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Four Planes, Five Trains: HEL-TXL-GWT/SGD-CPH-HEL  
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10837 times:

Introduction

Last spring some of my travel plans needed to be cancelled due to some unforeseen circumstances (and I’m not even talking about the Icelandic Volcano!). One of these tickets was for an Air Berlin flight DUS-HEL, and luckily AB allows pretty much unlimited changes to a ticket (i.e. one can change the routing, dates AND passenger name!), albeit for a change fee of 30 EUR. Since my original ticket was around 80 EUR it was definitely worth it, so I searched for some interesting AB routings and finally found a decent fare to the Island of Sylt, a place which I’ve wanted to visit for a long time. So HEL-TXL-GWT was booked for a random Wednesday in late October, in the end I had to pay a 20 EUR fare difference on top of the 30 EUR change fee.

I definitely wanted to ride the train back to the mainland from Sylt, over the causeway carrying the tracks so initially thought about flying home from HAM, a 2-3 hour train ride away. However considering the proximity of the Danish border to Sylt I figured out it would be interesting to log another new airport, and the closest Danish one would be Sønderborg. Ok, technically Esbjerg (EBJ) is closer to Sylt as the crow flies but not when going via land. Besides EBJ has VERY limited scheduled traffic so it was not an option.

The Danish airline Cimber Air (or Cimber Sterling nowadays) is based at SGD airport, actually they are the only scheduled operator at this airport. They offer a good number of daily flights to CPH, so after checking the bus and train timetables to see if I had enough time to get there on time (yes) I booked the evening flight up to Copenhagen for the cheap fare of 33 EUR.

Finally to get back home to HEL the only option with enough connecting time was the last flight of the day on Blue1, booked for 93 EUR. Too bad it was scheduled to be an Avro instead of the new 717s, but c’est la vie.

Here’s the route: http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/map.gif

The initial plan was to take a train from Westerland/Sylt to Husum or Flensburg on the German mainland, both of which have regular express bus connections to Sønderborg. Well, while looking at the train options I noticed that the DB website would sell me one ticket for the whole journey, involving FIVE separate trains (count ’em!), three DB and two DSB. That sounded too crazy and my kind of thing to pass up so I went for it - especially as the full-fare ticket cost only 19 EUR. Well, DB apparently can’t e-ticket international train journeys, so I had to shell out an additional 3,50 EUR to get the paper ticket mailed to Finland, where it arrived three days later. I thought I was all set, but things aren’t always the way to look like... more on this later.

Wednesday 27.10.2010

Oh dear, yet again I’m taking the way way early AB TXL flight. This morning feels especially hard as I slept very badly the previous night and kept tossing, turning and waking every half an hour or so. Very much asleep I drag myself to the airport bus and arrive at T2 around 6.00 - the bus took an extra five minutes as the construction of the airport train station (finally!) has blocked the normal access ways between T1 and T2 and there are some extra detours involved. I think the next time I’ll just get off at T1 and walk over...

Wednesdays are usually the slowest travel days of the week (and hence usually offer the cheapest fares as well!) and today is no exception - the aren’t too many people around so security is a non-issue. Again just enough time to buy the bottle of water and head to the gate 27 which is completely packed, at least this flight looks busy enough! Boarding starts right as I get to the gate, and I manage to be the second one boarding today’s ride, D-ABFF, a five months old A320 which still has the new plane smell to it. A new one for me, yay.

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HEL - TXL
AB8311
A320 D-ABFF
Seat 29A
6.35 - 7.15

I’m again getting bored by the new boarding music - it’s cheesy. They should change it on a weekly basis or something to gather for frequent fliers like me:

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Boarding is completed in about 15 minutes, a very good load of well over 90%, but again some empty seats back here, including the middle seat next to me on the last row. The captain welcomes everybody onboard, explaining our departure today as “Take off from runway 22R, followed by some small turns and finally a turn towards the south and the Baltic Sea”. Flight time should be around 1h30mins and we will arrive a good 20 minutes early at Tegel.

The early morning Norwegian flight to ARN next to us - I’m taking this flight a couple of times during the rest of the year:

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Push back is bang on time and as the temperature is a somewhat over zero there’s no need for deicing like the last time so we taxi straight to the aforementioned runway and take off ten minutes later. There are some great views of the Capital Region all lit up in the morning darkness with long lines of commuters on the motorways and trunk roads, too bad I can’t make any decent pictures of it. This is the best I came up with - the bright colors belong to a huge mall in Leppävaara, Espoo:

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As usual, service consists of either a cheese or turkey (they referred to it as “ham” but I think it was turkey actually) sandwich and some drinks. I’ve learned my lesson and try not to experiment with the poultry products, so cheese, OJ and coffee for me:

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I doze off, being awakened by another announcement from the flight deck at exactly the half way point of our flight, 45 minutes behind us and another 45 minutes remaining. By the time the sky over the eastern horizon if finally turning red - I guess the day has indeed gotten shorter as three and half weeks ago when I took this same flight it was like this when we took of from HEL.

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By that time we are passing Palanga in Lithuania and heading straight towards Poland, making landfall “just west of Gdansk”, onwards to Neu Brandenburg and finally landing at TXL “towards the west with beautiful city views on the left hand side of the plane” - I got lucky with my seat choice (of course being based on an educated guess) today!

I doze off some more, try to shoot a picture of the pretty Gdansk area all lit up:

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More sleep follows until the seat belt ding wakes me up from my slumber at 1h15mins into the flight. The weather is very clear over Berlin, so there are great views of the whole city lit up in the darkness around us, just as the captain promised. Not so good when viewed through my camera, though.

