Luxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 444 posts, RR: 18 Posted (2 years 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9086 times:
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Luxair or Air Berlin? Who is the winner?
Finally it was time to travel again. Like everytime, all things I wanted to go after seemed to be in one week and so after my first trip I just had some hours at home to get a little bit of sleep before heading forwards.
But let's begin right at the beginning:
Every year I'm doing a city trip with my family in october and this time we decided to go to London/UK and had some options how to get there.
Of course there is always Ryanair from HHN to STN, but after a previous trip with FR, I swore myself to never fly with them again.
Lufthansa had a pretty good offer from FRA to eather Heathrow or City airport ( 99 € R/T), which is an unbelievable price for a carrier like LH, but I flew that route a few times, so this wasn't a real option for me.
But then I checked out Luxair, which probably know only a few of you, but they had a Return-fare from LUX to LCY for some 120€.
LUX is only a one hour drive from my home and the departure and arrival times suited me well.
But at first, let me tell you a little bit more about Luxair:
Luxair is the national airline of Luxembourg and has its base at Luxembourg-Findel Airport, but fly to many destinations via Saarbrücken ( SCN ).
In the 50s, the finance district in Luxembourg started to develop and there was now a need for flights to the other big citys around Europe.
They started operations in 1962 with a leased Fokker F-27. The first destination was Paris.
By time they had operated the Fokker F-27,Vickers Viscount, Sud Aviation Caravelle, Boeing 747 SP, Fokker 50, Embraer EMB 120, Boeing 737-200, -400, -500, -700 and -800.
For their Europe network, they started to buy Embraer ERJ an they late 90's and in June 2006 they ordered the Bombardier Q400.
But now it was time for thso enough time to check in and choose some good seats.
After check-in I went to the airport restaurant, from where you have an excellent view on the apron and runway.
New National B744F:
But the disadvantage of an airport like LUX is, that not so much is happening there.
The best thing I could spot was a Cargolux 747F.
The Airport in Findel is so huge and at the moment they only need a third of the facilities they actually have. Quite impressive, as it was built in the 2000s, where money normaly wasn't there just to build whatever you want to, but well...
For the passengers it is really nice because there are no queues at the security points and in some minutes we were airside.
There are the same shops as on every bigger airport worldwide: a bar and some Dutyfree shops, so nothing special at all.
The gate was in a special part of the airport, because it was a non-Schengen flight and we had to go through a Passport control, but the all the staff was so nice and so everything went very smooth.
Boarding was delayed by around 10-15min, but as it was a leisure trip, nothing to get angry about.
LUX – LCY
Scheduled: 14:20-14:30 ( local time )
A funny thing about LG is, that they do the safety demonstration in at least three languages and they always have to hurry, because taxiing in LUX normally does not take long.
After a very detailed information from the flightdeck, we started our departure to the United Kingdom.
The F/O announced that today's flight will go right over Belgium, than cross the Channel and well than to LCY.
The weather was perfect and soon after the seatbelt sign switched off, the service began.
There was the option of a Cheese and Tomato sandwich or one with Corned Beef and fresh garden salad. A good service for an one hour flight. Of course, all alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks were free of charge.
I had an orange juice with it.
The sandwich was delicious and the orange juice tasted really fresh.
After the F/A ( there were two on this flight ) collected the packages, they handed out some sweets, which is a nice gesture and reminded me to the famous Air Berlin chocolate hearts, to which I will come later again more detailed.
After about 50min flighttime, we started our decent into LCY and luckily the wind was on our side and we did the approach right over downtown London and all famous sights, such as London eye were visable.
The landing was a bit bumpy, but this is normal in LCY.
After a quick taxi and the famous U-turn it was time to deboard. As there was no busshuttle, we had to walk and as I wanted to take pictures, a staff member yelled to me that this is not allowed and so I could not take that many pictures there.
As there were only two aircrafts arriving that time, the queues at the immigration desks were rather small and it took only some minutes to get through.
I found it quite impressive that LCY only has two luggage belts for the relatively big amount of flights.
For the way to our hotel, we chose the Docklands Light Railway and the tube and in about 30 minutes, we were at our hotel.
In the four days, we stayed there, we visited all the famous sights of London, such as Madame Tussauds, the London Dungeon and of course Harrods, which has so much glamour.
