards
East African Spotter
Fly with Air Burundi, Air Tanzania, Air Uganda, Kenya Airways and Rwandair...Jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki
CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 42 Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13217 times:
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Hi Kappel, nice report. Sucks about the pap that died during the flight! Together with an engine failure on landing makes for an interesting flight for the crew, I'm sure. I'd love to try the M11 sometime.
The pictures of Suriname look nice. A guy from Suriname I know is always telling me to go there!
Contact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14 Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12783 times:
Hi Kappel,
Great report and fantastic pictures! I also enjoyed your pictures of Surinam - a country I hadn't known much about before. Now I know at least what it looks like there and I have to say it seems to be a really interesting destination.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): As there are not many pax MD11's flying around, this is an opportunity not to miss.
Indeed, the MD-11 has become rare. I guess KLM might have the larges passenger MD-11 fleet today.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): Another reason to visit the tropics, we just had the longest winter I can remember
Yes, a very wise decision. I myself went to Morocco instead...
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): Cabin view, KL had already refitted the MD11 fleet with AVOD:
Impressive - I wouldn't have expected AVOD on the MD-11.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12654 times:
Quoting Severnaya (Reply 3): No no, I don't mean that as an insult, but I've quite some friends from Suriname and the majority of them is saying it themselves
Haha, no worries, I didn't take offense, I'm well aware of our reputation. Funny thing is, in Suriname the daily life starts really early. People generally start working at 7 am.
Quoting eastafspot (Reply 4): any risk of crocodile or other nice fauna inside?
No, not crocs. There are no crocs in Suriname anyway, only cayman (smaller version of crocs, but not dangerous to people). There is a very small risk of piranha though (that's what the net is for). Luckily the species found in Suriname is not aggressive, but it's generally better not to go in the water with bleeding wounds. They will attack if they smell blood. But that's only in the unlucky combination of the bleeding wound, and any piranha in the neigbourhood that also found a way through the net.
planenutz From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1267 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12616 times:
Thanks for this great trip report.
I have always wanted to visit Suriname. Mostly because I love Suranamese food!
Since there was a death on the flight, did medical personnel/ambulance and/or police mee tthe plane when it arrived?
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12537 times:
Quoting Contact Air (Reply 6): I guess KLM might have the larges passenger MD-11 fleet today.
I believe KL is the only airline that has the pax MD11 in scheduled service. There are a few that do charter work (like World), but not scheduled.
Quoting Contact Air (Reply 6): I wouldn't have expected AVOD on the MD-11.
KL intends to keep the MD11 untill 2015 IIRC, so they decided to refit the MD11 fleet with AVOD in 2009 IIRC. And KL AVOD is quite good, plenty of choices.
Quoting planenutz (Reply 9): Mostly because I love Suranamese food!
I hear you on that. I'm biased of course, but I love it as well. The great thing about Surinamese food is the variation because of the various peoples living there (Indian, Chinese, Creole, European, Javanese, etc)
Quoting planenutz (Reply 9): Since there was a death on the flight, did medical personnel/ambulance and/or police mee tthe plane when it arrived?
Yes, there was an ambulance that met the plane on arrival. Of course the deceased and his brother were the last to leave the plane.
flightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 849 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 11884 times:
Gorgeous trip report on the MD-11! You are so lucky to ride it while it is still around . And yes so wonderful you can walk on the tarmac at PBM. Sorry though about the incident on board and the rough landing.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): As I mentioned, for the flight back I booked economy comfort. IMHO the extra money is definitely not worth it. It's just economy with a few inches extra legroom.
But wasn't that view being in front of the engine making it worth the ride . Nothing like KLM's aircraft with their logos on the engines and the winglets!
WhereToNext From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11766 times:
Hi Sergio,
Very interesting flight indeed! My condolences to the departed gentleman's family. I think I would've need a beer after a flight like given the events that occurred.
Suriname looks very beautiful and tranquil and I'm sure is one of the hidden gems of South America. I wish to visit someday! Thanks again for the trip report and covering a not-so-common route!
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 11137 times:
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11): But wasn't that view being in front of the engine making it worth the ride . Nothing like KLM's aircraft with their logos on the engines and the winglets!
Not to mention the engine sounds on takeoff. I recorded the takeoff with my ipod and it captured the sound nicely! So, that was indeed a benefit of booking economy comfort. Just don't book it for the legroom unless you're tall, not worth it.
Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 12): Suriname looks very beautiful and tranquil and I'm sure is one of the hidden gems of South America.
It is certainly a very beautiful country. It had a tumultuous past (the main reason we moved to the Netherlands in the eighties, it was quite bad back then) but ever since democracy has returned it has become indeed a tranquil country. There are some problems with crime, but certainly no worse than a big US city. There are some people concerned because the former dictator has recently been elected president, but so far there are no strange things going on. And to be honest I think it will be ok. This is not the eighties or early nineties anymore and he doesn't have the same power as back then. Don't get me wrong, I don't get it why anybody in their right mind would elect him, but it's a democracy and we have to respect that, until he starts doing crazy stuff.