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Landing is on runway 26R after a flight time of 1h30mins. The lights of the planes following us, the first of which turned out to be a BT 733:

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This time we end up in the C terminal annex, that’s good as the flight to Sylt will most probably leave from there as well. This also means deboarding from both exits, so I’m outside and in the bus in no time at all.

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Bye:

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Berlin Tegel Airport

The 100 meter ride to the entrance door amuses most of my fellow travelers, well it is quite silly! Inside I check the FIDS and after learning that the next flight is indeed departing from this shack of a terminal I head up the stairs marked transfer, down the corridor and down another set of stairs to the Schengen departure area. Quite a few other pax on this flight are connecting as well.

The departure area is still deserted, the main rush hour doesn’t start for another half an hour or so so I grab a seat at a table and finish the morning paper together with some people watching. Soon enough the place gets very packed with lots and lots of people so I’m lucky that I snatched that seat well in advance.

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Boarding to a bus is called around 25 minutes before departure. Again a bit pointless really as we wait 10 minutes in the bus for everybody to show up and I can see our plane less than 50 meters away - at least that’s what I assume as I see no other AB/LGW Dashes around. You can actually see the plane just behind the bus in this shot:

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Finally all the pax have showed up and indeed we drive to the plane I assumed it would be, D-ABQB, another new plane for me.

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Operated by LGW:

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TXL - GWT
AB6900 Operated by LGW Luftfartgesellschaft Walter
Dash 8 Q 400 D-ABQB
Seat 3F
9.10 - 10.13

Inside I find a man already sitting in my seat, he claims to have 3A as well even after I show my OLCI boarding pass to him. When he finds his boarding pass it turns out that he actually has 3F. He offers to move, but as I don’t really have any preferences over the side of the plane I offer to take his seat instead. In the end it works out just fine, as both our aisle seats stay empty. Load factor is somewhere around 65%. No complaints about the leg room or pitch:

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Notice the Swiss-registered AB Airbus behind us:

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Flight time is announced as 1 hour. Our push back is five minutes late, I think that Swiss AB was pushing back at the same time and we had to wait until it went on its way. Two distant visitors here:

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Bulgaria Air operating for ???:

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Polizei:

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Taxi to runway 26L takes quite a while as well, and we finally take off at 9.24. Air France landing on the parallel runway:

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Quite impressive climb rate on this turboprop:

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I love these engine shots:

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Some pretty views of the autumn colors during our initial descent:

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Soon after leaving Brandenburg behind it gets overcast - as we never get that high the view stays very boring for most of the time:

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Service is again very standard for AB domestic morning flights - drinks and a croissant. The croissant is quite dry, so it is probably a couple of days old.

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Descent starts right at 10.00, 36 minutes into the flight with the seat belt switched on right after. The weather doesn’t look too good as the grey clouds are very thick, the first sights of the ground come only a couple of seconds before touchdown:

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Landing is on runway 32, 49 minutes after take off. We come in very fast, this is one of the fastest landings I remember for a long while which is of course followed by some very heavy breaking action which sends small objects in the cabin hurling forward and makes me glad I have my seat belt on.

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We actually have a follow me car in front of us guiding us the 200 meters or so to the tiny and cute terminal - I guess they are so bored here that they take every opportunity to do something.

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Once I step off the plane the reason for the fast landing becomes apparent, it is extremely windy. Luckily it is not raining at the moment, even though there are puddles everywhere and the skies are very gray. The Air Berlin chocolate heart is handed out upon disembarking.

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Sylt

I take a look inside the departures area of the tiny airport - people are just queuing for check in for the return flight to TXL:

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There are plenty of taxis around, but since it is not raining at the moment, my train is in two hours and it is only around 2 kilometers to the main town on the island, Westerland (where my train will depart from) I decide to walk there. There aren’t too many airports where you can do this, although I’ve done it in quite a few places...

The terminal:

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Entrance to the airport grounds, no doubt who’s the biggest player here:

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Judging from this tree, these kind of winds are not too uncommon here:



Public transportation for bikes - with the compact distances and flatness of this island cycling is quite a popular way for getting around the island:

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The town hall:

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The weather stays bad, heavy winds and the occasional shower so not much sightseeing for me, instead I sit in a cafe with a large capucchino to warm me up before heading to the train station and grabbing some lunch at its restaurant before boarding my train, a “Nord-Ostsee-Bahn” going to Hamburg Altona.

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An interesting train journey

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The train ends up departing ten or so minutes late, it looks like they have to wait for an arriving car shuttle train. What’s that? Well, the causeway connecting Sylt to the mainland only carries a railroad and no traditional road. Thus the only way to get there with a car is either to take a ferry or these special trains which contain only railcars designed for transporting cars - there are plenty of these around the station yard as during the summer season Sylt is very popular and these shuttle trains are both very frequent and very long.

Over the causeway, notice the low tide:

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The ride to Husum takes a bit over an hour, first I’m worrying about my connection as it is less than ten minutes and we stop frequently to allow other trains to pass or just slow down for long stretches of time. Then I get some additional worries after the conductor points out that my ticket is not really valid for this journey as it reads “Schleswig-Sonderborg”. Well, I’d somehow assumed that it meant the whole state of Schleswig(-Holstein) instead of just the town of Schleswig. Well, after I show him the receipt print out from the bahn.de website detailing my full route today and the fare and argue that this is what the website sold me he kind of just shrugs and let’s it slip. Fine, let’s see how the subsequent conductors will treat me.