And VS boss:
I also spend an afternoon at LHR to spot and it was impressive.
Here some photos to share with you:
Some more London expressions:
I also did a daytrip to the south of England, to Eastbourne, a nice small town at the seaside, which I visited before.
I went there by the Southern Service train. They have a really good connection to Englands south and the ticketfare at about 20 Pounds was resonable for this daytrip.
The journey time was about one hour thirty.
I enjoyed the day there with my brother and the weather was really nice.
The train was comparable to a regional train in Germany, the seats are comfortable and the was a BOB service, which had about the same prices as EI.
Soon the four days have been over and it was time to go home.
Our flight was departing at 16.10 so we left the hotel at about 13.30 and made our way to London City airport.
We arrived there quickly and went straight to the Luxair check-in where only a few people were, so we proceeded fast and went up to security.
LCY is a small aiport, but I like there airside waiting area, they call it Lounge, but its a normal waiting area, but with a very good view on the tarmac, so I grabed a seat at the window and watched the planes for about an hour.
In LCY, you are only allowed to go to the gate, when Boarding starts, so I think thats a good idea and the use the limited space at LCY very efficiantly.
The flight to LUX was delayed by some 10 minutes which was no problem for me.
Then boarding started and I headed threw the gate right to the plane.
Boarding was finished quickly and doors were closed.
After the safety demonstration and a quick announcement from the flightdeck, we followed a Fokker 50 and taxied to the runway. Flighttime was announced as 1h10.
After the usual very fast acceleration of the Q400, we made our way up in the air through the clouds into nicer weather.
Service began short after seatbelt sign was switched off.
This time there were the option of a mozarella and tuna sandwich and the usual drink service.
We passed over the Channel and Belgium before starting our decend into LUX.
The landing was very smooth and we taxied to our parking space.
After passport control, we recieved our bags, which did the way from the plane faster than we did, that was perfect.
After an hour car drive, I arrived home, but had to unpack and pack my suitcase again for the trip on the next day, which I include into this TR.
On Friday the 15th of october, the Steve Miller Band had a concert in DUS and after a four hour drive by car I arrived there at about 3 PM and checked in at the hotel before doing some shopping before going to the „Phillipshalle“ where the concert took place.
The gig itself was really cool.
The next morning, I headed to DUS at about 9, even my AB flight to NUE was departing at 12:30.
I went there so early because I ve never been there before and they had a nice viewing platform on top of the terminal and with a student fare of 1,50 €, that was not bad at all.
So I went there for about an hour and took pictures of some planes.
But before I checked in at the selfservice machine, which was quick and I could choose my favorite seat.
Unfortunately the last row was blocked, so I opted for a window seat in the second last row.
Security was no problem and airside I did some dutyfree shopping.
At 12.00 the boarding was announced and I went to our busgate.
In the gate area, there were some magazines and newspaper on offer.
DUS – NUE
Air Berlin Q400
Load: ~ 60%
Boarding was finished very quickly and was followed by an announcement from the cockpit, which was nothing special but okay.
The safety demo was really short and the two AB F/A didnt speak german so well, but who cares for a fare of 30€.
After a short taxi to the runway, we departed into the fog.
gabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 2512 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8062 times:
You got some great pictures flying into LCY. Whenever I fly in, we seem to approach from the other direction so the only view is of the docks, not the city. Looks like LG have a very nice inflight service.
Luxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 444 posts, RR: 18 Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7857 times:
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And than, after the seatbelt sign switched off, the service began, I got a coke and a chocolate bar, they had also something salty on offer but I don't exactly know what it was.
After that the two F/As sat in the last row till about 10min before landing and read magazines, that was a bit surprising, because they didnt do anything for the passengers, which I really disliked.
After about 35 minutes, our descend into NUE began and soon we landed at the airport.
We had to wait about 10 minutes for our bus, but than we went fast to the terminal and I got my bag.
I was picked up at the airport, so I didn't have to use the underground, which is always good
After some nice days with a friend, it was time to head home.
As there is no direct service from NUE to SCN, I went for the Deutsche Bahn train instead, and they had a oneway ticket in 1st class for 49€, a good bargain.