You definitely should!! From the US there are 2 options, Caribean Airlines or PY via MIA.
Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 12): Thanks again for the trip report and covering a not-so-common route!
You're very welcome! . Maybe I'll also add my flight from February 2009 to PBM. That was with the 744 and I have some nice pics from that vacation as well...
airpearl From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 934 posts, RR: 37 Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11031 times:
Hi Kappel
Thanks for this very interesting report on an eventful KLM MD11 ride. Travelling on one of their remaining trijets is very close to the top of my list, so your report definitely caught my attention. And Suriname looks wonderfully tempting, even if it's exceedingly expensive to get to from where I am. Still one can dream...
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): As there are not many pax MD11's flying around, this is an opportunity not to miss.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): Cabin view, KL had already refitted the MD11 fleet with AVOD
The cabin looks pretty good. And great that KL decided to retrofit them.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): The cabin crew were visibly very upset, but still handled the situation quite well IMHO. The man was flying with his brother and they gave him a seat upfront. Some pax were also quite upset at all this of course, but everybody remained relatively calm.
This is quite something. These events are really unfortunate and can happen anywhere, but being in an enclosed space for a prolonged period can't be the nicest. It can bring out the best or worst in passengers, and also the crew I would imagine.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): It turned out the engine failed upon landing and the plane had to stay in PBM for 2 days for repairs:
Wow, a second 'event' on the same flight. Glad you landed safely.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): the flight back I booked economy comfort. IMHO the extra money is definitely not worth it.
Thanks for this. It's useful to know. I presume everything else including service and catering are identical?
WhereToNext From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 10632 times:
Quoting Kappel (Reply 13): Don't get me wrong, I don't get it why anybody in their right mind would elect him, but it's a democracy and we have to respect that, until he starts doing crazy stuff.
This is why I leave politics to the locals and just enjoy the culture when I'm abroad.
Quoting Kappel (Reply 13): Maybe I'll also add my flight from February 2009 to PBM. That was with the 744 and I have some nice pics from that vacation as well...
I'll be on the look out! I'd gladly read (and enjoy) another report about PBM!
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10435 times:
Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 15): This is why I leave politics to the locals and just enjoy the culture when I'm abroad.
Yeah, that's always best. I remember when I went to Washington DC in 2008 some friends were asking me, why are you going to Bush? So I told them, I'm not visiting him, I'm visiting the US and in the case of DC, the history of the US (I was mainly going for the National Mall). And I thoroughly enjoyed it. As long as the country is stable, that's all that matters for a vacation to me. There are some countries I wouldn't visit because of the political situation though. North Korea being one of them (yes, it's certainly possible to visit as a tourist), as well as Myanmar. Thailand seems to be more stable again, but during the protest I wouldn't go either. I had people stuck out there when they blocked the airport, so that can really suck. Of course, there are worse places to be stuck than Thailand
Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 15): I'll be on the look out! I'd gladly read (and enjoy) another report about PBM!
BOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9924 times:
Certainly an eventful flight, what with the death on board and also the failure of the #2 engine on landing. Was the latter noticeable in any way to passengers?
I do heartily approve of KL's having retrofitted the M11 with AVOD. Amazing to think that KL is now the only scheduled pax M11 operator. I have flown the M11 with WO, and also spent a day crawling around a couple of SR examples (but only taxied across JFK, no flying), but I certainly would not mind a KL M11 flight. Unfortunately, we almost never see the M11 here at JFK ... my next KL flight in January will either be a 772 or 74M.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9825 times:
Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 17): Was the latter noticeable in any way to passengers?
Well, it felt like the braking took a bit longer than usual, but I could be mistaken on that. Other than that it wasn't really noticeable. The crew handeled it quite well!
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6191 posts, RR: 79 Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9825 times:
Hi Sergio,
interesting report with great pictures from Surinam - never seen that here on a.net. Too bad the man passed away on your flight, must have been quite upsetting for many people on board.
Quoting Kappel (Thread starter): Cabin view, KL had already refitted the MD11 fleet with AVOD:
It was a good decision to upgrade the MD-11s, but these screens are too small by today's standards.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8521 times:
I thought I'd add some video's to this TR. The quality is not the best, as I recorded them with my ipod nano (had nothing better at the time). But I do think they add something to the pics. So enjoy!!
26 abrelosojos: Thank you very much for this report. I personally felt weird with the whole death thing. I don't know how I would have reacted - anyways, Suriname is
27 Kappel: I know what you mean. Brazil is our neighbour, but also hard to get to, with only direct flights to BEL. From CCS, I think the easiest way to get to
28 BA319-131: Hi Sergio, Interesting report, thanks form posting. What was the food like? I see you mention the portions seemed smaller but little else. - Whilst a
29 ClassicLover: Very interesting report! I especially liked the pictures of Suriname - it looks beautiful Though I am sure you only showed the best haha! Thanks very
30 Kappel: The taste of the food is still ok. Better than LH catering, that's for sure (no, I don't like LH catering at all!!) Not really, there are no pics of