I check the map in my guidebook and make plans B and C: If I miss the train I’ll try to catch the bus in Husum or in a worst case scenario take the train to Flensburg and do it there. Luckily I printed out the timetable beforehand as there was a strike hosted by the rail worker’s union the previous day and I was a bit afraid that something bad might happen.

Anyway I just make the connection at Husum to another NOB train. No conductor shows up here, so half an hour later I step off at the Schleswig station which is much smaller and rural (it smells like cow dung all around us) than I expected. Come to think of it the whole train journey has been very rural, with just fields, fields and the occasional farm everywhere - having never been to this part of Germany before I expected something different.

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20 minutes later the last German train of the day shows up, this time a genuine DB Interregio running all the way to Padborg, the southernmost point in the Danish rail network:

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The conductor doesn’t bother with me here either. It’s half an hour or so to Flensburg but the train stands there for another half an hour, looks like they clean it and service it for the return journey to Hamburg here.

On the way to Padborg I try to spot the Danish border along the fields and huge border markets offering everything from used cars to food, cigarettes and alcohol - the Danes living nearby like to shop in Germany as it is so much cheaper than in Denmark! I fail to spot the border, in a very anticlimactic manner I just suddenly realize that there are Danish flags on the flagpoles and a couple of minutes later we stop at the tiny station at Padborg.

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This station is a dump, the waiting room is small, dirty and smells bad - definitely not “hygge” as one has come to expect from the Danes! The next train is 10 minutes late, but that’s fine as I have quite enough time.

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This time there’s even a conductor who’s interested in me, but no problems with the ticket, he just confirms that I’m indeed going to Sønderborg. Ten minutes later I step off at the next station, Tinglev, which is where the branch line to my ultimate train destination today branches off. I have 40 minutes here, so I go to the city to see if there’s anything to see - but as it is raining and cold there’s not much going on, all the people seem to be hiding. I just buy a couple of beers at a nearby supermarket and retire back to the station to wait for the last train.

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Finally the ugly, leech-like Intercity arrives:

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Half an hour later I step off at Sønderborg, having had my fair share of train travel for the day. Still I’m glad it all worked out, a delay could indeed have thrown a major spanner in the works!

Sønderborg Airport

It’s raining here as well, so I decide to skip any sightseeing despite having some extra time and just hop on a waiting taxi for the short ride to the airport, chitchatting with the driver about all things Danish along the way.

I first take a look outside, there’s an interesting ATR on Hansung Airlines colors parked on the apron, carrying the very temporary looking registration of SE-MCA:

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Apparently this plane has been operating for Golden Air in Sweden recently. Furthermore she is an ex-Finnair and Aero bird, and used to carry the registration OH/ES-KRH (thanks Okko!) which means that I’ve logged three flights with her back in the days. Feels like meeting an old friend! I guess it is here for maintenance, as QI operate quite a sizable fleet of the type.

Picnic tables - too bad the weather isn’t very co-operative:

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The airport is utterly boring - the inside is cramped, the sole cafeteria closed for renovations and I’m unable to get the advertised free Wifi to work. At least they have a pair of free-for-all computers as well so I while away the time with those - they even provide a charger for an Ipod which I of course take full advantage of! Like the taxi driver put it: “They try so hard to attract all possible passengers!”.

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Finally half an hour before departure they open the security checkpoint and with nothing better to do I head to the tiny departure lounge. They scan your boarding pass already at the security check point - well it’s not like there would be two flights departing at the same time! The incoming plane arrives from CPH right on time at 18.45 and stops in the apron in front of us. It is the expected ATR 42 500-series with the registration OY-CIK, another new plane for my log.

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SGD - CPH
QI110
ATR 42-500 OY-CIK
Seat 8A
19.01 - 19.37

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Boarding is interesting - a ramp agent approaches the door from outside and unlocks it and waves everybody to board - barely ten minutes after arrival, good job! Inside the cabin looks to have been recently refurbished, despite this plane being almost 15 years old - the cabin controls look just as new as on the couple of years old FC examples.

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The seats are old fashioned, thick cloth seats, very comfortable, featuring old fashioned things like ashtrays (no bubble gum this time!):

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Load factor is good, 80% or so - there seem to be some other Finns onboard as well, very clearly traveling for business. The flight time is announced as “30 minutes” (in English) or “half an hour” (in Danish). Departure is four minutes ahead of schedule, we backtrack down the runway (no taxiways) and turn around for a departure from runway 14 right at our scheduled departure time.

The clouds are hanging very low so there are no views whatsoever. There’s also no service whatsoever - interesting as I flew CPH-BLL a year ago with Cimber and back then we got coffee or tea and a small cookie - the distance is only 15 miles more on that route.

The seat belt sign is switched on again 20 minutes into the flight. The clouds are low at CPH as well, as the first lights are visible already when we are crossing the highway and railroad during our short finals on 22L. Landing is quite rough and shaky, it feels like there’s a significant side wind component here - total flight time 32 minutes.

A couple of minutes we stop in front of the far A gates, usually used for domestic flights:

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Kastrup Airport

These A gates are a bit of a hike from the main terminal area. On the way I pass this:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Kastrup_3.jpg

Looks like I could have made the earlier SK flight which I was contemplating on booking - but the connecting time of 30 mins gave me cold feet and I couldn’t risk it. It sure would have been nice to be back home by bedtime and have another ride on a Mad Dog - but at least I’m taking the very same flight in four days so that’s fine.