I head to take a local train first, but it was only for 20min and was empty so that was okay, and I booked a journey which includes the german ICE and the French TGV, so I could compare both of them.
Both trains were very punctual and after some 5 hours I arrived at Saarbrücken main station and was finally home .
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6183 posts, RR: 79 Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7728 times:
interesting report with some nice shots. The catering on Luxair looks quite impressive. I have wanted to try that airline for a long time, but fares have always been very high.
Quoting Luxair747SP (Thread starter): After that the two F/As sat in the last row till about 10min before landing and read magazines, that was a bit surprising, because they didnt do anything for the passengers, which I really disliked.
What else can they do after serving drinks and snacks on such a short flight? You could use the call button if you need anything.
Palmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1051 posts, RR: 20 Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7220 times:
Looks like you had a nice time in the UK, and I remember seeing that all white 732 fly over into LHR - you have a pic of it when you went to LHR to spot. I remember thinking how strange, but nice to see a 732 here. They are incredibly rare these days in the UK.
Luxair onboard service looked very nice, but no matter how many times I see a Luxair aircraft, I come to the same conclusion - I really don't like what they did to their corporate logo on the tail of the aircraft when they updated their colours (again).
The corporate font type and overall style looks nice, but the tail colours just look horrible in my opinion. I am certainly not a fan.
mdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 328 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 6957 times:
Thanks for the trip report. On BA (LGW only service from LUX), the catering option is just snack + drink, so Luxair is better for London-LUX (plus a more convenient airport generally). However from what I recall the BA flights are often cheaper.
FlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1705 posts, RR: 41 Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 10 hours ago) and read 6681 times:
Very interesting to see a TR about Luxair, definitely not very widely covered here and I think this is the first report featuring their newish Dashes!
I've been trying to log LG for a while but haven't found anything affordable that would suit my plans yet. I think I'd like to fly them to SCN as well as that's a city I've been wanting to visit for a very long time! I've been to Luxembourg once, but took the train from Brussels actually. It must be one of the most boring cities in the world to spend a Saturday in - I was bored out of my skull there...!
You have some great shots of London there - very appropriate as I'm heading there again next weekend (and actually the weekend after that as well - ahh my life is sometimes so confusing...)
And finally a great idea to compare the LG Dash with an AB one - I'm due to fly one of these babies again next week...
FLIEGER67 From Georgia, joined Sep 2003, 4387 posts, RR: 57 Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 10 hours ago) and read 6636 times:
really nice pictures and also a good story, well done.
Flying Luxair is for sure something special, a good idea to catch that airline for a trip to London.
And also LCY, which I´ve departed for several times, but not a single inbound till now, another good idea.
Service looks pretty nice for that short hop.
Strange to read or maybe not, with my own experiences about that FA´s on AB/LGW,
in comparison to Luxair, no question for me who win´s!.
Luxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 444 posts, RR: 18 Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6394 times:
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First of all, thank you for your comments!
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1): Whenever I fly in, we seem to approach from the other direction so the only view is of the docks, not the city.
How often is the approach over the city?
Quoting Palmjet (Reply 4): Looks like you had a nice time in the UK, and I remember seeing that all white 732 fly over into LHR - you have a pic of it when you went to LHR to spot. I remember thinking how strange, but nice to see a 732 here. They are incredibly rare these days in the UK.
Do you know, who is operating this B732 ? And for what occation it comes to LHR?
Quoting Palmjet (Reply 4): The corporate font type and overall style looks nice, but the tail colours just look horrible in my opinion. I am certainly not a fan.
I think they new Luxair lovery is one of the most beautiful flying around
Quoting debonair (Reply 5): Ahm, are you sure? Which nationalty was the crew off? I thought LGW was only hiring German speaking crew...
Both of them had a strong eastern accent, but they probably are German though.
Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 8): Could you be so kind to tell me where did you take those photos at LHR?
That was at Myrtle Avenue, not far away from Hatton Cross Underground station.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9): think I'd like to fly them to SCN as well as that's a city I've been wanting to visit
Just pm me when you come and we can arrange something, because I live about 10mins from SCN airport
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 10): Strange to read or maybe not, with my own experiences about that FA´s on AB/LGW,
in comparison to Luxair, no question for me who win´s!.