My plan was to make a beeline for the lounge, but as I’m nearing the main area a sweet smell of a fresh hot dog starts wafting down the pier. By the time a young couple walks past me on the opposite direction eagerly tucking into their precious pork products I’m all sold and just have to get myself one - one can’t leave Denmark without getting a genuine Pølse, can one?

At almost 10 EUR this is a horribly expensive, though:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Kastrup_4.jpg

Now how did that happen:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Kastrup_5.jpg

Yes, there’s actually an explanation for that - right next to the table across a fence there’s the bus gate A2 which is boarding a MA flight to BUD. After the first bus has already departed two Hungarian girls and a young lad arrive running, carrying with them fresh, full pints of Carlsberg. After the gate agents tell them that they can’t take the (plastic) pints with them the lad does the manly thing and downs his at one go. The girls, however, can’t so they take large gulps, spot me with my almost empty beer and come to me with the infinitely tempting offer of free beer. Who am I to resist, even though this might become the end of me?

Well, luckily it turned out they missed the bus and the gate agent dispatched for a new one, so they have to wait in the holding pen for a while. They turn their heads toward me, I wave and yell “I haven’t touched your beers, you can have them back!” - this is very much appreciated and I get thanked - I tell them “No, I need to thank you, you know I need to work tomorrow!” which seems to be very funny to them. Phew, that was close!

After getting my share of gluttony I head to the lounge, accessible with my Diners Club card. During my heydays with SAS I spent countless hours at this lounge - and it hasn’t really changed that much. The problem with this lounge is that it is accessible with a variety of credit cards in addition to Priority Pass etc. and has a tendency to get crowded, I remember several occasions on Saturday mornings when it was standing room only, despite all the travelers being of the leisure type. I notice that AY has switched to this lounge (together with SU), how low can they go?

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Kastrup_7.jpg

Still, at an expensive airport in an expensive country anywhere with free beer, wifi and some snacks is fine with me.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Kastrup_8.jpg

Bad capucchino and some cognac:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Kastrup_6.jpg

I only realized after grabbing that magazine that it was in Danish, though!

To my shock I learn that the lounge closes already at 21.00 - that’s quite bad. I hang around until they ask me to leave, then walk around for a while until a gate is announced for my flight - B16 at the end of the B pier. I head there to find out that the plane has just arrived and is being unloaded - out of the window I see that it is OH-SAK “Näsijärvi”. My fifth flight with her, although after a long hiatus as the last time was way back in 2004.

Boarding is called around 15 minutes before departure. I am the second to board, the female first officer is standing in the front galley and is very surprised to see pax coming towards her so she quickly jumps into the cockpit and slams the door shut.

CPH - HEL
KF646
ARJ-85 <

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10838 times:

Whoa, it almost fit in:

CPH - HEL
KF646
ARJ-85 OH-SAK “Näsijärvi”
Seat 4A
22.40 - 01.05

Boarding is surprisingly fast, I guess everybody wants to get to sleep as soon as possible. Economy load is around 80%, a free middle seat next to me though. Two passengers in the three rows of “Premium” (KF’s new term for their... well, premium class) - looks like if somebody wants to enjoy the cheap Optiontown upgrades there this is the flight to take, although I’m not sure how much value there is to a snack and a couple of free drinks at an hour most people prefer to be sleeping...

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Last_1.jpg

Push back is again bang on time and five minutes later we take off from runway 22R.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Last_2.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Last_3.jpg

This flight goes exactly like I planned it: right after takeoff I close my eyes and the next time I come to senses is a couple of minutes before touchdown at HEL runway 15 around 20 minutes early. This is the way these midnight flights are supposed to be enjoyed  .

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Sylt_Sonderborg_10_2010/Last_4.jpg

Finavia is doing it again - I spot AY planes parked deep into T1, at the jetways down to 15 or so, so we end up at 22 which of course is well into T2 instead. Well, fine with me as I don’t have any checked luggage and can use the T2 exit, but if I had to make the long trek back to T1 to pick up my bag in the middle of the night I’d be less amused. The next bus is 20 minutes away so I decide to trade money for additional sleep and take a taxi home instead, which does the job in less than 10 minutes,

Conclusions

A very long and tiring day through two countries. The weather was rather bad almost everywhere apart from Berlin where the morning was very beautiful if bitterly cold so that sort of ate away part of the fun, but then again I should know the late October weather better!

That train journey was interesting but thinking back to it I’m not sure if I’d try to try it again, there was quite a bit of stress factor in the end, not least thanks to the weird ticket DB sold me!

Sylt was an interesting destination, but yes, it really is a summer destination. Not very enjoyable at this time of the year unless one gets extremely lucky. Sønderborg looked a very pretty city as well, but the weather being similar there enjoying it through the taxi windows was enough for me.

As for airlines, everything was as I expected it to be. Nice new planes with AB, very consistent and good service and everything worked fine. The Cimber flight was a perfectly enjoyable short hop on the ATR, I have a soft spot in my heart for this plane type so I liked it a lot. Finally I spent more time sleeping than awake with Blue1 which is exactly as I wanted it to be.


The next trip is tomorrow - a quick trip to the UK (where else?) for a final short flight on a BA 757 on its last day of scheduled operations with the type and a bit of a.net comradeship on the side with HEL-MAN-LHR-HEL as the itinerary.

Happy contrails!


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10676 times:

Hey, P.,

great stuff, three new registrations, not bad.
You protect me from working with my next storiy, so it will be online tomorrow and not today, as earlier expected.
Really nice pictures, also when the weather is not that good these days.
Good that you make you´re train connections, one day earlier, it was pretty difficult.
Sad that it is not possible for me to join the BA 757 final flight.
You know, there is something for me to do also during the weekend.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10442 times:

Another long day for you and another interesting TR for us. I love the pictures of these towns you pass through. Shame the weather didn't cooperate, but hey, its getting to that time of year.

I hate that feeling when things run close to the wire and panic sets in about connections.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Finally the ugly, leech-like Intercity arrives:

That sure is an ugly train.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
with HEL-MAN-LHR-HEL as the itinerary.

Something of a coincidence as i just booked a MAN-HEL-LHR-MAN for the 1st and 2nd Dec...


Have a good flight on the 752. They will be missed.


User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10419 times:

Another interesting day trip, thank you for the report!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
There’s also no service whatsoever - interesting as I flew CPH-BLL a year ago with Cimber and back then we got coffee or tea and a small cookie - the distance is only 15 miles more on that route.

I flew CPH-AAR on Cimber Sterling ATR42 in april this year and we did not get anything on that short flight. My friends, also going to Aarhus, flew MUC-BLL on QI CRJ200 and there was no service on that flight either. I had a fun time with QI despite the flight was very short 

[Edited 2010-10-28 15:45:06]


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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6945 posts, RR: 77
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 10008 times:

Hi FlyingFinn,

nice report about an interesting journey. Aren't you getting bored with all these AB flights?  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The 100 meter ride to the entrance door amuses most of my fellow travelers, well it is quite silly!

That's pure luxury. If you fly Tiger Australia you may have to walk all across the apron which is particularly enjoyable in heavy rain...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I first take a look outside, there’s an interesting ATR on Hansung Airlines colors parked on the apron, carrying the very temporary looking registration of SE-MCA:

Very interesting visitor indeed. Btw - the former Hansung Airlines is now called T'way Airlines and only operates 738s.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
At almost 10 EUR this is a horribly expensive, though:

Rip-off!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1789 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9937 times:

Hello FF,

Interesting report featuring 2 - for me - unknown small airports. Too bad the weather wasn't coöperative, well it is starting to get wintery so no surprise maybe?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
a five months old A320 which still has the new plane smell to it

Like a fresh cup of coffee, a good way to start the day!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
There aren’t too many airports where you can do this

ANR for sure (my hometown airport).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The airport is utterly boring

It sure looks like it from the outside.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
At almost 10 EUR this is a horribly expensive

€ 10 for 1 beer, can't imagine myself buying for that price. You can get 2 Ryanair (or more) flights for this in stead  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The next trip is tomorrow

Looking forward to that one, for sure.

Regards,
Nils



In thrust we trust.
User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6676 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9791 times:

Hi !

Very nice report again with nice pictures, FlyingFinn! It's been a while since your last report; perhaps you have been busy travelling ?

Sylt looks nice but the weather seem awful....Sonderborg looks nice too but the airport does not look so great even compared to OSK, RNB or KLR.

See, nice that your Swedish knowledge can make you undterstand some Danish!  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
one can’t leave Denmark without getting a genuine Pølse, can one?

I agree with that; a bit expensive with the beer but a genuine Polse is irresistable!

I'm curious about the names of the Blue 1 aircraft; Are they named after rivvers in Finland ? What doe jarvi mean ?

Looking forward to your first trip report of a KF 717!

The777Man



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 720 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9681 times:

Hej FlyingFinn,

another great report, looks you like you had an interesting day, just shame for the weather, but that is to be expected that time of year. Three airlines, four different plane types, not bad.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The 100 meter ride to the entrance door amuses most of my fellow travelers, well it is quite silly!

The famous bus rides in Tegel. That one amused me as well on my trip to TXL earlier this year. I doubt that the journey is even 100m long  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I love these engine shots:

That's what I like on the Dash8 as well, some nice picture opportunities. When you sit more in the back you can also get great shots with the landing gear.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, after I show him the receipt print out from the bahn.de website detailing my full route today and the fare and argue that this is what the website sold me he kind of just shrugs and let’s it slip.

This is typical "Deutsche Bahn". They have so many different fares and special offers and rules that sometimes even the conductors don't know about it. And going international makes evertything even more complicated. Luckily for you everything worked out in the end.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I first take a look outside, there’s an interesting ATR on Hansung Airlines colors parked on the apron

Indeed, that is something you don't see everyday in Europe.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

This flight goes exactly like I planned it: right after takeoff I close my eyes and the next time I come to senses is a couple of minutes before touchdown at HEL runway 15 around 20 minutes early.

You paid money for a flight and then you just sleep through it, what a shame  . Ok, the late hour and the long day may excuse it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
That train journey was interesting but thinking back to it I’m not sure if I’d try to try it again, there was quite a bit of stress factor in the end, not least thanks to the weird ticket DB sold me!

You are right. Riding the train is ok, but as soon as you have to take a connection somewhere it can get quite stressful. That's why I try to avoid train journeys like this if possible.

So, thanks again for sharing your trip with us and have a nice flight on this BA 757.

CaptainRed


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9531 times:

Hi all, good to see so many comments already!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
great stuff, three new registrations, not bad.

Yeah, luckily the AB fleet is very large (and still growing), so there are still good chances for catching something new.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
You protect me from working with my next storiy, so it will be online tomorrow and not today, as earlier expected.

Bummer, looks like I need to read it somewhere on the road then!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
You know, there is something for me to do also during the weekend.

Yes, hope you managed to rebook your way around those flight changes.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 3):
Have a good flight on the 752. They will be missed.

Oh yes, I will. Haven't flown too much on those and they indeed are getting rare in Europe.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
Aren't you getting bored with all these AB flights?

Well, a bit. At least the boarding music  . But then again, affordable ways of reaching Central Europe from Finland aren't very commonplace. Plus I do like AB a lot, it's a very good carrier.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
Very interesting visitor indeed. Btw - the former Hansung Airlines is now called T'way Airlines and only operates 738s.

Yes, I googled for it  .

Quoting sultanils (Reply 6):
€ 10 for 1 beer, can't imagine myself buying for that price. You can get 2 Ryanair (or more) flights for this in stead

Heh, at least I got the hot dog for that price as well. But that's Denmark for you, it's expensive everywhere, even without the airport inflation thrown in. No wonder about the frisk business those huge markets on the German - Danish border do!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
It's been a while since your last report; perhaps you have been busy travelling ?

No, not really. Had a three and half week hiatus from flying (ok, I did fly one boring domestic hop not worth reporting but it just happened to be my 900th flight, though!) - sometimes it is healthy to get a bit of a distance and do other things as well. But fear not, there are 9 trips booked until the end of the year - November will be a busy month for me! And of course the new year will bring lots of new adventures, including the new DY base at HEL etc.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
I'm curious about the names of the Blue 1 aircraft; Are they named after rivvers in Finland ? What doe jarvi mean ?

"Järvi" means "Lake", thus all the planes are named after large Finnish lakes. For example that particular plane, "Näsijärvi" is the other one of the two large lakes bordering the narrow isthmus where the city of Tampere is located.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
Looking forward to your first trip report of a KF 717!

Oh yes, that trip is a bit over week away, tomorrow I'm flying a boring BA A320 back from LHR. Here's hoping that no equipment change happens - there have been far too many of those with KF recently. On the other hand I wouldn't mind an Air Finland 757 or a DAT MD-87 - both examples have been subbing for KF this autumn.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
Hej FlyingFinn,

Sacrilege! Hej is Swedish! If you want to be Finnish, say "hei" instead!  
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
You paid money for a flight and then you just sleep through it, what a shame . Ok, the late hour and the long day may excuse it.

Well, I'm not as young as I used to be so I just can't stay up all night any more and be fresh in the office early next morning. So as a compromise I try to sleep through these late night homeward bound flights - very often nothing too exciting happens and I'm pretty much covered all the routes and carriers doing these to HEL before.


User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 720 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9476 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
Sacrilege! Hej is Swedish! If you want to be Finnish, say "hei" instead!

Mea culpa. Please accept my apologies for this, I promise it won't happen again  


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1466 posts, RR: 33
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9320 times:

Hi FF,

What a coincidence. I was in TXL the very same morning as you, landing from ZRH 40minutes after you took off for Sylt! How the paths of anetters cross around Europe!

Talking of coincidences....

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Notice the Swiss-registered AB Airbus behind us:

...this was the plane I came back on last night.

Nice to see another plane/train combo from you, you really were lucky everything worked out with so many trains to catch! Pity the weather was so bad in Sylt, it always affects how you see a place.

Never having rebooked a ticket on AB it was interesting to read about their policy, seems much like ezy. If only it was that easy with other airlines.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the Danes living nearby like to shop in Germany as it is so much cheaper than in Denmark!

One of my hobbies too for the same reason!

Incidentally, Cimber are starting ZRH-CPH, it'll be interesting to see just how they compete with SK & LX

Happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9293 times:

Hola FlyingFinn76!

What an interesting report of yours.

I always find the combination of planes and trains to be interesting although yours was a bit of an adventure with so many issues involved with German trains.

I had a look at the books to learn about the island of Sylt you visited. Interesting place and the Hindenburgdamm sure adds a nice touch to the train trip.

Keep them coming.

Roger



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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2500 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9257 times:

Hi P.,

What an exciting combo day trip of planes and trains. Well done! I just love your sunset pictures out of HEL. They are beautiful!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Who am I to resist, even though this might become the end of me?

You deserved the pints. Just look how the guy and the girls got charmed by you.  

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 616 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 9224 times:

Hello Mr FF!

Cheers for sharing your latest report. Nice to cover a bit by train as it adds a change from the normal. Pretty bad you had a stressful journey on the trains, sounded pretty confusing to me.

Nice pics to go too.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
spot me with my almost empty beer and come to me with the infinitely tempting offer of free beer. Who am I to resist, even though this might become the end of me?

How could anyone say no?!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
The next trip is tomorrow - a quick trip to the UK (where else?) for a final short flight on a BA 757 on its last day of scheduled operations with the type and a bit of a.net comradeship on the side with HEL-MAN-LHR-HEL as the itinerary.

Looking forward to reading that report! Might shoot you arriving into LHR tomorrow!

Again, cheers for sharing.

Matt


User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 9150 times:

Hi FlyingFinn,

Interesting report and nice pictures of your day-trip. A pity that weather was so bad.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Entrance to the airport grounds, no doubt who’s the biggest player here

Yes, AB has really grown at GWT, especially when they took over all flights from TUIfly there a year ago. LH used to be quite present there as well, but nowadays they have discontinued all flights except MUC.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Furthermore she is an ex-Finnair and Aero bird, and used to carry the registration OH/ES-KRH (thanks Okko!) which means that I’ve logged three flights with her back in the days. Feels like meeting an old friend!

Nice - I also like meeting well-known planes.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
problem with this lounge is that it is accessible with a variety of credit cards in addition to Priority Pass etc. and has a tendency to get crowded, I remember several occasions on Saturday mornings when it was standing room only

Not the best impression.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Sylt was an interesting destination, but yes, it really is a summer destination.

Indeed it is, and even during summer you can get all kinds of weather there. I guess in the end it is a destination for the weather-proof people.

Regards
Christoph


User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6676 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 10 hours ago) and read 8937 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
"Järvi" means "Lake", thus all the planes are named after large Finnish lakes. For example that particular plane, "Näsijärvi" is the other one of the two large lakes bordering the narrow isthmus where the city of Tampere is located.

And "jokki" is river ?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 9):
Sacrilege! Hej is Swedish! If you want to be Finnish, say "hei" instead!

I thouht Hej=Hyvaa ? Thats about the extent of my Finnish knowledge.......

Looking forward to your upcomng reports!

The777Man



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 8811 times:

Hi all and good to see more comments - always appreciated. Greetings from London, am sitting in a pub in Knightsbridge right now, about to head back to Heathrow...

Quoting infodesk (Reply 11):
What a coincidence. I was in TXL the very same morning as you, landing from ZRH 40minutes after you took off for Sylt! How the paths of anetters cross around Europe!
Quoting infodesk (Reply 11):
...this was the plane I came back on last night.

Oh, that indeed is a coincidence! You should've let me know, I could have asked the captain to hold for a bit in order to give you a wave!   I guess I really need to fly through ZRH next year!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 11):
Incidentally, Cimber are starting ZRH-CPH, it'll be interesting to see just how they compete with SK & LX

Are they doing that on the CRJ? What's interesting about QI is that they probably have the largest fleet of CRJ-200s in active service in Europe right now. So if one wants to fly these babies that's the way to go. Apart from that it is on par with SK - BOB service nowadays and a friendly Danish crew. They recently started CPH-AMS as well, interestingly with ATRs. That flight is codeshared with SK, do you know if ZRH is?

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 12):
I always find the combination of planes and trains to be interesting although yours was a bit of an adventure with so many issues involved with German trains.
Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 14):
Pretty bad you had a stressful journey on the trains, sounded pretty confusing to me.

Yeah. Part of the awkwardness comes from my rusty German - I am able to understand what the conductors and other people say but trying to say something coherent back is very hard for me, and in Germany you can't count on all the people understanding English like in the Nordics for example! Now if that would been a bunch of British trains then no problems, I can easily sweet talk any conductor to bend over backwards to allow me to travel  .

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 14):
Looking forward to reading that report! Might shoot you arriving into LHR tomorrow!

So did you? Landed at 11.02 Zulu time on 27R, so if you were around Hatton Cross or so you probably caught a perfect picture. The weather was great as you know, and the retro livery looks so beautiful!

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 15):
I guess in the end it is a destination for the weather-proof people.

So that explains all The North Face stores there!  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
And "jokki" is river ?

"Joki" with one k, yes.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
I thouht Hej=Hyvaa ? Thats about the extent of my Finnish knowledge.......

"Hyvä" means good, so "Hyvää päivää" is "Good day", "päivä" = "day", "Hyvää lentoa" = "Have a nice flight", literally "Good flight", "lento" = "a flight" etc.


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1466 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 8747 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 17):
Are they doing that on the CRJ? That flight is codeshared with SK, do you know if ZRH is?

No, it's a 737 and there doesn't appear to be a codeshare with SK, which I guess is not good for you  



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User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1384 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 1 hour ago) and read 8704 times:

Great report! The Deutsche Bahn-website is sometimes a little tricky. It's great because you can tell that you want to leave from a very specific adress to another specific adress, and it will put you even footwalks and bus lines on the itinerary they'll print on the online ticket, but it could be that your actual ticket (wich is actually printed in a small greyish box on the lower left part of the online ticket) is only valid for a part of the trip (i.e. not all busses etc).

Nevertheless it's strange that didn't incorporated the NOB-trains in that ticket...


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8596 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8145 times:
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Nice report P, thoiugh I'll leave trains to you, I'll stick to flying  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
AB allows pretty much unlimited changes to a ticket (i.e. one can change the routing, dates AND passenger name!), albeit for a change fee of 30 EUR

- That's a pretty reasonable charge IMO.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
today’s ride, D-ABFF, a five months old A320 which still has the new plane smell to it. A new one for me, yay.

- Welcome start to the day for sure.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The croissant is quite dry, so it is probably a couple of days old.

- Hmm, nice, not!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, there’s actually an explanation for that - right next to the table across a fence there’s the bus gate A2 which is boarding a MA flight to BUD. After the first bus has already departed two Hungarian girls and a young lad arrive running, carrying with them fresh, full pints of Carlsberg. After the gate agents tell them that they can’t take the (plastic) pints with them the lad does the manly thing and downs his at one go. The girls, however, can’t so they take large gulps, spot me with my almost empty beer and come to me with the infinitely tempting offer of free beer. Who am I to resist, even though this might become the end of me?

Well, luckily it turned out they missed the bus and the gate agent dispatched for a new one, so they have to wait in the holding pen for a while. They turn their heads toward me, I wave and yell “I haven’t touched your beers, you can have them back!” - this is very much appreciated and I get thanked - I tell them “No, I need to thank you, you know I need to work tomorrow!” which seems to be very funny to them. Phew, that was close!

- Great story, I feel ashamed for assuming you bought all those beers  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Sylt was an interesting destination

- Indeed, thanks for visiting, I've never heard of it before, like you suggest, more a summer destination!

So all in all a pretty decent day, if tiring - 3 new frames to the list.

Good stuff!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7961 times:

Hi P.
very good report also here. Good to read your railroad experience, something I would like to do also some day. Nice to fly the AT4 also. Missing here, so far. But QI introduced recently on the CPH-AMS runs, operating all their type (AT4/AT7/73G), so there might be an opportunity soon. Interesting to see that Chinese ATR on the apron there, quite a surprise, I can imagine.

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7786 times:

Hi all,

Quoting reifel (Reply 19):
The Deutsche Bahn-website is sometimes a little tricky. It's great because you can tell that you want to leave from a very specific adress to another specific adress, and it will put you even footwalks and bus lines on the itinerary they'll print on the online ticket, but it could be that your actual ticket (wich is actually printed in a small greyish box on the lower left part of the online ticket) is only valid for a part of the trip (i.e. not all busses etc).

Oh, I never knew that! Thanks for the explanation, I guess it makes (vague) sense. I'll try to be more careful the next time!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 20):
- Great story, I feel ashamed for assuming you bought all those beers  

Oh well, I'm hardcore but not THAT hardcore, thankyouverymuh.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
Nice to fly the AT4 also. Missing here, so far. But QI introduced recently on the CPH-AMS runs, operating all their type (AT4/AT7/73G), so there might be an opportunity soon.

I've flown a lot on ATRs so nothing new under the sun for me. Interesting, I thought that route was only operated with the ATRs but they seem to be at it with guns blazing. At least some of the flights are actually codeshared with SK...

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
Interesting to see that Chinese ATR on the apron there, quite a surprise, I can imagine.

Korean, no tChinese. But yes, was definitely a surprise.


User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3189 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6998 times:

Thanks for the very interesting trip report, planning a trip in June around Europe and hoping to include both AirBerlin and Cimber Air, and you included them perfectly, but I want the Cimber Air CRJ200 and its good to know they got lots of them.

Still trying to figure out which routes Cimber Air codeshare with SK and I still can't seem to buy a connecting flight without having to purchase it through Expedia.

Thanks for the information on the train system, could be useful when trying to connect different airports.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Here’s the route:

Thanks, perfect for me to work out where these strange airports are.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, DB apparently can’t e-ticket international train journeys, so I had to shell out an additional 3,50 EUR to get the paper ticket mailed to Finland, where it arrived three days later.

Thanks good point on the DB website, will need to keep this in mind.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
No complaints about the leg room or pitch:

Its a Dash 8-400 even Qantas don't try and add more seats.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
We actually have a follow me car in front of us guiding us the 200 meters or so to the tiny and cute terminal - I guess they are so bored here that they take every opportunity to do something.

Maybe the weather is always bad and can get foggy, so the follow me car has lots of practice, even when the weather is good.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I just buy a couple of beers at a nearby supermarket and retire back to the station to wait for the last train.

So you really only need one beer with the hot dog as you already got some beers from the supermarket.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Looks like I could have made the earlier SK flight which I was contemplating on booking - but the connecting time of 30 mins gave me cold feet and I couldn’t risk it.

Maybe it is scheduled that way for connecting passengers.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Still, at an expensive airport in an expensive country anywhere with free beer, wifi and some snacks is fine with me.

Might have to look into Priority Pass, I think I could easily consume a year worth of free wifi and beer

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The next bus is 20 minutes away so I decide to trade money for additional sleep and take a taxi home instead, which does the job in less than 10 minutes,

Been there done that and got the credit card bill as proof.  

Thanks for some great pictures of the train journey.



Why fly non stop when you can connect
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6925 times:

Hi Brisbane, thanks for the comments on this older report and hope your house isn't under water at the moment!  
Quoting BNE (Reply 23):
but I want the Cimber Air CRJ200 and its good to know they got lots of them.

Actually I have two flights coming up on those birds in late February, so just stay tuned and I'll provide some more details in my report. It's been quite a few years since I was in one of those, they are quite cramped actually, but of course quite rare nowadays, especially in Europe.

Quoting BNE (Reply 23):
Still trying to figure out which routes Cimber Air codeshare with SK and I still can't seem to buy a connecting flight without having to purchase it through Expedia.

Those arrangements are mighty confusing, I agree. I was actually able to book my upcoming connection on the Cimber website just fine, it's OSL-BLL-CPH BTW. I guess they have certain predetermined connections which they allow.

Quoting BNE (Reply 23):
Maybe it is scheduled that way for connecting passengers.

Yeah, the official MCT at CPH is still 30 mins I think, but it's quite risky. If everything's on time and you get gates nearby it works fine, but add a little delay or gates more distant apart and you are risking it. It must be well over a kilometer to walk from the domestic terminal and the nearby (international) A gates to the other end, the D gates and nowadays there's also the low cost annex which is still further! 45 minutes is usually okay, but an hour provides more comfort.

Quoting BNE (Reply 23):
Might have to look into Priority Pass, I think I could easily consume a year worth of free wifi and beer

PP is okay, but it costs quite a lot of money. If you can get a Diner's Club card it usually is much more cost effective. Of course PP has around a hundred times as many lounges, but if your usual airports have a DC-accessible lounge it might be worth it. For me, it is already worth it because of the lounges at ARN, CPH and LHR T3! Well, then again I'm still on my first year which was free...  


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 25, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6448 times:

Nice train/plane report. Looks like you had a nice trip, the 'leech'-like Intercity trains have an identical nose to the Belgian Intercity trains.


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